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PvP,PK and Thieving /
« on: January 06, 2002, 02:15:33 pm »
Firestorm
PS Official Member
posted 26-12-2001 18:01 GMT
In an effort to inspire worthwhile descussion between fans I introduce to you a very contriversial topic. How do you feel about
pking in general? I will monitor the forum over time and take notes on the public opinion on the issue. Discuss !!!!!
....
Buechler
Guest
posted 26-12-2001 19:56 GMT
Heres my take on pking in general:
-It should be allowed in Planeshift but of course there will be very vigilant miltias in cities.
-pking should also be allowed outside of town ( not just in designated areas) but there should be level limits. For excample If I
had a lvl 4 dwarf he could only attack 4 lvls below and above him.
- thirdly I think pkers should be able to loot 1 item off there victims corpse in order to insure a game that doesn\'t become dull or
un-dangerous. The Player should be able to also loot half the money off the victims corpse also.
- Next I think there should be faction hits for killing one\'s race only. For instance if Jade killed 4 of his dwarven kin in a day, the
dwarven guards would kill him on sight;till he regained his faction by killing evil aligned players or monsters.
In conclusion pking both randon and consentual should be allowed in Planeshift but with level restictions.
Anubis
Guest
posted 26-12-2001 23:29 GMT
I think that pking shouldn\'t be such a large roll in this game.
Cooperation, and teamwork, would be better. Such as working together on defeating monsters.
Buechler\'s idea of pking is a good one. But I don\'t think in the long run, that it will work out. If someone is mining. He doenst want
to die just because he didn\'t have armor on, in order to hold more ores. So there should be certain arena\'s where you can
congregate to fight. AND place bets on certain players.
Dueling could also be interesting. Such as each player agrees to duel. That way. No one feels that he has been abused by the
other player. As he himself has agreed on dueling.
Kendrick
Guest
posted 27-12-2001 04:18 GMT
I think realism should definalty be put into this game, I think you should be able to attack anywhere you want to, but NPC\'s will
dislike you and maybe they won\'t trade with you or something. Maybe have like a karma thing. The nicer you are to people, the
nicer people are to you. I think powerful gaurds should be put all over towns and along trails.
But I like the deul idea. Maybe Deuling won\'t hurt your karma, but random attacking will
the only reason I would not like PKing is if I was mining, or smithing. Maybe make it so you can\'t attack people that arn\'t wielding
swords, but if you do attack a large group of rangers will assist the poor attackee.
http://www.planeshift.cjb.net
Ancient One
Guest
posted 28-12-2001 04:27 GMT
Erm, I guess I will be the only person to actually answer Firestorm\'s question which was \'How do you feel about pking in
general?\' not \'How do you feel about pking in Planeshift?\'.
PKing whilst not fun for the other person is still actually a prominant part in Roleplay. For example if you are playing a
Highwaymen and you use the age old line \'Stand And Deliver, Your Money Or Your Life\' then the victim runs the right thing to do
is kill them so you are remaining IC. But PKing as in playing the part of a Cleric and killing newbies is not Roleplay its immature.
Tikysal
Guest
posted 28-12-2001 07:47 GMT
PKing gives benefit to people who like to powergame, forcing roleplayer to try to powergame as well. This game will be full of
COOL DUDEZ and people who play the game as a different version of quake of doom.
PKing is part of roleplaying, but if not controled it can become a caos. Mytharria (http://www.mytharria.com) does a good job in reguard
to PKING. They are a UO shard and they ban people for PKING with roleplaying. People never PK unless they have a reason to.
It depends on how much the dev teams want to make this game a Roleplaying Game. If they want to have another type of Ever
Crack, I dont care much, because I will not be plying it. But if they are trying to make a TRUE roleplaying game then I am
conserned.
Kendrick
Guest
posted 28-12-2001 08:05 GMT
boy, that powergaming and COOL DUDEZ stuff is way over my head...
PS Official Member
posted 26-12-2001 18:01 GMT
In an effort to inspire worthwhile descussion between fans I introduce to you a very contriversial topic. How do you feel about
pking in general? I will monitor the forum over time and take notes on the public opinion on the issue. Discuss !!!!!
....
Buechler
Guest
posted 26-12-2001 19:56 GMT
Heres my take on pking in general:
-It should be allowed in Planeshift but of course there will be very vigilant miltias in cities.
-pking should also be allowed outside of town ( not just in designated areas) but there should be level limits. For excample If I
had a lvl 4 dwarf he could only attack 4 lvls below and above him.
- thirdly I think pkers should be able to loot 1 item off there victims corpse in order to insure a game that doesn\'t become dull or
un-dangerous. The Player should be able to also loot half the money off the victims corpse also.
- Next I think there should be faction hits for killing one\'s race only. For instance if Jade killed 4 of his dwarven kin in a day, the
dwarven guards would kill him on sight;till he regained his faction by killing evil aligned players or monsters.
In conclusion pking both randon and consentual should be allowed in Planeshift but with level restictions.
Anubis
Guest
posted 26-12-2001 23:29 GMT
I think that pking shouldn\'t be such a large roll in this game.
Cooperation, and teamwork, would be better. Such as working together on defeating monsters.
Buechler\'s idea of pking is a good one. But I don\'t think in the long run, that it will work out. If someone is mining. He doenst want
to die just because he didn\'t have armor on, in order to hold more ores. So there should be certain arena\'s where you can
congregate to fight. AND place bets on certain players.
Dueling could also be interesting. Such as each player agrees to duel. That way. No one feels that he has been abused by the
other player. As he himself has agreed on dueling.
Kendrick
Guest
posted 27-12-2001 04:18 GMT
I think realism should definalty be put into this game, I think you should be able to attack anywhere you want to, but NPC\'s will
dislike you and maybe they won\'t trade with you or something. Maybe have like a karma thing. The nicer you are to people, the
nicer people are to you. I think powerful gaurds should be put all over towns and along trails.
But I like the deul idea. Maybe Deuling won\'t hurt your karma, but random attacking will
the only reason I would not like PKing is if I was mining, or smithing. Maybe make it so you can\'t attack people that arn\'t wielding
swords, but if you do attack a large group of rangers will assist the poor attackee.
http://www.planeshift.cjb.net
Ancient One
Guest
posted 28-12-2001 04:27 GMT
Erm, I guess I will be the only person to actually answer Firestorm\'s question which was \'How do you feel about pking in
general?\' not \'How do you feel about pking in Planeshift?\'.
PKing whilst not fun for the other person is still actually a prominant part in Roleplay. For example if you are playing a
Highwaymen and you use the age old line \'Stand And Deliver, Your Money Or Your Life\' then the victim runs the right thing to do
is kill them so you are remaining IC. But PKing as in playing the part of a Cleric and killing newbies is not Roleplay its immature.
Tikysal
Guest
posted 28-12-2001 07:47 GMT
PKing gives benefit to people who like to powergame, forcing roleplayer to try to powergame as well. This game will be full of
COOL DUDEZ and people who play the game as a different version of quake of doom.
PKing is part of roleplaying, but if not controled it can become a caos. Mytharria (http://www.mytharria.com) does a good job in reguard
to PKING. They are a UO shard and they ban people for PKING with roleplaying. People never PK unless they have a reason to.
It depends on how much the dev teams want to make this game a Roleplaying Game. If they want to have another type of Ever
Crack, I dont care much, because I will not be plying it. But if they are trying to make a TRUE roleplaying game then I am
conserned.
Kendrick
Guest
posted 28-12-2001 08:05 GMT
boy, that powergaming and COOL DUDEZ stuff is way over my head...