PlaneShift
Gameplay => Wish list => PvP,PK and Thieving => Topic started by: Malkai on September 04, 2002, 06:37:41 pm
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From what I have gathered here on these forums is that there will be no PKing X( ... that makes me mad! Why??? PKing is the main way to keep the fight between good and evil going in an MMORPG. And if you take that factor out then what do we have to settle our differences with? ARG I hope I am wrong. I would like a dev to answer this but I doubt it will happen.
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you might want to hide now cuz you are about to have you head bit off.... i just wish people would listen to us pvp supporters and maybe try to do some thing about it.
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sorry ive only been here a couple days and i dont wish to search over the thousands of topics just so i can find out a few questions. bite my head off if you want, or you could try to give me a straight answer so i wont ask again... thanks
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Let me answer you
PK will be freely allowed on Guild Wars, will be allowed if both players agree to it, and there will be a big arena where players can duel.
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Bah humbug X( that takes out all the joy of hiding behind a tree untill a little dwarf comes by to eat....
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Just get two or three enemy guilds and spread in the tree you want, dude :D
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The point of designated PK is to keep the game fun for everyone, if you want to PK, you can, just guild war or go to the arena, but if it was free for all PK, some people would exploit it, by killing those who are unprepared for conflict, those who don\'t want to fight, and helpless newbies who can do nothing but sit there, take a few hits, and die. As much fun as it might be for you to kill newbies by the handful, it is much less fun for them to have to die needlessly like that.
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thats why you make level ranges for PKing. A player should be within 4 or 5 levels to be PKed. Problem solved and the PKers would be happy.
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There should be some option that you can set if you want to be able to PvP without penalty. If both players who fight each other have it set then you can fight without being zapped by some god. That way you pker types can at least go around dueling people without having to be at an arena.
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That only takes care of the killing of newbies, if i was fighting, or otherwise minding my own business there is no way i would want some random stranger to come up and kill me, or even someone i knew for that matter. The way it is set up now is far better than having any
sort of free range PK
Edit: Aruneko, as Elentor said, there will be a dueling system, you arent limited to arenas
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you are right Shanky. It might make things EASY but it also eliminates the term \"ambush\" in the world of PS. But hey as long as PS is free I have no complaints.
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The newbies will suffer alot if pkers go around killing them for loot. As far as I know, its very hard to become alive again once you\'re killed.
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Originally posted by Malkai
thats why you make level ranges for PKing. A player should be within 4 or 5 levels to be PKed. Problem solved and the PKers would be happy.
levels for what? all the skills averaged together or something???
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There is no word \"ambush\" in the world of PlaneShift. PlaneShift is designed to be a communitive, friendly game, not one where you have to watch your back at every second. To implant free-for-all PK would mean to satisfy the small contingent of PKers at the great disatisfaction of the vast majority of non-PKers. If it comes down to it, and you want to PK, find someone to duel, and if they agree, you may duel. Or go to the arena, it isnt that much of a disconvenience, and it saves the common citizen from the grief of being needlessly PKed
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This has been discussed many times, you will duel in the arena, and thats final.
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Go on a Guild War, pay some pcs to be your spies and to report you where the enemies are. When you get to know their coordinates, wait somewhere to ambush them. Easy.
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I would like to quote ParaSite.
\"There is alot of people playing this game, and there is no way to please everyone\"
P.S. we can\'t really do much, since these type of topics pop up once in like 2 weeks, when the new ppl come, but it gets a bit annoing, to say the list, when there are three topics in a row, about PKing.
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yeah i know it probably does get annoying and im sorry for annoying those that are. PKing is something i just enjoy doing in any game. maybe i just like to kill people too much :(
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i know how ya feel malkai. all of us evil bastards like to kill people :D
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malkai, i just wanted to let you know that now the everyone knows that you are a fan of pking they will most likely look down on you. There are others that support the idea of a pvp system if youre interested. Valkry, magibountyhunter, spartan8, and myself are the main supporters of pvp on planeshift but it seems things seem doubtful, http://theorder.0catch.com/ this is valkry\'s guild check it out if you want, and everyone please dont look down on him so harshly the way that you do us, he didnt realize what hatrid you hold for pking people.
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hell i support pking as well. but i respect the devs decision and dont argue constantly about the subject. and as far as i know, no one looks down on me like that.
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i thought there was some conflict with the guild youre in and when you were being friendly towards valkry and stuff or something like that, it was in a post in the guild post that valkry made called \"why are we so hated\" i never understood all of that too well ?(
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well thats guild business. certainly not to be discussed on this forum.
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do you have aims, i wouldnt mind talking to you about it some if you dont mind, my aim screen name is ZigBlackwind if you care to im me some time if youre able too of course.
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I, as well respect and love PKing, to some extent. But i can understand a no, when someone says so. And, as i have said, there is nothing wrong with making a post here and there about it, but a no will still most likely be a no 2 weeks from now. No matter what you do, or how much you argue about it. As Malkai have said, as long as it is free, all of us, or most of us are happy. REALLY happy!
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ahhhh i understand now, i figured you would be the type of person that liked having a pvp system, its not that i dont understand the no part is just i dont agree with it and im going to do everything i can to find out a way to make things a close to what a free pking system would be like, i dont mean to cause problems as odd as that sounds i just really want to be able to pk people ;(
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Originally posted by Zig
malkai, i just wanted to let you know that now the everyone knows that you are a fan of pking they will most likely look down on you [...] please dont look down on him so harshly the way that you do us, he didnt realize what hatrid you hold for pking people.
Wrong...You are terribly wrong. Nobody holds anything against people who support PK. After all, I think the majority have tried games where it is allowed and enjoyed it. However, the community is annoyed by how persistant some of these \"PKing people\" are.
The devs have already decided to take a new, original turn with this game by limiting the Player Killing in the gaming world. Complaining all the time using the same fundaments (which some of us have been reading for months, others for ages) will not change their mind, no matter how hard you try. They want an enviroment that enhances roleplaying and encourage people to deeply interact with each other.
Besides, many people says that PlaneShift will be rather boring without \"free PKing\", but I think we, the players, should try the game as the devs want it to be, and then judge if it is boring or not. There is no point in complaining about something you have not even tried yet.
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so you mean you dont hate me for likeing pking? well then wtf do you get so mad at me, havent i contributed some good ideas to ps? I know i maybe persistant about things at times but thats just because i dont feel that i am even being listened to. I suppose i have been a bit selfish when only considering how i as a player wanted to see the game go. Thank you golbez i had not seen my arrogance till now. They are the ones working hard to make the game so i should be more respectful of their wishes. I am sorry :(
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If it really came down to it and there was free range PK, there are people like me, who really dont like Pking...and if i found it being abused in any manner, i would go out of my way to make sure that person learned a lesson. On an another note, PKing is not very realistic, in real life can you go around killing random people with wild abandon and not suffer consequences? No, and i dont think there should be a game that promotes that, in essence i would become a police force, but these are all my own opinions, if you like to mindlessly kill people, there is nothing i can do to stop you.
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shanky, the way that i would like to play is as a bounty hunter that risk his own life to benifit others by exterminating some of the skum that plagues the decent people tring to enjoy the game. My service would require adiquite funding of course but it would be well worth it. I wouldnt just go around massively murdering people, infact if there was someone who did do that they would be the first person on my hit list.
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But, even provided you keep your ways honest, not everyone would abide by your integrity, for every honorable PK there are 10 more who are dishonest, my only grievance with PK is abuse of the system, if you are within reason, i am fine with it, but to become a virtual bully is just wrong.
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i agree entirely, if it were possible one thing that i would like to see done would be a server devoted for people who do want to pk, you could just log on to that server to pk people and if you get sick of stronger people ganging you then you can switch servers and get stronger and come back and kick the s#*@! out of them, i am still keeping hope that in the future maybe if the game is successful enough that i would be able to see a system that way
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shanky, the way that i would like to play is as a bounty hunter that risk his own life to benifit others by exterminating some of the skum that plagues the decent people tring to enjoy the game
I like to play my mmorpgs as the evil guy that will group up with other high levels and camp out a road that many people travel thru and then pick someone to kill and track down and kill many times. In evercrack i played a troll shadow knight that was twinked to the max and owning everything that stepped out of West Freeport. I like roleplaying these characters the best because I think one of the funnest ways in roleplaying a mmorpg is through grudges from the people you battle.
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In even that crappy runescape game, there\'s pvp. Those who don\'t want pvp simply turn the option off.
In this case, there should be a timer for turning off pvp so you can\'t turn it off during a battle.... or maybe a location to turn on/off the pvp option.
It shouldn\'t be restricted to only a big arena.... I played Redmoon, they had that and it sucks.
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Originally posted by Rageburst
In even that crappy runescape game, there\'s pvp.
and thats mostly why runescape was ruined.
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Originally posted by Zig
i agree entirely, if it were possible one thing that i would like to see done would be a server devoted for people who do want to pk, you could just log on to that server to pk people and if you get sick of stronger people ganging you then you can switch servers and get stronger and come back and kick the s#*@! out of them, i am still keeping hope that in the future maybe if the game is successful enough that i would be able to see a system that way
So True, I think this is what causes problems in RS... Identical servers...
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Believe it or not, I\'m a PK supporter too. But there are 2 simple reasons why i think it should not be implemented:
1. I can understand that some people dislike it. And while my game without PK would be a little less fun, their game would be entirely ruined if PK was in it.
2. The majority of the devs have voted against PK and that is final (for now :)). No post of mine or anyone else here is gonna change that. And I respect their decision.
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oh come on......you people complaining about there being no pking (which there is, just not open pking except with guild wars) have no creativity, there are plenty of ways to bring people down without openly slicing off their head, although that may be more fun, its just not going to happen
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how so? hmmm maybe i could keep talking to them in CAPS untill they got pissed off enough to duel me!
P.S. And hey wouldnt that be damn cool if you could slice of their heads?
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......yes it would :D
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agreed! i think we should be able to slice off limbs and body parts! :D
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hmmmmmmm, blood-thirsty little maniacs aren\'t u? well, i have nothing against slicing off body parts (hunter: the reckoning, awesome game, also u would have decapitated zombies or just zombie legs coming after u).