PlaneShift
Gameplay => Wish list => PvP,PK and Thieving => Topic started by: *Md* on January 24, 2003, 06:43:27 pm
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C\'mon whats more fun then pking? veng I know your the dev here what anybody else says doesn\'t matter to me unless they are a dev... I know you say the devs are against pking but do your opinions as devs really account for everyone\'s opinions who play the game... I know that its your game so you can do what you want but if its a problem with some people can\'t the pk system have an area designated for pking??? like an area where fighters could train fighting and this would attract pkers out there to look for npc\'s and also to pk... training spots for fighters could also be in the non-pker areas so that it would be fair to those who dont want to pk or be pked... i also don\'t know if you guys plan on doing mining or smithing as skills... some of you guys are gonna say read the main site blah blah blah... but i dont wanna go search forever to find what im looking for when its easier to do here... im just gonna say to be careful of the rare and valuable items in the game... you probably already know this but another game i played a free mmorpg just like this one became ruined because of smithing and created monopolies and now the game is starting to really suck i dont even wanna play it anymore... thats why im looking into new games like planeshift... i think its great you guys are doing this... pking is a lot of fun tho... so if the devs and some gamers dont like pking make most of the game a non-pking environment... it wouldnt be too hard to make a pk system in just one area of the game
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Here is a PK thread (http://www.planeshift3d.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=2141&boardid=13&styleid=2) in which you posted earlier.
Re-read the arguements and pretend they are new.
Now it has been discussed.
*~End of Thread~*
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since the idea of PKing is disliked around here, could there be something like, you attack the person and you knock them out, but you cant kill them, that way for the people who like to be thieves have something to do, they knock you out and then pick pocket you and run off without being seen, however if they pick the wrong person, and that person is much stronger they cant be knocked out ,but the thief themselves can be knocked out and the person they attacked can steal from them.... and also there can be like a thing were people get tired of this certain theif, and they group together to find him, then, when they do, they knock him out, tie him up, and drag him into the arena where justice will be served on him by those who hes stolen from.... or if theyre quick enough about it, maybe noone will ever know who it was that just knocked them out and stole their stuff, of course certain items can be resticted from being stolen determined by the theifs lvl and the value of the item....
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Originally posted by kinshadow
Here is a PK thread (http://www.planeshift3d.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=2141&boardid=13&styleid=2) in which you posted earlier.
Re-read the arguements and pretend they are new.
Now it has been discussed.
*~End of Thread~*
what\'s up with all you people and all your board rules garbage... who cares if there are 5,000 topics about this it doesn\'t really matter... nobody wants to read thru the 80+ posts or whatever it is on that other topic... god gimme a break... end of thread who are you??? your one of many reasons this game needs a pk system :D
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and you are the reason there shouldn\'t be a PK System
you are also the reason there should be a Hate System.
go read the past threads if you want people to care about your opinion.
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abemore go maybe you should read my thread more carefully before you post... i posted that i dont like reading all kinds of stuff just to try and hope i find one answer thats why i just make a new thread... so maybe you should read before you talk huh? whats your reason to flame me? i flamed him because he acts like hes god or something saying end of thread... i didnt say anything about anyone else... fighting creates conflict... conflict is fun :)
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I\'m just trying to get something I like into the game because I KNOW it would make the game more fun and more appealing to play... martin luther king was disliked by most whites but that didn\'t stop him from trying... so even though most of you are against me and I cannot understand how so many of you are actually against pking im not gonna stop trying... I don\'t really care what most of you say thats why IF YOU READ MY THREAD I posted if your not a dev what you say doesn\'t matter much to me anyways :)
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please dont stress the PK system any longer, its not going in, although I dont know how the knocking out thing is gonna go through and if anyone would like it anymore then a PK system, I just kinda wanted to have some way so that there can be bad guys just to give you that insecure feeling, even when sitting in your own home (in the game that is)
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planeshift has potential... pking systems only help games... planeshift would be better with pking... you say its not going to happen why not??? you make an area where pking is just allowed in that specific area... so if you want to pk you can... if you dont want to pk you simply never set foot in the pking area... a knocking out system is a worse idea... so when someone is trying to work on some other skill and dont even have any armour on them someone will come over and knock them out and take all their stuff... yeah good idea... what are we gonna make an area that is specified for knocking out?? which would just be a toned down version of pking?
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Originally posted by *Md*
you say its not going to happen why not???
BECAUSE THE DEVS SAID IT WONT
ok.. do you understand that?
Originally posted by *Md*
you make an area where pking is just allowed in that specific area... so if you want to pk you can
Thats what the arena is for
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Originally posted by Kiern
Originally posted by *Md*
you say its not going to happen why not???
BECAUSE THE DEVS SAID IT WONT
ok.. do you understand that?
Ok so the devs said it won\'t so what... the devs are making this game not only for themselves for everyone to enjoy... theres talk about guild wars or whatever... but how can guild wars always work if everyone cannot be online due to different time zones and things in real life that are more important? if theres 10 people in each guild and 8 people from 1 guild are online and 2 people from the other guild are online it wouldnt be a very fair fight
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it seems like your talking about majority rule MD, well majority rules you shut your mouth and type nothing more about PKing...
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if theres 10 people in each guild and 8 people from 1 guild are online and 2 people from the other guild are online it wouldnt be a very fair fight
Why would it matter then if there was pking? If they were to have a war, the 2 would still die (unless i was one of the 2 :] ) Stop changing the subject to cover up your ignorance.
And how would you feel to start out a great game (brownie points) and then have some idiot come up to you and pk you. Not to good. It would create many cons with only a few pro\'s...1 being YOUR sheer enjoyment.
Final Thoughts:
If you want to pk go play runescape. <<< (Great...ahahaha) (couldn\'t think of anything else)
An avid supporter of Pking (in other games)
Clover :]
Oops, posted this while he was posting the \"no more pking policy, sworry :P \"
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the devs say something and you guys all take their side... thats why i said there should be a pking area so if your new you wont start in the pk area and only will be pked if you go out into the pk area
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Originally posted by *Md*
you make an area where pking is just allowed in that specific area... so if you want to pk you can
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Thats what the arena is for
Nuff said
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I thought the arena was just for guild wars... guild wars arent pking
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To my knowlege, of history and this game,
An arena is used as a formal place of fighting of 2 individuals, a person against a beast, or groups of peopel against groups of beasts,
the fighting of 2 people sounds like a \"pk\" type fight. a player would be killing another player, granted nothing would be gained from the fight except some exp. (if there is any) and in a rping situation pking should not be your top priority.
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well thats a little better i thought the only purpose of the arena was just for guild wars
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i solved the problem, i solved the problem :]
can i have some milk now?
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yeh but i still think there should be some kind of pk system :)
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there is a pk system. Guild wars, arena fights, and possibly duels. Beyond that, no there is no PKing and never will be. Like it or not.
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Just in case you still have not realized it, guild wars supposedly will be able to be anywhere, but only guild wars, everything else that has to do with pking belongs in the arena (as it should be)
Unless perhaps maybe tournaments ;) ;) ;)
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Originally posted by *Md*
what\'s up with all you people and all your board rules garbage... who cares if there are 5,000 topics about this it doesn\'t really matter... nobody wants to read thru the 80+ posts or whatever it is on that other topic... god gimme a break... end of thread who are you??? your one of many reasons this game needs a pk system :D
I think the big confusion here is that THERE IS ALREADY A PK SYSTEM!
It\'s called GUILD WARS!
The arena is for non-guild related shoot-em-up fights.
If you want to kill someone join a guild. If your in a non-fair fight, then that\'s your problem. There will be un-fair fights in both caes. I can tell you now that if we had a open \"kill\'em all\" solution, you would be the first to be ganked.
Go play Shadowbane or Felucia UO if that is not enough. And take your *~ascii~* art with you.
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i solved the problem, i solved the problem
can i have some milk now?
I believe i made myself clear i solved the problem,
so why don\'t we be good little boys and evil little girls and drop this topic :P
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FMIDDY is right, I think there should be a KO system in the game. That way nobody would get hurt \"for real\" and there would be more room for thiefes who wanna steal.
I wanna have a \"stamina\" meter so that you can knock a player out instead of PK him (I don\'t want PKing either) Read my thread \"meters\" for more info
However there\'s some problems..and some solutions as well...
Problem 1- If you\'re in town and somebody team up, attack you and steal all your stuff and your clothes leaving you on the ground, would other players attack the team to recover your stuff or just knock the team out and steal their stuff AND your stuff?
I can just imagine a big fight in town where everybody runs around and steal each others stuff. :D
Solution- Put some guards in town which will stop people from stealing from you. (of course it isn\'t impossible)
They use the same tecnique to KO the thiefes.
Then the thief have to pay a fine. If the thief is poor and have got no money then the guards simply take everything he\'s got, beat him up, and leaves him on the ground (even his clothes)
Problem 2- If you are close to a monster and a thief Knocks you out...will the monster kill you when you wake up?
This would be some kind of a PK system, and it would be unacceptable.
Solution- I think that some monsters (like goblins if there\'s any) simply captures the player, steal all his stuff (if he had any) and then throw the player into a dungeon or something.
Then the player had to get out, either by himself, or he/she could get help from another player.
There should be a message-board in town where you could offer rewards for the bounty-hunter who captures him and bring him to you (so that you can bring him to court or something)
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You solved problem 1 perfectly, except there needs to be dark back alleys un guarded so that you can still be robbed in the city, the more chances to be robbed the more fun it is :D. but as for problem 2, first of all the theif would have to carry a blunt weapon, like a club or a blackjack, then for the actual knockout you have to take the theives strength into account, and the other players defense to see how many hits, if the thief has a strength of 5 and the player has a strength from 6-10, 2 hits, this helps also keeps lower lvl players from attacking higher lvl players, and in return, the higher lvl player can give a good smite right about the theifs head as to layeth his body across the ground. That way they cant get anything really good if they havent earned it, also, this would not take any health, and if you woke up with a monster nearby, simply run or attack, because being knocked out doesn\'t really hurt you unless you were knocked out by a large bus or other large moving objects, I mean, for the sake of realism you might want to add a 10 HP deduction for being knocked out, I couldnt see it taking more. Also in relation to the hated system, there could be a bounty type system, or a wanted system, if a person steals from someone, and they happen to notice who they are, they can go report it to a guard, and that player will have 1 point added to his wanted lvl, the top 3 wanted guys could get their own wanted posters, however there should be limits to this system so you cannot report a fake theft, or if you try, that guard can knock you out for it or put you in jail for false alligations, also, after your wanted lvl gets so high, PK could be enabled on you, and your wanted poster would read \"wanted dead or alive\".
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Originally posted by *Md*
the devs say something and you guys all take their side...
No, we just happen to agree with them.
And, about getting robbed in a dark alley, theivery is already being planned, and does not need to include pking. Nobody knows how to do it (yet) but it\'ll come.
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lol whatever once the game starts i will get people to join me for a guild and become the most evil guild around... yeh you guys all hate me now... but once the game comes out im gonna be the one who makes it fun for you all when everyone wants me dead :)... its actually fun to play this role in the game :)... :evil:
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We won\'t hate you if you accept the way things will be.
But if you get into an evil guild, then you can do all the wars you want. Have fun!