PlaneShift
Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Mr Tennet on March 30, 2017, 12:47:12 pm
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It is time for me to buy a new laptop, I have never been comfortable with them, darn things, but need something that can roam around the house with me. The toughest thing it will have to cope with will be PS so am wondering what the current player base is using. If you play PS on a laptop, even with lower graphics settings please post your Manufacturer, Model number and spec here.
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You should probably get a dedicated GPU for the sake of running PS without having to fiddle around.
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Considering that the dev team is or was looking at porting the game to eu4 (unreal) it might be a good idea to get a laptop that meets those requirements too.
I don't have those requirements handy atm.
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I'm not on a laptop, but apparently my PC is a bit low end for PlaneShift nowadays - no wonder, it's 9 years old. BUT the only difference between a lap and a desk is a few fans and that everything is crammed together.
That being said, I'm playing on a 256Mb VRAM, 4Gb RAM, 3.06GHz 2 core machine. The rest is addons. The client runs just about... "fine" to say something. But consider the following: if you're looking to be up to date with UE4, you should plan ahead.
Think that Epic Games won't stop there and go further with UE5, so I'd recommend someting with 2Gb of VRAM tops, 8Gb RAM, and any CPU with at least 4 cores, so we're talking an i5 or equivalent. I'm fairly certain you can find a lappy like that somewhere. But if I can recommend... building yourself a desktop might result in less of a headache and room for improvement later on.
Then again, I'm a cat, not a cop. So do as you wish. Am I the only one that has given him actual specs?
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You should also reconsider when buying that you can install linux to your laptop, everything runs far smoother than on windows, exspecially with the lighter distros, so you won't need as good specs as mishka said. I once run PS on very old laptop, which had bodhi on it and was way smoother than i expected.
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Don't know your budget or if you'd even consider a MacBook, but it's what I use when I want to be out on my patio when not using my iMac and it works very well.
2012, 2.3 GHz 4 core i7, 4 GB ram. You could also natively run Windows 7 or Linux on this too.
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You should also reconsider when buying that you can install linux to your laptop, everything runs far smoother than on windows, exspecially with the lighter distros, so you won't need as good specs as mishka said. I once run PS on very old laptop, which had bodhi on it and was way smoother than i expected.
Anything is smoother than Windows unless you've got a beefy thing.
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Indeed, poibt being you won't need beefy laptop if you are fine ditching windows.
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Point is, Mac and Linux are more efficient because UNIX-based OS's are usually running cleaner than the unoptimized package of crap that's Windows, which is DOS based. But I'm not telling you to get a dedicated laptop. You can get a 1Gb VRAM, 4GB RAM, 2.GHz lappy with a 1TB HDD or SSD and make a partition. Dedicate 750Gb to your Windows stuff, and 250Gb to games like PS, or even less.
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Windows hasn't ran on DOS since NT and XP. That's the reason none of my Dos games will work! :'( That and nothing has floppy drives 5 1/4 or 3 1/2. ;D
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OP, if you're used to Windows, I suggest getting a Windows laptop. These guys aren't considering the outrageous prices for Apple products and the rarity of laptops with no pre-installed OS (for installing Linux). Windows is absolutely fine for gaming and better in most cases than either of the other OS's mentioned.
You can always install Linux if you don't like Windows or Mac. But if you're used to Windows and you get a Mac, you may hate the experience. And vice versa.
As for specs, you really don't need much to run PS. But I suggest having a dedicated GPU with at least 2GB VRAM. You could definitely run the game on an i3 or similar CPU (if it's one of the faster ones). Laptops with dedicated GPUs usually come with at least i5's, though. If you're not planning on playing any modern games on high settings, both of those will give you a reasonably nice experience.
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You don't need computer with no preinstalled os,you can just go with dual boot and the installation is pretty easy if you want linux (depends from distro tho)
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Not everyone wants to pay the extra cash for an OS, though. Maybe OP isn't worried about that. In which case he probably won't want to bother dual-booting since he already has an OS for running PS.
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True, but if you have a lot of windows games/software you might want to have dual boot with win cause wine always doesnt work so perfectly (but works, too).
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Unless you specifically want to use Linux, I don't see any need to replace your OS or set it up for dual boot. A third option is to run a vmware instance ( I think it's called virtual box these days ) and run the desired OS and game within that instance. Yet another option would be to set up a usb live-boot image ... but if you are asking for machine specs then I'm guessing that you are probably not interested in going to these extents.
The game works with Windows... so I hear.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I don't need to run PS in all is glory, actually got it running on an Asus notebook, AMD C-60, 1 GB ram, no dedicated GPU, I hate these things even more than laptops :). I have used Linux now for more than 10 years and already have a self built desktop. Just want something to roam with so After your advice it looks like I am looking for a second hand i3, Dell, HP or Lenovo. Should manage that for £200 or less.
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From my experiences, i would go for lenovo from your options. ;)
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For Linux I´d either go with ThinkPad or maybe, I am not sure yet, something like Tuxedo Computers or a similar Linux laptop retailer, there is at least an international one as well. I am not yet sure whether how they are with a built quality that matches my expectations, especially regarding the keyboard. But the model policy and expandability of ThinkPads kinda sucks.
So far I never worked on any laptop with a better keyboard than a ThinkPad tough. I even have an external ThinkPad USB compact keyboard meanwhile, although its a bit stiffer than the internal one from my ThinkPad T520. With Intel Sandybridge graphics it is still fast enough *for me* to play PlaneShift with above medium, but not highest quality graphics setting in Full HD resolution (1920x1080). Note its between 15 to 50 fps, so if you are into PvP… this won´t cut your needs. I didn´t test Crystal Hunt yet, but I am pretty sure that anything recent like Skylake or even Kabylake will be able to just play PlaneShift easily, even on Unreal. Its about 3-4 generations or more after Sandybridge and for some generational switches they managed to double the speed in most areas. Actually even a *used* ThinkPad like T540 and above, i.e. Haswell, may be good enough.
*However* regarding freedom from Intel Advanced Management Technology (AMT) remote access crap… I am still also looking for AMD based laptops. With a nice APU they may provide better GFX performance than integrated Intel graphics. Yet if you want a laptop that has a slim and elegant thing instead of a heavy brick as a power supply and a long battery life, I strongly advise against any laptop with external GPU. On Linux I advice against NVidia anyway. Just search "NVidia fuck you" on youtube or probably other video sites for a nice summary from Linus for the reason for that recommendation.
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Thinkpad is fine but there is one flaw that totally breaks workflow for most people:
they put the darn Fn to wrong (left) side of the rightctrl.
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Sharpkeys fixes any weird keyboard layouts.