The Official Don't Vote Thread

[Monketh]

Objection!
*Monketh opens a briefcase and withdraws from it, bringing out a large stack of cleanly cut papers*

I have in my hands historical evidences that anarchy is detrimental to the entire of society, more dangerous, even, than absolute dictatorship.
Anarchy breeds the worst from of government, organized crime.  It is for this reason, and this reason is only one of many, that the election of a ruling figure, or else a council of ruling figures, must be brought to its\' natural conclusion.
The brutal oppression of the masses to be wrought in future times should this man succeed in pressuring a boycott of your one and only ability to voice will shock and awe you.  For the sake of your children and your loved ones I must entreat you to speak through the ballot!  It is your best and primary hope.

As for this man, he blinds you with his light of \"freedom\"!  Tragic as it may be, the most efficient route for him to eliminate his opponents from the race to power is simply to prevent the race in the first place and seize it for himself.  Do not forward his goal, if you so despise those running for the office, do not let that be your excuse, run yourself!

The only right I cannot give you is the right to apathy, my fellow citizens.  It is your responsibility to ensure your own future.  The Oligarch will be elected, whether or not he is your oligarch is in your hands entirely.  Go well, ladies and gentlemen, and live well.

[darkerdreams]

Being silent means only that your voice is not heard.
In a democracy those who vote rule, while those who are silent change nothing.
If you want change you must do something to make change- not allow change to be something done to you.

~Korm

[Under the moon]

*Argigus nods to Monketh, though he eyes the breifcase warily (you see, he had a bad run-in with one as a child, also, he fears papercuts)*

You speak wisdom, though I fear that many will be deaf to your words. Not one Hopeful has yet to step forth. I fear that all courage may have left the lands.

So I implore you all, cast off your fears! Place your name on THIS SCROLL . BE the next Octarch...or we will be forced to give the job to Xordan, the very embodiment of corruption.

[Induane]

What you are preaching Efflixi sounds like a revolt. And revolutions are dangerous and rarely carry the desired result.  Revolts have a way of returning to their pre-revolt state after a time.

\"Every revolution carries within it the seeds of its own destruction, and Empires that rise must someday fall\"

                                    -Frank Herbert

Origionally posted by Under the Moon:

Isn\'t it amusing how anti-government anarchists always turn out to be the best leaders?

Agreed, hypocracy isn\'t it? What anarchist LEADS? Hmmm...

Induane gets out a small letter grade scale. - Sets Pure Communism on one side, and Anarchy on the other...

Studies the results...

Its official, anarchy is nonsenical ravings of power hungary lunatics.

Induane starts cranking his patent pending political machine, setting the wheels in motion to bring true communism the the realm.

*ponders ponders... does the end justify the means?

[Ashamn]

I have in my hands historical evidences that anarchy is detrimental to the entire of society, more dangerous, even, than absolute dictatorship.
Anarchy breeds the worst from of government, organized crime.  It is for this reason, and this reason is only one of many, that the election of a ruling figure, or else a council of ruling figures, must be brought to its\' natural conclusion.

=\\ err what the hell are u talking about? Anarchy isnt that! Anarchy is the power with the people! Its the united comunity that fights for its survival. Its the union of individual\'s interests for the common objective. The creation of a stable society were there are no classes, and no tyrants to rule over no one! Its the utopia, and i fight for the utopia in Hydlaa!

What you are preaching Efflixi sounds like a revolt. And revolutions are dangerous and rarely carry the desired result. Revolts have a way of returning to their pre-revolt state after a time.

It isn\'t a revolt, it\'s an expression, It\'s an opinion. Revolts use and abuse of strenght and violence, and i havent saw till now anything like that.

What anarchist LEADS? Hmmm...

It leads to the utopia, the perfection, a total different thing of the things i\'ve heard on this last posts.

Its official, anarchy is nonsenical ravings of power hungary lunatics.

Am I a lunatic? No.

Induane starts cranking his patent pending political machine, setting the wheels in motion to bring true communism the the realm.

Finnaly something that i\'ve heard that pleased me.

Just a thing, arent Communism and Anarchy things that have something to do with each other? Study a lil better the Anarchy and then check..

I say no to elections, i wont vote, i wont ever recognize anyone with a greater power then me or the rest of the Yliakum habbitants (in a political way, guilds are excluded, they are groups of ppl that are grouped for a reason, no one is forced to be on a guild).

I do fell that only a few or no ones are with me. But i\'ll maintain my opinion.

[buddha]

People seem to be having problems with this definition.  From

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=anarchy

Anarchy: an?ar?chy    
n. pl. an?ar?chies
Absence of any form of political authority.
Political disorder and confusion.
Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.

n : a state of lawlessness and disorder (usually resulting from a failure of government)

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So basically all of the active anarchists on this thread are violating the definition of anarchy by saying things like \"power with the people\".  That\'s okay, it just weakens their arguments a bit.  They are mostly preaching forms of socialism.

Also, I can\'t think of any historical anarchic societies.  Even hunter-gatherers were oligarchies.  Even if you are out with say, six or more friends, you development a small government to decide which movie you\'re going to see, where to eat dinner, etc.   I\'m not an expert on this, so please correct me.

[Ashamn]

\"Anarchism generally is identified as chaos, for being a doctrine politics that defends the abolition of any type of formal government;  but, in the truth it is not this well. This word is formed by the suffix of archon, that in Greek it means governor, and an, that means without.  Or either, Anarchism means \"without government literally\".  The main idea that conducts the anarquismo is of that the government is total unnecessary, violent and harmful, in view of that if all the population can, voluntariamente, if to organize and to survive in peace and harmony.\"
(removed from an Anarchist site wich i dont remenber the link, just keeped this text an some other in a file to use them later. Translated from portuguese to english so sorry for any mistake).


I cant change what dictionarys say or prove theyr wrong, specialy when the meaning of what anarchy is treatd like trash or its confused with Anarco-Punk movements ideologism.

[Moogie]

[Argue definitions in the Hydlaa Plaza forum. All Octarch Election threads are now moved to the Roleplay section and posts herein should stay In-Character and On-Topic.]

[Under the moon]

Arnigus shrugs as Moogie of the ever changing avitar -all by her little self- shoves the growing crowd into the little used and very dusty forum where plays are often acted out. He takes a seat on one of the cold stone benches.

\"Ouch, banished to the RP forum.\"

[Efflixi Aduro]

Being sent to the RP forum isn\'t a punushment, it\'s an honor.

IC:
I\'m just a humble man, interpret my words as you wish but only taking them the proper way shall lead you to your salvation.

[Zan]

But who is to say that taking your words in the way you see them is the proper way for all of us?

For a humble man you seem awfully certain that your own truth is the one and only truth.

[John_Thazer]

\"Oh not another anarcist! Why is this world is full of your kind? No go away quietly, while you can. I do not threaten you personaly but some people, sometimes, are too over zelos and come to...rash decisions.\"

[Cyl]

\"I am torn between the two sides of the coin. Either vote the doom, or not vote and probably see the the worst of all arising.\"

He steps up from the stair he had been sitting on.

\"There are two types of politians, corrupt ones, and dead ones, but this system is to spread to stop it.\"

[Efflixi Aduro]

Originally posted by Zan
But who is to say that taking your words in the way you see them is the proper way for all of us?

For a humble man you seem awfully certain that your own truth is the one and only truth.

You do not understand. I am simply spreading the truth that I see to the world, I am not forcing anyone to comply.

[Pfeffa]

*looks at this all from a distance and thinks:*
hmmmm, there might be a song in this!