Agitating for a constitution

[Cirerey]

It is our hope to begin RPing political agitation, meetings etc, towards a new constitution for Yliakum. I'm attaching a partial draft below to start the conversation.

Please note - this is an RP constitution that won't actually change anything OOCly. Mine was written deliberately to allow the admins to continue to run the game ICly. Since they would control the high court, the Octarch seats on all unimplemented levels, and the NPC vote to elect officials actually overruling them is impossible. Also, if they choose not to allow it to happen, the implementation procedure I created will allow them to vote it down easily IC. This is an RP revolt only.

Here is the draft:

The combined races of Yliakum, guided by the religious traditions of this place and our wise leaders, enact the following constitution to serve as foundational law of Yliakum from this time forward. The law of Yliakum will henceforth be based on the principles of freedom, justice, dignity, equality, and mercy. And all laws and offices within the bronze doors shall be subject to the provisions of this document and subordinate to it.

This Constitution is to supersede and build on the Octarchal Decree of AY 425. Any provision of The Decree not explicitly superseded in this constitution shall be considered a valid part of this constitution.

Section 1: Structure of government

Yliakum is to be ruled by a council of 8 Octarchs known as the inner circle. Under their supervision shall serve a council of twenty Vigesimi Known as the outer circle. As a check against the unfettered power of these officials, and to maintain justice there shall be a high court chartered to defend the constitution and depose tyrants and traitors.


Article I: octarchs

Powers and Duties
 Defense of the Realm (octarchal guard, shadow /Sunshine squadron)
 Supervision of Vigesimi
   The Octarch of a level may choose to review the decisions of a Vigesimi on appeal of
   an unsatisfied party, or through his own discretion. The decision of the Octarch
   may be appealed by a person with proper standing to the Last Mortal Court.
 Enactment of laws both locally and for all of Yliakum by decree of the Inner Circle.

Term of office
 4 cycles, elections of even numbered levels on even numbered numbered cycles and odd
 numbered levels on odd numbered cycles.
 Offset so that elections for two levels will be held in each year.

Elections and appointments
 Should an octarch be unable to complete his term in office the Last Mortal
 court may appoint an acting octarch to serve until an election can reasonably
 be held to finish the term of the former official.

Publishing of proceedings [Placing of new law into Jayose's bookshelf of laws to make it official, posting notices of it's existence]

Article II: vigesimi

Powers and Duties
 Law and order
   As specified in The Octarchal Decree of AY 425 The Guards and Vigesimi will
   create and enforce a just state. Under the Vigesimi, the guards will be responsible
   for the execution of justice and the resolution of disputes.
   Crimes and their punishments shall be judged by the
   Vigesimi.

   The decisions of the guards may be appealed by a party with proper
   standing in the matter to the Vigesimi of the level.

   Likewise the decision of the
   Vigesimi may be appealed to the Octarch of the level.

 tax collections
 public works

Term of office
 4 cycles, elections of even numbered levels on even numbered cycles and odd
 numbered levels on odd numbered cycles.
 Offset so that elections for two levels will be held in each year.
 The elections for vigesimi on each level will be offset from the election for
 octarch by two years.

Elections and appointments
 Should an vigesimi be unable to complete his term in office the octarch
 of that level may appoint an acting vigesimi to serve until an
 election can reasonably be held to finish the term of the former official.

 No person may simultaneously serve as both octarch and vigesimi.

Publishing of proceedings [posting notices of decisions]

Article III: Last Mortal Court

So named as the highest court. There is no appeal from it's
decision other than prayer.

Powers and Duties
 Power to overrule laws on constitutional grounds
 Power to impeach treasonous officials
 Right to review Octarchal rulings

Term of office
 Lifetime

Elections and appointments
 [Lifetime appointments - this is the admin's IC trump card]

Publishing of proceedings [posting notices of decisions]

Section Two:
Basic laws and rights of the people:

Article I: Origin of Sovereignty

 The Government of the Yliakum exists to serve the people of Yliakum. Therefore all
 sovereign authority derives from the government and actions of the government that serve
 interests other than those of the peoples of Yliakum are inherently treasonous.

Article II: Hand of The Law

I. When issues of legal contention arise it shall fall upon the guards or the nearest military office to settle such disputes. When the dispute requires justice, such as disagreements over land, possessions, or other serious issues, they shall fall under the jurisdiction of the Vigesimi.

II. The execution of these laws is to be handled by the authority of the Vigesimi in charge of each town or region. The Octarch of each level shall be the final arbiter of justice for his or her sovereign lands. Appeals of the Octarchs decision may be made to the Last Mortal Court, if it chooses to hear them. Preservation of the Octarchy means the preservation of all living sentient beings under its reign. The Octarchal decree shall be followed by all who wish shelter within Octarchal borders.

Article III: Rights of the People

 All persons within all of Yliakum are fundamentally equal before the law.
 All persons have an inherent fundamental right to their life, freedom, dignity,
 and property.

III.  No person shall be deprived of their property except through a valid legal transaction or direct intervention of a Vigesimi or Octarch. Such intervention shall be subject to due process of notice and/or fair compensation. The taking of private property must serve a general interest. Taken property must be fairly compensated, except in the case of abandoned property. Abandoned property reverts to Octarchal ownership. Many of the races of Yliakum did not enter its lands with a concept of private property or ownership and this led to many conflicts. By law it is now the case that all persons are to respect the idea of an individual’s right to hold and keep their material wealth personally.

IV. It is useful in relation to lands to make a distinction between public and private property. Private property shall be established by ownership and maintenance of an area by an individual. Public lands are all the rest of the land, which fall under the responsibility of the Octarch.

V. Ownership of private property incurs the burden of taxation. When taxes are required they will be paid to the Vigesimi. These taxes can go only for the maintenance of the guards and to sponsor the needs of the military in defense of the Octarchy. Abandoned property shall be defined by the nonpayment of these taxes, and such property may be confiscated by the Octarchy to be put back into productive use.

VI. Male, female and Kran children shall be made to fight with sticks and throw stones at targets from the earliest age that they can do so. Our world is harsh and citizens of the Octarchy must be more so. In addition, all children may assert their entitlement to the pursuit of non-combative personal interests and skills.

VII. Once an adult, all peoples must seek and provide monies for at least one year of weapons and armor training, unless such training conflicts with personal ideals and/or beliefs. In addition, all adults may assert their entitlement to the pursuit of non-combative personal interests and skills.

  a) Citizens who are deemed unable to assist in the protection of Yliakum by the Octarch
     of  the level may be levied an additional tax to support the Octarchal guard at the
     discretion of the Octarch. Reasons for inability to serve in the militia as all
     citizens are obliged include religious objection, physical inability,
     and moral unfitness to serve.

VIII. All citizens must be always prepared to protect themselves and defend their property or to make adequate financial provision for engaging such means of protection and defence.

IX. Land owners who face the true death shall have their land and possessions given to the nearest relative. The order of inheritance is proscribed thusly: spouse, oldest living child, oldest living sibling, parents, or if none of the above survive the ownership of the lands reverts to the Octarchy. All issues of inheritance will be settled through petition of the Vigesimi.

X. As a matter of the preservation of honor, and so that citizens might police their own disputes in most cases, the duel shall be permitted and the duelists shall take their own lives in their hands. No duel is to occur in the towns of Yliakum except within an area designated for such combat. If no such area is dedicated in a given town or city, duelists shall be required to leave the town or city to fight in the wilderness. The right to duel shall be extended to allow guilds to settle their differences through battle if they agree to do so.

XI. The resources of the land belong to the Vigesimi and shall be mined or gathered only when made available to the public by the Octarchy under the supervision of the nearest Vigesimi.

XII. Right to equal protection of law.

 A) All persons shall have equal protection and obligation under this constitution regardless
    of race, gender, religion, origin, citizenship, wealth, social standing, or political
    office. The terms of this constitution apply though out all of Yliakum,
    no area or person is exempt.

  B) No person may be subjected to cruel and degrading treatment. Torture is explicitly
     prohibited

  C) No person may be held as a slave or coerced in any way other than legal imprisonment
     for the commission of a crime, or a call to service to defend the realm. Nor may a
     person be deprived of his rights as a citizen, personhood, or name for any reason.

  D) Right to protection of the law.
     All persons have a right to proper legal process for the settling of issues. Justice must
     follow it's proper legal course and all have an equal right to it. This includes the right to duel
     as specified in article X

  E) Right of speech.
     It is the right of a person to speak freely. This includes political speech and the right
     of a free press.

   F) Freedom of Religion
      No person may be compelled to join a faith or be forced to follow the tenets thereof.
      Nor shall adherence to a faith alone be banned, however this provides no protection
      against punishment for criminal acts.

   G) Right to gather and associate, to form guilds and associations for any except criminal purposes.

   H) Equal right to work and profit.
      No person shall be deprived of equal opportunity to work and profit from their labors
      based on race, gender, religion, origin, citizenship, wealth, social standing,
      or political office. Nor shall any person be permitted undue opportunity to work and
      profit based on these factors.

   I) No law may abridge the right to express ones culture, or to pursue any art or science,
      except to prevent serious risk in a populous area.



Article IV: Rights of the State

XIII. Anyone not making productive use of their lands shall have them seized by the Octarchy. A Vigesimi may seize any lands they deem needed for the preservation of the Octarchy with their Octarch’s consent without public or private reprisal. However no lands may be seized by Octarchal authority without due process of notice and fair compensation.

XIV. Any lands deemed by the Vigesimi to be required for governmental use must be expected to produce a tangible benefit to the local populace. In this manner a wide range of possibilities are expressed: a Vigesimi may decide a park is needed in a location and grant that to the people without concern for anyone displaced by such decisions.  Acquisition of such land is subject to Articles III and XIII.

XV. Mines and other resources may not be seized by Octarchal authority without prior warning or consent of prospectors who are currently working the mine.
 
XVI. All attempts of evading the payment of taxes will be dealt with harshly.

XVII. All citizens, unless exempted by the octarch as specified in section VII (A)  are part of the militia, and may be called on
      in time of emergency. However, service in the regular guards force shall be voluntary and guards shall be fairly paid.

All other rights and responsibilities listed in the existing octarchal decree of y 425.


Section Three:
Relationships among the levels and authority of jurisdictions
(extradition, authority of
marriages across jurisdictions, trade issues)
Operation and rules governing the Winch.

Section Four:
Means of enactment and amendment.
Following a vote of the existing Ochtachs and subject to a three fourths approval, the constitution will be sent to the vigesimi for a vote. Following an approval of three fourths of the vigesimi, the document will be subject to an election of the citizens of Yliakum. Should three fourths of the citizens voting approve this document will become law, effective 30 days from the time of the vote.
Amendments to this approved constitution may be made in the future following the same electoral process as the original implementation.

[Eardstapa]

  we can see plenty of RP possibilities here and hope to create a general situation/atmosphere that players can run with. as we start fomenting raising democratic awareness in game, we hope that guilds and individuals will be inspired and feel very welcome to align and express your character's views in words and/or actions - politics is a deep and dirty business, after all .

at the moment this is a feeler thread - it would be great to have some idea of support or interest? for those new to the game, copies of the original Octarchal Decree may be found in the library and Guildlaw opposite the tavern or oocly at http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=332879&TabID=3003799&Article=35611#Library courtesy of the Bloodstone Brethren.

Ideas and comments? please post in this thread or PM Cirerey, Herihi, Rodef, Eardstapa, Jawir

[Cairn]

Oh good, political aspirations! Yliakum needs more of these.

As always, it would need re-inforcement, however - similiar to the indoctrination of documents such as the Octarchal decree. Thusly, I am impressed with your thoroughness; allowing the admins to control indirectly woud definitely allow for a finer degree of political RP, and, should it go wrong, an easy way to step in and end any foolishness. Xillix I believe at one point RPed an Octarch, and that was hugely successful, so I don't see why such a well laid foundation could not lead to similiar success.

[Jawir]

This is an awesome occasion to RP! 
If you want express yourself as an individual and not as a number, support the constitution! 

[Cirerey]

Thanks. I'm really looking forward to extended meetings, rallies, and protests. Followed by IC pushback from the entrenched order if all goes well. Oh, I've already received some corrections to the document, they are being incorporated.

[Jawir]

It seems I'm receiving the firsts shy feedbacks, let see how it will develop! 

[Cirerey]

Based on feedback we have received we will begin in-game agitation shortly. Look for handbills announcing public meetings soon! 

[Eardstapa]

A gentle breeze tugs at the handbills that have been appearing overnight on public buildings. Indoors at strategic places, citizens from all walks of life - workers, scholars, artists, tavern-goers, travellers - hear the call:

People of Yliakum, for too long our leaders have not heard our voices. Soon we will raise them together until they cannot ignore us! And we will make a change to make the powerful accountable, to make us all true citizens of this land. Be ready, for we will rise as a brotherhood to demand our rights, or we will fall as slaves to the mighty once again.
There will be news soon.

Soon ... and on the breeze floats a rumour of assemblies ... Amdeneir, some say ... Amdeneir tavern ... soon. [Sat 5 May, Tue 8 May 1300 GMT onwards - Sat 5 May to hear all views and complaints, Tues 8 May to decide on solutions]

[Eardstapa]

[Thanks to everyone who contributed to a very lively inaugural discussion, we hope you enjoyed it too! The logs are too long to post in full, but please feel free to PM Jawir or Eardstapa if you'd like to read them. Below is a summary of the highlights. Names have been deliberately omitted to protect the innocent, but we know who you are and will be in touch Thanks and stay tuned for more opportunities to get involved. ]

Amdeneir, so the rumours said, and so
to Amdeneir tavern they headed, drawn
by the call to Arise!
                  Fearing trouble,
a compact Blikau, armed with his bow, nocked
an arrow and watched from high.
                           While within,
a Kore and a Demorian woman scribed
the Octarchy's failings as people spoke.
But a proud Ynnwn nobleman would have
none of it. "Do you think you can subvert
the order and face no consequences?
Subverting the order leads to jail!" Straight
the Kore rejoined, "If not free to express
our opinion then we are already
in jail!"
            Hear, hear. The Blikau from his watch
stepped in to listen. A Stonehammer spoke
his complaint of the Ojavedan streets,
"where rogues walk openly without need of
hiding themselves. Does the safety of our
coin-purses not matter to the Octarch?"

Hear, hear! Guards stand idle and officials
collect taxes — and for what? "The cities
are filthy, rats roam their streets, why cannot
the taxes get rid of plague-covered rats?"
A Klyros made his point, to nods all round.
"Elections I think are a step in the
right direction."
                  HEAR, HEAR! Yet the Ynnwn
scoffed, "If you spend most of your time working
in a forge, how do you think you can know
and then choose the right person to lead you?"
Uproar! The nerve! An Ynnwn woman spoke,
"Everyone, no matter their position,
can think and reason when given half the
chance.''
            Hear, hear! But still, said the nobleman,
only we nobles are suited to lead!
The notion! Smart the Blikau returned, "Think
yourself the head? I see only a mouth!"

And so raged the debate as the light of
Crystal waned, and an Ylian late coming
observed in the system many chances
"for abuse from the officials without
option for the populace to respond."

Hear, hear. And now the people have spoken,
warnings, threats all heard. A disowning of
both sides, a walking out. But pledges of
support too, as the group started to drift
from Amdeneir by growing Crystal light.

In public spaces and borne by the breeze
the next word awaits ... and soon. Citizen,
tell me, will you heed the call to Arise?

[Cairn]

Keep agitating! Send your runners to the far corners. Ensure that every player knows about this ICly, one of the greatest strengths for you will be in common knowledge, methinks.

[Jawir]

Congratulations Eardstapa, your storytelling is of a shining clarity! 

[karnath]

[ Hello to everyone o/ Kea hugs the thread. So I'm just making up this
from me dizzy mind. ]

Whoever  knows what  happened. They  just sat  there and  had peaceful
discussion abbot throwing octarchs from their chairs and placing civil
government when that  old dermorian called Valitar opened  one of book
of suns. Next they remember is  the crystal flame touching and burning
their flesh, taking them into the death realm.

...

Person in hooded robe smiles wide as he sees her in the temple. "Hello
green one".

Kealaee shudders as she hears familiar voice. She was not expecting to
hear him or one of them here,  in Laanx temple. She simply nods at him
scared. She thought they forgot about her... Silly fish.

"I need you to deliver this.. Book."

Kea  remembers her  last  delivery  and shivers,  but  nods, ask  with
trembling voice "To whom?.. Please don't hurt us..."

Old dermorian grins "To me... Later, in Amdeneir..."

...

I  see they  have chance...  Not  tolerable. They  might succeed.  Not
tolerable either.  We made Octarchy  institute weak. They  could bring
strength  to guards  back and  disrupt  our operations.  I shall  warn
them.  Shall send  them all  into the  death realm...   If they  won't
understand a message...

...

Karnath kicks another leaflet he found  in deep corner of howling well
with thought he should burn the writer "Bleh!".

[Cirerey]

(08:14:58) Jezzi says: Hello Sis
(08:15:01) Phenha says: Getting a higher view. Keep an ear out, would you?
(08:15:08) Timil says: Sure thing.
(08:15:30) Lace turb his head bit toward jezzi as she aproaches behind him smiling her "hi jezzi "
(08:15:38) Eardstapa says: Jezzi, sister, greetings!
(08:15:40) Jezzi says: Hi Lacie!
(08:16:00) Jezzi ties a yellow kerchief over the lower half of her face
(08:16:03) Eardstapa says: Hast thou met our party of citizens?
(08:16:13) Jezzi says: Nope!
(08:16:17) Kealaee grabs Jezzi
(08:16:30) Jezzi hug Kealaee
(08:17:04) Eardstapa says: The Ynnwn Melkior, and this travelling performer here is called Lace, and oh, I see thou knowst the nolthrir lady!
(08:17:05) Kealaee giggles sonorous "Hello competitioner!"
(08:17:45) Kealaee says: "Um! I'm Kealaee" performs deep bow "Kealaee Leceni"
(08:17:49) Jezzi says: Nice to meet you Melkie!
(08:18:10) Eardstapa steps back to introduce the elderly Dermorian. "And Valitar."
(08:18:11) Melkior nods to Jezzi "Lord Melkior is pleased to meet you"
(08:18:11) Jezzi says: Kea is my competitor. She has a junk shop too!
(08:18:29) Jezzi says: Hi mr. Valitar
(08:18:35) Lace smiles kealee and bows her elegantly "nice to meet you kea i am lace "
(08:18:37) Eardstapa smiles, "Ah, wonderful, an entrepreneur."
(08:19:25) Valitar looks at Jezzi
(08:19:27) >Timil Deeps takes a seat.
(08:19:27) Lace bows valitar
(08:19:29) Valitar says: Have we met?..
(08:20:03) Valitar says: Hm. Forgive old ears. I was introduced.
(08:20:06) Jezzi says: We just did!
(08:20:25) Lace narrows his eyes a bit as phenha suddenly aproaches behind him but relaxes when he notices that its him
(08:21:49) >Timil Deeps stands up.
(08:21:56) >Timil Deeps takes a seat.
(08:22:05) >Jezzi Bezezel waves at Timil Deeps
(08:22:16) >Timil Deeps waves at Jezzi Bezezel
(08:22:35) >Timil Deeps waves at Eardstapa Cempa
(08:23:26) Jezzi says: Does anyone else want to get out of the rain?
(08:23:40) Lace young ylians calm look at eyes softens a bit as kealaee moves around then calm look returns his eyes
(08:23:54) Melkior looks at Kealaee jumping up and down almost annoyed, he turns to Jezzi "Me let's get into the tavern"
(08:24:05) Eardstapa nods, laughing, the water running down her face. "Let us adjourn indoors to comfortable seats, come."
08:24:19) >Timil Deeps stands up.
(08:24:34) Lace fixes right side of his hair a bit and walks in calmly
(08:24:45) >Jezzi Bezezel takes a seat.
(08:24:46) Melkior says: As usual ladies seats first
(08:25:06) Phenha stands once again with his arrow half drawn, watching the entryway.
(08:25:22) Jezzi says: Thank you Melkior
(08:25:51) Lace leans his back against pillar relaxed and cautious at sametime
(08:26:08) Melkior nods to Jezzi "you're welcome"
(08:26:25) Eardstapa mocks Melkior with her smile and chooses to see everyone else seated first.
(08:27:00) Kealaee rolls her eyes "I'm not that old!" nods to Valitar "You're old one!" giggles "May be mister needs to take a seat?.."
(08:27:11) Jezzi says: Would anyone like some delicious diaboli food?
(08:27:18) Timil watches the gathering, his curiosity piqued.
(08:27:25) >Jezzi Bezezel dropped a book.
(08:27:32) Kealaee says: "I want to live for a while, Jezzi!"
(08:27:55) Jezzi sticks out her tongue at Kealaee
(08:28:12) Lace smiles a bit at kealaees words and winks her eye "jezzi does do a delicious food usually tought and drinks are realy tasty "
(08:28:16) >Jezzi Bezezel dropped a book.
(08:29:13) >Timil Deeps takes a seat.
(08:29:37) Valitar nods to Kealaee : a young one with some respect to the old. you must be a lady.
(08:29:47) >Valitar Irdsvil takes a seat.
(08:29:54) Jezzi lifts the scarf covering her face to eat a bite of marfusang tongue carpaccio.
(08:30:13) >Valitar Irdsvil stands up.
(08:30:16) >Valitar Irdsvil takes a seat.
(08:30:41) Jezzi says: Kealaee is a nice girl. Her only fault is that she isn't single so you guys are all out of luck! <giggles>
(08:31:13) >Jezzi Bezezel dropped a book.
(08:31:23) >Jezzi Bezezel dropped a book.
(08:31:27) Lace smiles "i kind of guessed that charmflower like kea wouldnt be single "
(08:31:55) Eardstapa grins and clears her throat. "Well, thank thee one and all for coming." She takes out a copy of the ARISE! leaflet. On the back has been scribbled a long list. "Some days ago thy fellow ciizens met to list their grievances against the Octarchy. All except, ahem, Melkior, that is."
(08:32:38) Jezzi stops eating, flips her scarf back over her mouth and puts the "food" away.
(08:32:47) >Jezzi Bezezel picked up a book
(08:33:35) Jezzi says: I missed the meeting can I add something now?
(08:33:38) Melkior nods to Eardstapa "And I am here today to express my concerns about your course of action!"
(08:34:23) Timil says: "And I was not at that meeting either," Timil mentions quietly.
(08:34:30) Jezzi says: But of course there must be one to curse our course <giggles>
(08:34:41) Eardstapa holds a hand up to stop Melkior. "Perhaps for the benefit of all let me sumarise the concerns expressed, and then thou Jezzi may have thy say and thou Melkior may restate thy case?
(08:34:46) Kealaee whispers to Valitar "Sir I feel like I know youre interested in junk books. Could you say anything about it?.." passes book to him carefully, listening to conversation
(08:36:13) Jezzi nods
(08:36:14) Melkior crosses his arms visibly offended by Eardstapa actions to stop his talk but doesn't speak and listens
(08:36:34) Lace smiles a bit "i wasnt last meeting either ..but i have concern about promotion of trade and honoring acts ."
(08:39:26) >Jezzi Bezezel picked up a Red Liquor Mug
(08:40:10) Lace looks Melkior " i dont mean my words to guilt octachy or offend it ..some individuals are fault at my concerns "
(08:40:25) Timil shifts his weight uncomfortably.
(08:40:26) Valitar nods to Kea and holds the book not opening it. listens to people. he was away from the dome for a long and requires to catch up with changes in politics
(08:40:55) Phenha moves restlessly, finally jumping down to the lower level.
(08:41:03) Jezzi fidgets, adjusting the yellow scarf over her face.
(08:41:05) Eardstapa reads from her list. "Crime and security - it hath been pointed out that the Octarchy and guards cannot control the rogue population in Ojaveda."
(08:41:49) Timil nods in agreement.
(08:42:05) Jezzi nods "as a pretty girl I can tell you having dangerous rogues in your way isn't nice."
(08:42:25) Jezzi says: It's scary!
(08:43:33) Eardstapa grins at Jezzi. "Indeed. And that the Vigesimi and other officials do not put taxes to good use for cleaning up the city. Rat infestations persist, spreading plague. Also that the sewers be the habitation of lowlife criminals that surface to endanger the city."
(08:44:48) Jezzi says: They need to do a better job!
(08:44:52) Lace nods Eardstapa's words "there are also assassin guilds which can be hired to do contracts unfortunately "
(08:45:37) Melkior keeps his arm crossed and rolls his eyes
(08:45:46) Jezzi nods enthusiastically
(08:46:16) Jezzi says: " pretty girls shouldn't have to rely on handsome men like Melkior here taking pity on us to keep us safe!"
(08:46:43) Eardstapa shoots a look at Melkior. "Well that is exactly right, the Octarchy sleepeth while citizens suffer. And so another fellow citizen moveth for elections!" She jabs at the next point on her leaflet.
(08:49:23) Stellan stands silently across from the barkeeper, his hood and cloak concealing his person as if he didn't think his mustache was a dead giveaway.
08:53:02) Phenha grumbles, impatient.
08:53:40) Stellan saunters toward the group, drink in hand.
(08:54:30) >Jezzi Bezezel greets Stellan Aristo.
(08:54:33) Lace turn his head bit towards stellan as he approaches little half smile at his face
(08:55:16) >Timil Deeps stands up.
(08:55:23) Jezzi says: So what was this thing you said about elections sister?
(08:56:01) Eardstapa stares at the figure. "Sir, welcome. Carest thou to introduce thyself and make plain thy views of the government? We are none of us concealing identities here."
(08:56:28) Lace turns his attention to jezzi
(08:59:25) Stellan looks around at everyone and winks at Earstapa. Then his gaze wanders as usual to the other women - Kealeaa and Jezzi.
(08:59:27) Valitar nods to Stellan in greeting still keeping book close hoping young nolthrir there is patient enough
(09:00:02) Lace looks stellan calm eyes and nods him
(09:00:03) Jezzi eyes Stellan, assessing.
((09:00:52) Eardstapa says incredulously, "Stellan??"
(09:01:40) Eardstapa lets out a small burst of laughter and continues, "aye, elections, and all approved of the idea, save one."
(09:02:08) Jezzi says: What's an election?
(09:02:10) Phenha says: I didn't either way, so make it two.
(09:02:13) Kealaee notices Stallan glancing at her, turns dark green ( nolthriri blush ) and hides from his sight since she is engaged and should resist such charming stare.
(09:02:45) Timil leans against the bannister, overlooking the group, and tilts his head at the word 'election'.
(09:04:33) Lace looks toughtful"hmm election ,,, not sure but it might be something relevant to inner or outer circle choosing in octachy circles.."
(09:04:35) Stellan says: How did you know it was me?" He laughs, throwing his hood back. "Yes, Stellan Aristo. Add that to your ledgers, and I represent Ordo Phalanster in coming to listen to the proceedings.
05:37) >Jezzi Bezezel stands up.
(09:07:32) Timil proceeds downstairs. "I guess you can count me as representing the Adani Order."
(09:08:14) Valitar says: My order gone away in ages. I represent myself here.
9:09:02) Lace talks slowly "well you could count me as ambassador of shadow society so to speak i dont hold any position amongs them tought or never met anyone there personaly "
09:09:44) Phenha's helmet betrays no facial expressions.
(09:09:48) Eardstapa explains, still tickled by Stellan's ego, "It was suggested the people be given the right to decide whether an Octarch or Vigesimi is suitable to govern. This way, should they not live up to their promises, the people have the right to remove them from power. Jezzi, currently we none of us have that right." She looks pleased at the mention of guilds represented. "Aye, we should be grateful to have thy guilds' input, Adani and Ordo Phalanster."
9:12:42) Lace looks eardstapa "one of the other levels 2 vigesimis were removed at their positions since there was suspect of individual corruption sadly "
(09:13:35) Jezzi says: Right now the only way is... <absentmindedly touches a dagger hilt>
9:14:09) >Jezzi Bezezel picked up a book
(09:14:13) >Jezzi Bezezel picked up a book
(09:14:16) >Jezzi Bezezel picked up a book
(09:14:21) Eardstapa says: 'Tis true, Lace, but it was pointed out that such harsh methods might not be necessary were the process of choosing more rigorous in the first place."
(09:15:06) >Jezzi Bezezel takes a seat.
(09:15:14) >Jezzi Bezezel dropped a Red Liquor Mug.
(09:15:17) Lace nods
(09:17:07) Jezzi says: So these elicktions are a way to remove a vigesimi without killing him? Or something like that?
(09:17:29) Eardstapa reads again, "There was a call for greater safety so citizens could have the right not to bear arms if they so wished.
(09:18:35) Stellan looks at Jezzi and licks his lips. "Something like that, mm. A better process of choosing than killing."
(09:19:43) Lace smiles halfsidely a bit atellans and jezzis words
(09:19:53) Jezzi nods still looks confused
(09:20:02) Melkior says: A greater need of safety is the only argument I would support, but my solution goes in the opposite way suggested by you Eardstapa, the Vigesimi should rule with an iron fist!"
(09:21:16) Jezzi says: The Vigesimi should enforce the law. They don't even do that now.
(09:21:25) Eardstapa shushes Melkior, flapping the leaflet in his face. "Like I should rule thee? Listen first, 'twas also suggested the goverment might not seize property without just cause and compensation."
(09:21:59) Lace this time young ylian smiles halsidely and coldly " in some cases the vigesimi has done that they used round ways to achieve their goals "
(09:23:20) Stellan contemplates with some enjoyment the prospect of being ruled by Earstapa's iron fist.
09:24:14) Phenha's helmeted exterior betrays no emotion.
(09:27:12) Eardstapa says: And, finally, 'twas said the populace requireth a system of feedback to the government, a way of expressing opinion, apart from elections, even.
(09:27:50) Eardstapa looks around at the group. "Jezzi? Had thou a point or two to add? And thou, Timil?"
09:28:09) Jezzi nods "They don't listen. I'm wearing this scarf across my mouth because I might as well be gagged.
(09:28:59) Jezzi says: My point is a simple one. The guards need to be trained. Every time I walk through Hydlaa a guard yells at me to keep my weapons sheathed.
(09:29:11) Stellan nods, and moves his cravat further up so it covers his mouth. "How do I look?"
(09:29:18) Jezzi says: I carry only flowers in my hands in Hydlaa
(09:30:14) Jezzi says: Guards who can't stop crime and can't tell the difference between a snowbud and a claymore need training.
(09:30:30) Jezzi says: That's all for me!
(09:30:53) Timil shakes his head. "Not at the moment."
(09:30:56) Jezzi nods at Stellan "It's a new diaboli fashion trend"
09:32:18) Lace says: well all kind of covered from my part
(09:32:26) Eardstapa nods, waving aside Stellan's ninja appearance. "Yes, t'was recorded, about the incompetency of the guards..."
(09:32:56) Eardstapa says: Now, Melkior? I release thy gag...
09:34:45) Melkior smirks at Eardstapa "I think in your new regime I should also thanks you, right?... I just want to state a couple of things..."
(09:35:33) Jezzi puts her high heeled boots up on the table, leaning back to get a better view of Melkior behind her.
(09:35:59) Lace turn his head to Melkior
(09:36:48) Melkior says: First of all I want to say to all of you that I do not support any kind of constitution, and I can speak for myself, my family and many of the wise noblemen of my city in the fourth level, second..."
(09:37:01) Stellan strokes his mustache, trying to pay attention to the serious talk over and above thoughts of gags and killing.
(09:37:58) Lace listens Melkior carefully
(09:38:09) Jezzi takes out a crust of bread and puts some of her famous pickles on it.
(09:38:37) Jezzi eats
(09:38:53) Valitar bored of the discussion, decides it is time to praise his lord. He holds book he has ordered from treasure hunter and got delivered by Kealaee. Strong government surely makes him sick since current situation with octarchy allows him and his friends to operate almost unpunished, spreading plagues and curses. He makes deep breathe ready to die, and opens the book dropping it at the table. Flame of crystal white color releases from it and floats above the table looking for targets. At first it notices Valitar and spreads palpus towards him , sets him on slow fire. He writhes, but is ready to take the pain and simply fades out into the death realm. The flame reaches everyone in the davern with palpuses...
(09:39:12) Melkior says: Many of the complains you are doing, citizens are serious and needs attentions and care by our rulers the Vigesimi, but we don't need a constitution for that! We can simply let them know about such complains and if you want I can bring them up to the Vigesimi
(09:40:28) Jezzi gasps with surprise as she is attacked by the crystal flames.
(09:40:36) Phenha notices the elf open the book and gasps, the fire arcing towards him next.
(09:40:40) Phenha says: $(*)&@£$()%^!
(09:40:42) Stellan yells as his long gray hair catches alight, and runs for the exit.
(09:40:55) Melkior eyes stares at Valitar fearfully he raise his arms to cover his face while he' blown up by the explosion...
(09:41:05) Lace shadowaura emits around him intensively and strongly as flame reaches him "unn,,, from shadows i born and shadows i return " slowly burning falls to death realm
(09:41:17) >Lace Shadowone has died!
(09:41:23) >Melkior Gerthas has died!
(09:41:26) Phenha falls to his knees the fire eating at his skin, the pain far worse than any he has experienced before
(09:41:28) >Phenha Phayethor has died!
(09:41:29) Kealaee is chosen by another tentacle. She screams as fire slowly turns her into ashes. She fades into the death realm almost instantly, dying mostly of the shock .
(09:41:35) >Kealaee Leceni has died!
(09:41:37) Jezzi is caught with her boots on the table, she cant really move fast and has no chance "Damn!"
(09:41:52) Timil yelps as the flames reach him, turning his chainmail white hot and burning him to death!
(09:42:18) Phenha draws his arrows and points it at the group.
9:43:23) >Kealaee Leceni takes a seat.
(09:43:28) Melkior shouts: "You fools! Have you seen where all this speaking of riots led us all!!"
(09:43:33) Kealaee says: "Where... WHERE AM I"
(09:43:39) Jezzi says: What happened? Who did this?
(09:43:54) Phenha says: The book of Blue steel... Karnath was right about it being worse...
09:44:10) Jezzi says: Someone will pay a price for this!
(09:44:11) Melkior shouts: "I warned you all! but you won't listen! Fools!"
(09:44:28) Lace looks around as cursed wound which had been patched with cloth straps re opens and bleeds trought them in his left shouder "death realm ... "
(09:44:46) Kealaee looks at people and starts to weep
(09:44:48) Jezzi says: Melkior. it's a small room. Please don't shout.
(09:44:51) Kealaee says: "I.. Am I..."
(09:44:59) Phenha says: Dead.
(09:45:05) >Jezzi Bezezel takes a seat by Kealaee Leceni.
(09:45:06) Melkior says: I should not shout!
(09:45:17) Melkior says: You doomed us all!
(09:45:25) Jezzi says: It's fine sweetie. I know the way back.
(09:45:27) Phenha points his helmeted face at Kealaee for a long moment, then sprints off in search of opened portals
09:45:37) Melkior says: This is the realm of the dead!
(09:46:11) Kealaee shakes silently weeping
(09:46:42) Jezzi says: It's fine Kea. There are ways back. Trust me.
(09:46:58) Jezzi puts her arm around Kealaee's shoulders
(09:47:07) Stellan looks at Melkior. "You a tourist or what?"
(09:47:32) Lace looks calm eyes around "i think we find a way out here somehow .. i don't sense any strong dark energies around us "
(09:47:42) Timil looks around, recognizing the place. "Well.... that was painful..... and unexpected," he says wryly.
09:48:06) Melkior says: Tourist?! Tourist! We are DEAD can't you see or what!?
(09:48:15) Jezzi says: Who did it? We need to find out, I don't like being burned to death.
(09:48:40) Stellan says calmly, "I noticed. It's you who's acting as if this place is new to you, Melkior."
(09:48:44) Jezzi says: Maybe we should go up to the citadel and continue our meeting there?
(09:48:50) Lace hold his left shoulder as young ylian feels dark energy pulse running trough his left arm
(09:49:07) Kealaee sniffs "Why... What was... "
(09:49:26) Kealaee says: "Me again... Why they choose me..."
(09:50:08) Melkior says: Yes it is new! isn't it for you?! than all the better for you!
(09:50:27) Jezzi says: It'll be fine Kealaee. We'll get back to the living world soon.
(09:50:35) Eardstapa holds her hands to her head. "What ... " She looks around. "Oh, did they get us all?" Her tiny fists ball up in rage.
(09:50:53) Jezzi says: Who did it? Did anyone see?
(09:51:03) Lace nods jezzi" i think that would be good ... my wound start to react here ,,, and iam not much of scout here in my current condition "
09:51:16) Timil says: It was when that book was opened, I think...
(09:51:31) Jezzi says: Book?
(09:51:57) Eardstapa says: I thought Valitar was the first out the door. She scans the crowd to confirm it.
(09:51:59) Lace turn his head to timil holding his left shoulder listening
to get to here from work later but no promises
(09:52:13) Timil says: It happened so fast... but I recall seeing a book laying open on the table, flames erupting from it... just before I.... died.
09:52:49) >Valitar Irdsvil has left the group
(09:53:07) Stellan is moaning, realizing his hair has been scorched to the roots, leaving bald patches that he can feel. "Not again..."
(09:53:35) Jezzi says: Valitar. I'll shave his intestines when I see him next.
(09:54:10) Melkior nods at Timil and Jezzi "I can confirm it it was him.. the fool.."
(09:54:41) Jezzi says: Let's go. We can continue our meeting at Kada-El. I won't let some idiot with a curse tell me what to do. Besides. Melkior hasn't had his say yet!
(09:54:49) Lace breats slow deep breaths" shadow council wont take this lightly .. everyones backround probaly will be checked "
(09:54:53) Jezzi says: Come on people!
(09:54:57) >Jezzi Bezezel stands up.
(09:55:06) >Kealaee Leceni stands up.
(09:55:10) Lace slowly folows jezzi
09:56:28) Jezzi shouts: Come on people! There is nothing interesting in that hole!
again. He removes his helmet to take a swig of cider left on the table.
(09:58:10) Jezzi shouts: Come on people! What are you waiting for? We will be waiting for you up ahead!
(09:58:45) Kealaee holds Jezzi's arm
(10:00:01) >Jezzi Bezezel takes a seat.
(10:00:26) Stellan says: Hello there ladies, what a night.
(10:00:39) Jezzi says: I guess we will wait for everyone here. There is no shortcut around this point.
(10:01:01) Kealaee looks aroung obviously scared
(10:01:34) Lace says: dont worry kae we will find way out here *smiles calmingly *
10:02:31) Jezzi says: The portal is usually in this one place. I've been down here many times before. Studying dark way you have to.
(10:02:57) Jezzi says: It'll be fine.
(10:03:56) Jezzi says: Where is everyone? It isn't even far to get here and there is only one path!
(10:04:11) Melkior says: No it will not! As it wasn't since that fool constitution idea was conceived.
(10:04:58) Stellan says: Earstapa has gone ahead, I think.
(10:05:10) Jezzi says: Perhaps we should too then.
(10:05:18) >Jezzi Bezezel stands up.
(10:05:19) Timil nods. "Stellan, Melkior and I were the last ones out."
(10:05:28) Stellan says: Melkior, you know, maybe you should consider making your home here. It has a nice aspect, and then you won't have to worry about any constitution.
(10:05:37) Lace nods "i dont think too much time here does good for me .. "
(10:05:51) Jezzi says: Down here people!
(10:06:20) Melkior shouts: I will seek Oriven as I was told HE will save me!

[Catlemur]

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