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Title: Etheric Art (New Art Mar 28 '14)
Post by: ether on April 27, 2011, 07:07:35 am
I drew Kisoji.  8D

Kisoji
http://tinyurl.com/kisoji-2

Marsuveus
Proof of Concept (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/MersuveusPose_PoC_1.jpg)
Progress 2 (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/MersuveusPose_PoC_2.jpg)
Progress 3 (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/MersuveusPose_PoC_3.jpg)
Progress 4 (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/MarsuveusPose_PoC_4.jpg)
Progress 5 (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/MarsuveusPose_PoC_5.jpg)

Morwen
Proof of Concept (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/Morwen_PoC_1.jpg)
Progress 2 (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/Morwen_PoC_2.jpg)

Qile
Reclined (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/Reclined.jpg)
What a View (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/168/a/e/what_a_view_by_draconicsoul-d53ta4b.jpg)

Miscellaneous stuff (Just to prove I actually do finish things sometimes >_>)
Prelude (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/Prelude.jpg)
Chapter 1 Cover (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/Chapter_01_Cover.jpg)
dancedance (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/dance_dance_by_draconicsoul-d36xmd0.jpg)
Journey (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/Journey_DesktopBG.jpg)
Chapter 2 Cover (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/P044.jpg)

Newest
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/087/3/7/kisoji_by_draconicsoul-d7c16fi.jpg)

Update 1: Added Marsuveus progress shot, added a lemur to my to do list.
Update 2: Added some miscellaneous drawings.
Update 3: Added another Marsuveus progress shot, added Mishka's request to the list.
Update 4: Added updates for Marsuveus and Morwen.
Update 5: Added Qile's link and another miscellaneous piece.
Update 6: Added another Qile drawing and reformatted a bit.
Update 7: Added a drawing of Kisoji Valsha.
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: Chucki on April 27, 2011, 09:18:25 am
Interesting, what image editor do you use?

Perhaps you could do concept work for the team, your progress so far looks like you have a bit of knowledge in this stuff.
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: ether on April 27, 2011, 11:21:54 am
I use Adobe Photoshop CS3 extended for the artwork.  If the pose I'm shooting for isn't something my imagination alone can handle, I use DAZ3D Studio.
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: Avathius on April 27, 2011, 07:18:42 pm
Interesting, what image editor do you use?

Perhaps you could do concept work for the team, your progress so far looks like you have a bit of knowledge in this stuff.

The team still develops? Oh wait, I promised I wouldn't complain anymore. Sorry.

Yeah Ether, nice art! I can see you have potential. Nice job with the shading on the Ynnwn cloak, it practically looks like a Blender model. I wish I had Photoshop, but for now I use Painter Essentials 4. I'll probably get Photoshop in a couple months, then the fun will really get started =D

I can't wait to see more, please keep it up.
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: ether on April 29, 2011, 10:28:24 am
Bump for art update and list update.

Maybe I'll consider applying for some 2D work once I finish all this stuff lol
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: Vassilli on April 30, 2011, 12:34:42 pm
The progress on this Marsuveus is very interesting, and it's looking very good so far. Also looking forward to seeing how Morwen turns out.  ;)
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: Sangwa on April 30, 2011, 05:13:17 pm
I like Morwen's PoC! I think you have a shield on the table there, and she actually forges Axes, but the concept is what I had in mind. Nice work with the finished ones, really good.
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: ether on May 01, 2011, 05:51:35 pm
Bump for another Marsuveus progress update.

Glad to hear you like the Proof.  =)  I'll make sure she's got an axe there instead of a squiggly shape when I get around to drawing her.  =P
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: Vassilli on May 01, 2011, 10:00:09 pm
Another great progress, keep it up  :)
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: ether on May 07, 2011, 08:22:37 pm
I was told Caraick decided to break from PS for the summer so I've decided to put his project on the backburner and pick up Morwen.

Got a Marsuveus some tattoos and some eyes, but I'll be doing a bit of fixing on them eyes.  O_o  Also got started on Morwen, posted up a progress of her even if all I have done so far is some basic groundwork for her fur.
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: Karlyle on May 07, 2011, 08:38:56 pm
Looking GOOD :thumbup:
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: Rigwyn on March 01, 2012, 06:48:14 pm
Quote
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z124/CATS1212/Journey_DesktopBG.jpg

This... is nice!
Most Nelves I've seen look sickly greenish.. I almost mistook it for a Belf initially.


Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: ether on May 06, 2012, 07:38:51 pm
Thanks, Rigwyn.  =)  A few of my friends said she had "grandma" boobs in that picture, but I had more fun doing all the armor details.

Also: bump for Qile's picture and another miscellaneous update.
Title: Re: Etheric Art
Post by: Caraick on May 06, 2012, 07:45:01 pm
Marsuveus looks awesome! :D
Title: Etheric Art (New Art Jun 16 '12)
Post by: ether on June 16, 2012, 12:50:56 pm
Thanks Caraick.  =)  I may...someday...eventually...finish that.  >_>

Also.  Bump for new drawing and update.
Title: Re: Etheric Art (New Art Jun 16 '12)
Post by: Cairn on June 16, 2012, 01:12:01 pm
Most excellent :D
we'll have to use this in our recruiting posters:

Deadly fenki with daggers, but still looks good - join our guild or die.
Title: Re: Etheric Art (New Art Mar 28 '14)
Post by: ether on March 28, 2014, 10:51:18 pm
New art added to first post: tinyurl.com/kisoji-2
Title: Re: Etheric Art (New Art Mar 28 '14)
Post by: Volki on March 28, 2014, 11:38:09 pm
Gross.
Title: Re: Etheric Art (New Art Mar 28 '14)
Post by: Donari Tyndale on March 31, 2014, 07:01:46 am
Uhm. Volki is right. Your drawings look like stuffed children's toys made in China. I think the most unsettling part you'll need to improve on is the anatomy, especially the facial features and the proportions of feet and hands to the rest of the body. I mean. Qile's feet look like hooves and Kisoji's do look like tentacles. Also, you seem to draw a face outline, then simply glue eyes/nose/mouth on it. You'll need shadows for them to appear natural.

But on a positive side. Your drawing of Kisoji is a huge improvement compared to the one of Qile. So by all means, keep improving.
Title: Re: Etheric Art (New Art Mar 28 '14)
Post by: ether on April 01, 2014, 06:29:53 pm
Uhm. Volki is right. Your drawings look like stuffed children's toys made in China. I think the most unsettling part you'll need to improve on is the anatomy, especially the facial features and the proportions of feet and hands to the rest of the body. I mean. Qile's feet look like hooves and Kisoji's do look like tentacles. Also, you seem to draw a face outline, then simply glue eyes/nose/mouth on it. You'll need shadows for them to appear natural.

But on a positive side. Your drawing of Kisoji is a huge improvement compared to the one of Qile. So by all means, keep improving.

For Qile's feet looking like hooves: yeah...yeah...lol  I originally intended that drawing to have much more clothing and when I got around to putting it on I just got lazy.  Potentially unnecessary details (like...toes) were excluded in anticipation of them being covered up.

For hand/foot:body, that's actually the first someone's mentioned that to me.  Looking over it, though, I can see what you mean - and on a lot of my other work in the recent past as well - they seem kinda small.  I suppose this comes from my utter hatred of drawing both and something I'll need to pay more attention to in the future lol

For gluing features onto faces, that's almost exactly what I do! XD  And I've recognized in the last few months that it generally doesn't work out too well and have been trying different methods to get it to look more natural and have the lips and eyes especially to look like a smoothly integrated part of the face.  Still working on that.  Recent examples of my attempts with that (and with really expressing variations in facial features) can be seen here (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/066/d/3/beyjn_again_by_draconicsoul-d79bson.jpg) and here (beware: some nudity) (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/043/f/a/lazy_wings_by_draconicsoul-d768nhk.jpg).  My current method is a habit I got into when I applied the idea to this drawing I did three years ago (again, some nudity) (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/235/6/0/marked_by_draconicsoul-d47n7a0.jpg) when I was testing out different methods of getting it smooth, found one that worked out really well, and then tried to apply the same method with varying levels of success elsewhere.
I think a lot of my problem with defining the features comes with the method of shading I use (a base layer with anywhere from 2-8 layers of shading in varying blending modes and sometimes 1 or 2 layers for texture).  Usually this works out very well for creating a subtle, multi-angled lighting situation, but not so much when I need more dramatic shadows.  This is something I don't really see as being much of an issue at the moment, as most of my drawings are just one-shot portraits or pin-ups rather than full scenes.

I can really see how keeping all of the different parts of a drawing as separate objects and layers makes some parts of the drawings weird and makes seamless integration impossible, or difficult.  Improving my artwork at this point is I think a matter of 3 things:
-Finding a method of shading in digital media that is both easily workable and fluid in appearance.
-Finding a method that fits my style that will improve the overall organic feel of the subject.
-Reducing laziness and attention to detail; "Eh, this is good enough," versus "This is the best I can do."
Title: Re: Etheric Art (New Art Mar 28 '14)
Post by: Bonifarzia on April 02, 2014, 07:52:54 am
I can really see how keeping all of the different parts of a drawing as separate objects and layers makes some parts of the drawings weird and makes seamless integration impossible, or difficult.
Yeah, that is probably the problem. To me it looks like you start with flat samples, like texture artwork for uv mapping, and then you try to arrange it somehow into traditional art, resulting in sort of a collage. Often artists go the opposite way, starting with an idea of the pose, followed by some rough sketches, basic shading, while texture detail is added and refined much later. (Off topic: Amazing example (http://hgjart.deviantart.com/art/Creation-process-GIF-324425828) of detail refining by hgjart on DA.) But hey, the shading on your draconicsoul "marked" painting turned out pretty well :)
Title: Re: Etheric Art (New Art Mar 28 '14)
Post by: ether on April 02, 2014, 04:48:13 pm
Yeah, that is probably the problem. To me it looks like you start with flat samples, like texture artwork for uv mapping, and then you try to arrange it somehow into traditional art, resulting in sort of a collage. Often artists go the opposite way, starting with an idea of the pose, followed by some rough sketches, basic shading, while texture detail is added and refined much later. (Off topic: Amazing example (http://hgjart.deviantart.com/art/Creation-process-GIF-324425828) of detail refining by hgjart on DA.) But hey, the shading on your draconicsoul painting turned out pretty well :)

This (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/092/6/f/kisojiprocess_by_draconicsoul-d7cskoh.jpg) is a more accurate representation of how the process actually goes...  It's not literal screenshots of progress, but it at least displays the order in which the layers are built and applied.
Title: Re: Etheric Art (New Art Mar 28 '14)
Post by: Bonifarzia on April 03, 2014, 03:38:41 am
Thanks for sharing... I see how useless my comment was ;)
I am sure you will find ways to make the texturing more subtle and to deform the patterns to give them a better feel of depth/perspective. The shading/lighting looks good, it just needs more emphasis. At least that's the impressions of someone who really does not qualify for giving advice  :whistling:
(Oh, and above I should have given an example of PS related art (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=39367.msg450066#msg450066) instead.)