You might be an oldbie if you remember this thread starting.

I still remember the day Miss K handed the reigns of being the global mod for these forums over to me.  Hopping back here every few years and still seeing neko kyouran created stickies at the top of some of the forum sections really brings back all the memories.  Sad the day I had to give all that up and delete that account, but I didn't want it get hacked and letting someone have their way with mucking up these forums after all.  At least I still have this alt account to log in with.

I hope everyone old like me, as well as all you youngens are all doing well. 

I may return here in a few months with a special surprise hello from another old community member.  If can get her approval, I want to make it public here first.  It'll be only fitting, since this little old game was how we met in the first place, after all.

Take care Planeshifters.  Keep on, keeping on.

I will probably never finish this.  reading this again tonight brought back memories.  it deserves to have some type of closure, so here is the short short version:

nicken recites the past events that caused him to nearly lose his best friend and love.  something along the lines of how he was sent away on a mission and something happens to them that they go missing by the time he can return.  he then spends the rest of his life searching for them, eventually giving up and becoming the old wreck of a menki that goes to the tavern every night to sit and hope by chance that they may return some day.

ben and ren take in his tale and give him their condolences.  nicken thanks them for listening to his tale.  he then fills them in that the test they passed was loyalty to each other.  that ben fought for her and she fought for him; they were willing to sacrifice each other to save the other; they were truly in love.  finally, that he sees the younger versions of his friends in them, and how if he couldn't save them, he will save these two from going down the same paths as his friends did. 

he then tells them that being with them has given him courage again to go search the only place left to look for his long lost friends, that being the uncharted area beyond the great gates, which supposedly leads up to caverns that may lead out to a hypothesized surface world.

he tells them that his stuff is theirs for the taking, as he won't need it.  he shows them a hidden floor board, once removed which leads to a cellar area full of treasures and other trinkets collected over a lifetime of searching the world.  they are to use these items to make a good life for themselves, one where ben will not ever have to rely on 'plan b'.  (becoming an adventurer like nicken had)

they both thank nicken for everything and then the story jumps to the now older versions of the them, who were telling this story to their grand cubs.  they tell them this is how they were able to start their lives in this city, how over the years they looked back at this old menki's kindness every day and thanked him for everything he gave them.  the story then closes with them telling the cubs that they hoped he was able to eventually find what he was looking for.  hopefully nicken, satayne, and the beautiful Lady Z are together, somewhere, at last.

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" « on: May 30, 2008, 12:05:39 PM » "

hello everyone.  hope you are well.  just stopping by to do a little reminiscing and to grab a screenshot of my old menki character for something.  carry on.

--neko

so, i may be just going stupid in my old age, but i tried to be nice and make a new forum username under my old account ID (neko kyouran).  then i got to the "What is the color of the sun in Yliakum?:" fill in the blank.  .....

you're all just being mean.  the lore i remember from 2004 said that there wasn't a sun, it was a crystal.  and even then, every normal color i put in didn't work.

also, your forum software is old like i am, so bots now know how to get around captcha stuff anyways, so it leaves only those truly dedicated to the cause to try and figure out the right answers for all those new user account questions.

hope everyone's been well. 

your outfits are not dark enough.

Am I a troll now?

no, if you were, you'd have simply linked to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3oPJQ3yWR8 and been on your merry way.

Nope you can't turn that so easily, it's not a valid scientific reasoning because science (which is a method and nothing else) does not rely on others to prove your theory. You make a thesis and put your thesis under test, if the experiment turn as expected then go ahead and experiment more... but I save you sometime none has been able to prove this thesis or falsify it

counterpoint: the Riemann Hypothesis challenge.  prove it true or false, and you win the one million cash prize.

not a math nerd?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6c6uIyieoo

http://www.claymath.org/millenium-problems/riemann-hypothesis



also, i'm going to really blow your mind now: 

Science and religion are fundamentally different based on the one key concept - that scientific theories can be disproven.
 ....

Religion cannot be disproven.  There is no way to disprove God or gods. 

Using scientific theory, one could say, 'there is no god.  prove me otherwise'  and your point is turned 180.  it is more correct to say, "Religion cannot be disproven or proven.  There is no way to disprove or find proof of God or gods."

as far as science and religion always having to be separated:
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BKfkw1aOiE
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7VcLCwnpt4