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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Talad on October 17, 2011, 04:35:38 pm

Title: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Talad on October 17, 2011, 04:35:38 pm
Hi,
if you have a good screenshot taken from the latest PlaneShift release (0.5.x) please post it here. We may in need of good screenshots for press, magazine and web sites. If you want to post weird/funny screenshots please use another thread and not this one.
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: LigH on October 18, 2011, 01:31:47 am
http://psps.psde.de/image/tid/1
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Soloyos on October 18, 2011, 09:07:39 am
Well these were taken very recently, but does this collection mean it has to do with items/things added in the o.5 release?
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/shot291.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/shot292.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/shot293.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/shot306.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/shot309.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/shot313.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/Planeshift/shot159.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/Planeshift/shot121.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/Planeshift/shot110.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l513/Soloyos/Planeshift/shot93.jpg)
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Aramara Meibi on October 18, 2011, 11:15:36 am
those are nice soloyos. i especially like the amdenier ones. question: i just recently figured out how to snap a screenshot without gui showing up, how did you get those shots without your character in them?
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: LigH on October 18, 2011, 11:41:42 am
First Person Perspective -- press "M" or use the mouse wheel.

Or: Third Person perspective with edited camera options to zoom out far (instead of into the body).
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General suggestion: Write screenshots as PNGs first (/screenshot lossless nogui) and compress the images later. The JPEG compression by CrystalSpace is quite coarse by default, contains rather obvious DCT artefacts.
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Soloyos on October 18, 2011, 12:26:07 pm

those are nice soloyos. i especially like the amdenier ones. question: i just recently figured out how to snap a screenshot without gui showing up, how did you get those shots without your character in them?

Thanks! i really like the Amd ones too

Ahh didnt know that LigH thanks!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: LigH on October 18, 2011, 12:45:07 pm
I still like the "JPEG Optimizer 3.15", formerly from xat.com - but this domain is outdated now.

Its "adaptive quantization" algorithm (MagiCompress™) is quite useful, I never found any freeware with a similar feature. Saved in progressive mode, it creates nearly optimal JPEGs for the web.

A new approach is being developed as JPEGmini (http://www.jpegmini.com/).
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Dannae on October 18, 2011, 01:44:41 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FH2fVQbZKWc/Tp3GOhMXZMI/AAAAAAAAAwc/03diV319RDk/s800/Hydlaa-Plaza.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BDX-Z2rKeew/Tp3GNprApAI/AAAAAAAAAwc/idmGb_6ROa8/s800/Almada-%252526-Dannae.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vQ7PhNxBq9k/Tp3GNp1zGyI/AAAAAAAAAwc/8sQG_yHxZm0/s800/Amdeneir.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CqH1P6Jjz00/Tp3GNWe4bYI/AAAAAAAAAwc/TECFTmeTC3Y/s800/Amdeneir3.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YXPc3WWOOTw/Tp3GOHAIicI/AAAAAAAAAwc/5Qol-5uR1U4/s800/6.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FNALdcUgpQg/Tp3GOoVg4uI/AAAAAAAAAwc/94XmQo977oQ/s800/Screen-shot-2011-08-28-at-12.57.52-AM.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dbrjHnsLoEs/Tp3GO5p6kzI/AAAAAAAAAwc/TtHXmQ7RrUU/s800/Screen-shot-2011-08-27-at-10.09.40-PM.jpg)
Link to full size pics: https://picasaweb.google.com/dannaereinor/PlaneShift# (https://picasaweb.google.com/dannaereinor/PlaneShift#)

Note: Due to the discussions further in this thread about png/jpg, all my original screenshots are png except one, (5th one with the 3 chars.), and though I posted all as jpg, the png versions are still available if you pm me.
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Soloyos on October 18, 2011, 02:19:41 pm
Nice Images Dannae  :P
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Aramara Meibi on October 18, 2011, 02:58:25 pm
riiiiiiight.... 1st person  :P ... didn't consider it as I never use it, but I should I guess.
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Soloyos on October 18, 2011, 03:14:26 pm
I never use it either, only for screenshots  :D
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Chessire on October 18, 2011, 03:41:38 pm
I found a few presentable ones in my folder  :sorcerer:

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/Gnupy/shot70.jpg)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/Gnupy/shot66.jpg)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/Gnupy/shot104.jpg)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/Gnupy/shot80.jpg)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/Gnupy/shot81.jpg)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/Gnupy/shot117.jpg)
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: steuben on October 18, 2011, 04:19:12 pm
i'll get the series i have for the postcard project up shortly. as well i can provide the raw images that they came from if you want.
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: weltall on October 18, 2011, 11:07:04 pm
First Person Perspective -- press "M" or use the mouse wheel.

Or: Third Person perspective with edited camera options to zoom out far (instead of into the body).
__

General suggestion: Write screenshots as PNGs first (/screenshot lossless nogui) and compress the images later. The JPEG compression by CrystalSpace is quite coarse by default, contains rather obvious DCT artefacts.
general suggestion: don't use jpeg anymore it's an old format and lossy. These days we have connections fast enough for png.
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: LigH on October 19, 2011, 01:51:44 am
@ weltall:

1) inconsiderate generalization: would you bet on every person worldwide having a broadband connection?
2) unnecessary accuracy = low efficiency (*)

JPEG as such is still rather convenient, especially for images with limited detail sharpness and color saturation; it just requires a bit experience in optimizing size versus quality loss.

Screenshots made by PlaneShift in JPEG format have a quite low quality (I believe, default quality value is 75 of 100). So it is obviously and objectively recommendable to have PlaneShift save screenshots in lossless PNG first. But for presentation in the World Wide Web, a moderately compressed JPEG (quality 95 .. 90) is still a good compromise, preferably in "progressive encoding", and if available, even with "macroblock-adaptive quantization" (JPEGOpt / JPEGmini); and if you have saturated red or blue areas which start to look fuzzy, you may even try to disable "chroma subsampling" (in JPEGOpt: "Extra color").
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(*) May I remind you on the "voiceover" requirements? Which combination of consumer soundcard with 16-bit DAC and consumer electret microphone is at all able to record samples in 32 bit depth and 96 kHz spectrum?
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: weltall on October 19, 2011, 11:23:49 am
if you are presenting a game you want high quality screenshots you don't want artifacts all over the place, and png rarely get over what can be downloaded with edge/gprs. Plus ps just like most online games isn't playable with those connections decently. and i know what i say i had shitty connections barely able to handle 3kb/s-12kb/s with an high packet loss too sometimes (bless you vodafone the worse operator in italy) and ps was entirely unplayable: thing moving at random, text coming up 10 seconds after.... If you really have such slow connections at least 1/2 of today's internet is off limit to you. Just opening google takes 31kb minus pictures (i've saved the raw http transaction)... a png might go from 100kb to 1mb usually for 720p screens which are way bigger than what's presented here. Also I'd like to remind that decent slow connection providers have functionalities to downgrade image quality which can alleviate the situation.
(*) may i remind that the idea was setting a standard for the future and not one for the present? and my audio card can record up to 96khz/24bit well (hd audio is quite around too i'd say anyway and that's rated 24bit/96khz too)
(*) may I also remind about the sad state of the planeshift textures? most, if not all, are <= 256x256 and higher resolutions versions were never done. making it worse with jpeg is just what we need to scare people away more.
(*) may I also remind that press and magazines maybe want a bit more than jpeg webpage like quality for print? (ref: first post from talad)
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Chessire on October 19, 2011, 12:39:54 pm
Screenshots are saved automatically on jpg though. If someone knows how to set them to be saved on png i will try to upload something on png.
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Aiwendil on October 19, 2011, 12:57:37 pm
Write screenshots as PNGs first (/screenshot lossless nogui) and compress the images later
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: LigH on October 20, 2011, 01:14:11 am
And please try to only link the PNG images in this thread, as they will probably break the forum layout with their high resolution, as well as delay the finish of the site loading remarkably.

Linked thumbnails:
Code: [Select]
[url=http://my-webspace.com/big-image.png][img]http://my-webspace.com/small-image.jpg[/img][/url]
Or even better - just a gallery link.
Title: Re: Arcane Chrysalis Screenshot Collection
Post by: Catlemur on July 31, 2012, 01:38:29 pm
http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/Catlemur/
Those are from 0.5.4 or newer.