Weltall had an issue where he was at the meeting but couldn't set himself to visible so players couldn't see or hear him so I relayed his answers forpeople wondeirng why I'm posting and seemed to be running the meeting
(09:06:18) Sarva says: Weltal is here nhe just can't set himself to visible which means you can't see or hear him.
(09:06:33) Mordaan says: Spooky.
(09:06:55) Sarva says: I think I have to play the role of the Weltall avatar today
(09:07:04) Sasigher says: lol
(09:07:06) Weltall says: and speaking with a phone
(09:07:09) Heolion says: lol
(09:07:12) Sasigher says: enjoy sarva
(09:07:30) Sarva says: Guess I should go up on the stage then
(09:07:58) Avilay plays some horror music
(09:08:08) Heolion laughs
(09:08:16) Sasigher says: XD
(09:08:39) Avilay says: go go sasigher
(09:08:41) Sarva says: Ok let's se how this goes.
(09:08:59) >Erelenga Karal claps for Sarva Ghars.
(09:09:06) Kalelorence says: *MEOW*
(09:09:09) Sasigher says: don't tell me you have to retype what weltall says??
(09:09:10) Sarva says: Line up if you have a question, one question per person if you have a second question get back in line.
(09:09:13) >Chaloia Chaurog stands up.
(09:09:22) >Chaloia Chaurog takes a seat.
(09:09:27) Sarva says: Afraid I'll have to Sasigher
(09:09:35) Weltall says: as for news we are going to depploy experience on exploration
(09:09:35) Heolion says: ouch
(09:09:56) Sasigher says: luckily weltalls answers usually are short and precise
(09:09:58) Avilay says: no copy and pasting
(09:10:36) Sarva says: Weltal says as for news we are going to deploy experience on exploration.
(09:11:00) >Diggah stands up.
(09:11:06) Mordaan raises his eyebrows
(09:11:15) Avilay says: drat no weltall to tickle
(09:11:16) Aensor is confused.
(09:11:17) Mordaan says: Oh really?
(09:11:37) Sarva says: I wil need Weltall to explain that further.
(09:11:54) Diggah says: I have a quick question.
(09:12:06) Sarva says: Go ahead Diggah.
(09:12:13) Diggah says: Thankyou.
(09:12:17) Diggah says: When mobs are turned back on again. Some being aggressive on sight, and possibly in the future with Herd/Social Help AI, will we have new tools to deal with them? I am thinking about spells that can slow, snare or otherwise crowd control, as well as more commands for groups. Such as follo, focus, target of target panels etc.
(09:13:45) Sarva waits for the great Weltall to say something
(09:14:47) Avilay plays the drum rolls
(09:15:20) Sarva thinks Weltall has gone to sleep
(09:15:24) Weltall says: the combat system will be redone check pswiki for how it will be done
(09:15:46) Diggah grins "He's had a busy day"
(09:15:55) Sarva says: Weltal says the combat system will be redone check the pswiki for how it will be done
(09:16:12) Diggah says: Thankyou, will check later.
(09:16:27) >Diggah takes a seat.
(09:16:35) Sarva says: I think that is part of the Google summer of code if I'm not mistaken, changes to the combat system.
(09:16:54) Mordaan nods
(09:17:00) Sarva says: Next?
(09:17:04) Avilay says: yes
(09:17:06) Diggah says: It's what started me thinking about it.
(09:17:42) Sarva says: No other questions today?
(09:17:49) Kalelorence says: ok, i have one
(09:17:50) >Mordaan stands up.
(09:18:12) Mordaan says: I've got one, but I'm sure it's been asked almost to death.
(09:18:19) Kalelorence says: are they interested to a retextere and a rework of the mesh of building in hydla ?
(09:18:20) Sarva says: Mordaan go ahead remember if you have a question please get in line behind mordaan
(09:18:32) Mordaan says: Are they any ideas on how to address broken quest chains?
(09:18:43) Sarva says: If it has been asked to death then I will not have to wait for Weltal
(09:18:46) Mordaan says: Especially ones involving winch quests?
(09:19:04) Sarva says: you missed Dr Jack at the last meeting.
(09:19:26) Avilay says: thats for the settings devs, and none are here
(09:19:33) Sarva says: I believe he wanted someone to start a thread in the forum where the problems can be talked about in a single place.
(09:19:42) Avilay says: only have engine dev, weltal via sarva
(09:19:49) Mordaan says: Yeah, figured that would be more for him, but thought weltall might have some thoughts.
(09:20:03) Weltall says: yes its currently being done including meshes if you want to help check talad on irc
(09:20:18) Sarva says: As I said Dr. Jack talked about someone starting a thread in the forums.
(09:20:27) Mordaan says: Ok
(09:20:44) >Mordaan takes a seat by Small Table.
(09:20:58) Sarva says: Weltall says about meshes " Yes it is currently being done including meshes if you want to help check Talad in IRC"
(09:21:23) Kalelorence says: not me but bebanet
(09:21:48) Kalelorence says: i'll say to him
(09:21:58) Sarva says: I know Talad showed the GMs new house artwork for Hydlaa the other day.
(09:22:20) Kalelorence says: only things
(09:22:38) Sarva says: Yes Yoreneve go ahead.
(09:22:41) Yoreneve says: Would there be any interest in making available an api of some sort so that an external chat program could be used to chat to the gossip channel in game
(09:23:34) Weltall says: not sure about that yet maybe but its a lot of work
(09:24:05) Sarva says: Weltall says " Not sure about that yet, maybe but it is a lot of work."
(09:24:32) Yoreneve says: I've done such a thing using MySQL, apache tomcat and java
(09:24:46) Yoreneve says: I believe that PS uses MySQL
(09:25:03) Sarva says: You might want to think about joining the Dev team then I'm sure they could use the help.
(09:25:19) Yoreneve says: ok
(09:25:23) Yoreneve says: thank you
(09:25:33) Mordaan says: Sounds interesting, though.
(09:25:37) Sarva says: Next?
(09:26:22) Avilay says: boy, this is sure not the same having weltall here
(09:26:43) Weltall says: those tech are not really related to an api whi h shpuld be provided by the server
(09:26:44) Mordaan says: hah, yeah.
(09:27:24) Sarva says: Weltal says " Those tech are not really related to an api which should be provided by the server."
(09:28:09) Sarva looks around the room " Any more questions today?"
(09:29:07) >Chaloia Chaurog stands up.
(09:29:15) Chaloia says: It seems to me that it is getting more and more difficult for beginners to get started on quests. Are ther any plans to have the npcs drop hints about who to talk to.
(09:29:41) >Keella greets Daxa Tresshe.
(09:30:01) >Keella takes a seat.
(09:30:08) Sarva says: I believe that is a DrJack issue since he is the head of settings and they are the ones who write the quests.
(09:30:19) Chaloia says: Thank you
(09:30:22) Mordaan says: I can answer that to a certain extent.
(09:30:25) >Mordaan stands up.
(09:30:34) >Chaloia Chaurog takes a seat.
(09:30:36) Sarva says: As I mentioned to Mordaan earlier that would be something to mention in a forum thread devoted to quests.
(09:31:00) Mordaan says: I know he's been recruiting a lot lately so things are looking up.
(09:31:23) Mordaan says: Now it's just a matter of getting to all these things, making the changes, then getting them tested.
(09:31:35) Sarva says: katu is back with the settings team I believe..
(09:31:58) Erelenga heard rumours that there are new prospects too...
(09:31:58) Mordaan says: Yes, haven't seen him this weekend though. Maybe later in the week.
(09:32:06) Sarva says: So there should be some move movement on quest fixing and development hopefuly
(09:32:07) Mishka says: Thanks, pretty
(09:32:22) >Mordaan takes a seat.
(09:32:30) Weltall says: loot will be redone sooner or later
(09:32:46) Mishka waves frantically at Mordaan
(09:32:51) >Mordaan greets Mishka Briteblade.
(09:32:51) Sarva says: As always I'll put in the reminder that if you have talents that could be useful in developing the game please think about applying to join the team.
(09:33:12) >Aensor stands up.
(09:33:17) Sarva says: Weltall says loot will be redone sooner rather than later.
(09:33:30) Kalelorence says: it's more about free time
(09:33:39) Avilay says: well, that if talad wants the help that is offered, is a whole another ball game too
(09:33:52) >Irec waves.
(09:34:11) >Mishka Briteblade takes a seat.
(09:34:14) Sarva says: Any other questions?
(09:34:22) >Kalelorence Majelower stands up.
(09:34:39) Kalelorence says: can i ask another one ?
(09:34:43) Weltall says: sooner or lather no rathwr therw
(09:34:53) Aensor says: I have one now aswell.
(09:34:53) Sarva says: Go ahead
(09:35:27) Kalelorence says: just by curiosity, what about clothes ?
(09:35:56) Mishka says: I think Weltall said the art department is working on it, but slowly.
(09:36:03) Weltall says: future even long
(09:36:09) Kalelorence says: thank you
(09:36:30) >Kalelorence Majelower takes a seat by Small Potted Plant.
(09:36:35) Sarva says: As the people who are doing the art have the time there will be more clothing options in the future I believe. but we still have to get models for all the different races done so clothes will be a while before we get them in game.
(09:36:58) Kalelorence says: thank you
(09:36:59) Sarva says: As Weltall said further even along
(09:37:58) Sarva says: Next question?
(09:38:03) >Keella stands up.
(09:38:05) Aensor says: I hope it fits here: I looted alot of special weapons which apply magic buffs. There seems however no working way to find out what they do apart from watching the stat window. Could someone with access to those equip scripts compile some list with a general hint on what they do or if they actually do something? Or is there already one?
(09:38:44) Mishka says: Please, when you want to make a question, walk up to where Keella is standing now, next time. Thanks.
(09:38:49) Erelenga whispers: "Uuuh - spoilers..."
(09:39:16) Sarva waits for Weltall to whisper in her ear an answer to Aensor
(09:39:17) Keella gins at Erelenga
(09:40:14) Weltall says: i dont think it will be done but things could change
(09:40:20) Heolion says: maybe if divination could work..
(09:40:38) Sarva says: 'Weltall says he doesn't think it will be done but things could change.
(09:40:44) Mordaan says: One problem that might be fixed is making the changes to the stats window real time. Right now you have to close it and reopen to see the changes.
(09:41:17) Aensor says: Mordaan, there are effects that are not shown in the stats or anywhere.
(09:41:29) Mordaan says: That might help a bit.
(09:41:34) Mordaan says: Ah ok.
(09:41:46) Sarva says: Yes not all the weapon buffs relate to stats.
(09:42:08) Weltall says: from when they dont get updated
(09:42:14) Aensor says: A list of buffs that do nothing would be alot already *grins*
(09:42:41) Mishka says: Some are just that… names.
(09:42:53) Aensor says: You cant be sure, can you?
(09:42:54) Sarva says: weltall says From when they don't get updated.
(09:43:43) Mishka says: Also, there have been problems with some weapons, but that got fixed after a relog. I traded a friend a Laanx Mind weapon and he didn't get the buff until he relogged. And I can be sure because I loot them on a regular basis. Some named weapons are just named weapons, nothing else.
(09:43:48) Sarva says: Any more questions?
(09:43:52) Keella smiles "Any idea at what point is the guild related quest? "
(09:44:02) Aensor says: Maybe once you equip some weapon, a Kikiri dies (?)
(09:44:27) Mishka says: Yes, killed by a newbie more or less. Please, let the other people get their answers.
(09:44:30) >Kalelorence Majelower smiles at Keella
(09:44:47) >Heolion Krugher raises an arm and points towards Keella.
(09:44:49) Keella waits patiently
(09:45:03) Sarva says: I'm afraid that is a question for DrJack Keella who isn't hear.
(09:45:40) Keella says: I thought so but I hopped you heard something by now
(09:45:49) Sarva says: Feel free to poke him in IRC.
(09:45:51) Mishka says: He's on IRC sometimes, Keella. I think the best you could do is check if he's online (usually as drJack) and ask him yourself. I'm sure if he has a bit of time he'll answer gladly - of course if he can-
(09:45:54) Keella says: Thank you anyway
(09:45:55) >Kalelorence Majelower stands up.
(09:45:57) Weltall says: when it will be tested there is no meed to temind irrt
(09:46:33) Keella says: I know Mishka, just never seen him on tho
(09:46:47) >Keella takes a seat.
(09:46:49) Mishka says: The /who command is your friend :3
(09:46:55) Sarva says: Weltall says When it will be tested there is no need to remind him.
(09:47:04) Kalelorence says: i have another question
(09:47:16) Sarva says: So I guess it is ready for testing I guess form what Weltall said.
(09:47:32) Keella says: great, that is more than I wanted to know
(09:47:44) Sarva says: Go ahead Kalelorence
(09:47:54) Kalelorence says: it'a about map making tools
(09:48:15) Kalelorence says: there will be some ehancement, because i try to make slope map of bdroad one
(09:48:28) Weltall says: blender or 3dsmax. second preffered
(09:48:31) Kalelorence says: it would be really good to make plain shape
(09:48:45) >Sasigher stands up.
(09:48:47) Kalelorence says: or be able to fill shape with a color
(09:49:14) [Alliance] Sarva says: Think he means in game player made maps Weltall
(09:50:00) Kalelorence says: the best would be a total SVG support
(09:50:21) Sarva says: I'm waiting to see if Weltall has anything to say about this.
(09:50:46) Erelenga grins at Kalelorence: "Oh boy ... it is a game. Leave a little imagination left."
(09:51:06) Daxa scratches under her chin and mutters, "And watch where you are going."
(09:51:22) Mishka says: Yes, RP rules the server. Even if it's full of PLers. I think the maps are excellent as is.
(09:51:32) Weltall says: last time ive checked cs tools didnt have fill and emulating ot would be sloe we will see afyer gsoc
(09:52:19) >Mordaan stands up.
(09:52:33) Sarva says: Weltall says Last time I've checked cs tools didn't have fill and emulating of would be slope. We will see after the Google summer of code is over.
(09:52:48) Kalelorence says: i did slope map
(09:53:04) Kalelorence says: maybe i should speak with him
(09:53:22) Sarva says: I suggest talking to Weltall in IRC
(09:53:29) Kalelorence says: allright
(09:53:33) Kalelorence says: thank you
(09:53:35) Sarva says: Best place to find him
(09:53:48) >Kalelorence Majelower takes a seat.
(09:53:49) Mordaan says: I've noticed since 0.5.7.1 map loads have been a bit longer (for me at least). Is it just a matter of number of items causing the server to take longer to load them?
(09:54:26) Weltall says: slow not slope
(09:54:42) Erelenga says: It is your client which loads them. And it may be related to the additional normal maps.
(09:54:44) Sarva says: Ah Weltall said slow not slope.
(09:55:07) Sarva says: so it would be to slow he said to your questions Kalelorence
(09:55:15) Mordaan says: After some updates, the load times seems lightning quick...just curious what makes the difference
(09:55:32) Mishka says: Probably bumpmapping?
(09:55:33) Kalelorence says: too slow ?
(09:55:43) Sarva says: My map load times can be all over the place from fast to slow I've noticed.
(09:55:50) Mishka says: I sometimes go lightspeed, though.
(09:55:53) Weltall says: nothing changed in the last build except the chat fix
(09:56:32) Mordaan says: Depends on the map...overall it seems slower to me, especially at startup.
(09:56:35) Sarva says: Weltall says nothing changed in the last update except the chat fix.
(09:56:37) Avilay says: your client has already cached plenty map data, thus additional loads after updates is generally faster than first load after a update
(09:56:49) Weltall says: normal map arent taken with shaders low
(09:57:14) Sarva says: Weltal says normal map aren't taken with shaders low
(09:57:48) Mordaan says: ok, just a casual observation.
(09:58:02) Mordaan says: Thank you.
(09:58:07) Avilay says: try load the entire world, no loading screen except for pterosaur rides
(09:58:16) Erelenga says: Then it may be related to your memory consumption, swap file activity.
(09:58:27) Sarva says: Our scheduled hour meeting time is just about up so if there is any final questions let's hear them quick.
(09:58:27) Mordaan says: I have that...oddly many still load.
(09:58:34) Mishka says: There are some strange map connections when you do that sometimes, Avilay.
(09:58:35) >Mishka Briteblade stands up.
(09:58:48) Mordaan says: They fixed background loading which was great by the way.
(09:58:54) Avilay says: nah
(09:58:56) Erelenga says: Absolutely.
(09:59:00) Mordaan says: I mean great now.
(09:59:09) Sarva says: Mishka?
(09:59:11) Mordaan says: Used to cause havoc.
(09:59:13) >Mordaan takes a seat.
(09:59:16) Mishka says: Hi, since 0.5.7.1 I have Hall of Mirrors in ALL the zones link. Any idea why is it happening?
(09:59:30) Mishka says: For example, from Hydlaa Plaza to Jayose.
(09:59:48) Mishka says: And between roads, entering Ojaveda, bla bla…
(10:00:04) Erelenga says: Portals...
(10:00:08) Erelenga says: Neverending story.
(10:00:09) Sarva says: As Weltal said the only thing done in 5.7.1 was to fix the chat problem that was causing lag and freezing with the bad word filters on.
(10:00:11) Mishka says: Portals, yes.
(10:00:29) Erelenga says: Repair zoneinfo.xml?
(10:00:32) Mishka says: Well, not 0.5.7.1, sorry. 0.5.7 is more like it.
(10:00:34) Sarva says: But with the 5.7 update I started getting hall of mirrors on my Mac as well.
(10:00:50) Mishka says: Aha! That's it.
(10:00:55) Sarva says: But not on my laptop only my desktop
(10:02:30) Weltall says: lower shader your video card cant handle normal map
(10:02:34) Mishka says: Should I report? (sorry, got interrupted)
(10:02:51) Weltall says: and apple driver statud
(10:03:04) Sarva says: Weltal says lower your shader your video card can't handle the normal map.
(10:03:06) Weltall says: s doesnt help
(10:03:21) Mishka says: Will try…
(10:03:28) Mishka says: That's all, thanks.
(10:03:34) Sarva says: And Weltal says Apple drivers doesn't help
(10:03:43) >Mishka Briteblade takes a seat.
(10:03:50) Daxa excuses herself quietly fromt he meeting.
(10:03:56) Kalelorence says: harnquist gives trias for apple
(10:04:00) Avilay says: oh yes, gpu does play a big role these days in what features you can see
(10:04:38) Sarva says: Is there a last question?
(10:05:03) Erelenga grins about Kalelorence's remark
(10:05:30) Sarva says: If not then I thank everyone for coming and putting up with the unusual situation we had for today's meeting.
(10:05:50) Mishka says: This meetings are getting more void of contents over time
(10:05:55) >Heolion Krugher thanks Sarva Ghars!
(10:05:59) Sarva says: for the late arrivers Weltall is here he just can't go visible so I have been relaying his answers.
(10:06:00) Mishka says: these*
(10:06:09) Diggah says: Thanks Sarva, Daxa, and of course Weltall.
(10:06:27) Avilay says: wonder if we have another stange meeting againJuly 3 dev Q&A
(10:06:30) >Erelenga Karal stands up.
(10:06:33) >Erelenga Karal claps.
(10:06:34) >Diggah stands up.
(10:06:37) >Erelenga Karal cheers happily!
(10:06:41) >Mishka Briteblade stands up.
(10:06:42) >Kalelorence Majelower stands up.
(10:06:43) [Help] Durgal asks: ok i'll try the command line
(10:06:43) >Jilata Rerek stands up.
(10:06:45) Mishka says: Okay so bye.
(10:06:47) >Chaloia Chaurog stands up.
(10:06:49) >Jilata Rerek greets everyone.
(10:06:50) Sarva says: See you in two weeks and hopefully everyone will be able to see and hear Weltall then.
