Thanks for posting this.

The only thing I would add is that the in game petition system is a perfect way to contact me to report bugs, ask for help, suggest ideas, or really ask me anything. I have used the petition system for a long time in this way with probably 1000s of petitions aimed at me as it is the easiest way to report things to me. The forum is however suited to much bigger blocks of text when people have extended ideas or comments when the petition system is too small or unsuited.

Well I'd like to point you towards this http://greatshift.111mb.de/ which is a modded client which is completly allowed to connect to the main server and anyone can play with it.

There are two aspects of the client code, which are the graphics engine which is crystalspace, and then the game code which makes PlaneShift. Creating a fork of the current PlaneShift client code to use another graphics engine would as far as I'm concerned be fine. You can't really get an unfair advantage from making the art look different, which is all using a different graphics engine would do. This is exactly what we are doing with the move to UE4 anyway, exactly the same game, just looking different. And in terms of creating a new client based on a new art subsystem all of the rest of the code would have to do the same job in the same way as the current code or the game basically wouldn't work. All the important aspects of the mechanics of PlaneShift are based on the server, a modded client wouldn't change any of that, as it would still have to communicate to the server in the same way and understand everything the server the sent to it in the same way. Any 'hacks' to the game code for benifit could just as well be done on the current client as any other one.

But saying all that, it is just my opinion.

Hey, so I should say that I'm not going to support this idea for now. I have a number of reasons.

The first of these is that I don't belive that this will really improve RP, Emaline and I have been talking about where and how to set up a combined crafting area which can act as a first stop location if selling/buying and/or looking for crafters, our first choice is the market in hydlaa-east. I have already previously added a storage NPC for convenience after requests for having one for the market. Setting up a simple stall is not especially hard and making a book with pictures in which display all the items you are selling is easily produceable, once you've made it it will last basically forever. I'm not sure how many people do this but you can. I think this addition to the public area should help satify some of the requests.

Second, hiding players away in a house for long periods while they wait for people to come by to buy things, or are actually RPing, will unnecessilary remove people from visibility within the game. There are cases where this hiddenness is balanced by the benifit the location brings, guild houses or the hospital in amdenir for example, I don't think it will be the case for a shop a player essentially owns. New players who aren't aware of how doors work and what they might find beind them will be the ones that miss out the most from having people hidden away, and we can't risk having more players in houses than we must.

Third, houses should not be used to store items in. There are guild houses with LOTS of stuff in and this all serverly adversly effects the speed with which the server starts as every item in every guild house is loaded into the server memory at run time. Items should be kept in storage. I can see every shop being filled with so many items it just makes this whole thing worse, such that you probably end up with the door entry bug people experience when entering a guild house filled with 100s of items.

When the situation changes we can revisit this, perhaps with the UE4 engine move we can remake Hydlaa and have a full offical market place which can better support player shops. But for now if there are other things which can do to support merhcants, more fixed stalls, more varied props, more NPC dialogue to talk about when/where to find things like the market, more sign posts or other notices...... Let us know.

Venalan

OMG IT'S DOWN STILL!

This is quite useful for me, as I'm not able to make it to any meetings at the moment. Nice to see if there are any questions that I can give more information on, this time there isn't.

Some one (not me this time) will need to pester Talad to do it.

MASSIVE thanks goes out to Jilerel for donating his models to us for use in PS.

His work can be found here http://207.244.96.64/PlaneShift/smf/index.php?topic=42806.0

Can we see something with a moonlight-like ambient lighting, as well as any items giving off light?

The two images displaying a lantern and fire are dynamically giving off light, is that what you meant as items giving off light or more carrying a torch and walking about?