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Support => Forum and Website Discussions => Topic started by: Illysia on October 17, 2016, 12:40:04 pm

Title: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on October 17, 2016, 12:40:04 pm
If you look at the Member List (http://207.244.96.64/PlaneShift/smf/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;start=0;desc) when sorted by date registered, you'll see all the recent people joining. Now some of the recent joins are of course legitimate, but some can be easily picked out as bots because they either follow naming schemes of confirmed bots, or their profile information contains website urls that appear to be ads, pornography links, or strangely configured addresses.

Usually, the bots are just a minor nuisance, but I am a little concerned about the sheer number of them that join every day. One or two? OK fine. But 2016-10-15 saw at least 20 join... More bots are joining this forum everyday than people. I'm not sure what can be done about the bots, but I really think they need to be cleaned up if possible, especially since every so often one comes through in an attempt to inundate the forum.
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Venalan on October 17, 2016, 01:43:24 pm
It's becuase the forums look active now, so I blame you for it. (P.S. I'm keeping a check on the ones that post spam and removing them as they happen)
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on October 17, 2016, 01:49:03 pm
Oops :-X

Thanks for clean up job. I try to report the spam as I see it. I find "Show unread posts since last visit." is helpful for wading through the sea of posts to only report one spam post per thread. I figure reporting each individual post isn't important.
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: lilura on October 17, 2016, 06:40:30 pm
so I blame you for it.

yeah way to go illy  >:(

 :P
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on October 17, 2016, 06:43:46 pm
If I send the bots to go boo you Lilu, they may leave the forum alone for a while. :p
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Venalan on October 18, 2016, 02:04:31 am
IRC could do with more people on it to keep Lilura company, could you send them there Illysia?
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on October 18, 2016, 09:57:28 am
Can #planeshift hold them all?
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Emaline on October 18, 2016, 10:24:23 am
Yeah what's going on this month? If you look at the server stats more people have registered a new account this month alone that any ONE year combined dating back to 2011...almost 2x as many...and this month is only 1/2 over! Almost 1,000 people have made a new account this month? Are these stats right?

Or maybe I'm reading them wrong?

http://207.244.96.64/PlaneShift/smf/index.php?action=stats

If you scroll down to forum history and expand 2016 you'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on October 18, 2016, 11:15:04 am
I think you are right Emaline.
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Venalan on October 18, 2016, 11:59:24 am
Let's add updating the anti-bot check on the creation page to the list of things talad needs to get to doing.
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on October 18, 2016, 12:04:22 pm
I need to make a thread named "*poke* *poke* Hey Talad..." and stick everything in it. ;D
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Dilihin on October 18, 2016, 12:16:31 pm
Or contribute to PS and do it yourself?  :devil:
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on October 18, 2016, 12:57:10 pm
Ha! Talad would never give me access to the website whether I could fix or not. :p
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Venalan on October 27, 2016, 03:37:14 am
I got fedup with all the cleaning up I was doing so we now have new account creation questions so that should, for a while at least, stop so many bots appearing.
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: MishkaL1138 on October 27, 2016, 03:29:28 pm
If I were appointed global mod of this forum, and let me tell you, I'd be a GREAT moderator, I'd fix this bot problem with a very simple solution. It'd be so simple, you'd be amazed by it. Because I'm great at coming up with simple solutions to problems like this.

We're going to build a hyooge firewall. A very large one, one so thick no bots will be able to pass through it. And guess what. Guess what. We're going to make the hackers pay for it. Mark my words. We're going to build a hyooge, the greatest firewall, and make the hackers pay for it. And you're going to see it.
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on October 27, 2016, 04:02:46 pm
No campaigning to become a mango, Mishka Avodcado. You aren't orange enough. :P
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Rigwyn on October 27, 2016, 05:53:29 pm
Orange in the new black, yo. Orange lives matter!

Just say it.

"Orange Lives Matter".

#MAGA
#NeverHillary
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: MishkaL1138 on October 28, 2016, 05:19:53 am
A dark, thick shadow crept over the otherwise barely-alive forums. The lurkers, once mildly active, cowered behind their proxies and firewalls, hushing over IRC about what was to come, dank speculations about the evil that threatened the community, mingled with quick updates and tasteless candies.

It was there. The cancer that was tormenting the real world made its way into the very heart of a small indie game, tearing its inhabitants apart, both them and from each other, as everyone discussed and rooted against their least favorite - because of the two main individuals creating such turmoil, none of them were actually any "greater good;" just a lesser evil.

The USA Presidential Campaign was there...
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Rigwyn on October 29, 2016, 02:30:29 am
(https://img.pandawhale.com/post-38707-Highlander-there-can-be-only-o-V7Om.gif)
https://img.pandawhale.com/post-38707-Highlander-there-can-be-only-o-V7Om.gif
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Rirenil Masdo on November 07, 2016, 07:48:13 pm
so, i may be just going stupid in my old age, but i tried to be nice and make a new forum username under my old account ID (neko kyouran).  then i got to the "What is the color of the sun in Yliakum?:" fill in the blank.  .....

you're all just being mean.  the lore i remember from 2004 said that there wasn't a sun, it was a crystal.  and even then, every normal color i put in didn't work.

also, your forum software is old like i am, so bots now know how to get around captcha stuff anyways, so it leaves only those truly dedicated to the cause to try and figure out the right answers for all those new user account questions.

hope everyone's been well.  :)
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Rigwyn on November 07, 2016, 09:19:48 pm
They call it "The Azure Sun", I think. The settings have been updated and expanded since then. Latest are on planeshift.it
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Rirenil Masdo on November 07, 2016, 10:03:50 pm
I'm just saying, the average person that wants to create a user account on the forums to contribute something to this project is going to be put off by that question.  most will give up, and the bots get around it anyways, so its really only hindering, not helping.  if anything, put the answer somewhere on that page in an .img format or something.

now, i don't know what the user base is currently like now since i'm just an oldbie returning once every 3-4 years to say hi and all, but from my years of being around in development of designing applications, i can say that the harder you make the initial entry, the harder it is to grow your base.

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i mentioned this idea years ago, but knew it was never able to be implemented at the time due to each system being independent of each other.  i'll assume it's still the case, but maybe not.  the ultimate solution is to user a single sign on application that pulls the user ID and what not from when a person creates a planeshift game account and automatically makes the associated forum account.  then its easy for anyone playing the game to post, and you remove pretty much all bots.
Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Illysia on November 08, 2016, 12:00:18 am
Hiya Neko. o/

Actually the questions are helping. We went from 1.4 k bot's signing up last month to none so far this month. However, I can see where it might be a problem for people who don't read beforehand.

Title: Re: The bot build up is strange...
Post by: Rigwyn on November 08, 2016, 01:23:48 am
We're gonna build a wall......
    And were' gonna make newbies pay for it.

Make PlaneShit Great Again!