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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tidebringer on March 31, 2017, 08:03:30 pm

Title: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Tidebringer on March 31, 2017, 08:03:30 pm
(Note: This is merely the version with the fixed polls... apparently there was a duplicate polling option on the previous one. Oh well.)

*Tidebringer strikes the forums with not a reply to a pre-existing thread, but a -- (wait for it) -- poll!

Yes. You read that right, folks. A poll! Perhaps even just a silly little poll.

Actually, it really is just a silly little poll, made mainly due to the urgings of some strange "Idle Curiosity". Disclaimer: a certain "Boredom" may have also had to do with the creation of this poll.

These are for your potential questions that I obviously can't even wait to answer:

I'm interested to see how it goes, and feel free to post a little reply, regardless of whether or not you selected Option 8, Option 9, or Option 11. Hope you folks out there have a little fun with this, or at least find it something worthy of a faint smirk as you browse the forums, whether or not you even still play regularly/at all.

Best wishes, and vote up! ;)
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Can-ned Food on March 31, 2017, 10:45:41 pm
One thing i like is the ability to orient head and legs independently.  Naysayers notwithstanding, we kran do have necks!  Kran can swivel their heads.
Comparisons of the benefits to immersion between first–person and third–person modes have been made ad nauseum many times:  first–person is more compelling, but third–person overcomes the lack of tactile and spatial awareness.

Depending upon where I'm at and what I'm doing, I will usually vary between Free Rotation and Third Person Follow.
First Person has some uses when you want to examine something — but zooming to the near end of the range will switch to some version of that anyway.

Free Movement is too detatched.  It works in SecondLife or dreams, but not when you ought to be bound to an avatar.
Sometimes I use it, of course, but only when I'm not actively using my avatar.  I don't use it to break immersion so much as to admire the sights.

Dynamic Follow just isn't reliable for me.  When I want something like that, I'll play Silent Hill.

 :sorcerer:
All that being said, of course, it is better to have more functionality than less.  Taking screenshots, or making videos, is certainly a reason to keep some of these modes.
Contrary to the beliefs of some, I wouldn't consider any of these ‘bloat’ even if they were almost never used:  something is only bloated if it violates modularity to the extent of overlapping the operational scopes of other such things.
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Tidebringer on April 03, 2017, 06:50:55 pm
Shameless bump! ;D

I use Third Person Follow most of the time, simply because it helps me keep myself oriented but still allows me to move my character/model/avatar/whatever-you-want-to-call-that-thing about fairly naturally. However, if my character/model/avatar/etc. is sitting about or has been/will be standing in one place for a while, I usually switch to using Free Rotation, which allows me to view things from nearly every angle I could want and grants me the power to zoom in and out almost to my heart's content.

I admit that I do occasionally use First Person, but that's typically a side effect of scrolling in too much or just an attempt to get a closer look at something or other.

Free Movement is frustrating for me because I can't scroll in or out, which I have a tendency to do in an attempt to get into that Goldilocks zone of the zoom range. Other than that minor detail, it seems fairly similar to Free Rotation to me. Maybe that's why I tried to convince everyone there's not one, but two camera modes by this name.

Dynamic Follow is the camera mode that I find somewhat trippy and a little too inconsistent and detached to want to make much/any use of it.

See how easy this is? :P

Quote from: Can-ned Food on March 31, 2017, 10:45:41 pm
All that being said, of course, it is better to have more functionality than less.  Taking screenshots, or making videos, is certainly a reason to keep some of these modes.
Contrary to the beliefs of some, I wouldn't consider any of these ‘bloat’ even if they were almost never used:  something is only bloated if it violates modularity to the extent of overlapping other such things.
I second that. :thumbup:
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Can-ned Food on April 04, 2017, 01:06:04 am
Quote from: Tidebringer on April 03, 2017, 06:50:55 pm
Dynamic Follow is the camera mode that I find somewhat trippy and a little too inconsistent and detached to want to make much/any use of it.

Trippy?  Trippy (http://207.244.96.64/PlaneShift/smf/index.php?topic=36464.msg449506#msg449506)?
I might say more that the Dynamic Follow camera operator is stoned at the stick or something like that.

Don't forget to stop by the Hydlaa Discotheque (http://207.244.96.64/PlaneShift/smf/index.php?topic=36464.msg443664#msg443664) while you're in town.

Thinking about it a bitsy (my precious, my precious), perhaps the Dynamic mode would make a lot more sense, and better suited by the name, if it changed automatically — i.e. “dynamically”.  Vis–à–vis it would pan around to show you someone walking nearby, while attempting to also keep your target in view.
8) Yeah, great idea, Can-ned Food!

So, Dynamic Follow becomes Cinematic Follow and we get a new Dynamic Observe or something.
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: hulla on April 04, 2017, 07:33:52 am
Hello
i usualy use the "dynamic follow" and sometimes (more when i turn on the way up on the dr ) somme other camera mode
and if i remenber you have an ad on not on the client who can give you another camera mode not official
but i forgot where he is on the web whit this mode you can see all the map from the virtual sky or zoom on your char
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Damola on April 08, 2017, 11:12:08 am
I mostly use third person follow and that is what I voted. When sitting I sometimes switch to free rotation in order to change the view area or zoom in and out.
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Illysia on April 13, 2017, 07:45:40 pm
Not that I RP here anymore, but back in the day I would use...

Free rotation or movement, one of those, because I usually wanted to look down on my character in a way that would let me see the other characters and actually fit in the room. I was always at some odd angle so just third person view wouldn't cut it. Now that I think of it, it was mostly because of being in Kada's at floor level.

Maybe when my health decides to cooperate, I can pester everyone here more and maybe even find myself in game. :o
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Tidebringer on April 14, 2017, 11:41:17 pm
Quote from: Illysia on April 13, 2017, 07:45:40 pm
Not that I RP here anymore, but back in the day I would use...

I actually made that polling option with you in mind, Illysia. ;D

Even though he was possibly trying to hide, I know Rigwyn joined in the fun as well.
Quote from: Rigwyn on April 01, 2017, 02:56:57 pm
3pf always. Not being able to look around is kind of limiting.
:whistling:

It's very interesting to see what you all have to say about what camera modes you use, and I admit that I'm rather impressed this has gotten as much attention as it has. Thanks to everyone who has taken part in the polling, and I'm excited to see if/how more people will join in!
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Illysia on April 15, 2017, 01:40:11 am
Quote from: Tidebringer on April 14, 2017, 11:41:17 pm
I actually made that polling option with you in mind, Illysia. ;D

Guilty as charged. :D

However, I'm partially wondering when they gave polling options back. They took it away from the average poster for a while, way back yonder, then apparently gave it back at some point.
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Rigwyn on April 15, 2017, 03:13:30 am
Change in mods maybe?  Not sure why one would lock down the ability to make polls.

As for the lack of a neck, yeah.. it's reason enough to not use first person view.

Hiding? No.
Sleeping? ....you never know.

Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: lilura on April 15, 2017, 03:39:24 pm
i didnt do it!
Title: Re: The IG Camera Mode Preference Poll
Post by: Illysia on April 15, 2017, 03:41:42 pm
http://207.244.96.64/PlaneShift/smf/index.php?topic=35075.msg402919#msg402919

This was apparently the official reason at the time, but glad to see it relaxed. *Illy remembers old stuff*

*hands Lilu pie* It's ok Lilu, no one cares if you sneaked in a change. ;D
Title: Pollsters and Pundits
Post by: Can-ned Food on April 16, 2017, 11:34:39 am
Actually, such a limitation would be reasonable if it applied to certain boards here.  E.g. anyone and their groffel should be able to post polls in General Discussion (http://207.244.96.64/PlaneShift/smf/index.php?board=13.0) or any of the Fan Area (http://207.244.96.64/PlaneShift/smf/index.php#c36) boards, but poll–posting privileges should be limited to pertinent groups for the other boards.

Something like that.
On the whole, I rather think a Miscellany board would be better than a General Discussion, but whatever. :offtopic: