This post was written by both Aiwendil and Lhaa, and this is a shared account created only for this that will get deleted just the same as our individual ones.A few days ago we asked Dannae to join the management of the Red Crystal Organization and run the Den together with Illysia after we leave it. Illysia already proved several times she was a good choice for the management and Dannae was always a great help in the events in the past. We think that both are the best available candidates for this work and are really happy that they accepted the task. With us both gone there will be of course some changes in the RCO but I am sure Dannae and Illysia will try everything to make the Den as enjoyable for players as possible. A new thread of the likes of this one should pop up as soon as they're set up since nobody can edit this one anymore. Any questions or suggestions you have from now on about the Den should be taken to either Illysia or Dannae. For now, the RCO still has its boards in the Outlaws forum and it seems it will stay this way, but it may change in the future; Illysia and Dannae are now in charge to keep the players updated about any changes. But we would like to ask you all to give them your support if possible as we know very well how hard it is to run the Den without much support.
We finally managed to update the
gallery of the RCO events in the Outlaw's gallery page. Have a look if you want to see all screenshots of our events in one place.
And for completeness' sake, a list of all events we have done for the Den:
And of course there was the
Explorers' Poetry Fair and the Order of Light tournament at the
Hydlaa Summer Festival II we helped out a little bit with.
And now please allow me (Aiwendil) a few personal words about the Den:I'm really not sure what to say now afterwards about the Red Crystal Organization. This isn't very easy for me at the moment. In the last months there wasn't much for me to enjoy in PS at all so it's really hard to speak about the good times I had with the RCO.
So let me try to remember the good things first before I get to the point of asking myself again if it was worth it. When we got the Den from the Octarchal Society for Progress I was really excited about it as I was rather disappointed about the quality of Roleplay in PS already back then. I saw it as a chance to give players the possibility to roleplay in a place without any disruptions or the usual Nonsense going on in Kada El's. And looking back now I think I really had fun with it at the start. Sure, already when planning the first event it became clear that there won't be many players helping at all, but that was to be expected and of course got a lot worse over the time. I myself always enjoyed the regular opening shifts of the Den much more than the events we had to do to keep it. That were the occasions when some good RP was going on in the Den. Of course some of the events were fun to do also...especially the fashion parade comes to my mind there. That was the event I enjoyed most but for sure also the event that we put the most work into. And yes, of course I also enjoyed some of the "privileges" the Den gave us. We always had a spot to withdraw to for some RP if all others in Ylikaum around us went crazy. If there was a GM event we always could go to the Den and play there in a small group until the event was over. And not to forget the few nice players who helped and visited the Den regularly. It was a pleasure to play with all of them and without those players I would have given up on the Den already much earlier. Sorry, no list of names this time, the people I mean will know anyway. And last but not least the Den of course also helped with filling Aiwendil's background a bit. In the year we ran the Den it became a important part of Aiwendil and some others and always gave us some stuff to play out. In the end I for sure had my fun with the Den and all things involved in it but at the moment it takes some effort to remember those good times...maybe when I got some more distance to PS I can think back to them more easy again.
But on the other hand the Den of course also caused us a lot of troubles. And right now all I can say is that the troubles were much more than the fun with it. First of all of course the need to interact with GMs. While this wasn't a big issue at the start it got worse and worse over the time. Every few months we got some OSP rules changes when there was some post of me they didn't really like. After half a year we were told that by taking part in the OSP event and winning we got privileged players and better should keep our opinions for ourself if they are not conform with the PS team's opinion. I left the GM team because I wanted to do something for the roleplay in PS and not get into that control fetish of some PS team members and into all this favoritism that seems to be normal for the GM team. So I quit the GM team to support RP in Planeshift with the Den...only to see after some time that all the PS team wanted from us is to entertain other players for them and shut up. Second there was of course the huge amount of work that needed to be done for the Den. But that was something I was aware of in advance and that I accepted. What I wasn't aware of was the total lack of willing helpers for this. In the end it were always the same people again working for the Den...all others just came by to enjoy the shows or to poke me in tells what reward they will get for coming to one of our events. In a way I think the RCO came far too late to really work out well. When it was created the player count was already down at 100 and people were to busy dueling each other at the plaza to care about RP. And with the 0.5 version another major problem for the RCO showed up....the client was not stable enough to run events outside and the Den was not usable due to bugs. But even this didn't keep me off to get some others to do two more events with me...Afterwards I am really happy they didn't slaughter me for forcing them into this seeing how bad the events worked out. Of course I could add here a lot of minor annoyances too like players coming in the Den and trying to build the tower of Babel to climb to the ceiling or coming up with an IC newspaper article accusing Aiwendil to be an outlaw because it was in the OOC part of the RCO thread. (Or someone puking on the stage on our first event...I wonder if anyone still remembers that
). But this is nothing specific of the Den, RPing in PS always meant to have to deal with some idiots at times or keep an always updated ignore list. In the last half of the year the annoying sides of the Den (and of PS at all) just got far ahead of the good sides so it's for sure better to stop with it now. Just another failed try to give PS some life back...now it's time for others to do that or just keep on watching the degeneration, I'm done with this.
The last thing I tried was to make sure to hand the Den to people who are interested in the other players and PS at all. I hope that they will have more fun with it than I had and are more successful with it.
And now for something completely different, Lhaa's thoughts on the topic:First of all I want to thank everybody who helped along to run our events or directly took part in them. This one time I went through all the event threads so I'm positive I miss nobody (and if I missed one it's on intention, screw off you-know-who
). Names are written in no particular order:
Jonoth, Rigwyn, Lace, Dalgin, Stelanso, Llyn, Jaycol, Carua, Eneloy, Orgonwukh, Aucesia, Dakaros, Deror, Mellas, Torias, Yania, Grolla, Zakrei, Taradiddle, Remyl, Euli, Anaros, Glundun, Havuik, Domec, Mogweh, Morila, Caraick, Rerarel and Suati.
Last, and even more important thanks go to the ones who have been Managers along this time:
Siteya, Telnavi, Haraun, Orgonwukh, Elvi, Kaisa, Aiwendil and our newest one,
Dannae. <3 you all. o/
But to continue with Aiwendil's question to himself, I'm not sure whether all we did was worth it or not. We definitely had some good fun in the Den, most of the times when it was only a few of us inside, or in the regular shifts when interesting characters used to roam it. The whole recruiting and finding artists process was also fun sometimes, despite we always struggled to find more, or at least some that won't disappear in the next week/month. Events were stressing, but at least their aftermaths always were good fun as well.
Now, when I think of all we did and everybody who was involved, I tend to think "no, it was not worth it". Simply because of the people named above very few are still around, and seeing the current situation in PS it seems evident that the spirit we tried to transmit didn't get through. And it didn't get through because of the same issues I've been pointing out for the last... two years? three? I forget, really. But it's hard to forget nobody listened meanwhile and that now I read things like
"This evening, 7pm GMT+1, I saw 15players online" or see threads about how important for the health of RP is a simple meeting in Kada El's that used to be just the everyday thing some time back, or have to read new players trying to lesson some of the players that did most for the game simply because they don't know better who the hell they are or what they did. And to be honest, all those things just make me laugh. Not as much as the so-bent-to-RP PS team pushing people to mass-recruit brainlessly, but almost.
So it seems evident we failed to provide a lasting RP ambience in PS, and I don't think we should be surprised about it. Players prefer to RP only if there are rewards for it, and the team pushes them to act like this. The way the game is meant to improve has nothing at all to do with roleplay and not only doesn't support it, but obviously hinders it. What else could await us? As usual, too many expectations put in a ship that helplessly sails towards mediocrity. It's a shame it could have been great if the team had another view on some topics but one only has to see the
guilds list (with well known RP guilds like abcdefgh and JDKDK) to tell it can still get worse.
But even if I'm not up to go through more of the bullshit myself, I truly believe that both Dannae and Illysia are the right people to lead the RCO to a second great age if they get enough support; unless you people help them a bit posts like this one will have their names soon... And I wouldn't like to see that happen.
My best wishes to the two of you.