sexism in gaming

[Damola]

Volki, I feel compassion for you feeling horrified about the video you posted.

I also feel anger. I still struggled tomorrow to get some of the images of the video out of my mind.

Please, if you ever post something like this again: Include a BIG FAT warning.

I will do so now:

WARNING: The video Volki posted an URL to contains in game scenes that may not be approbiate for children or sensitive people

I know children are playing PlaneShift and I know sensitive people are playing PlaneShift. Please give them a fair option, not to view the video. And I think the video contains stuff that is clearly not approbiate for this kind of players. It contains scenes of celebrating sexual abuse, physical abuse and torture.

Volki, what were your intentions with posting this link? I didn´t see it to the end, but stopped at the first image that I felt shocked about. But from what I gathered the video is not about healing any of session, but about creating shock and sensation, in victimizing people and creating moral offense. None of this is going to change anything about what you see in the video. From what I have seen I do not believe there is a true intention in healing things with this video. None at all.

Please be more careful in what you invest your energy.

I will report with video as inapprobiate for children and sensitive people with Youtube.

Again I am shocked at how low the treshold is in videos about nudity, even natural nuditiy without any sexism, yet if it is violence the sensitivy seems to be much higher.

And what does it have to PlaneShift? PlaneShift does not contain any of this. I am aware of people playing that their char is being tortured by evil mages and so, yet it is truly opt in.

Please include a warning in your post that give people a clear option to consider whether they want to view the video. Once I had seen the first image of celebrating cruelty in the video, it was not easy for me to get rid of it again.

[Damola]

Okay, I missed the content warning and the intendet purpose according to the video description is educational, but still: I think this is inapprobiate for children or sensitive people.

[Donari Tyndale]

Some people should hang a sign with

WARNING: Going outside contains scenes that may not be approbiate for children or sensitive people

on their front doors. Srsly though. Does that mean certain people can't read about history? OH NOES VIOLENCE AND RAPE AND WAR.

My point of view is that people that feel offended by this need to swallow their feelings and man/woman up. As human beings, we have to deal with life. We can't just cry trigger warning every time something displeases us. Where would we be otherwise?

If there really was something like being "Triggered", most of humanity would be in a state of permanent trauma. It's just now that the internet allows easy withdrawal from real life and integration into online communities allows this bullshit, even. You can't block people in real life when they tell you to suck it up and face reality, that works only on twitter.

[Eonwind]

My point of view is that people that feel offended by this need to swallow their feelings and man/woman up. As human beings, we have to deal with life. We can't just cry trigger warning every time something displeases us. Where would we be otherwise?

Have you ever heard about the word context? While watching a TV news or reading a newspaper you may know you're eventually going to face violence, but you may expect the violence is set aside in a different context, like with a gaming forum,  or at least you expect to be warned beforehand. In such context expecting a warning can be pretty normal.

[Damola]

Some people should hang a sign with

WARNING: Going outside contains scenes that may not be approbiate for children or sensitive people

I stand by that I want to choose what I take in.

If I go outside in the country I live, I usually do not see people abusing each other in the way the video depicted. It is sad that human beings at other places do things like this to each other. I know this, I am aware of it, but that doesn´t mean I have to watch it or simulations of it. I even don´t think there is any benefit in me watching it. It won´t help anyone who suffered this.

I am even quite sure that this may be harmful to people who actually experienced a trauma like this, up to the point where it could even activate memories that may be healthier to keep at bay until the person in question built up resources to deal with what he or she experienced. Trauma therapist have shown that it is not necessarily beneficial to re-experience the trauma one experienced.

I may be quite sensitive to it, cause of having faced some abuse in my personal history. So now either take into account my oppinion that I think videos are this can be unsuitable for children or sensitive people or not.

I claim my right to be sensitive either way. Its not an illness to feel deeply.

[Donari Tyndale]

So we'll need to put a warning label on every cat video (you know, those with cat-phobia)? Fact is we don't know what everyone might possibly upset with. And every day life things most certainly shouldn't require that.

[Rigwyn]

I think that video link should have had a warning as a matter of courtesy.
ie. Tag it with NSFW (Not Safe For Work) so people don't accidentally open it at work or school and get grief.

[Denes]

I would advise caution against forming a  community too much to your shape. You might find yourself alone one day.
This link alone warrants for a ‘parental control rule’ IMHO and distasteful at best. I do wonder however if there are forums better suited for this part of reality.

[ludwigusdescartium]

context[/u]? While watching a TV news or reading a newspaper you may know you're eventually going to face violence, but you may expect the violence is set aside in a different context, like with a gaming forum

What a bizarre expectation. Why would you decontextualize one area of human social life and not another? If Greek tragedy or Shakespeare teaches us nothing else, it is that tragedy and calamity can occur at any moment. We equip ourselves both morally and intellectually for such eventualities. That is the context within which human life unfolds. We have perfectly good descriptors for this passage of social life, such as "growing up", "being an adult", "not being childish" etc etc.

This contemporary desire to signpost the obvious and suspend our critical, moral and intellectual apparatus is a request to stop engaging with the world, to stop being adult. It is in essence a call for the infantalisation of social life.

[BoevenF]

I always try to take into account that the one on the other side of the net sometimes he/she is being childish because actually he/she is a child. If possible, some arguments must be introduced with proper care, they're unavoidable anyway. But that doesn't mean we are entitled in any way to put equal weight on all the material we find on line. Frankly, the net often is so free (decontextualized) that's scary.
(bonsaikitten.com is an example. I you think it's real, then you must cease to use the net, your computer and your car. You're a danger for everyone. And please, don't grow kids.)

With great anonymity comes great responsibility.

I have the feeling I'm a bit off topic, but who really cares 

PS:
A consequence of Internet freedom is that every DIY Bothisattva on Earth it's indexed in search engines or forums.
Let's say it all together now: "No, you're not!".

[Volki]

For the record, I posted the video because

1) this is a forum for a game, so I thought gamers would be interested

2) many gamers have lately been feeling targeted by their own media and people like Sarkeesian who accuse them of misogyny

3) the violence against men in games is far worse than the violence against women, yet people like Sarkeesian focus only on the women

4) there are many people who play games that do not involve themselves in a great many number of games or the larger gaming community, so they may have misconceptions about other gamers if they see the contemptible articles written by unethical websites

For the record, I thought the content warning in the video description would have been enough, but I forgot that videos on YT play by default (I have a very customized browsing experience). I've already edited the OP.

I have no issue with violence in video games. Here is why: https://techraptor.net/content/study-shows-high-skill-gamers-less-aggressive-perceive-less-violence

As for sexual violence, that's what the ESRB is for.