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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: DepthBlade on August 26, 2004, 07:40:54 pm

Title: The sun rises..A new day!
Post by: DepthBlade on August 26, 2004, 07:40:54 pm
Fellow citizens of Planeshift, the day grows closer..the shadow grows stronger! We must be ready to advance all military skills in this world as quickly as possible! Together we will vanquish all who oppose the light, all who stand against the good! My light was dimmed for the last while...joining the Mercenaries...a great guild with some great members! Although my calling was to strong..I must stand in the direct path of evil and not on the sidelines. I cannot hide what my destiny shines so brightly..

   Now let us rally our forces and show up the oppressing armies of darkness, when this world\'s gates of battle are opened!!! We must hold our swords high and our \"Will\" higher..Let not their mass numbers create fear within your guild\'s ranks or their reputations cause doubt in the hearts of good! Together we will prove no one is going to take our land, our kingdoms and OUR people! Let us now hear from others of good will!

MIRTH GUILD, CIRCLES OF LEGEND! WHAT SAY YOU?!
and everyone else who has good in their hearts and even those that don\'t, but want freedom from the tyranny of their evil masters! WHAT SAY YOU?!
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Post by: karakth on August 26, 2004, 07:46:14 pm
I say...They can do whatever they want as long as the don\'t bother my studies or the studies of my colleagues.
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Post by: Xordan on August 26, 2004, 07:47:38 pm
Your land?? You mean the land you stole off the last people who lived there....

Bleh, bring it on. (Or summin:P)
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Post by: Joeyguy on August 26, 2004, 08:15:53 pm
Forgetting someone?

HINT: It\'s Defenders.
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Post by: Draageos on August 26, 2004, 08:18:14 pm
Lemme\' think... Good aligned guilds on Kada El\'s list..
CoL, Mirth... Mmhhh
I wonder.. I dimly recall atleast three guilds on that list. :P
lol.. Though I feel kind of dissapointed that you could overlook us - we know you mean well my friend

Edit: bugger Joey... You beat me to it :P
That\'s what being the slowest typer around does for me..
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 26, 2004, 08:22:18 pm
Umm... what\'s your point?

Are you trying  to create an alliance?
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Post by: Draageos on August 26, 2004, 08:27:14 pm
There already is an alliance of good alligned guilds if you don\'t remember.. It\'s called CoLA or Citadel of Light Alliance
So what do you have in mind Depthblade

btw good to see that you have found the brighter side of yourself
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 26, 2004, 08:57:23 pm
I apologize for not having \"The Defenders\" upon the list but it did state everyone with good will..There is no need for alliances or pacts, we all know the basics of our objective \"To fight the darkness and keep these lands under the control of good.\"

 We must be quick to rise to power when CB comes out..if and when PVP ever comes out we must be strong and we must unite. There need not be any official horn to call us together or meeting..we should just know that the time has come, and extend helping hands to each other!

Arcane Order has always commanded much respect from me and I would never have them disturbed from their studies unless...those studies began to disturb good immensly.

Xordan..the day is coming soon.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on August 26, 2004, 09:13:04 pm
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Although my calling was to strong..I must stand in the direct path of evil and not on the sidelines. I cannot hide what my destiny shines so brightly..

 :]  \"Music to my ears!\" :))

But still, what are you suggesting(concretely)?

The way Depth\'s proposal differs from the cola, is activity. He want\'s to stand and meet them head on, ready. Defenders and Mirth are more passive.
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Post by: Draageos on August 26, 2004, 09:21:31 pm
The armies of darkness may seem overpowering and many times greater than us in numbers... That I admit to you - my enemies - forces of darkness!
But I promise you! I too have faitH that we will prevail ultimately. We - stalwart knights of good - with hearts pure and an unwavering will - we have the power to set wrongs right and make the history of Yliakum a bright one!
Our defiance against evil will never rest!

Though we must be wary of not becoming like our enemy and thus fail our quest!
This is not an endeavour to rush into without thought..

The time will come and we will be ready
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Post by: Yarulion on August 26, 2004, 09:53:11 pm
What the hell is this? A CoLA Revival?
Hallelujah! Preach on, brotha Depthblade!

Um... anyways... you guys have fun amassing your armies to stand in our way. Let us know when you\'re going to march so we can sneak around you and loot your empty houses.

Anyone who wishes to lay down their arms and hand over their loot in advance to make things easier and less painful, PM me with subject line SURRENDER (gotta keep things organized, ya know) and I\'ll let the appropriate people know.
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Post by: Draageos on August 26, 2004, 10:21:03 pm
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What the hell is this? A CoLA Revival?
Hallelujah! Preach on, brotha Depthblade!

Um... anyways... you guys have fun amassing your armies to stand in our way. Let us know when you\'re going to march so we can sneak around you and loot your empty houses.

Anyone who wishes to lay down their arms and hand over their loot in advance to make things easier and less painful, PM me with subject line SURRENDER (gotta keep things organized, ya know) and I\'ll let the appropriate people know.


CoLA revival... sounds interesting.
Just one thing though.. A revival requires something to be dead first - and that kinda rules CoLA out. It\'s alive and kicking still
We\'ve discussed that we might not appear very active to others but believe me - we are active, and you shouldn\'t let your arrogance get the better of you.. Or your prideparade will come to a most sudden and unexpected stop..
I urge you Yarulion, you may still have time to redeem youself and change side.. We see no need for any unnecessary bloodshed - though we will shed it if need be - for it will be your blood that will be spilled!
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Post by: Icefalcon on August 26, 2004, 10:50:42 pm
If DepthBlade manages to unite the armies of light against the forces of darkness, let me just say, you can count ofn the Mercenaries help! Yay...

*ehem* That is, unless the evil guys pay me more...then that will suck for you guys...

If anyone want to hire early, check out the forums (http://icefalcon.proboards27.com/index.cgi)   ;) Remember, if you don\'t jump at this opportunity, the other guy will...

@DepthBlade - Nothing personal, its bussiness
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Post by: Draageos on August 26, 2004, 10:58:58 pm
Astonishing!
Such indifference... An utter and complete lack of moral and ethics to do good?!!
I now see first hand why you have left them Depthblade

But still, it will be their actions that will prove their allegiance, let them be for the good of all :]
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 26, 2004, 11:16:47 pm
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Originally posted by Yarulion
What the hell is this? A CoLA Revival?
Hallelujah! Preach on, brotha Depthblade!

Um... anyways... you guys have fun amassing your armies to stand in our way. Let us know when you\'re going to march so we can sneak around you and loot your empty houses.

Anyone who wishes to lay down their arms and hand over their loot in advance to make things easier and less painful, PM me with subject line SURRENDER (gotta keep things organized, ya know) and I\'ll let the appropriate people know.


I am going to break you, the first chance I get.
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Post by: Half_Pint on August 26, 2004, 11:55:06 pm
The Citadel of Light is exactly what its name suggests:  a bastion of Good against the evil in the world.  We embrace all who are Good and Innocent within our protection, but we do not go seeking war simply because someone has called themselves \"evil.\"

Rest assured, DepthBlade, we will do what we must to protect the happiness of the people of Yliakum.
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 27, 2004, 12:09:47 am
You already nailed what I am trying to do straight on Lynx..head them off, instead of them growing to strong and gaining to much!

Aye Draageos, I look forward to fighting along side with you, valiant and honorable warrior you seem to be. Fear them not for they are nothing more then hordes of weak minded conformists! Kill their leader and you have them 3/4 beat!

- I hold nothing against which way you sway IceFalcon that is the way of your guild, and I respect that. -

Yarulion..we shall never withdraw our forces nor shall we forfeit ourselves to you! You plan to maneuver around us? Thats fine..You plan to steal from us and raid our villages and cities perhaps..? So be it..but if you actually decide to turn your words into actions, you will find that we will be ready to push you back and send you fleeing...because HEY...you just told us your strategies fool. \"Your Death is my Quest, and nothing shall stop me..not even death itself!\"

EDIT: ^^ Half_Pint you always prove to be reliable!
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Post by: Waylander on August 27, 2004, 12:20:28 am
Heh I agree with your sig Deothblade, too may godly guilds.

On topic: So, a new guild arises from the ashes of Xperto, ready to battle evil against all odds?  ready to forsake family for the fight? hmm, when it comes to good I am with Mirth :)

But heh, if you are going to kill Seperot then I will offer all the help I can :P
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 27, 2004, 12:22:55 am
No..no new guild..I stand alone as a freelancer..if I were to make another guild I would certainly just bring back Xperto..but that isn\'t happening right now!

As for Seperot, time will tell..I do not completely under estimate my enemy, for as it was already stated by one of them they will come up behind you stabb you in the back and steal your pride and your money! I claim to be no God, I rather will just do what I can well I can!
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Post by: Sangwa on August 27, 2004, 01:20:34 am
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Fear them not for they are nothing more then hordes of weak minded conformists! Kill their leader and you have them 3/4 beat!


You do underestimate your enemies.
Aply your current thoughts about  evil guilds in a war against the Dark Empire and despair with your failure.
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 27, 2004, 01:22:58 am
What do you mean when you say \"too many Godly players\"??
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Post by: Jadd on August 27, 2004, 02:48:01 am
We don\'t resort to violence unless it\'s a last option, but if the shadow falls upon the citadel of light, we will do our best to aid in the battle.
Followers of darkness, it\'s never too late to turn over to the light side. You follow what you belive is right as well as we do, but you really should reconsider. A war is just a waste of life, and you will lose more than you gain. Killing only builds up the hate inside your heart, which will eventually consume you.

May Aliathi guide you back to the light.
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Post by: Zodius on August 27, 2004, 03:35:23 am
Your megar attempts to stop my army of darkness is futile! My vision can not be foiled for I have seen the future... and you were not in it... MUHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!
Onward my soldiers! Let us not waste our breath on these non believers a moment longer!!!
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 27, 2004, 03:36:52 am
Consider going from working your defensive COLA to playing the offensive..You can\'t just wait for the enemy to come to you all the time..Take the plunge into battle and yes LOOK for them and exterminate them or they will do unto you!

Sangwa there are worse things then Dark Empire lurking in the shadows at the moment or atleast more annoying things that need dealing with..

EDIT: Zodius..Death will be delt to you last >:|
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Post by: FESFES on August 27, 2004, 04:55:34 am
Well after reading your \"epic story\" I have 4 words for you

Time To Die Fly

The evil that seeps from my chest every time I exhale will soon cover this land with my darkness.
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Post by: seperot on August 27, 2004, 05:01:04 am
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As for Seperot, time will tell..I do not completely under estimate my enemy, for as it was already stated by one of them they will come up behind you stabb you in the back and steal your pride and your money! I claim to be no God, I rather will just do what I can well I can!


indeed an under estimation of ones foe can prove to be quite...fatal

to say the least this whole thread throws me as somewhat odd a ex mecr faliure of a leader calling to arms all good guilds to stand and fight the armys of amasing evil. which it turn leads me to belive your doing this out of pride for yourself to keep active and not to lose your growing place in out fair lands or........chould it be that your afriad? afriad that the comming mass of darkness is getting ever bigger? soon the darkness shall be to much for the light? in anycase the cola will fall its reached the brink of extinction before involving corruption of darkness members dissapearing andand lack of effort....be it though effort of the IT and its allie or by another evil the cola is doomed to fail and all involved will scuum or die

ooc: gl with that guys hope you can keep it going more smootly :
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Post by: AendarCallenlasse on August 27, 2004, 06:21:37 am
As far as the Calen Vakhar is concerned we will only wage war against those who defoul our land or speak ill of us.

Though I am sure we share common allies with some of the good alligned guilds we do not hate all evil guilds and it is not in our best interest to openly oppose all of them.
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Post by: Syzerian on August 27, 2004, 06:29:13 am
Hah! by fighting evil you think you are destroying it but you only make it stronger.
There is no real goodness in you depthblade, you are just yet another form of darkness attemting to destroy another form of darkness. I suggest the Blitzers or the Defenders for they are the ones which will satisfy your desires the most over the other guilds.
I hope you realise that this is not your destiney
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 27, 2004, 07:09:41 am
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to say the least this whole thread throws me as somewhat odd a ex mecr faliure of a leader calling to arms all good guilds to stand and fight the armys of amasing evil. which it turn leads me to belive your doing this out of pride for yourself to keep active and not to lose your growing place in out fair lands or........chould it be that your afriad? afriad that the comming mass of darkness is getting ever bigger? soon the darkness shall be to much for the light? in anycase the cola will fall its reached the brink of extinction before involving corruption of darkness members dissapearing andand lack of effort....be it though effort of the IT and its allie or by another evil the cola is doomed to fail and all involved will scuum or die



This is not done for my pride, or my reputation..Remeber it is not a man that gives himself a reputation, he does what he wants and people make a reputation out of him! As for your theory on the mass of darkness getting even bigger..that is completely true..cola will fall...perhaps..All is possible..

  ..I have a theory upon this Seperot, you will come to arms...rallied with your men. You will start out on some madd adventure to destroy all that stands in your way...then you will come to a road..and there might be COLA..there might be..others..but I will gurantee you one thing I will be on that road, ready...and whatever of your scum I leave alive..lets hope they can carry you and the rest of your dead men off the road..so trade envoys can get by.....but hey guess we will wait till the day comes to find out which theory passes to reality.

FESFES you have my promise, that before anyone else YOU  alone shall be first to the slaughter! Not because you prove to be evil...no not evil..You alone endanger the future of our children\'s intelligence, letting you live around them in others brings down their knowledge! I have a feeling someone will draw a picture of your death..real soon :)

Syzerian..whatever I am..whatever I do...It is of my will and your sore words of thought, will not change its path!
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Post by: lynx_lupo on August 27, 2004, 09:43:22 am
DE = Dead Empire? Apart from the usual incativity,  I never saw/heard/felt any evil acts from them. So much of a threat. ;( We need a threat!

I can assure you, I will side with the looser-of-the-moment. After all, extremes are dangerous(and boring) and Balance must be restored!

Another thing, the cola isn\'t everything Depth - there are some nice actively opposing guilds out there. Seek their audience too. ;)

Oh, this thread is fun! Thank you all for the good rp ad flamelessness :)
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Post by: Draklar on August 27, 2004, 10:32:33 am
No violence, standing back until evil attacks... all Aliathi\'s lies!
Evil is always opressing! Gathering forces by turning folk onto the dark path. Making cunning plans of attack and spreading its roots all across the land. And tell me, how do ye plan to weed it from evil, once it\'s a strong part of the world?
The forces of darkness are not just mindless creatures roaming the depths of the world! No, they\'re cunning and from what I see, way more clear minded than the forces of light. Evil will not stand back, nor will it strike on random moment. It\'ll strike once you\'re weakened or the darkness itself is in its greatest glory.
And yet you have the nerve to call someone who sees through mist and shadows, the another form of darkness. You all are blinded by foolish hopes and Aliathi\'s promises. If nothing changes, you will suffer in the end. And just think, all you loved, all you stood for will be destroyed just because ye refused to attack when the time was right. Do you want to take that risk? Will you be able to look at yourselves once that happens? Remember that where evil has plans... you have only hopes.

May the Grungir be on the side of light, for I do not see any glitters of hope in the ways of yours.
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Post by: Draageos on August 27, 2004, 02:33:00 pm
@ Draklar
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No violence, standing back until evil attacks... all Aliathi\'s lies! [etc]

Being a Defender I feel a certain responsibility to address your comment..

Who are we to assume something evil..
We will be no better than the ones we fight if we lash out at everything we deem evil.
A pre-emptive strike against evil will be one made out of fear not necessarily one of just...

Not saying that we should wait and do nothing
We will take precautions and be prepared - and let their actions prove their heart - if that be black, then I will promptly deal with it... Not before - Because I believe in free will, and will not force people to choose good
I will do my best to convince them of the folly of evil and the self-evident reason to defend good, but if you deprive a person the choice of being evil you deprive the same man the choice of being good - which is probably one of the worst things you could do.
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Post by: Draklar on August 27, 2004, 03:28:00 pm
Who are we to assume something evil?
The men with conscience!

How can you swear to fight evil, if you do not understand what it is?
How can you swear to defend people, if you do not know from whom?
How can you be proud of who you are, if your life depends on actions of the evil ones?

I\'ve seen many forces of darkness corrupting hearts of folk of Yliakum. They openly stated their agression against the light!
Stay a blindman and fail to see it
Stay a coward and refuse to see it

This is where you decide about your destiny. You can stay just a simple warrior, fighting only when it\'s necessary. Or become a warrior of clear heart, one that can tell good from evil, one that will do everything to oppose forces of darkness.

Just remember,

It\'s not the sword
that makes a warrior true
if you think your muscles do
you don\'t have a clue
It\'s a matter of integrity
trust and loyalty
It\'s to know about wrong or right
that makes you a knight!


If you truly are a knight, you will know who to fight. But if you ever stop hunting down the darkness, you are nothing but a disgrace to the good name of those brave warriors.
You\'re free to decide who you are, but keep in mind that if you don\'t change your ways, you in no way will be a knight.

Oh, and as a founder of Defenders, I have to say that I\'m disappointed of what I see. Defenders\' role was to stand agressive against the darkness. That\'s the way of heroes and paladins...


And don\'t listen to Aliathi... she spreads lies that will blind noble warriors.

Do not fight out of hatred - for that will destroy you.
Do fight for everything you love - for that will bring you to glory.
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Post by: Draageos on August 27, 2004, 04:07:31 pm
Ouch!
Yes I may not be the best to represent the ideals of the Defenders, and I do not assume to know the lot
Though you should not judge the Defenders as a whole on an impression based on me..
It wouldn\'t be fair and it wouldn\'t be true... You know Golmir and Zabeal, and probably a hell of lot better than I do - you know what they stand for...

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How can you swear to fight evil, if you do not understand what it is?
As a Defender I swore to defend the people of Yliakum against evil and root it out if need be
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How can you swear to defend people, if you do not know from whom?
I never claimed to be neither dumb nor blind
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How can you be proud of who you are, if your life depends on actions of the evil ones?
My life depend on the actions of the evil ones?
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I\'ve seen many forces of darkness corrupting hearts of folk of Yliakum. They openly stated their agression against the light!
That evil I will deal with in an appropriate manner... If they are corrupting the hearts of the citizens there is no doubt in my mind that it is vital to our cause that it is brought to an end

If defending people\'s right to choose the path of evil is in conflict with being a knight - ....

You think that I may not be a true knight of good
That saddens me... Coming from one such as you

Btw I\'m no follower of Aliathi, to my knowledge not many defenders are
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 27, 2004, 06:33:32 pm
Aye Draklar things will get done the way we see them best, well not \"We\" because as it has already been stated their will be no offensive by certain guilds! As for only calling out certain people, I said everyone with \"Good-Will\", so that means if your neutral and you feel strongly against whats happening...come on down..if your just some freelancer like me...come on down!

   I think some things are mistaken here, I am not any solider..leader..or member of another guild...not a Knight...just a man doing what I can..

  If hatred guides my power...then let it guide me! As long as I am using it against guilds such as Cabal, M.M, IT..there is no problem..and if I one day turn because my hatred has taken control of me then I would expect you to hunt me down >.<
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Post by: Hadfael on August 27, 2004, 06:35:40 pm
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Oh, and as a founder of Defenders, I have to say that I\'m disappointed of what I see. Defenders\' role was to stand agressive against the darkness. That\'s the way of heroes and paladins...
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We are still standing, but not agressive.

Maybe is it your agressivity that throwed you in the arms of evil. Now I bet you know evil more than we do.

We don\'t fear evil. Not that we underestimate its number and perverted plans to overcome Yliakum.

We are not here to use evil methods to fight evil. Our strength is in friendship and honor. This won\'t be harmed by any evil. To stronger threats we respond to closer friendship.

The Defenders goal is to defend our friends and allies in the honorable way by removing every evil action from Yliakum. The task is huge but we will use a methodical determination to stop every evil threat from the strongest to the weakest with no exception.

So why not attack everyone who calls himself \"evil\"?
Because, as I said, we can\'t underestimate the forces and various ways of evil. We are not here to dissipate our forces in desperate fights for the imaginary glory of an useless death.
What\'s really changed since you left the Defenders, is that we prefer a living hero. Throwing ourselves in a battle must be the way to defend the light. What\'s the use of exploring the death realm when the world is lost in the hands of evil? We are ready to die in battle if it can serve the light and our friends.
You created a guild named \"Defenders\" not \"Martyrs\".

The funny thing about this thread, is that evil is always claiming: \"Don\'t underestimate us!\"...After all, it\'s underestimating the Good people. So in return, I claim \"Don\'t underestimate the Good warriors \"
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Post by: Phinehas on August 27, 2004, 06:49:20 pm
*Phinehas looks around condescendingly.*

Ahh, what a relief to be neutral. None of the exhausting zeal of the good, none of the downright foolishness of the evil. *Looks at Icefalcon.* Am I right, or am I right?

Of course, doesn\'t mean I don\'t get to have my own personal enemies....
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Post by: Draklar on August 27, 2004, 07:14:12 pm
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We are not here to dissipate our forces in desperate fights for the imaginary glory of an useless death.
What\'s really changed since you left the Defenders, is that we prefer a living hero.

Oh no, I can clearly say you prefer \"no hero\".
Being a hero means that you\'re ready to die for what you believe in. \"Hero\" has many faces, but your deffinition of \"living hero\" is not one of them. If you weren\'t afraid to die, you could unite to defeat evil, I\'m sure forces of good are larger at the moment. It\'s only you who do not wish to make a move and wait to die while \"defending\" your own lives.
Bards do not sing songs about warriors who fought defending their homes. They sing about heroes who were sworn to fight evil and were ready to die for their quest. Memory of their brave deeds will be passed from father to son, giving sparkle of hope and will to fight for freedom.
That\'s what glory is about.
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 27, 2004, 08:00:57 pm
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Bards do not sing songs about warriors who fought defending their homes. They sing about heroes who were sworn to fight evil and were ready to die for their quest. Memory of their brave deeds will be passed from father to son, giving sparkle of hope and will to fight for freedom.
That\'s what glory is about.


*raises his arms in a joyous motion* Aye!! Listen to what Draklar says and raise your swords to the enemies throat and cut them before they come for you! Would you rather the fight come to your walls...in letting that happen you will risk the lives of so many innocent who are near by during your defensive campaign. You want to protect them as much as I do so why not take the road and meet up at their bases...their hide aways...Do you think they will just up and decide..My time of being evil is over, I shall now put down my weapon and join you...Nooo..They are evil and even the enemy has its own honor in doing things..
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Post by: Jadd on August 27, 2004, 08:38:59 pm
I prefer a hero who values his own life as much as he values others. From my perspective, a true hero isn\'t one who \"dies in glory\", but one who can solve problems without bloodshed. A person who don\'t even need to draw his or her sword to win a battle, and whoms personality is stronger than any weapon.
Know that you can hurt a man ten times more with words, than with a sword. With swords you can break their body, but with words you can break their very soul.

Fighting is the lowest form of conversation. If you want to sink to their level, then do, but fighting only leads to more fighting, and eventually you will be no better than the people you\'re fighting against.
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Post by: Draklar on August 27, 2004, 08:50:05 pm
Ah, thank you Jadd... you changed my way of thinking... let\'s all throw our swords away and hope that Seperot will become a good kitty... and if he tries to stab us with katana, let\'s just call him a jerk and damage his evil soul...
Hey, we don\'t need to use swords, we\'ll just defeat evil with personality!
And here\'s the best part: We\'ll have so much fun seeing as forces of darkness will be killing our families because we never trained our fighting skill. No, wait... we won\'t see that because evil isn\'t dumb, it\'s cunning... it won\'t fight head on, but cut our throats while we\'re asleep.

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Nay, I think I\'ll stay true warrior honoring brothers who stood before me.
And you know what is funny? That DepthBlade will be the hero saving your lifes while you\'ll be helpless folk trying to save themselves from overwhelming darkness.
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Post by: Draageos on August 27, 2004, 09:34:22 pm
You say that you are a knight... You\'re starting to remind more of a thug with good intent.
You let your fear guide you and cut of the hand of your allies because they do not throw their lives away against evil... There is no honour in that \"hero\".

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This is where you decide about your destiny. You can stay just a simple warrior, fighting only when it\'s necessary. Or become a warrior of clear heart, one that can tell good from evil, one that will do everything to oppose forces of darkness.

You would do everything?
- Would you sell your own soul?
- Would you sacrifice innocents to save others?
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Post by: Hadfael on August 27, 2004, 09:42:49 pm
The bards don\'t usualy sing the story of the losers.

Suicide is not my definition of an heroic death.
Let the true evil use suicide commandos of stupid followers. The Good heroes might show theyr value in these time.
Every self called \"evil\" is welcome to offer us some training.

If I understand you Draklar_the_one_who_gave_up, you think we should go to war against evil without waiting. I see your point. Feel free to attack alone in a desperate fight. We\'ll be here to help you and the Mirth might sing songs about your victories or your death.
Attacking is not always the best way of defense. Only one way.
So, once again, no sacrifice is needed if it doesn\'t help you to get closer to the final victory.
Just let the evil think like you that we are weak. Our duty is to stand. And if we have to make the first move to fight evil, we will. But only if it\'s not in a useless pseudo-heroic suicide.
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Post by: Draklar on August 27, 2004, 09:43:07 pm
If being honorable and wishing to destroy what\'s evil is worthy of a thug, then yes, I\'m a thug.
I\'m not putting fancy titles on myself. I\'m a warrior true to myself and my life.

but just a reminder: Paladin is the one who will hunt evil with no mercy, yet won\'t do backstabbing deeds.
What you\'re trying to say is that paladin is a thug with good intent.



And don\'t be childish, you know what I meant :O


ah fine, you\'re free to do whatever you want. I tried to help, show you the rightfull path, the legacy of brave heroes. But you wish to stand back. It\'s your decision.
And you may think that these songs are about losers, but...

There\'s A Sound Heard Across The Land
It\'s Heard Across The Sea
You\'ll Only Hear It If You Listen With Your Heart
And One Day Hope To Be Free
To Hear The Sound Of Freedom Many Gave Their Lives
They Fought For You And Me
Those Memories Will Always Live Inside Us
And now It\'s Our Time To Be Free


They were brave men, who only dreamed to give freedom to others. It\'s sad that you consider them losers.
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Post by: Hadfael on August 27, 2004, 10:02:28 pm
So here is the conclusion:
You are the only Good warrior around.
Ok.
May you have luck in your fights. And if you need help, in a last whisper, call the ones you disregarded. We will respond, not for glory, but because your life might worth more in our eye than in yours.
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Post by: Icefalcon on August 27, 2004, 10:17:31 pm
OOC: I love it when these forum battles happen. I can sit back and watch the entertainment. Not too close, I might be singed by all these flames  ;)

IC: Go...whoever wins...Yay!
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Post by: Draklar on August 27, 2004, 10:23:04 pm
is that conclussion of what I said?
Because I said \"I\'m a warrior true to myself and my life.\" Not that I\'m good or anything.

Nay, I could say Depth and FlippySeal seem to be following legacy of heroes. Of course few other guys.

Rest of you is bleh, it isn\'t what fantasy warriors of light used to be -_-
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Post by: Hadfael on August 27, 2004, 10:32:11 pm
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Originally posted by Icefalcon
Go...whoever wins...Yay!


Let\'s say that Draklar wins.
He won when he left the Defenders.
 :P And we won wisdom.
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Post by: Altharion on August 27, 2004, 11:43:42 pm
dont you have to do some heroic act to be called a hero?
i mean except write a backround story were you saved the world three times.


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No violence, standing back until evil attacks... all Aliathi\'s lies!


that\'s wrong imo.
Aliathi doesnt seek violence. If a follower is attacked by some sort then of course the follower is allowed to respond.

from what i have gathered aliathi doesnt stand for hunting down and slaying other people even if they were to be evil, but i doubt that any character here has yet attained the title of true evil, few are even evil. Yliakium has a justice system, a system which the citizen\'s there believes in, i personally do not like warriors that thinks they are above the law even if they do know right from wrong, and i do not think that normal citizen would sleep well at night knowing that there might be some lunatic wielding a sword, thinking he can bring anyone to justice.

of course i dont disagree with you fully Draklar.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on August 27, 2004, 11:50:13 pm
Draklar is back and the mean talking machine as before! My hero!  :D  :P

Childish new sig.

The point is, we can\'t test any of these arguments now ;(. And there are two points and both are right partially :) But being a paladin, lawful, almost makes you inheirt the fervor of point #1.

Again, there is no ultimate truth, so be on your separate ways. Time will tell if any is better.
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Post by: Sangwa on August 28, 2004, 12:08:09 am
Attacking or defending won\'t ever stop evil. Evil isn\'t something that can be destroyed, evil exists in the soul of every men.
Evil will cease at the same time that Good will, when all free souls perish. Let each of us follow what we believe, but without foolish objectives.
The discussion of your methods is futile and inevitable, a routine-like waste of time.

@lynx:Just because we in the Dark Empire aren\'t loud foolish egocentric idiots it doesn\'t mean that we are dead. I am sure you will realize your lack of sight soon.

@Draklar: So you now follow the path of light? I wish our opposite paths don\'t cross and if they do I hope we can fight with respect and honor.
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 28, 2004, 12:41:26 am
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Originally posted by Sangwa
Attacking or defending won\'t ever stop evil. Evil isn\'t something that can be destroyed


..says a member of Dark Empire, we will see...we will see..

As for this bickering over not attacking and heros, do what you want..no one can force you to live up to your name that is up to you..and you alone! I for one will dive into it all and if you want to call me a suicidal maniac another type of evil character looking to gain pride and respect from this world...then so be it..Atleast my intentions are honorable and atleast I am taking action..
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Post by: Sangwa on August 28, 2004, 12:47:04 am
The worst part is that we won\'t ever see. The battle between Good and Evil is eternal.
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Post by: FESFES on August 28, 2004, 01:28:31 am
Well when my vision of the world is complete there will only be one side, MINE.  Depth you where correct, I intend to make everyone in the world so stupid theyll listen to everything I say without thinking of fighting against me.
PS Depth wuts with ur sig? Did you leave your guild?
OT PS My deleted post was a joke dont take anything I draw seriously
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Post by: Empanado on August 28, 2004, 02:29:17 am
Oh, i\'m hearing voices talking about a big war, but i\'m afraid i can\'t see what you guys are doing, because i currently have dollar signs instead of eyes.
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Post by: seperot on August 28, 2004, 03:17:40 am
The best kind of hero is a dead hero which is what all shall who rise to challange evil claiming to be such a \"hero\"
..infact i laugh at your pathetic statments saying you are heros. People like you are no better then i seeking only glory and power to get things your way the ony difference is you belive its done by doing something \"good\" then reaping the rewards of the ignorent masses where the same person just with an evil faction sees the same opertunity by forcing the land under there cointrol. to rise up and call yourself heros are doomed to fail you will be consumed by your pettey greed for fame and power and succum to the depths of evil. take your great hero draklar taken by his self rightness and belive that he is a hero amongst men made this warrior succumb to evil and has alinged himself to fall once more.

all whould be heros come and try your faith and you will be suprised to find your pride soon vanashes at the prospect of power. all thouse \"peace\" convayers on the other hand stay in you house lock your doors and injoy a peacefull take over and your eventuall deaths.

as for mercs...im sure the sign of coin is a most promising thing and can work nicely to your advantage eh? ;) just remember if you do pick the losing side noone will be there to pay you at the end...
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Post by: Icefalcon on August 28, 2004, 03:28:13 am
Quite frankly, I believe whoever hires us will be the winning side. And, we aren\'t the ones who pick. People hire us, and we do our best. It is up to you who will win and who will lose...
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 28, 2004, 04:26:45 am
Ok, ok.

Evil will neither collapse on it\'s own, or go away after time.

I\'m a realist, so evil will never go away, no matter what you do. But you can destroy the servants of evil, to help control it\'s consumption of good.

The question is... do you destroy the servants when they come to you, or seek it out?
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 28, 2004, 06:44:35 am
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Originally posted by seperot
The best kind of hero is a dead hero which is what all shall who rise to challange evil claiming to be such a \"hero\"
..infact i laugh at your pathetic statments saying you are heros. People like you are no better then i seeking only glory and power to get things your way the ony difference is you belive its done by doing something \"good\" then reaping the rewards of the ignorent masses where the same person just with an evil faction sees the same opertunity by forcing the land under there cointrol. to rise up and call yourself heros are doomed to fail you will be consumed by your pettey greed for fame and power and succum to the depths of evil. take your great hero draklar taken by his self rightness and belive that he is a hero amongst men made this warrior succumb to evil and has alinged himself to fall once more.

all whould be heros come and try your faith and you will be suprised to find your pride soon vanashes at the prospect of power. all thouse \"peace\" convayers on the other hand stay in you house lock your doors and injoy a peacefull take over and your eventuall deaths.

as for mercs...im sure the sign of coin is a most promising thing and can work nicely to your advantage eh? ;) just remember if you do pick the losing side noone will be there to pay you at the end...


  If not a Hero to stop you...who else here will? See the problem here is you are a madd man, and your kind just thinks cuckoo..but..you will get a chance to prove your words worth when the time comes..
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Post by: AendarCallenlasse on August 28, 2004, 07:58:35 am
You people must really enjoy having me delete your posts.

Pointless arguements can be carried out through messengers, irc, or pms.  Keep them there.
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Post by: karakth on August 28, 2004, 09:31:10 am
Hmm it seems to me we have a lot of these:

*Pulls out a scroll from one of his deep pockets*

(http://www.magiclibrary.net/rarities/starter-eager-cadet.jpg)

OOC: Those guys are the first to die in a game of magic :P
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Post by: Draklar on August 28, 2004, 09:46:34 am
and we need more of those:
(http://cards.mtgnews.com/GF/USC/MTGC/7E/KNIZANT1.jpeg)

They turn out to be very useful in the start of the battle, and if they are valiant enough, they may get the blessing:

(http://cards.mtgnews.com/GF/USC/MTGC/7E/SERZACE1.jpeg)

and once Glory has been done, darkness will not stop them:

(http://cards.mtgnews.com/GF/USC/MTGC/JU/GLOOORY1.jpeg)

aye, glorious death it is :]
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Post by: Empanado on August 29, 2004, 02:24:09 am
Pffft...
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h/gamingetc.safeshopper.com/images/b10ms8f0.jpg)

Back on topic, again, perhaps?
Uh... erm... war, right... i\'ll let you guys get back on that. :P
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Post by: ForteX on August 29, 2004, 06:36:58 am
We, mercenaries, are willing to help. Just make sure to get the money ready. We will be glad to help just as much as we will be glad to get paid :D