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Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: mjateznik on August 29, 2004, 07:42:17 pm

Title: Klyros
Post by: mjateznik on August 29, 2004, 07:42:17 pm
I think there should be a skill for all klyros (wich they start with) the skill should be \"flying\" and by flying alot you train this skill and can fly more, futher and faster the higher level you got in the skill. The leanght you should be abel to fly should still not be a great distant but maybe on higher levels you could fly between 2 floors? atleast downwards (since thats alot more easier).

Well hope you guys like the idea! And hope you add Klyros to the game fast, cause im totally gona be a Klyros!

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Post by: Karyuu on August 29, 2004, 07:50:11 pm
Klyros wouldn\'t be able to fly for long periods of time without the use of magic, as their body structure does not permit it. Gliding downwards (and perhaps thus cutting down on fall damage?) is reasonable, but if you give the Klyros too much of an advantage over other races, Yliakum will be populated with nothing else.
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Post by: Tanyo on August 29, 2004, 08:27:17 pm
Yeah, I like Klyros a lot coz thay have wings, and I like WIngy thingys, but it will be not fair if thay will be able to do alll!
Personaly, If Klyros will be abale to train flying, endukhai (Cats) could be able to jump very height and pounce or Devils( Forgot name) will be able to teleport for short distance!  :))
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Post by: Kazorn on August 29, 2004, 08:43:39 pm
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Originally posted by Karyuu
Klyros wouldn\'t be able to fly for long periods of time without the use of magic, as their body structure does not permit it. Gliding downwards (and perhaps thus cutting down on fall damage?) is reasonable, but if you give the Klyros too much of an advantage over other races, Yliakum will be populated with nothing else.


dosent it say theyre able to fly for short periods of time somewhere?
also that advantage would be balanced by they being very low compared to other races on most stats, and due to their skeleton they probably be able to take alot less hits.

i think its a good idea klyros will not be able to fly long in the begining but the higher the level the longer they be able to fly
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Post by: Zeraph on August 29, 2004, 08:57:06 pm
What about the \"Fly\" Glyph? That probably means that we can Fly with magic I am assuming...
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Post by: Kazorn on August 29, 2004, 09:07:33 pm
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Originally posted by Zeraph
What about the \"Fly\" Glyph? That probably means that we can Fly with magic I am assuming...


true but it will proably only work a limited amount of time and then you have to purify it and theres a chance of fizzle when ya cast it too.

klyros however can fly without any fly glyph or pterosaouros or megaras or anything and will thus be able to fly more often than the other races.

perhaps the klyros could use the glyph to enhance their already existing flying abilitys.

however this thread is really about being able to improve your flying abilitys by flying often.
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Post by: THAPRINZE on August 29, 2004, 09:25:22 pm
klyros should be able to fly..because it just needs to use it wings.  But maybe klyros cant ride/fly creatures then, as an disadvantage.
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Post by: mjateznik on August 29, 2004, 10:08:19 pm
I think some people miss understood me.

I didnt mean that Klyros should be abel to fly realy far but only short ways and then they have to take new breath and rest (not rest like sit down but rather rest like walk) In the begining a klyros should just be abel to fly a few meters but as they get beter in the skill flying they will soon be abel to fly futher and futher but it will still not be any speak of long travels but rather a way to flee or to get to places where you normally cant (but with climb you can usually anyway)
I dont know how rare a level will be but i will try to put in perspetive anyway. on level 1 you cant even fly to the top of a 1 story building but on level 7 you will be abel to do this and on level 20+ you can fly up on parts of Laanx temple and you will need like level 90 to fly up on an other level.
Flying downwards on the other hand is alot easier because then you will just have to make yourself move slower and therefor not hiting the ground as hard.

Also Klyros bodystructure is surely built partly for flying it says in the text about Klyros that their skeleton is light and therefor very weak, weak skeleton will make klyros take more damage and therefor be one of the offsides with the race.

I do agree that klyros should have several things that balance em with the other races cause I will/would surely not enjoy being a Klyros as much if theres 5 other players who play as klyros where ever i turn my eyes.

The skill flying maybe should be named \"wings\" or so cause then it could also be used in giving the klyros beter swiming speed (cause as i has understood Klyros will use their wings to swim, or maybe im just wrong then ignore this part of the text)
Well i hope people like my idea and that klyros is launched fast.
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Post by: Drake on August 29, 2004, 10:58:44 pm
I guess that will take a while, as they aren\'t in CB unfortunously. And I doubt the next version will be done soon (if it ever gets done ;) ) Anyways, Klyros already have the no-heavy-armor disadvantage, which could be quite severe as the ultimate armours would be in there, I guess. It kinda depends on the armor itself, but the average heavy might be more than twice as good as medium (or something, I honestly have no clue how they\'re planning this). I don\'t think the armour will be devided into their classes equally anyway.
Anyways, getting better in flying does seem logically, as a player who just started wouldn\'t be able (<--(hint)) to do as much as more \'experienced\' players.
Perhaps it would be cool if Klyros could learn small tricks, like turning around rapidly in a glide or something.
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Post by: Cyberchu on August 29, 2004, 11:05:17 pm
Then what about the other races. You must maintain a balance.
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Post by: Icefalcon on August 30, 2004, 02:09:40 am
Yes, currently, the way it is described on the site, all races have certain advantages and disadvantages. If we give Klyros more advantages, we must also give all the other races more advantages. Leave it how it is...balanced.
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Post by: Syzerian on August 30, 2004, 06:04:59 am
I agree, leave it as it is. I feel that all races are balanced at the moment and changing one thing can massively alter everything else.

and Tanyo, you may want to make your sig just a little smaller >.<
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Post by: Zeraph on August 30, 2004, 06:17:53 am
Well I used to play Age of Mythology when it first came out & on the multi-player games before the first update the race fallowing the Egyptian god ?Ra? had an advantage because you could have more then one Pharaoh + farming benefits (Pharaoh can bless buildings so the make units extra fast & other things?) so everyone chose to be Ra because of the great advantages, well the devs of the game saw that it was unbalanced so in there patch the completely overcompensated & underpowered the Ra so that no-one (unless they were up for a challenge) would choose them? I just would not like this to happen to any races especially Klyros!

I\'d like a fly skill or maybe a really good bonus on spells using the \"Fly\" Glyph or something I vote yes...
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Post by: Xanaroth on August 30, 2004, 02:18:36 pm
Klyros should be left alone, they have a nice advantage: ability to fly short distances and to cut on their falling damage.

Somehow every1 seems to forget that klyros are the only race that is able to fly, and yet the only race that cannot wear heavy armor. So that means that klyros have a nice benefit, but in close combat they will always be on the shorter end.

When will you guys realize that the devs have done their homework??
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Post by: Kazorn on August 30, 2004, 04:08:27 pm
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Originally posted by Cyberchu
Then what about the other races. You must maintain a balance.


the devs already planned that the klyros will have disadvantages for flying like not being able to wear heavy armor and having a weak skeleton thus taking more damage, this thread is really about being able to improve your flying skill and start out as really bad fliers, so it should be be balanced and its kinda realistic to.
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Post by: THAPRINZE on August 30, 2004, 11:31:17 pm
everyone knows..that klyros ( should ) have disadvantages compared to its flying ability,  everyone knows that but everyone just pointed that out once more.. XD.  And the rest of the thread was just about the fact what the klyros would be able to do with it\'s flying skill.
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Post by: Seytra on August 30, 2004, 11:59:33 pm
All this has been heavily discussed in another thread, in which I have suggested a similar thing.

The thread is here:
http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=9128&boardid=11&sid=aede95ef3ac9bb9a7bfdecf6494eeb46

It has my reasoning and opinions on this subject, which haven\'t changed to date.