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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Kuiper7986 on September 09, 2004, 04:21:21 am

Title: Mp5 or Uzi?
Post by: Kuiper7986 on September 09, 2004, 04:21:21 am

(http://www.hkpro.com/image/mp5-1.jpg) (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/uzi/uzismg_b.jpg)

Hk Mp5-
Caliber: 9x19mm NATO
Weight: 2.54 kg  
Length: 680mm
Barrel length: 225mm
Rate of fire: 800 rpm
Magazines: 30 rounds
Effective Range: 100m

IMI Uzi-
Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: 3.7 kg  
Length (stock closed / open): 470mm / 650mm
Barrel length:  400mm  
Rate of fire: 600 rpm
Magazine capacity, rounds 25 , 32  20, 25, 32 20  
Effective Range: 200m

Hmm it depends. Do I want something \"technologically\" better at 100m or something a bit more simplistic but at 200m. The thing is at first glance the MP5 really beats the Uzi but the range I believe really lowers it a lot.

EDIT: Oh yeah I forgot, some people say that the Mp5 is the standard in which all others are judged. Than there are others that say the Uzi is the standard in which all others are judged...

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Post by: |Zidewinder| on September 09, 2004, 04:58:16 am

MP5, definitely... Why? Because it\'s in Counter-Strike. =D

P.S. Just curious, but are you actually buying one of those? Or just asking which is better?

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Post by: leji on September 09, 2004, 01:56:33 pm

MP5 or UZI ? Just wait till I can throw fireballs and you\'ll see that none of them is good Muhahahahaha !!!!

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Post by: snow_RAveN on September 09, 2004, 05:10:33 pm

id get the Mp5 if my country allowed guns :D

The mp5 is lighter than the uzi something you will remember when your carrying the weapon :D range ? 100 meters is preety far chances are that you would rarely face anyone ( who wants to kill you) further than 100 meters.

but what do you need a Smg for ? hunting ?

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Post by: leji on September 09, 2004, 05:48:15 pm

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Originally posted by snow_RAveN
but what do you need a Smg for ? hunting ?

Maybe to fish... or to hunt but only if you lack iron in your alimentation... :)

anyway, why did you post that stuff Kuiper7986 ???

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Post by: Kuiper7986 on September 09, 2004, 08:08:15 pm

I\'m just wondering that\'s all. I mean you have two firearms that are both saying that they\'re in which the standards are being made. But if your a buyer like the military or law enforcement, which one do you buy? Which one do you think is cost efficient and stuff?

Also I like firearms and learning about the evolution of firearms and I\'ve just always been curious on this kind of stuff.

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Post by: lynx_lupo on September 09, 2004, 08:28:15 pm

And you go ask a gamig community?!  :rolleyes:

From these 2 models here, the mp5 is a better choice from the little specs you showed. More compact and lighter, says a JA veteran :)
The ranges are just funny.

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Post by: TheTaintedSoul on September 09, 2004, 08:36:43 pm

When i saw the title i thought mp5 and uzi were two music formats i didn\'t know yet.... :)

Why not use them both each in one hand ;)

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Post by: DepthBlade on September 09, 2004, 09:24:47 pm

prefer me a PC 356, one in each hand to get the job...whatever job that is lol >.>

(http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/products/06/images/pc356_photo.jpg)

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Post by: Syzerian on September 09, 2004, 10:24:32 pm

MP5 definantly, its lighter, less kick back, and attach a silencer and a scope and nothing can stop you :)
MP5 is my all round favourite gun

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Post by: Magerranger on September 09, 2004, 11:55:33 pm

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MP5, definitely... Why? Because it\'s in Counter-Strike. =D

have you played CS?

If you have youd notice the terrorist SMG, mac 10 is very much like the Uzi its uncany

Some would say its just enough different so they wont get sued....

Go for the MP5 every time tho because unless your shootin somet at point blank its scatters and you spray - making it good for driveby\'s :)

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Post by: |Zidewinder| on September 10, 2004, 12:19:40 am

What are you talking about, the Mac10 looks completely different from the Uzi... =/

Obviously I have played CS otherwise I wouldn\'t be joking about makign a gun buying decision based on an obsession with it. =)

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Post by: FESFES on September 10, 2004, 06:39:53 am

I luuuuuuuv cs!  But somone is using my cd key in 1.6 so I gotta send in my cd key to steam to have it reset :(

Anyways, Id take the mp5 for sure its my third fav gun in cs.
1. Aug (sp?)
2. auto shotgun
3. mp5

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Post by: NewPie on September 10, 2004, 10:00:25 am

Naah. I prefer something more classic ^^

Suomi SMG

(http://www.saunalahti.fi/~ejuhola/7.62/suomi31.jpg)

Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: 4.6 kg
Lenght: 870 mm
Barrel lenght: 314 mm
Rate of fire: 900 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 20, 50 or 70 rounds
Effective range: 200 meters

This is a gun we used in ww2
Its manufacturing ceased in 1944 and it was good enough to be used to 1990s but then was replaced by assault rifles -_-

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Post by: Trianas on September 10, 2004, 10:20:00 am

hmm i dont have a favourite,

uzi, israeli make ,light urban weapon, usually scop apllicable

mp5, standard light smg, scostumisable

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Post by: SaintNuclear on September 10, 2004, 06:39:04 pm

It\'s kinda wrong that you go and ask wich is better, because there are many types of Uzis and you mentioned only one of them.

IIRC, there are 5 diffrent types of Uzis, each suiting for a diffrent purpose.

MP5 is a weapon designed for tactical operations in closed places. The Uzi you showed, however, is for semi-closed places (i.e. not open fields and such, where M16s are used, but suits for urban areas). With it\'s small length and superior range of fire, this specific Uzi is better than an MP5. However, in corridors and small rooms where range is not a problem, MP5 is better than this Uzi as there\'s a higher chance of hitting the target with it\'s higher rpm and accuaracy before it hides behind the wall.


And better in what way? In the desert? Both will be as useless as using your fists. In inter-galactic warfare perhaps?
Or what is cooler to hand on your wall? In this case I\'ll say Uzi, but that might just be a sudden patriotic burst.


Even if you\'re asking \'just generally\', you have to tell us in what category, or we might think you want us to tell you wich is better as a gardening tool (MP5), or wich is better for using to crack a rock (and then you have to say what kind of rock (this Uzi is better at breaking a flint, but MP5 is better at breaking a limestone). You should also show two items that are as similar as possible, and considering that there are various types of Uzis, you should choose the one that is the most similar to MP5.

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Post by: Magerranger on September 10, 2004, 09:53:26 pm

who said they look completely different?? cos in those pics they go but theres more than one model of uzi, a stouter version below will prove my point:

(http://www.army.lt/guns/gallery/U4.jpg)
UZI

(http://www.army.lt/guns/gallery/I17.jpg)
Mac 10

see wat i mean?

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and dont contest the images they are from http://www.army.it

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Post by: FESFES on September 11, 2004, 12:46:26 am

Ya they do look pretty alike but I dont really care....

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Post by: Niber on September 11, 2004, 01:58:08 am

The MP5 is a excellent choise.
The absolut greatest thing with it is it\'s recovery, you can actually aim it a lotsa thing during a burst, while other SMG\'s would lose controll.

Also it is relativly quite, but sound depressor should not be used on this model becouse it decreases the damage just a bit too much.


The Uzi is not my style, but yeah obviously blazing double uzi\'s through a crowd of ppl could make some harm  8)

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Post by: kbilik on September 11, 2004, 06:43:49 am

MP5 or Uzi? Nah...

(http://www.military.com/pics/SoldierTech_XM109-2.jpg)

This is more my style.

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Name:
Barrett XM-109 Sniper Rifle

Type of Equipment:
Sniper Rifle

Killer Features:
Fires 25mm low velocity HEDP ammunition  
Accurate out to 2,500 meters
46 inches long, weighs 33 pounds.
Components interchangeable with M-107 .50 caliber rifle
Incorporates BORS ballistic computer

From http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_XM109,,00.html?ESRC=soldiertech.nl (http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_XM109,,00.html?ESRC=soldiertech.nl)

25 mm... thats close to a caliber of 0.975 in.

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Post by: FESFES on September 11, 2004, 09:38:35 am

*looks at biceps* I got all the guns I need right here :D