PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: leinir on September 20, 2004, 07:29:30 pm
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And so, it begins! This is what we have been waiting for :D From the PlaneShift homepage (http://www.planeshift.it/main_01.html):
Our internal testing is going well, we fixed many bugs and improved the usability of our GUI. There are still areas to test, but we decided that the time has come to release CB to a subset of users that will help us testing. There will be a period of \"closed alpha tests\", starting from this Saturday (25 Sept.). The people included in the list of alpha testers is still to determine, we will pick some (10-15) of the most loyal fans. We decided to start with a set of players to avoid too many redundant bugs notifications. The next step will be to add another set of players (20-30). This can happen after one or two weeks after the first round started. None of the activities done in this closed test phases will modify the data of MB database (names, stats, crystals, items, etc...).
It\'s a great news for us and we hope also for you.
So, begin your nagging to get access ;D
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Just a warning to anyone who intends to come nag for access: It is a well known fact that in any project running closed-testing, the more you nag, the less your chances are. It\'s like asking to become a GM/MOD. The usual policy is \"you ask, and we put you on the blacklist\". :P
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Moogie just doesn\'t want any competition ;)
Well I suppose this means CB this even closer to release.
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Uhm...Why not compile the CVS and run your own \"closed testing\"?
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I am so happy that I may do something crazy to get access to CB early, like start making monster & Animal models + Cal3D Animations like crazy.
I wonder who is \"The Most Loyal Fan\"? :))
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*runs off to sell her soul* ;)
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Originally posted by karakth
Uhm...Why not compile the CVS and run your own \"closed testing\"?
cuz then you won\'t have the uber leet graphix
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Originally posted by karakth
Uhm...Why not compile the CVS and run your own \"closed testing\"?
They do not release the art so it isn\'t any fun... X(
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This is stupendous The kind of news I have been waiting for!
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What if we have some qualifications the devs might not know about?
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For this phase of testing it is more important that the people involved are well-known by the devs than having particular development/testing skills.
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Here is a screen of a Cal3D test I did on the new \"stonebm\" model that ships with the CVS...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/Zeraph/Objects/Not-so-uber-leet.jpg)
:D
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G*d dam !!
I just digged up my forum account, it is the real first very very good news I have been waiting for since....my last post...that is since ...err....a long time
I can already say, the whole Circle of Legends is waiting for the release ; keep on the good work devs !
And be careful when selecting your people, because infos too much spread around the web could simply \"kill\" your good work (as you said, the less we know, the more we enjoy after the release).
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That\'s good to hear!
Originally posted by dfryer
For this phase of testing it is more important that the people involved are well-known by the devs than having particular development/testing skills.
hmm...but well-liked? :D
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That is people like you Kiern ; look at your message counter...enough said ; you lucky guy ;)
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hmm...but well-liked?
Heheh, good point :)
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Heh, nice to see cb is that bit closer. Suppose I need to get my rear into gear sorting the guild stuff out. ;)
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cool cb isn\'t far away i guess :) after a couple of weeks it will be here i hope :p yay finally the news i\'ve been waiting for
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Well the sooner it goes into testing the better :)
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Thats great that CB is out in closed alpha. But i was wondering. Those of us that dont get to play it, will we be on lockdown from all the info like we have been for the past long time? Or will the testers be able to speak of what they see?
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Hooray for progress!!
So...the most loyal fans? Are you just going to pick the most popular or how is this going to work?
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They will do what they said: Pick the most loyal fans.
Mostly that\'s the folks like Moogie who are either on the boards or IRC most of the day. They don\'t just want a bunch of fan-boys running around looking at things. They want folks that are going to \'test\' the system by trying to climb walls and the like. They are probably going to open it up to the people that are current GMs/Moderators and a select few others.
I\'m just damn glad that it has got to this phase and am looking forward --->
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*sniff* I\'ll miss MB. All the fun adventures with my friends, collecting crystals, running up the walls, falling off the map, walking through walls, climbing into cages.
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if you need a linux tester, just ask....
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picked or not picked, not the less CB is close :)
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It doesn\'t matter if your picked so don\'t worry. Think about it this way, when they release it to the public it\'ll already have that many less bugs in it.
So its not a big deal if your chosen or not. It\'s not the end of the world. Anyways it says a week or two later, they\'ll add more people. So if you don\'t get chosen, calm down! :)
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Great news!
Keep up the good work devs! Of course, the real treat would also be to play with the devs, I think that would be the most fun... :)
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Well this is a welcome surprise, Congratz to the lucky few who manage to help the dev team find bugs and test CB!
You and the next group of testers will be the envy of us all :D!
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To Alpha testers: Could you at least share a few screenshots with us, mortals? =)
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Originally posted by Desnonroth
To Alpha testers: Could you at least share a few screenshots with us, mortals? =)
It\'s been said that screenshots and information will probably be restricted, and alpha testers might have to sign some sort of NDA. The only one who can give an official word on that, however, is Talad.
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well, congrats to whoever is chosen! at least *I* dont have to wonder if i get chosen, since im not exactly active :)
but if you want to have a tester for low-end hardware, i\'m your man. :) anyway, good work guys.
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hmmm... That\'s bad, because that restriction makes the await even more unbearable (
PS None of the activities done in this closed test phases will modify the data of MB database (names, stats, crystals, items, etc...). (C) Does that means that the crystals we found before will stay with us in future?
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Rumour tells of no conversion. Don\'t take my word on it.
Oh, and I don\'t think anything should be leaked at all. Even the smallest screenshot. Spoils the suprise for everyone else. :)
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i wish i could wonder if i would be pick im loyal but not realy active
news = progress = soon = :) = more 8)
i just can\'t wait !
(to alpha tester) have fun, kill stuff, and test!}
my membership into the Arcane Order is under conference and hopfuly will be choosen soon{more smilies :)}
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Hmm
Kada, Xordan, Cad, Aendar, Moogie, Draklar (jk), Kixie, Xenia, Hevrah, Golmir, Gronomist ...hmm I can\'t think of any others I would expect to be alpha\'s
Either way I rather be in the second batch or with the main group
To Devs: You guys rock...and are probably enjoying your popularity eh :P
To Alpha Testers: Don\'t do drugs, don\'t tell me anything and kill much buglike thingies (like Seperot :P )
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I hope this testing takes from somewhere between 2 - 10 weeks otherwise, too many good things at once = bad :(
When I saw this thread I was thinking \"OH no! Not now!\" heh
Hope you testers find all the bugs :)
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Originally posted by Waylander
Hmm
Kada, Xordan, Cad, Aendar, Moogie, Draklar (jk), Kixie, Xenia, Hevrah, Golmir, Gronomist ...hmm I can\'t think of any others I would expect to be alpha\'s
Either way I rather be in the second batch or with the main group
To Devs: You guys rock...and are probably enjoying your popularity eh :P
To Alpha Testers: Don\'t do drugs, don\'t tell me anything and kill much buglike thingies (like Seperot :P )
Once again, ol\' Monk slips under the radar. :P I don\'t think have time to be an alpha tester, anyway.
Yep.
They have enjoyed it and despised it too, at times. Fame has it\'s consequences.
*nods in agreement about everything but sep being an insect, he\'s a doggy ;)*
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Originally posted by Waylander
Hmm
Kada, Xordan, Cad, Aendar, Moogie, Draklar (jk), Kixie, Xenia, Hevrah, Golmir, Gronomist ...hmm I can\'t think of any others I would expect to be alpha\'s
What, no Blitzers? :-P It\'s a good thing you aren\'t making this call Waylander :).
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I am guessing that list you just posted is lacking the actual players that spend 24/7 ingame...those are just the known names..people like Hevrah, Kada, Agara, and other members should get the go ahead. Also other not so known players that will actually test..and if you have been here longer doesn\'t mean you should get the chance...it just means you signed up first. There is alot of people who signed up then left for like a year and just come back or post once a week or go ingame once a month. Then there is those players that have joined recently and dedicate their entire life to hanging out on P.S.
I am not trying to get myself in(I don\'t have the time ^^)..just don\'t want stupid things like your registration date and your name to affect other peoples chances who have spent that much more time.
EDIT: Monketh should be one on the list if he had the time to do so, he is well established roleplayer and has a love for it like no other ^^
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Woo-hoo!
(http://www.abfnet.com/forum/images/smilies/party2.gif)
Now at least have a more concrete answer for whenever someone asks that question that is always asked...
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Oh yes, definitely good news.
Unfortunately I haven;t been able to succesfully compile MB for ages so I\'m not really in a position to ask to help with the Alpha. (My Linux install now requires too many legacy libraries to compile MB)
I\'ll just have to hope that CB compiles nicely with the newer libraries and I\'ll see you all when the open-beta comes around :D
(http://www.cyfinity.com/temp/dance.gif)
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Will there be any Mac alpha testers?
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On the other hand, non-testing people will have more time hunting crystals and preparing for alpha...
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Very nice :D Good to see things are moving forward steadily.
Just out of curiosity, since the first phase of testing is going to be for dedicated fans, will the second be the same, or will it target a larger range of individuals to test out the extreme cases of hardware/OS (low to high end systems, Win 98-XP, different Linux distros etc.)?
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WOOT! CB! As I said..... Oct 28 Youll see :) (that would be the open CB date)
*gets in line to enter closed testing* hmm I wonder how far I am from the front.....
*looks ahead* O_O
*shoots himself in the head*
Oh and I could be the win xp service pack 2 tester :)
or the so cal tester, the 15 year old tester, the born ---MAY 26--- tester, the 5\' 8\" tester, the armenian tester, the tester named Ara tester, the metal loving tester, that one tester, the 10th grade tester................. :D
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Originally posted by DepthBlade
I am guessing that list you just posted is lacking the actual players that spend 24/7 ingame...those are just the known names..people like Hevrah, Kada, Agara, and other members should get the go ahead. Also other not so known players that will actually test..and if you have been here longer doesn\'t mean you should get the chance...it just means you signed up first. There is alot of people who signed up then left for like a year and just come back or post once a week or go ingame once a month. Then there is those players that have joined recently and dedicate their entire life to hanging out on P.S.
It so happens that the people who joined recently don\'t know the devs very well, and vice versa. Plenty of the old people however hang out with the devs every day. Besides, just because many don\'t feel like spending 6+ hours per day in MB, doesn\'t mean they\'re not around and it doesn\'t mean they\'re not dedicated and loyal to PS.
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Hang on.. so is this alpha testing for the beta release? In which case you would perform alpha testing then beta testing for the beta release?
OR is it alpha testing for the final game, in which you would perform alpha testing, beta testing then have the actual *full release*
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It\'s the closed testing before the Alpha version is released. Then eventually there will be a closed test before the Beta version is released, as well as there will be more closed tests before other major releases.
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I really feel your pain recently monketh, I spend hours ingame everyday lookin after things and people just seem to look straight through me when talking about things. ;( We should start a support group.
Great news, what everyone was talking about in chat last night makes more sense now =) I look forward to the release, Great news! =)
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why not throw a party for thoese who dont get in ?
its a win-win thing
15 lucky (insert word here) will get to spend a few days months , years ( lets hope not ) running around in a 15 men/women world. And the rest of us party
sounds preety good to me :D
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Who will take care for the beer @ the party?
Great......let\'s hope the testing will be a succesfull (and not time consuming ;) ) happening.
Can\'t wait to C what great work the devs deliveres to us....(just like all the rest of us :D )
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Besides, just because many don\'t feel like spending 6+ hours per day in MB, doesn\'t mean they\'re not around and it doesn\'t mean they\'re not dedicated and loyal to PS.
Sure, I would say that each and every guild member (of any guild btw) is already a real loyal person but... sure devs don\'t know everybody.
They simply can\'t take someone they don\'t see often ingame (me for instance)
On the other hand I\'m tempted to say \"hey I study computer science in 3rd year, I\'m admin on a french website\" blablabla but what\'s the need of it? I haven\'t played MB since something like november 2003.
Lots of people are in the same situation. I\'ll wait. Like 99 % of the people ;)
Note : If you need someone pretty reliable for the alpha, don\'t forget Sabrewulf, he was there long ago before most people
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Nice work everyone. You testers don\'t even think of telling us anything. I don\'t want to know anything when I first enter CB.
P.S. I proposed once, each guild to pick a dev for it\'s god. Imagine the fun :)
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I\'m just excited about the news of progress.
And yes please don\'t say anything about the test. I would hate to have info leaked that everyone got excited about but it ends up being bugged somehow and has to be completly changed for the public release. Plus I would just like to wait and be suprised when it comes out anyway.
Well great work everyone keep it up and good luck to whoever gets in the test :D
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Oh man. I haven\'t posted here in forever. Yes, good luck bug hunting to all those who do get in...even though I don\'t think you even know who you are yet. Of course, I could be mistaken. :p
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Aww just when I take a little break from CB they put out some news. Darn it, ah well atleast I know that when I fail I fail spectaculary so I cant fail :P.
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Originally posted by Mogura Originally posted by Desnonroth
To Alpha testers: Could you at least share a few screenshots with us, mortals? =)
It\'s been said that screenshots and information will probably be restricted, and alpha testers might have to sign some sort of NDA. The only one who can give an official word on that, however, is Talad.
It will be nice to get some screenshots from CB. Maybe devs will release some at some point. But it will be even better to play it (yes, play. not alpha test ;)).
So, I\'ll be around waiting patiently. I\'m still around. :D
Great job devs! and good luck with CB. :tup:
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LIKE OH MEE GEE! COUNT ME IN MOGGIE POGGIE! I WANT TO TEST LIKE OH MEE GEE. (Sarcasm) Why do beta tests? You guys act like it is the final product...makes me sick. Why even bother? Just let everyone play it..we have been waiting for a whole year almost for this to come out....you delayed itlike crazy. Should we be hyped about something most of us probably won\'t get to test? I am not.
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Originally posted by Ghosts|Jestal
LIKE OH MEE GEE! COUNT ME IN MOGGIE POGGIE! I WANT TO TEST LIKE OH MEE GEE. (Sarcasm) Why do beta tests? You guys act like it is the final product...makes me sick. Why even bother? Just let everyone play it..we have been waiting for a whole year almost for this to come out....you delayed itlike crazy. Should we be hyped about something most of us probably won\'t get to test? I am not.
We choose to do the beta test program for our own protection :-) It is better if 15 fans first weed out and find the most obvious bugs (but bugs that we devs still missed) before unleashing it on the PS masses and getting thousands of identical bug reports.
Greetings,
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Wonders what would happen if someone found a bug which would destroy the whole world and kept it to himself.
50 years from CBs realease DC (dark crystal) is just around the corner
Watcher: Hey I rule the world
Admins: Give the newbies a chance, we will overthrow you.
Watcher: NOOO I shall have my revenge just let me press this botton
Whole screen goes black message comes up
Are you sure you want to delete the world?
YES!!!
Microsoft has caused a error in planeshift world.exe planeshift will now close.
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Originally posted by DepthBlade
There is alot of people who signed up then left for like a year and just come back or post once a week or go ingame once a month.
.................. =/
Ahem, got a problem, little man? ^^
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Only a problem if per say those kind of people thought they deserved to be on the list more then other people X( little boy.
All and All I guess it doesn\'t really matter who they pick aslong as the work gets done, and the project moves on.
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As long as I get to play CB before I go crazy, Ill be happy :)
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Originally posted by jorrit
We choose to do the beta test program for our own protection :-) It is better if 15 fans first weed out and find the most obvious bugs (but bugs that we devs still missed) before unleashing it on the PS masses and getting thousands of identical bug reports.
Thinking about that gave me the idea of you releasing it in stages, like gmail....
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hmmm stages like, closed alpha test, closed beta test, open beta test then release. this would be like um every other reasonably well managed software project, yep the devs know what they are doing and it will be great when it\'s done
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yup the project is almost ready to go to the next release and i think that when cb is done things will go alot faster... i really don\'t care who gets to play cb in alpha test i mean we will all be able to play after a week or 2 meebie 3 or 4.... :p
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Originally posted by Efflixi Aduro
As long as I get to play CB before I go crazy, Ill be happy :)
I already have CB Madness! - I am going crazy & have a joyous sinking feeling because I know it is very close, but that I have to wait another 2 to 4 Weeks or more...
It\'s like \"Ya, I can Finlay play CB in 2 Weeks\" & then \"I have to wait 2 Weeks to play CB...\"
but actually I do not really mind much because the phone company cut my cable line & now they said that we will not be able to have cable anything until some time in October so now I am on free netzero Dialup... (AArrrrgggg..... ) sorry...
OT: Does anyone know any other free internet I could use that is available in Mid-West USA?
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as long as CB gets public quick I\'ll be happy.
I like planeshift at the moment but it\'s plain dull and we realy need fighting and so on with monsters.
And also I want those Big Swords :D :]
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I don\'t mind the whole closed alpha idea...
but I\'m not sure about the consecutive closed alpha idea...
One closed alpha makes sense, it\'s a privilege and a reward to loyal fans, so let them enjoy it.
Why the hell do they need to make another group?
Is it going to go in groups of 15 until all 250k+ accounts have been assimilated into CB? How many groups are they planning on making? It could be a very long time before commoners get to play CB if this is the case.
OT: I have Gmail... no idea what to do with a whole GB of storage though.
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No, the point is that with allowing groups in at a time, they can find the bugs easier. AFAIK, there\'ll be one more group after this one, and then if all goes well then it\'ll be public to everyone.
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Originally posted by Adeli
I don\'t mind the whole closed alpha idea...
but I\'m not sure about the consecutive closed alpha idea...
One closed alpha makes sense, it\'s a privilege and a reward to loyal fans, so let them enjoy it.
Why the hell do they need to make another group?
Is it going to go in groups of 15 until all 250k+ accounts have been assimilated into CB? How many groups are they planning on making? It could be a very long time before commoners get to play CB if this is the case.
OT: I have Gmail... no idea what to do with a whole GB of storage though.
The accounts aren\'t transfered. Only gemstones will be, and that\'s an \'if\'.
The next group will be roughly 20 people. Probably remaining GMs and Mods, and if there\'s room, oldbies and famous forum/irc personalities.
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Xordan cleared up my misunderstanding, there will only be two groups if all goes to plan? This is good. Thankyou Xordan.
You misunderstood me Monketh. Sorry. What I meant, was until every account holder had his/her turn at being a closed alpha tester, I am under no illusions that the accounts will be transferred. Thankyou for taking the time to correct me, sorry that you thought you had to, I should be clearer in future.
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I\'m VERY glad that the alpha test groups are starting small. You can\'t count the number of times we\'ve crashed the server so far. :) Imagine the chaos if the entire community were trying to play...
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I\'m VERY glad that the alpha test groups are starting small. You can\'t count the number of times we\'ve crashed the server so far. Imagine the chaos if the entire community were trying to play...
You mean imagine the chaos if the entire community (+ the others that just want to check it out) tried to create a character. (Internal joke... Character creation kinda makes the server go *pop* right now, and noone really knows why.) :)
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hm... Wasn\'t there a way to ask everyone to post bug reports only in one thread, so the people have chance to read what was before them, and not to post any repeats?
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*sigh*... I\'d like to get into the testing phase, but I am just a lowly newb, so that won\'t happen, so this is just another kick in the groin for me... but at least we know CB is closer than ever! :P
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Moogie is right, if they just released it to the public straight away, the devs will be overwhelmed with duplicate bug reports, the server would crash every 3 seconds under the pressure of burly dwarves and such on at the same time.... to some it up, the game would go like a spastic colon :p
Let the people with expertise in gameplay and bug finding do their work, the quicker they can the quicker we get on :D
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Originally posted by Gronomist
You mean imagine the chaos if the entire community (+ the others that just want to check it out) tried to create a character. (Internal joke... Character creation kinda makes the server go *pop* right now, and noone really knows why.) :)
looks like it may take longer then expected...
I wish for a anti-*pop* code but wouldn\'t begin to know were to start.
I know it is fare & all for the selected people to get into CB Alpha, but I just can\'t help feeling it wasn\'t fare, but it\'s only natural... probably would have been in it if I was here 2 or 3 years ago... I\'m going to contribute as much stuff to the game as I can so I\'ll be one of the Select Elite! It\'s just I think this game has a huge potential to become something great, but the community of people is already great in my eyes... :]
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Only two words... about time...
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My my... aren\'t we the cynic?
I agree about the community Zeraph.
If I had time, and brushed up on programming, I would volunteer my services... but uni keeps me really busy, and I\'m out of practise.