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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: RussianVodka on September 21, 2004, 09:34:47 pm

Title: Mercenary Guild Embassy (GUILD LEADERS READ!)
Post by: RussianVodka on September 21, 2004, 09:34:47 pm
http://mercenary.fragnetics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=357#357

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This is the embassy of the Mercenary Guild. Here you will be able to discus inter-guild matters.

This works like a \"Members Only\" section, the only people able to enter being high ranking Mercenaries, and \"Diplomats\" from other guilds. To make secret private discussions possible, you will only be able to enter sections that concern your guild.

The way you become a Diplomat, is if you are a leader, or are appointed by the leader of another guild. To be confirmed, the leader of the guild would have to PM a mod or post in the Main Hall, and post it on their guild forums (so we know that they are not an imposter. (If they want they can MP us to sign up on their forums and than PM us there.))

This Diplomacy section is good for settling inter-guild arguments, and just discussing topics in secret.


If you are a leader of another guild, please stop by our forums and complete what is stated above. If you are not a leader, please inform the those that are in command in your guild.

[To the mods] I know that there already is a Merc. Guild thread on these forums, but please don\'t take this one as a spam. The reason i created this new thread is to atract the attention of guild learers who otherwise would not stop by and check the previous thread. [/To the mods]
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Post by: lynx_lupo on September 21, 2004, 10:41:51 pm
Interesting. You know what to do next... ;)
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Post by: FESFES on September 22, 2004, 01:39:16 am
Hey my guild forums arent done yet so what should I do?
And great idea! I hope this works out but whats stoping the mercs from going into other guild sections that only two people from diff guilds should be seeing?
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Post by: RussianVodka on September 22, 2004, 02:06:11 am
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Originally posted by FESFES
Hey my guild forums arent done yet so what should I do?
And great idea! I hope this works out but whats stoping the mercs from going into other guild sections that only two people from diff guilds should be seeing?


If your forums arn\'t done, you just have to prove to use that you are leader of the guild. The reason we have that rule is to prevent some \"n00b\" from going on and saying \"Hey, im so-and-so, let me in!\" And about the Mercs being able to see all the threads, thats the point of it. It is called the Merc Embassy so that other guilds would be able to have secret conversations with us withought the need to PM every chamion. Think of it as a PM for the masses.
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Post by: DepthBlade on September 22, 2004, 03:27:29 am
Do you really think its a good idea allowing conversations between Leader\'s upon a forum? Why not do it on a IM? Especially if you plan to have it be secret and all..
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Post by: Kuiper7986 on September 22, 2004, 03:40:14 am
So...a form of government. In a loosely set way, it is considered a form of a government. You can deny it all the way but its fundamental ideals seem closely based to the ideals of the UN.

But hey I\'m for it!
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Post by: FESFES on September 22, 2004, 03:58:03 am
I think we should have a forum for all guild leaders where everyone (leaders) can read every topic. Not just two people.
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Post by: Waylander on September 22, 2004, 04:06:32 am
Heh, I wonder how long until the actual planeshift gouvernment is established ...

Anyways, looks like it might work out, personaly I would have a public room for all guild leaders...imagine the flame wars :D
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Post by: RussianVodka on September 22, 2004, 04:08:11 am
No, you dont understand. This is ment to discus things with the Merc. Guild In private. And withought the need to IM or PM every Champion. It has nothing to do with government other than that its diplomacy.
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Post by: FESFES on September 22, 2004, 04:20:15 am
Ah that makes much more sense now :)
I just might sart what I was thinking of though :)
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Post by: Kuiper7986 on September 22, 2004, 05:04:10 am
ahh okay I see now, sorry it was just confusing, thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by: Lavana on September 22, 2004, 08:49:49 am
hmm, but wouldn\'t that give the mercs a huge advantage over the other guilds?
The mercs would know everything and the rest of us would be left in the dark.  And good guilds don\'t like being in the dark, as they prefer the light XD ;)
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Post by: lynx_lupo on September 22, 2004, 10:59:51 am
*yawn* It\'s just a *MERC* *DIPLOMACY* section, not a gathering ground for all the leaders and certainly not a confession room.
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Post by: Levski on September 22, 2004, 11:41:19 pm
So what happens if someone hires you, gives you potentially dangerous secrets such as defensive line formation, then their enemy pays you more, and you tell them?  Rather, would you tell them?
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Post by: RussianVodka on September 23, 2004, 12:10:47 am
I thought of that posibility, and this is how it plays out.

1. Enemy pays us forthe secrets.
2. Enemy wins battle.
3. Those who hire us will never do it again, seeing as we lost.
4. Next time someone wants to hire us agains that enemy, all they have to do is show that we sold our secrets.
5. We loose all business.

So, it is better for us to play fair.
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Post by: Edooo on September 23, 2004, 07:31:00 pm
Correct me if im wrong, but i think this is somewhat like the UN? since one person represents the whole guild? im a little confused on what this is for, is it just for tmg? or is it like a gathering for all guild leaders to discuss topics in private?
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Post by: Empanado on September 23, 2004, 07:57:44 pm
Aagh! This is for the Guild Leaders, to discuss things with US. (Employment, payment, etc)
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Post by: Caed on September 23, 2004, 08:03:53 pm
Is it really so hard for some people to understand? All this thread is, is a place where guild masters can hire the mercenary guild or send diplomats to inquire about things that may come handy if they think they might hire the guild later. However, Klyaska wishes for it to be private, there is a simple but deadly flaw in this plan, this thread isn\'t private, I suggest you get a mirc channel somehow, or for private hirings where the hirer wishes to remain anonymous you should use an emailing system. but this thread would work fine for open, unhidden hirings.

What on earth could have made some people think that this thread has in any way got anything to do with the UN? I am seriously confused at your post Edooo, like the UN because one person represents the whole guild? what has one person representing the whole guild got to do with the UN? Klyaska doesn\'t represent the whole guild, he isn\'t even on the governing body of the guild, he is a captain. Please read the earlier posts that Klyaska posted, you will find that this is NOT a gathering for all guild leaders or the thread would be named something like \'The Great Alliance\' or \'The Guilds Politics\' and this thread isn\'t private!

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Post by: RussianVodka on September 23, 2004, 08:15:30 pm
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Originally posted by Caed
Is it really so hard for some people to understand? All this thread is, is a place where guild masters can hire the mercenary guild or send diplomats to inquire about things that may come handy if they think they might hire the guild later. However, Klyaska wishes for it to be private, there is a simple but deadly flaw in this plan, this thread isn\'t private, I suggest you get a mirc channel somehow, or for private hirings where the hirer wishes to remain anonymous you should use an emailing system. but this thread would work fine for open, unhidden hirings.

What on earth could have made some people think that this thread has in any way got anything to do with the UN? I am seriously confused at your post Edooo, like the UN because one person represents the whole guild? what has one person representing the whole guild got to do with the UN? Klyaska doesn\'t represent the whole guild, he isn\'t even on the governing body of the guild, he is a captain. Please read the earlier posts that Klyaska posted, you will find that this is NOT a gathering for all guild leaders or the thread would be named something like \'The Great Alliance\' or \'The Guilds Politics\' and this thread isn\'t private!

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Thank you!
Just one think that you don\'t understand is that the \"Main Hall\" room is the only one that is public.
All the others are private, and can not be seen unless you are permited to post in them.

Edit: Oh, and i\'m a Champion, that means i am part of the decision making body of the Mercenary Guild. And, i have already made part of the embassy, that is not visible to those who are not wanted there. Remember, just because you can\'t see it doesnt mean its not there.
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Post by: Edooo on September 23, 2004, 08:31:51 pm
whoa dude...chillax..my bad i didnt understand, its not like you havent ever misunderstood something....so..now correct me if im still wrong..

this thread is for people to come and discuss plans with tmg? such as when they will hire or something? and caed is saying we should use an email system so that it stays private? hm... i think i understand
*scratches head*

when i said it was like the un, i meant because it was for the leaders, i didnt know that it was for tmg leaders to discuss stuff about tmg like hiring and battle plans and what not.......NVM i get it..kinda..my bad

...chillax
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Post by: RussianVodka on September 23, 2004, 08:40:17 pm
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Originally posted by Edooo
whoa dude...chillax..my bad i didnt understand, its not like you havent ever misunderstood something....so..now correct me if im still wrong..

this thread is for people to come and discuss plans with tmg? such as when they will hire or something? and caed is saying we should use an email system so that it stays private? hm... i think i understand
*scratches head*

when i said it was like the un, i meant because it was for the leaders, i didnt know that it was for tmg leaders to discuss stuff about tmg like hiring and battle plans and what not.......NVM i get it..kinda..my bad

...chillax


You are right, except that a email system is time consuming and useless. We already have secret rooms, that you will not hear about unless the other guild tells you. We will keep the rooms, and what goes on in the confidential(sp?).
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Post by: Edooo on September 23, 2004, 08:47:51 pm
so... for instance:

fes will have his own thread that cannot be viewed by any one else unless granted permission or unless they are a tmg champion?

can i be a diplomat? or is it manditory to be a guild leader?
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Post by: Caed on September 23, 2004, 09:04:52 pm
It said earlier that you have to be a guild leader, I suppose you could be an ambassador if your guild leader specifically and publicly announced it \'shrug\'

Hey, Klyaska, on the guild website, members section you are in the commander row... Needs an update?
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Post by: Edooo on September 23, 2004, 09:10:57 pm
ok, so fes could say \"Let Edooo share diplomat abilities please\" and i would be able to enter the HV thread?
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Post by: RussianVodka on September 23, 2004, 09:13:50 pm
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Originally posted by Edooo
ok, so fes could say \"Let Edooo share diplomat abilities please\" and i would be able to enter the HV thread?


Yes.

And website needs updating.
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Post by: Edooo on September 23, 2004, 09:26:19 pm
your website? or mine?
*sigh* when will kv ever finish the forums
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Post by: RussianVodka on September 23, 2004, 10:14:02 pm
Mine
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Post by: RussianVodka on September 29, 2004, 01:26:44 am
bump
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Post by: Icefalcon on September 30, 2004, 12:03:53 am
Thanks to Klyaksa for setting this up without me. I just sat back and watched for once!  :)) Amazing. Now all he needs to do is update the site for me. (hint hint)  :D