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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Enter_the_Xero on November 08, 2004, 01:53:14 am
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I was just wandering what do you think is better a Computer, an X-Box, or a PS2. If you disagree with someone else or wanna tell us your favorite: please give a detailed reason to why you picked one with some proof or something to back it up.
My faworite would be a PC,
They has the letast graphic cards which delivers the latest and the best graphics and FPS rate. They have the fastest processors and support the letest high quality sound card for the most realistic surround sound experience ever.
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I agree. PC all the way !!! For the same reasons too. I also like x box alot
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PC, it has so many more advantages than a console. It can have the best of everything, giving great performance and quality in games, it is easily upgraded, and you can do loads of other things on it like typing, chatting, info gathering, etc.
Yes, it costs more, but then, it\'s worth it :)
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PC
is there even a question?
Even with Linux running on an x-box or modded PS2 it doesnt even come close to a PC.
About the only thing that is better on a console then a PC is that the developers can develop for one set of hardware, not x numbers of hardware, which in theory should make it easier to develop for, in theory.
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Yes it is unfair to compare pcs with consols. But as for consoles, Gamecube all the way!
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I agree, i enjoy the GCN much more than PS, and i wont touch a X-... you know what it is..
one thing that dissapoints me is the lack of titles compared to the other systems the GCN gets.. but ah well, i have fun playing P.N.03 anyway.. i dont really play much anything else (on consoles)
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Originally posted by Slatz
I agree, i enjoy the GCN much more than PS, and i wont touch a X-... you know what it is..
Ah! Someone who agrees with me on Gamecube!!! Thats a first...
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^^ actually, im almost certain that hardware wise, the GCN is better than PS2 and X-... although i could be wrong, even if it\'s not, i still like it better and nobody can convince me otherwise ^^
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Linux on a console?
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all I have to say is that the PC is more versatile than the PS2 or XBOX making it the best choice.
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Only thing about PC\'s thoough is me and my friends are always complaining who has the best comp but with consols I dont need to deal with it :D
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I dont think PC\'s are a fair comparison vs consoles, its like comparing apples to oranges...
And yes, you can get a linux kit from sony that includes a harddrive and some other stuff.. why they had the harddrive out for the linux kit long before ffxi is beyond me..
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I think installing linux (at least Gentoo linux) on the box is a bit easier. You do need to get some special chip, but a whole kit for the PS2 sounds more complicated. If I had the time and money I would get a box simply to install gentoo on.
all I have to say is that the PC is more versatile than the PS2 or XBOX making it the best choice.
Agreed, though it is also better because I don\'t need to buy a new one every 3-4 years. Consoles get out dated, my computer doesn\'t.
:emerald:
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well.. thats partially true.. whereas your consol becomes outdated every 3-4 years, your pc ..at least, parts of it.. are outdated every 6-12 months.. so instead of buying a new computer, you only buy the part that is old/slow/whathaveyou..
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and personally, i use Mandrake Linux, used to do redhat till i got a message saying \'we dont play mp3s due to copyright laws\'... or something to that effect.. so i switched.. i know i could have installed a new version of xmms or some other program, but simply put: if something that basic isnt part of the installation, forget it.. ill just go somewhere else that has it.. i find mandrake linux much better to use, dont ask me why, i just like it ^^
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Exactly. That way I never have to suffer with an outdated system.
Also, there is an (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/images/ps/edit.gif) button, so there is no need to double post.
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1. GAMECUBE OWNS!!!
2. Yes you can run linux on a console...here are a 2 links, google search for a ton more.
X-Box Linux (http://www.xbox-linux.org/)
PS2 Linux (http://playstation2-linux.com/)
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forgive my double post ^^ i tend to do first: what im used to, and second: whats faster for me lol
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First off, you can\'t compare PC\'s and consoles.
As far as consoles, all three consoles have games that I enjoy playing, except for x-box which all it really has is Halo which really isn\'t all that great.
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Okay, firstly where did you all get this strange idea that you can\'t compare a PC to a console? Why not, tell me in 50 words or less, why a comparison is not possible.
There is nothing stopping a comparison, no reason to i try and stop it.
Thesedays, consoles are mini PCs, and very powerful ones at that, they can do many things a PC can. A console is no longer an 8-bit device purely for games. You could run a business off a console with the right programs.
So that sillyness out of the way...
1. PC is by far greater, the only aspect it loses to a console is gaming, though First Person Shooters, Real Time Strategy games, and Role Playing Games, are far superior on a PC. It is much faster for one, and easier to configure to your tastes. Multiplayer was more fun on a PC (until the console networks), but easier on a console.
2. Playstation 2. Reason, Final Fantasy series! (don\'t even mention Crystal Chronicles, or Tactics Advance). Also a great selection of games, and IMO the only system to tap all it\'s resources in game production, it was inferior to the N64, but still produced better games.
3. X-Box (hear the cries of the Linux people?), this is easily the most versatile console, regardless of your thoughts on Microoft. No longer do we need to play games with horrible soundtracks, why you ask? Upload your own I say! It is much faster than the PS2, but the games on the PS2 are superior. Has a big internal HD, with the option of buying a separate HD, none of the others have the internal. This negates the use of memory cards, IMO a good thing! Here, PS2 cards were $60... that\'s almost as much as a game.
4. Gamecube, I don\'t like this console. The only good things Nintendo ever did were the NES and SNES (Both had Final Fantasies on them!) The games on those consoles far surpass anything today IMO. Also Zelda! That\'s how it made my list.
I compared PCs with Consoles, deal with it.
Why would you put Linux on a PS2?
Oh well, to each his own.
-Tyralus Shadowdancer
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I own a PC, Gamecube, and an N64. I like this combination because just about any spectacular game out there will be availible to me. GC games are good but they never see the PC world, any X-Box or PS game worth buying will most likely be on PC as well, the keyboard and mouse is better than ANY game controller, and I can still play odd classics on my N64, like F-Zero X and Perfect Dark.
FYI, GTA and GTA:VC on PC is much better, not to mention a Multiplayer option availible from a 3rd party. Multi Theft Auto (http://www.mtavc.com/)
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Heh, GTA on PC is terrible, the controls are much better on a console, unless you have a game pad? Multitheft Auto was horrible, buggy and pathetic... People gain magical invulnerability every now and then.
I already stated what games PC does well. Between my brother and I, two PCs, PS2 and X-Box, not to mention our SNES and NES.
My friend has a PS2 controller adapter for his PC, only that way, would it be good for all game. PS2 controller is IMO perfect for many games.
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Sure a console is a mini-pc.. but a pc isnt specifically made for gaming, it could be, but thats not its purpose.. a pc\'s purpose is to do pretty much anything from database manipulations, to programming, to graphic design, to finances, to being an alarm clock..
a console is a mini-pc with only one purpose: play games.. if we stick with products that are similar, consoles, we would have a better comparison.. throw a pc in the mix, and pc automatically wins, there is no comparison, it simply can do more than a console can..
and for GCN, play P.N.03, i like it.. perhaps you will too
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I did some research
Rrocessor Speed,
PS2: 300 Mhz
X-Box: 733 Mhz
PC: 4000 Mhz
RAM,
PS2: 32
X-BOX: 64
PC: 4,096
RES,
PS2: 720 * 480 ?
X-BOX: 1920x1080
PC:2048x1536
Also a normal tv only show +/- 30 FPS and around 600 * 500 res. A computer can do err 400 FPS?
What does high resolution do good in video games? That is a very easy question to answer: It gives more detail and allows you to spy enemies that are far far away.
GTA3 PS2 VS GTA3 PC ARTICLE: http://www.gta3.com/?zone=pcdifferences
MODERN SUPER COMPUTERS 4 U 2 BUY: http://www.alienware.com
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Originally posted by Adeli
People gain magical invulnerability every now and then.
Thats probably because your internet connection sucks. ;)
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X box beat PS2 everytime...o ya so true woot!!! :))
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Yes go Xbox and its shoe controler...nuff said....PC, PS2, XBOX in that order
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Well if consoles are to be compared with the PC then the price should be compared as well. Like somebody said a computer get a little old after 6 months while a console lasts much longer. Still a PC costs almost 5 or 6 times as much as an xbox or ps2, that\'s quite a big difference.
Of course PC is superior to the others but it\'s at another price level so it\'s quite normal. Xbox with a chip rules and the controllers are not as big anymore. I guess some people only look at the big an old ones so they can say Xbox sux :P
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Originally posted by Enter_the_Xero
Rrocessor Speed,
PS2: 300 Mhz
X-Box: 733 Mhz
PC: 4000 Mhz
RAM,
PS2: 32
X-BOX: 64
PC: 4,096
RES,
PS2: 720 * 480 ?
X-BOX: 1920x1080
PC:2048x1536
Screw how powerful it is, if there are no worthwhile games on the system, there is no point.
And I am still not sure how you can compare a console and a PC, a console has set specs while everyone\'s PC is different, on the console everyone sees the game with the same graphics, while on a PC you can run the game at full power or tone down the graphics for a slower computer. If you want to compare PCs and consoles then I suggest you compare AMD and Intel right next to X-Box and PS2.
And here\'s a question, what \"EXCLUSIVE\" games are on your favorite system?
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i own all 3 latest game consolse along with alot of the older stuff.....:D
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PC:
+ Easy to be modded / upgraded
+ Not made by Microsoft
+ Open for the user to do whatever he/she wants
- The games have to be programmed to support as many combos as possible, thus the kick ass 3D graphics get a hard hit
- Not made for any specific things in general, mostly a normal computer to do some calculations that varies
X-Box:
+ All games are programmed to the max for the stuff that\'s in it, thus giving good graphics on a not-so-good card and CPU
+ Small, if you compare to ATX or Hightower
+ Video out making it good for media machines
- No good Desktop PC if you don\'t hack in a keyboard
-- To unlock the real features which makes a X-Box worth the money, you have to screw it open and add chips. VERY bad
PS2:
+ Many many games
+ Same as X-Box, games trimmed to the content of the PS2
+ Very small compared to a ATX
- Chip, but not as bad as on the X-Box here
- Can\'t be used as a desktop computer
- Very old
Summary
Desktop: PC
Why?
It\'s very easy to customize to give you the specific preformance for your wallet
Console: X-Box
Why?
PS2 is very old but has a lot of games, XBox is very like a PC in hardware which makes it a very good game machine. If you chip and put in a big harddrive it can also be the multimedia center in the house
blue out
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If you\'re gonna throw specs at us, at least throw us the specs for all three systems (x-..., ps2, AND GCN)... im not referring to anyone in particular, this is for anyone..
and ive noticed many people neglecting to even mension the GCN..
let the flames begin..
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Bleh, if you\'re throwing specs into it, I could just that that a 70teraflop supercomputer pwns everything. (which it does :) )
It\'s enjoyment factor which counts :) And I get more enjoyment out of my pc then I do a console :)
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Originally posted by Melbourne
Originally posted by Enter_the_Xero
Rrocessor Speed,
PS2: 300 Mhz
X-Box: 733 Mhz
PC: 4000 Mhz
RAM,
PS2: 32
X-BOX: 64
PC: 4,096
RES,
PS2: 720 * 480 ?
X-BOX: 1920x1080
PC:2048x1536
Screw how powerful it is, if there are no worthwhile games on the system, there is no point.
And I am still not sure how you can compare a console and a PC, a console has set specs while everyone\'s PC is different, on the console everyone sees the game with the same graphics, while on a PC you can run the game at full power or tone down the graphics for a slower computer. If you want to compare PCs and consoles then I suggest you compare AMD and Intel right next to X-Box and PS2.
And here\'s a question, what \"EXCLUSIVE\" games are on your favorite system?
No good games? No good games?!! NO GOOD GAMES!!!!!! ARE YOU OUT OF YE MIND???!!!!?!?!?!?!
Doom3
Hitman 3
Halo
Unreal Tournament 2004
Tom Clancy\'s Splinter Cell: Pandora Tommorow
Max Payne 2
Morrowind
GTA Quadrilogy
Half Life Platinum (with trillions of addons)
Half Life 2 (soon)
Painkiller
THERE ARE INSANE AMOUNT OF GAMES FOR A PC
A PLATFORM IS JUST A LOW OUTPUT VERSION OF A PC DESIGHNED FER POOR PEOPLE!!!!!
I played GTAIII on PC and then tried it on a PS2 and it looked bad, very very bad.
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I honestly havent heard of half those games.. and havent played the others.. if they are only on x-... ill never play them anyway...
im perfectly content with my GCN..
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Originally posted by Slatz
and ive noticed many people neglecting to even mension the GCN..
let the flames begin..
Its not even in the thread title ;)
Anyway, I\'ve never played a Gamecube before, so I dont have an opinion on that system.
As for the rest, its seems kind of pointless to group the PC with them, as both the XBOX and PS2 are not new systems anymore. They become old technology just like a computer does. But PC is obviously superior, it is always going to be more versatile (and more expensive :P)
As for the PS2 and XBOX, personally I prefer the PS2 due to the selection of games available for it.
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Originally posted by Icefalcon
Yes it is unfair to compare pcs with consols. But as for consoles, Gamecube all the way!
Pc all the way... though more expensive than a... than a..... than something expensive!
lol! gamecube ownz because it has Zelda :P:P:P
XBox ownz too.....
come to think of it they all own
all have strengths and weaknesses...
xbox- lack of titles??!! maybe.. but hardwarewise is much more capable than teh other systems!!
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GAMECUBE WHOOO!!!! for most original and classic games. Many which are: metriod prime 1 & 2, wind waker, the new zelda, paper mario, vietiful joe, mario party, twin snakes, star fox, sunshine, pilotwings.... the list goes on
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Dude pc would kill all the systems but out of the sysems... GAMECUBE all the way :)
You just cant beat Zelda, Metroid, F-Zero, Mario, Starfow, ect.
Iv said it before and ill say it again. Ill never buy a non-nintendo console unless they go out of busness.
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Originally posted by Enter_the_Xero
No good games? No good games?!! NO GOOD GAMES!!!!!! ARE YOU OUT OF YE MIND???!!!!?!?!?!?!
What I meant by that is, that everyone puts up specs for the systems saying how much better one system is then the other, while a system can be the most powerful thing in the world while all the games on it might suck. The point is there is no point in comparing processer speed, what you should be comparing is the games.
And My question again:
What console \"EXCLUSIVE\" games are on your favorite system?
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Boo to consoles...I don\'t like them...PC got all I need...the only console I think is worth buying/playing is GameCube since it got Niintendo games on it...and they are very good games...
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Originally posted by John_Thazer
since it got Niintendo games on it...and they are very good games...
God bless Mario :D !
T.H.E B.E.S.T. !
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the best is pc couse it is upgradable
BUT it is also the most costly!
i had mine custom made bye a friend,
with $1000 in parts.
i got a really good graphics card.
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Originally posted by John_Thazer
Boo to consoles...I don\'t like them...PC got all I need...the only console I think is worth buying/playing is GameCube since it got Niintendo games on it...and they are very good games...
i think the only console werth buying is x-box and for one reason only, it got\'s halo 2!
BUT at the same time pc got\'s half-life 2!
(if ya never herd of those game check out bungie.net
and half-life2.com for pics and videos!
they are going to be the best games of all time)
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No need to double post, that is what the edit button is for. I also think most people have heard of those 2 games expecially since there is another thread in the same section discussing which one is better that seems pretty active.
There are good games made exclusivley for each system, I think peoples favorite console just falls into whatever one has the exclusive games that they like to play.
Gamecube = Mario and Zelda etc
X-Box has Halo
PS2 has Gran Turismo
Myself I like racing games and I like the feel of the PS2 controller so when it comes to consoles I tend to like PS2 a little better even though it isn\'t the most powerful system or whatever, but when it comes down to everything the PC owns all of them. :D
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Speaking of GameCube games... have you seen/heard of/played \"The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age\"? I heard about it at CAD (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archives&date=last) but thought it was a joke.
You seriously play as hero wannabes who tag along with the fellowship... I saw it today... made me laugh.
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Heck what microsoft, sony, nintendo, and sega should do is just make one super console. I\'m sick and tired of wanting to play games that are on consoles that I don\'t own. I\'m not going to shell out $300 or more because these developers are too greedy to band together and face the fact they will always be competing untill they just unify to one console. Plus this super console would be the best selling electronic device ever conceived no doubt. Actually scratch that, they should all go out of business and just develop games for PC, the bastards.
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Originally posted by Boldstorm
Gamecube = Mario and Zelda etc
X-Box has Halo
PS2 has Gran Turismo
What he meant to say was:
Gamecube = Mario, Zelda, Metriod, F-Zero, Starfox, Harvestmoon, donkykong *gets lazy*
X-Box = Halo
PS2 = Gran Turismo
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Anyone happen to have halo-2 and xbox live? caus if so i wanna play against you
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Originally posted by dannythompson
Heck what microsoft, sony, nintendo, and sega should do is just make one super console. I\'m sick and tired of wanting to play games that are on consoles that I don\'t own. I\'m not going to shell out $300 or more because these developers are too greedy to band together and face the fact they will always be competing untill they just unify to one console. Plus this super console would be the best selling electronic device ever conceived no doubt. Actually scratch that, they should all go out of business and just develop games for PC, the bastards.
And this would cut compainies profits incredibly. Ok so you sell a system for $300 when they cost $200+ brand new? Where is the profit when this has to be split 3 ways. Also since alot of households will buy more then one system then each company loses out. Also each company sells their own games made by their own company or that they have exclusive rights to or even are available on all 3 consoles, well now only one copy of a game is being sold, so they lose out.
Plus think about all the jobs that would be lost if you did this. There would be no need for marketing the system as heavily so you would lose those jobs. With all 3 companies developing for one system not as many jobs would be needed in each company for development so you would lose those jobs. And there will not be as many consoles being made in total so you would lose a ton of manufacturing jobs.
I am not even going to get into how the competition forces the companies to try and produce better games so they can out sell each other.
In general the competition is good and I don\'t want it to stop.
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Originally posted by Boldstorm
And this would cut compainies profits incredibly. Ok so you sell a system for $300 when they cost $200+ brand new? Where is the profit when this has to be split 3 ways. Also since alot of households will buy more then one system then each company loses out. Also each company sells their own games made by their own company or that they have exclusive rights to or even are available on all 3 consoles, well now only one copy of a game is being sold, so they lose out.
Plus think about all the jobs that would be lost if you did this. There would be no need for marketing the system as heavily so you would lose those jobs. With all 3 companies developing for one system not as many jobs would be needed in each company for development so you would lose those jobs. And there will not be as many consoles being made in total so you would lose a ton of manufacturing jobs.
I am not even going to get into how the competition forces the companies to try and produce better games so they can out sell each other.
In general the competition is good and I don\'t want it to stop.
It\'s called a merge and the only people who would \"lose thier jobs would be the manufacturers. Frankly thats too bad and they have many other jobs they could do other than assemble the console.
If the companies merged and made one super console it would probally go for over 400 bucks and I would be fine with that. Thats still WAY cheaper than it costs to buy all the systems nowadays.
If these companies made a superconsole it would probally be in every home of every person who previously owned an xbox, gamecube or playstation 2. Then just because of the sheer media buzz, thousands of people who have never previously owned a system would go out ot buy this console. The profits would be split 3 (or 4 if sega joined in too) ways evenly (or however the companies agree to).
Compition for making games isn\'t a bad thing btw. Thats a good thing. I\'d rather see them fighting for better games than fighting over peices of plastic and invisible copyrights.
I mean seriously boldstorm, your argument is completely false and unstanding.
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Umm yeah ok.
Listen danny as soon as you have any concept about how employment structures, competition, profit/loss company mergers or general business work then you can tell me my arguement is completly false and ummm \"unstanding\".
It has been proven that Monopolies are not good for the economy or for employment or for that matter quality of product, but since you are such a Business Whiz you seem to think that this Monopoly would somehow be diffrent. ?(
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X-... has halo 2?? woopee... its not that great of a game.. i mean come on.. how many times can you possibly make a shooter game? wolfenstein did that way back when, doom contiued doing that, marathon did that, any of the unreal games... is that many iterations of the same thing really necessary? i get enough pleasure out of shooting stuff with P.N.03.. its all i need.. i run, i jump, i dodge, and i shoot.. i got a few cool tricks up my sleeves with the energy drives.. anyway.. GCN all the way.. as i said before PCs just arent comparable to these systems.. apples and oranges.. apples and oranges..
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Where did that saying come from? You can compare anything if you want. you can compare apples and pears. They are both fruit after all.
Okay, what is P.N.03? Everyone talks about it.
Boldstorm is right, sorry Danny, but he is. How would you like to be unemployed because your company merged? Finding jobs isn\'t as easy as you seem to think.
Also, monopolies are never a good idea, in fact they are illegal here in Australia, it is seen as unfair advantage.
Let\'s do a hypothetical here...
Sony employs 200 000 in it\'s console branch, Nintendo have 100 000, and Microsoft have 300 000. Here we have 600 000 people working to produce/market three different consoles. If they merged... the maximum need would be say... 300 000. Meaning only half the employees keep their jobs.
How can you say 300 000 unemployed is worth you saving a couple hundred dollars on a console... If it is that hard to buy them, don\'t?
If each company made $100 million in sales... when they merge, there\'d be around $200 million between three... Because many people buy more than one of the three major consoles... but nobody would need to buy three superomniconsoles.
(These numbers are pure fabrication)
Post Script: If there was a monopoly... the console would cost around $2000, simply because they can charge that much, as there is no alternative.
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Originally posted by Adeli
Post Script: If there was a monopoly... the console would cost around $2000, simply because they can charge that much, as there is no alternative.
Exactly....wait a sec. If thats true then my x-box used would sell for around 1000 dollars! MUhahaha
250$ is enough for a console already. I dont wana have to pay 2000
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Originally posted by Adeli
Speaking of GameCube games... have you seen/heard of/played \"The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age\"? I heard about it at CAD (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archives&date=last) but thought it was a joke.
You seriously play as hero wannabes who tag along with the fellowship... I saw it today... made me laugh.
Hahaha, made me laugh (a lil too much :P) !
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Originally posted by Adeli
Post Script: If there was a monopoly... the console would cost around $2000, simply because they can charge that much, as there is no alternative.
Who would buy a console that\'s more expensive than a PC? :P
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slap a little white paint on the side of an xbox controller, and bam, instant shamu, anyways, I like these systems, not neccessarily in that order though (NES, Nes, nes)
pc
xbox
n64
gamecube (have you seen the new zelda?, go Shigeru, woot :D)
nes
snes
psx
ps2
sega not the dc
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P.N.03 is a game by Capcom.. aesthetically, and conceptually, its absolutely awesome.. realistically, its a bit choppy with the controls, you wont understand what i mean unless you actually play it , its a bit difficult to explain.. the ai isnt the best, but so far it seems to be kicking my butt in normal mode.. you can find information about it at capcoms website.. i like it, i dont expect a lot of other people to.. i generally like the obscure games that nobody ever plays (Kinetica anyone, i loved this game too)
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hail gamecube, burn those playstation things, they stole the nintendo chipset and they should burn in hell.
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YES! Let Playstation burn!
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If everyone else would steal the PS controller then I would be happy burning it. ;) :P :D
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No way, the xbox mini controler os the most comfortable game UI device I\'ve ever played with.
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My favorite controller is still the old Sega controllers :D
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Im sick of people debating over which system is the best. I can put this debate to a rest, as far as hardware is concerned, anyway. game quality is another matter...
first, the GameCube
485 MHz
32-bit integer
64-bit floating-point
64KB L1 cache (32KB instruction + 32KB data)
256KB L2 cache
1.94 GFLOPS
CPU external bus
64 bits wide
162 MHz
1.3 gigabytes per second bandwidth
(GPU) ATI Flipper
162 MHz
4 pixel pipelines
1 texel per pixel pipeline
4 texels per clock cycle (4 pixels with 1 texel per pixel)
Maximum of 8 texture layers per rendering pass (done in 8 clock cycles)
650 megapixels per second
Point, Bilinear, Trilinear, Anisotropic Mip-Map Filtering
Perspective-Correct Texture Mapping
Environment Mapping
Subpixel Anti-Aliasing
33 million polygons per second (peak)
6 million to 12 million polygons per second (with effects)
Hidden Surface Removal (HSR) based on early Z-test
Virtual Texture Design
2MB Embedded Frame Buffer
1MB Embedded Texture Cache
10.4 gigabytes per second texture cache read bandwidth
scene texture data stored in 24MB 1T-SRAM main memory
8.6 GFLOPS
The PS2...
Emotion Engine
294.912 MHz
128-bit integer SIMD
128-bit floating-point SIMD
24KB cache
450 Dhrystone 2.1 MIPS
6.2 GFLOPS
Geometry:
66 million polygons per second (peak)
38 million polygons per second (lighting)
36 million polygons per second (fog)
16 million polygons per second (curved surface generation)
(I cant find PPS with effects applied.)
Graphics Synthesizer
147.456 MHz
16 pixel pipelines
2.4 gigapixels per second (no texture)
1.2 gigatexels per second
Point, Bilinear, Trilinear, Anisotropic Mip-Map Filtering
Perspective-Correct Texture Mapping
Bump Mapping
Environment Mapping
32-bit Color (RGBA)
32-bit Z Buffer
150 million particles per second
25 million polygons per second (48-pixel quad with Z, Alpha, and Texture)
And the Xbox...
Intel CPU
Modified Pentium III (Celeron)
733 MHz
32-bit integer
80-bit floating-point
64-bit MMX
128-bit SSE
32KB L1 cache
128KB L2 cache
2.93 GFLOPS (SSE)
NVIDIA XGPU
250 MHz
1.0 gigapixel per second
2.0 gigatexels per second
4.0 billion anti-aliased samples per second
Point, Bilinear, Trilinear, Anisotropic Mip-Map Filtering
Perspective-Correct Texture Mapping
DotProduct3 Bump Mapping (DOT3)
Environment Mapped Bump Mapping (EMBM)
Volumetric Textures (3D Textures)
Z, Stencil, Shadow, and Multisampling buffers
S3TC and DirectX DXT1-DXT5 texture compression
Full-Scene Anti-Aliasing (2x, Quincunx, 4x)
125 million particles per second
60 million polygons per second (with effects)
Triangle Tessellation
Z-buffer compression and Hidden Surface Removal (HSR) based on early Z-test
95 to 116 GFLOPS (estimated)
Max resolution 1920x1080 interlaced
What does all of this techno babble mean? basically, it means that the Xbox is the most powerful system with its 60 million polys per second fully rendered, as opposed to 6 - 12 million for the GC, and tho it doesnt say for PS2, probably around the 18 -24 million range.
Just as a side note, GC is my favorite system cause of SSB:M, and xbox my second cause of Halo 2 :) Playstation 2 is my least favorite, coming behind the N64, SNES, NES, Genesis, Dreamcast, Jaguar, Atari 2600, Commodore 64... you get my point.
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Once again, hardware doesn\'t mean crap unless they have the games to back it up.
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Exactly. Any system without Mario and Link sucks. :]
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Link yes, Mario... no.
Final Fantasy, yes.
So that rules out Xbox.
GameCube has Crystal Chronicles.
I still say PS2 for the games.
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Xbox still owns all muahahaha! :P
Especially with Halo 2
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Originally posted by Myrtl
Xbox still owns all muahahaha! :P
Especially with Halo 2
H2 lost my intrest after 5 minutes so no.
Also PS2 has Gran Turismo :P
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Ok you people just don\'t get it do you, consoles may have less processing power than a pc but that doesn\'t mean anything because the games created for the console are optimized for that specific hardware.
Just take GTA: SA for example runs pretty well on the PS2 but most peoples computers struggle with the inferior GTA: VC. If your computer doesn\'t struggle with VC you probably payed 15-20 times the price of the PS2.
PS2 exclusive games: Gran Turismo (the whole series), Final Fantasy (the last couple at least), Star Ocean 3 (and 2 for PS), ISS series (I think), Singstar (I\'m not saying I have played it though...), huge list of other ones but those are the main ones.
Also don\'t the people who support the Gamecube actually think about why none of their games get ported :P
-Zorium
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I just connected my xbox to my comp and can now download both games and movies that I transfer to the console. Can the others do that?
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Originally posted by TheRedMonk
I just connected my xbox to my comp and can now download both games and movies that I transfer to the console. Can the others do that
Who cares, a console is meant to play games not watch movies.
Originally posted by Myrtl
Xbox still owns all muahahaha!
Especially with Halo 2
So the X-Box has one game going for it? Well I guess two if you count the first Halo, niether of wich I thought was that impressing.