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Gameplay => Newbie Help (Start Here) => Topic started by: Under the moon on November 18, 2004, 05:59:19 am

Title: "Newbie" doesn't ring right.
Post by: Under the moon on November 18, 2004, 05:59:19 am: I was just considering what words would be appropriate and allowed in the realm of PS, and besides foul language and l33t, one word really sticks out. \"Newbie\"
Would it not be better to call one a newcomer, youngling, novice, Novie, neophyte, tyro, or any number of words you could pull out of a thesaurus that don\'t sound like modern slang?
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Post by: Hatchnet on November 18, 2004, 06:17:14 am: Yes your right use of the words newbie, newb, noob, and other similar words would be very out of character so why do we not all make the effort to avoid they\'er use.
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Post by: Karyuu on November 18, 2004, 06:28:57 am: I doubt anyone uses the word \'newbie\' while IC. It\'s more of a term that floats around the forums, and is not negative in any way.
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Post by: Merdarion on November 21, 2004, 05:36:39 pm: Well, maybe you\'re right. rom now on I\'ll use Neophyt.
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on November 21, 2004, 06:28:25 pm: Speaking of which I think this forums title should be changed. Not only new people may have questions (I make threads here somtimes) and the title of the forum might demote people from asking questions about ps, which after all, is what this section is for.
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Post by: thezambOWNie on November 21, 2004, 08:39:25 pm: :( everyones gotta start somewhere theres no shame in being a newbie especially when the real game still isnt out yet. whenever i goto a new game i expect to be called a newb and to ask \"newbish\" questions but thats how the greats of games r made because they asked those stupid questions and made a real name for themselves after they got the hang of it.
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Post by: Merdarion on November 23, 2004, 05:54:38 pm: Newbie is just an expression (Maybe New Being?). I\'m not ashmed of being new.
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Post by: Kuiper7986 on November 23, 2004, 07:41:13 pm: its just in terms of typing quickly, since were used to noob, newbie, n00b, and such others its like a second nature to us by now. But yes you are correct in the terms of role-playing or anything of the sort, newbie would not be well to use...
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Post by: Seytra on November 23, 2004, 09:36:45 pm: Quote
Originally posted by thezambOWNie
:( everyones gotta start somewhere theres no shame in being a newbie especially when the real game still isnt out yet. whenever i goto a new game i expect to be called a newb and to ask \"newbish\" questions but thats how the greats of games r made because they asked those stupid questions and made a real name for themselves after they got the hang of it.

However, you can greatly reduce the risk of ever being called \"n00b\" by lurking in the places for a couple of weeks to get the hang of it before posting a single post. Actually, passively gathering knowledge should be the preferred way.

And yes, \"newbie\" is just a saying that you are new, whereas \"noob\" means that you are new and act stupid.

I agree that RP-wise the term \"newbie\" should be avoided, but the proposed ones have meanings that are specific to certain establishments. For example, \"neophyte\" AFAIK is for aspiring priests, quite more than just what \"newbie\" means. Also, \"youngling\" refers to age, which isn\'t appropriate for IC conversation (because some ppl. might start out RPing older chars. However, I don\'t know of the meanings of each proposed terms so there might be one that is free from \"parasitic\" meanings.
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Post by: thezambOWNie on November 24, 2004, 01:48:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by Seytra

However, you can greatly reduce the risk of ever being called \"n00b\" by lurking in the places for a couple of weeks to get the hang of it before posting a single post. Actually, passively gathering knowledge should be the preferred way.

a couple of weeks? i usually catch the hang of games within the first hours i mean i dont mean master but the basics r definantly down. meh i guess everyone goes at thier own pace (not saying thats yours ;) ) but most definantly if newbs in a game would open thier eyes and watch for an extra 30 seconds thier question is usually answered without a word being spoken. but of course there r always those times when its just to urgent and ya gotta say it right?
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Post by: Myrtl on November 24, 2004, 03:34:33 am: I dont see why newbie is bad at all. Its actually funny to be called a noob so i dont know how it could be offensive.(it humors me)

\"Newbie help\" is a great title for its purpose becuase when then see it they immediatly know what it means (unless they dont know what a noob is, but thats just sad :D )
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Post by: Seytra on November 24, 2004, 05:38:16 am: @ thezambOWNie: Well, \"a couple of weeks\" probably was a bit conservative, but it was meant to apply to forums mostly, and in case one would not spend very much time each day reading through things. If one spends more time, this obviously decreases, but better be safe than sorry, right? :)

@ Myrtl: you\'re such a n00b! ;) This thread is aimed at the ingame environment, not at the forums. :) We are trying to find a term to call newbies that has the right feel for the setting.

Maybe \"foreigner\" would be a good idea, as a newbie obviously would always be foreign, though technically their chars would not be, as they might have lived there for years... \"stranger\" doesn\'t fit it, either... \"nobody\" has a negative meaning, though it technically would fit perfectly... *sigh* how about \"noby\"? :D
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Post by: Hatchnet on November 24, 2004, 04:14:15 pm: perhabs we should call them younglings or something like that.

P.S. Myrtl I thought you had played RS. There the word noob and similar words are used as an insult with a very negative context. Generaly amied at people you don\'t like for some reason the same way words like ******* and ***** would be.
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Post by: Merdarion on November 24, 2004, 07:52:16 pm: What about \"New One\".
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Post by: Cyberchu on November 24, 2004, 08:43:32 pm: Personaly I prefer newcomer
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on November 27, 2004, 09:49:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by thezambOWNie
:( everyones gotta start somewhere theres no shame in being a newbie especially when the real game still isnt out yet. whenever i goto a new game i expect to be called a newb and to ask \"newbish\" questions but thats how the greats of games r made because they asked those stupid questions and made a real name for themselves after they got the hang of it.

You took my statement the wrong way. I was saying that not only new people have questions. Many older plaers may hol back on asking a very good question because of the \"newb\" label on the forum.
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Post by: Chestar on November 27, 2004, 09:57:45 am: Originally posted by Efflixi Aduro
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You took my statement the wrong way. I was saying that not only new people have questions. Many older plaers may hol back on asking a very good question because of the \"newb\" label on the forum.

I think if someone is a smart person with a reasonable question they will also be intelligent enough to figure out that there\'s nothing to be ashamed of for asking a question on a \"newbie\" forum. Afterall, they are a newbie in the matter of which they have a question, technically speaking. The only stupid question is the question that remains unasked, because no one is expected to know everything.