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Fan Area => Fan Art => Topic started by: Dameon on November 18, 2004, 07:15:09 am
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I started work on an airbrushed version of a klyros using the black and white outlined concept art from the site. Here is what I have so far. It is far from done but I think its coming along nicely. Comments welcomed:
(http://img92.exs.cx/img92/9585/klyros_new.jpg)
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Nice, kinda too fuzzy though, just a thought. Keep up the good work though.
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I\'ve never worked with an airbrush, but I think you work in layers, with details and sharper edges being somewhere near the top. I think Dameon is just putting the base layer down. Maybe I have this airbrushing concept thing all messed up though...
It\'s looking fabulicious so far, can\'t wait to see it finished.
:emerald:
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Did you use a *REAL* airbrush, or are you Photoshoping(GIMPing?) it?
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Originally posted by ArcaneFalcon
I\'ve never worked with an airbrush, but I think you work in layers, with details and sharper edges being somewhere near the top. I think Dameon is just putting the base layer down. Maybe I have this airbrushing concept thing all messed up though...
It\'s looking fabulicious so far, can\'t wait to see it finished.
As far as I know there are more techniques -> But you\'re right.
Whooa, The amount of real ART seems to increase at this forum (Desert Enkidukai, This very awesome Klyros.
And no this doesn\'t look like GIMP or Photoshop
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What am I missing? For all I can see, it is a blurry version of the Klyros in B/W, with green clothing instead of blue and the golden thing removed? Not to criticise, but how is this \"real ART\"?
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Originally posted by Merdarion
As far as I know there are more techniques -> But you\'re right.
Whooa, The amount of real ART seems to increase at this forum (Desert Enkidukai, This very awesome Klyros.
And no this doesn\'t look like GIMP or Photoshop
Well, as much as I wish I was that good with a real airbrush, it is done in Photoshop :P. Its using the paint tool as an airbrush (click the little airbrush picture in the tool bar). It uses a bunch of masked layers (one for each element... skin, clothes, gold trim, etc). Its very much unfinished, thus why the clothes are messed up and it looks blurry. You were right though arcanefalcon. Using either a real airbrush or photoshop, the fine details are done after the base shading layers are done.
It is art Seytra because I made the shading and skin and clothes, etc only using the black outline from the concept drawing page. I didn\'t use the one from the races page and change the color/make it blurry :P. Like I said, its very much a work in progress
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So it\'s sort of like a tracing of the original PS character sketch, just with your own colouring?
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Exactly. I am coloring in the origional PS line art sketch.
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Looks very interestin so far, cant wait to see the final one.
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I really like airbrushing, but with a real aibrush, not a computer. It is harder to control, and much harder to fix any mistakes.
You do indeed work in layers, and sometimes many of them. It\'s really annoying when you make a mistake on a highlight and ruin the entire thing, also proper masking is essential.
Using a PC is a cheating way if you ask me. Too easy to fix problems, I couldn\'t airbrush like that on PC though, I am far better with the real thing, so I can\'t really criticise.
As for the real art comment, that will open an annoying debate. I assume you\'ve seen the Campbells soup can? I don\'t call that real art, but apparently it is. If an artist says it\'s art, agree... It\'ll save you a headache.
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Ah yes, Andy Warhol... please no debates about him.
Before, all this was done with the mouse. Now I have been introduced to a lovely tool called the tablet. I don\'t know how I ever lived without one. I\'ve only used a small one at school, but I am purchasing a nice big one for home. Its gonna cost me around $300 or so but its well worth it.
As for if it is actual art or not, it really doesn\'t matter to me either way if it is. I\'m just having fun and solidifing my knowledge of photoshop in the process. Whether you consider it real or not is up to you.
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I like it, it\'s cool. It shows some effort, my artistic skills stop at ms paint :).
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Here is an updated version. As you can see, I added the gold trim, the jewels, and started refining the face (the eye on the last one made it look like an alien) and shading more of the skin:
(http://img90.exs.cx/img90/9497/klyros_new2.jpg)
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Really starting to come along nicely.
Can\'t wait til it\'s finished. :tup:
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I did like the \"alien eye\", though. Also, I think that the shading on the arms is too dark. Or is this going to change as with the throat?
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I liked the alien eye too.
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Originally posted by Seytra
I did like the \"alien eye\", though. Also, I think that the shading on the arms is too dark. Or is this going to change as with the throat?
Everything will be more defined so there is a better line between different body parts. What I did was just a base layer of shading so the whole thing is going to go through changes.
About the alien eye, I liked it too, but I am trying to make it acurate to the drawing. Maybe i\'ll do another more \'free\' version some other time.
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Well, here is an update. I had a 10 page essay due and a bunch of art pieces for school (propaganda poster, web site, and business cards), so I havent had much time to work on this until recently. Here is a small update. Its mostly more detail to the \'mohawk\' crest and some around the shoulder. I also realized that I forgot to put in the gold bracer on the arm, so a rough outline is included as well. You may also notice I started cleaning up the outer edge of the wing. It is more defined and less fuzzy now around the edges:
(http://img61.exs.cx/img61/7901/79-klyros_new3.gif)
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Coming together great, Dameon. :) I would suggest putting some sort of shadow along the base of the crest if you want to make it look like it\'s running along the center of the skull, although I\'m not sure what you\'re aiming for there. It\'s nice to see the lines starting to sharpen up too. :)
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Thanks for the tip. I\'ll do that.
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Well, after much searching, I cannot find the origional klyros I was doing. So I will be starting over again.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/xphaser99x/klyros.jpg)
You mean this? BWAHAHA! I\'ll never uninstall MB :D
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No, not that. Besides, you can get that from the site man.
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This one?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/Seytra/Planeshift/klyros_new.gif)
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no, but that is what it is based on. I started making one from that outline, but I lost the one I started making (see earlier in the thread).
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Ouch. I thought you\'d just lost the original image, not the work-in-progress.
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Why can\'t you take your work from page one and just continue from there?
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One one, Whemy, that all artists use: Layers. :P
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The image online is a flattened image. The one I used was made of multiple layerrs, each with a layer mask of the outline. In reality, it would be a lot more work just to use the ones I already uploaded.
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Well I didn\'t know exactly what you planed on doing to it. If you were just adding things to it I couldn\'t see why you\'d need layers.
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Eh, things happen ;)
I personally am no longer fond of layers, for the simple reason that they separate the image too much and make it look broken down even if flattened. The colors often do not match up, the shading appears divided, etc. It\'s a lot like taking the traditional media approach - step by step on the same canvas. If you mess up, try to cover it up and do all the steps over again. The image looks more \'together\' that way, but it could just be me :)
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um.... what planet are you from? Lol. j/k. To each his/her own.
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Originally posted by Karyuu
Eh, things happen ;)
I personally am no longer fond of layers, for the simple reason that they separate the image too much and make it look broken down even if flattened. The colors often do not match up, the shading appears divided, etc. It\'s a lot like taking the traditional media approach - step by step on the same canvas. If you mess up, try to cover it up and do all the steps over again. The image looks more \'together\' that way, but it could just be me :)
I feel similarily, any art I do contains two layers, one black and white, one color.