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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: mortisangelus on November 18, 2004, 02:08:09 pm

Title: Guild Wars or Planeshift?
Post by: mortisangelus on November 18, 2004, 02:08:09 pm
When Guild wars is released before or after CB is released will you still play PS?

Are the dev\'s wasting their time or will PS become greater than Guildwars?

I no i will still try CB even if Guild wars is released or not


btw the reason why i left WoW out off this topic it is because both PS and GW are free to play, dont need to pay monthly payments to rich fat greedy pigs (Blizzard)
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Post by: Kiern on November 18, 2004, 02:53:58 pm
Uh, why must people only play one game?
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Post by: mortisangelus on November 18, 2004, 03:00:55 pm
They dont, but if one was amazin good wouldnt you play it more often?

I am just wondering if alot  of people are gonna play PS, then PS can show off its community with unique classes and jobs.
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Post by: Androgos on November 18, 2004, 04:02:40 pm
PlaneShift is \"revolutionary\" in many aspects.
For one, it\'s the first 3D MMORPG game to be Open Source codewise. And many ideas are new ones which you won\'t find in any other game or in a very few of them.

And btw, most of us can\'t waste our time, since all (AFAIK) of  us do this to learn how to do it
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Post by: Boldstorm on November 18, 2004, 04:25:26 pm
I don\'t feel it is fair to compare PS to Guild Wars or any other retail game, but I played Guild Wars during the World Preview and really didn\'t see anything special about the game at all, as a matter of fact I was pretty disappointed. Well at least I won\'t have to spend any money on it this way.
But PS right now is in a tech demo stage and even when CB comes out it will not be in the same stages of development as a game that is being sold for retail.
I fully plan on playing PS but I will also be playing World of Warcraft.
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Post by: acraig on November 18, 2004, 04:35:25 pm
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Originally posted by mortisangelus
Are the dev\'s wasting their time or will PS become greater than Guildwars?


This is opposite to my point of view.  This is my hobby that I do because its fun ( most of the time :) ) and I have learnt a lot and meet a lot of interesting people.  I guess you can compare it to people who build hotrods.  Are they wasting their time because other people can go out and buy a Ford?
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Post by: DepthBlade on November 18, 2004, 04:45:07 pm
Bah Kiern is right, why must we be told to only play one game. I play FF11, UT2004, BattleFront, A&A\'s, WC3 and I have been doing a uber campaign on FF7 as of late. Then I play and uphold a guild within on PlaneShift, so as you can see I am on here most often still but doesn\'t exclude me from playing other games.

Also for guildwars I played it on the world preview, they did the worst job ever bringing newbies in. I give it no star for no introduction effort.
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Post by: Kuiper7986 on November 18, 2004, 08:09:23 pm
you know mortisangelus, no one if forcing you to do anything, you do whatever you want or play what you want to play it\'s your life...

Depthblade, read a book, go study, go outside and excercise, go have casual sex, just do anything but stay inside you crazy (but respectable Planeshift member of the community) bum! :P
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Post by: DepthBlade on November 18, 2004, 08:16:15 pm
Um or I could just do what I always do and do abit of it all eh? You dirty little hobbit ;)
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Post by: Icefalcon on November 19, 2004, 01:06:56 am
Well, I plan on buying Guild Wars simply because its free. We will most likely get bored with CB anyway since it is still a tech-demo. (Ok, maybe not, but Im a pessimist when it comes to these things)
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Post by: Jaakon on November 19, 2004, 12:57:07 pm
Lol, same thing in every forum.

GW isnt free!
I really think its a rib off.
The only thing that turns people to GW is because theres no monthly fee. But did you ever think of playing the game? You will be constantly forced to buy new expansions to get new skills and storyline.
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Post by: John_Thazer on November 19, 2004, 01:14:00 pm
I would prefer PlaneShift to almost all online RPGs, since its got one of the best communities I seen around and the fact you (user, player) can contribute to PlaneShift yourself, where have you seen that? Even though it\'s not finished (which it will never be :P) I love it...:D
And there the fact thats it is free :P...I\'m poor, and unemployed..mehh...well thats life...mehh...pfsh...
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Post by: cyg on November 19, 2004, 03:42:10 pm
Well I can comment on this subject;

 It\'s been so hard to want to post and not be told, this it umpteenth time this was mentioned.

I came to planeshift after leaving a very involved rpg game called sociolotron,  altho it is still in beta it is a very invovled adult minded game.  I wont go any further than this.  I was the bug detector on that forum and the game, and got to know the programmer pretty well.  He made special worlds like you may be doing, to test out such and such while the rest of the world went along thier merry way.

I currently am playing counter strike.  I tried asherons call two but it seems since turbine took it over, they are have lost alot of thier user bases.  I also play call of duty, when I can.  In real life I run a construction company.  So I get alot of outside attention.  To me online gaming is nice way to relax when the snow falls, keep the stupid tv off, and relax with a cup of coffee at the same time immerse myself in a virtual realtiy on this screen.

I don\'t a lick about programming these days, not anymore with the new lanuages.  Nor do I have the time to learn.  I know alot about cad due to the fact that I had to get my toy line cut from cnc machines.

I heard it once said, that for a computer game to get your emotions so involved in real life, to make you either laugh, cry or get upset, that is real power to the senses.

Now to go back and do my best to proof read this...hehe
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Post by: Tofakie on November 19, 2004, 10:06:59 pm
It\'s best to play the game that suits you more, or just wait until you find out more about each of \'em, or play both until you find one to be boring over time.

I ditched DAoC because it was basically a cuss fest and the major issues in the game were never resolved, they\'re focusing on the regular players, and basically telling the newbie\'s in the game to find a different one.

I\'m staying with Planeshift. People are way nicer, and i\'ve rarely seen any bigotry so far.
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Post by: Icefalcon on November 20, 2004, 01:36:17 am
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Originally posted by Jaakon
GW isnt free!
I really think its a rib off.
The only thing that turns people to GW is because theres no monthly fee. But did you ever think of playing the game? You will be constantly forced to buy new expansions to get new skills and storyline.

I am convinced it wont be a rip off. Paying $40 a month plus $50 a box is a rip off. Guild Wars has a one-time fee, which in my opinion, is as good as free. You will not be forced to buy expansions, you can play any version with everyone else, no matter if they have the expansion or not.
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Post by: dannythompson on November 20, 2004, 08:11:45 am
Why are you even posting that here? Would you go the guildwar forum and post something like this?
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Post by: Specialfighter on November 20, 2004, 08:44:11 pm
I will play both because i\'m fascinated by these two games. WoW would be also great, but i don\'t like paying monthly fees.
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Post by: Talonder on November 20, 2004, 11:17:03 pm
I think he is trying to make is that both games are similar because they dont have a monthly fee. This means that you can stop playing the game, and come back four months later, and you still have all of your stuff, without having to go through the hasssle of signing up again and etc.

This is a huge plus for me, as I can only play when I am home on holidays, which makes it frustrating to have to sign up time and time again just to play. I think the reason guild wars has so much appeal is that once you place those first $50 down, the payments are over, and  you can play the game without the pressure of having to pay for it.

That is why planeshift appeals to so many players, because it is free, but at the same time isnt one of those crappy 2d games on the internet.
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Post by: fken on November 21, 2004, 01:03:16 am
mortisangelus : strange idea...
I already played Rubies of Eventides and Priston Tales and today I\'ve found : Dark Age Of Camelot emulated by doll. These one are free and I continu to play ps : this is not a problem !
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Post by: Icefalcon on November 21, 2004, 02:02:42 am
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Originally posted by fken
 Dark Age Of Camelot emulated by doll.

DaoC? How do you get that free?
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Post by: Annah on November 21, 2004, 11:05:25 am
I don\'t think comparing Planeshift with Guild Wars is wise, from the simple fact that Guild Wars is  commercial. The game will cost, though it won\'t have monthly fees.
 Even with these said, I can guarantee you Planeshift has more revolutionary ideas, and it can \"smash to the ground\" a lot of p2p MMORPGs.
 And yes, as Kiern said, why playing only one game?

 Icefalcon: you can play Dark Age of Camelot for free on the free servers. Though, the servers are not very stable, and still have a lot to compete with the original ones.
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Post by: Androgos on November 21, 2004, 11:24:38 am
One thing that Annah is on to, is that Guild Wars is commercial, which means that when it doesn\'t generate any more money, they will close the servers
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Post by: fken on November 21, 2004, 11:42:12 am
I dont think they ll close the server but there will be a lot of add ons (each 6monthes) and it wont be costless...

Icefalcon: an emulator called DOLL has been created to play DAOC. There is a lot of freeshares so no problem to play...
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Post by: Annah on November 21, 2004, 11:49:15 am
Ok, don\'t forget that the company doing Guild Wars is a division of NC Soft, that has Lineage II.
 So they have money :P
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Post by: fken on November 21, 2004, 12:01:21 pm
I\'m not sure but I think I heard something about an emulator for Lineage II too ... eh eh eh
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Post by: Annah on November 21, 2004, 12:20:54 pm
Yep, there is one. But I can\'t download it grr, the server is always full!!! :D
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Post by: Adeli on November 21, 2004, 05:45:50 pm
As for DAoC the freeshard servers are really poor (if your primary language is english). I believe there is a very good dutch server.

I got sick of it, and bought the game, for $5 Australian. Though I\'m having trouble with it right now, I need to contact the support people.
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Post by: Reikshallus on November 22, 2004, 03:31:42 am
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Originally posted by mortisangelus
When Guild wars is released before or after CB is released will you still play PS?

Are the dev\'s wasting their time or will PS become greater than Guildwars?

I no i will still try CB even if Guild wars is released or not


btw the reason why i left WoW out off this topic it is because both PS and GW are free to play, dont need to pay monthly payments to rich fat greedy pigs (Blizzard)


Well, WoW looks nucking futs! The only reason you gotta pay is because they can\'t afford to maintain, (sorry, that should be \"can\'t\") ) servers.
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Post by: Moogie on November 22, 2004, 06:45:01 am
There\'s loads of freeshard servers out there for games such as Ragnarok, DAoC, Lineage 2, etc. They\'re free and legal... but it\'s not legal for you to connect to them. Think of it akin to downloading music MP3\'s, if you know what I mean.

On that note... *cough* you will not find some PS players currently playing here. (http://www.ro2life.com/)
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Post by: Exaero_Fiero on November 22, 2004, 09:11:31 pm
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Originally posted by Reikshallus
Well, WoW looks nucking futs! The only reason you gotta pay is because they can\'t afford to maintain, (sorry, that should be \"can\'t\") ) servers.


But they can afford battle.net with all the W3,(TFT),D,D2,S:BW....etc.
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Post by: Lejon on November 23, 2004, 02:38:16 am
And the point of this thred was?

Also..
If I was to play GW... It would be quite expencive..
Lets see..
The pruchase of the Game.. I would guess $40-60
Oh yes! aperently I need MS Windows also.. $200-400(?)
And with that I also need an anivirus program, is that is suposed to run long enugh to actualy be able to play some, $$$
Nah, I think I skipp that... The rest of you (who will play GW) I wish you a very good time :)
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Post by: Melbourne on November 23, 2004, 04:57:27 am
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Originally posted by Reikshallus
Well, WoW looks nucking futs! The only reason you gotta pay is because they can\'t afford to maintain, (sorry, that should be \"can\'t\") ) servers.


But they can afford battle.net with all the W3,(TFT),D,D2,S:BW....etc.


Those aren\'t running persistant worlds, which can put some stress on the server, Diablo 3, I mean Guild Wars, does not have a persistant world, therefore there is no need to charge a fee.
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Post by: forestchild on November 23, 2004, 08:40:23 pm
I play ruby to and when PS is more playable i will play to it looks good and i like the style to.

Im playing ac2 to p2p mmorpg stop when wow comes but have little bit my doubs about wow.

But games like PS are verywelcome on my HDD hehe:P

love mmorpgs play offline games like morrowind and vampire masquerade bloodlines also soldiers of fortune2 hehe.
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Post by: Adeli on November 24, 2004, 04:14:03 am
The servers for WoW require much more than those for Battle.net. They can have thousands on one server.
Battle.net being free seems to me to reinforce the idea that WoW should be P2P, they need the money to run all of the servers..

I suppose you are one of those people that don\'t play there Moogie?
You won\'t find me logged into the forums as Allandrad... nope.
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Post by: Myrtl on November 24, 2004, 04:24:02 am
I think that Planeshift is alot better than guildwars considering i know nothing about guild wars and i have made loads of friends in the community here  :))  Everyone is just so nice and kind to eachother :)

And lucky enough its FREE .

 8)
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Post by: Adeli on November 24, 2004, 04:55:03 am
To be completely honest, I find the concept and the setting of PS, and the community it currently has more appealing than the cost (or lack thereof.)

Are most people only interested because it\'s free? Or are they like me?

Am I the only one who found Morrowind tedious and boring? (I did however enjoy being able to jump from the very top of that city divided into quares and surviving. My athletics and acrobatics was extremely high from jumping and running and swimming everywhere, it made traveling easy).

Bloodlines...
Ever play the pen and paper Vampire: The Masquerade?
It involved lots of dice, and a plethora of whining gothy angsty kids and politics.
It was great fun as you can tell...
I advise avoiding it at all costs... World of Darkness sucks, play Adventure D20 instead
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Post by: DeadlyPencil on November 24, 2004, 07:59:51 am
dont worry, at the rate this game is progressing, guild wars will have started and finished by the time this game goes to release
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Post by: Owl on November 30, 2004, 09:22:05 pm
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Originally posted by Annah
Ok, don\'t forget that the company doing Guild Wars is a division of NC Soft, that has Lineage II.
 So they have money :P


And they will gain most likely more after each addon!

You are not \"forced\" to buy these addons though.
But others who will have them have acces to more/other parts of the game world and gain abillities people without the addons will never be able to gain!

I\'ll stick with Plain Sh.t, oops i mean Shift! ;)
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Post by: Murais on December 01, 2004, 12:05:02 am
I wouldn\'t even compare the two... because... well...  they\'re not even remotely close in nature to each other. I loved Guild Wars in the Preview Event, but PS isn\'t even in a state of an MMORPG, it\'s hard to explain. I don\'t think it is possible to compare the two.
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Post by: Melbourne on December 01, 2004, 06:08:50 am
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Originally posted by Murais
I wouldn\'t even compare the two... because... well...  they\'re not even remotely close in nature to each other. I loved Guild Wars in the Preview Event, but PS isn\'t even in a state of an MMORPG, it\'s hard to explain. I don\'t think it is possible to compare the two.


That and Diablo 3, I mean Guild Wars, isn\'t even a MMO.
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Post by: Jaakon on December 01, 2004, 10:17:59 am
What do you mean GW isnt a mmo?
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Post by: Merdarion on December 02, 2004, 07:22:31 pm
Hey I heard of Guild Wars and *shaking of terror* I think it shall be forbidden to call that RP.
AFAIK when you commit war between guilds the guildhouses will be teleported together. *again shaking but even harde*
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Post by: Melbourne on December 02, 2004, 11:51:46 pm
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Originally posted by Jaakon
What do you mean GW isnt a mmo?


no persistant world exsists.  All it is is a string of chat rooms where you meet people then \"enter\" the actual game which only for you and your party.  You could try and say that the main town is persistant but it isn\'t, its just \"Diablo West Realm\" chat room 1-50.  It\'s a good system that I would like to see in other games but calling it an MMO isn\'t right.  Even the devs never say it is a MMO.  If you liked Diablo II, Guild Wars is pretty much Diablo 3.