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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Bardialus on November 18, 2004, 02:25:53 pm
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http://www.freewebs.com/ovatesguild/
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Interesting, a guild of peaceful storyteller bards...
What I dont get is - you start of as a magic user (I assume only using peaceful magic?), a laborer, or a craftsman and then you stop training in said skills at rank 6 where you become a bard able to choose your craft as a bard, like what kinds of crafts - music, dancing, story telling etc?
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good questions. the guild consists of all types of chars. magic users and not.
The training the I implied could be looked at as a form of going from apprentice to master! The skills involved in being a Bard are ordinary skills such as storytelling for example, everyone can tell one; what makes it different for the Ovates is they practise the art to the point where they can tell a story that makes each listener fell personally involved with it.
The guild members are free to choose what it is that they want to be a master in, and from there we try to help them as much as possible in attaining the highest level of performance available:)
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I still dont understand - are you specially a storytellers guild or just peacefully academics, or just a completely ecclectic guild?
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its a case of being all of the above.
As i said on my website I would ideally like it to become an academic guild.
have you ever played D&D? If you have then you will be accustomed with the principles of how the guild houses work.
We aim to teach everything that we know about people and places within PS to our members! the storytelling is just a part of raising our profile as a guild.
for example if a member of another guild wants a journeyman Bard to travel with them, then it is the Bards role to take information in about the adventure and to report and record the information in the form of story. This will then be updated onto our guild site where it can be viewed by all.
By helping other guilds raise their standing within PS we raise ours by association :)
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I think this\'d be great if you made it into an organization. I know it\'s harder to maintain, and less cool in some ways. On the other hand, if it was an organization, people from all guilds could join. Anyway, cool idea, good luck.
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thank you.
the organisation idea is one I hope to introduce later on. I think that if the members are willing then the guild is just a means to an end.
another thing, if for instance a guild wants to discredit another then we also train our members in the art of good slander. pay the right price and your name could be on top in a guild dispute!!
So if anyone in the future needs a Bard to tell stories about them then you know where to find me eh?
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Cool. So let me get this straight. I can hire one of you guys to walk the streets proclaiming my greatness? Now that\'s worth a thought... if it wasn\'t for my low profile.
Also, is the slander thing a good idea? I didn\'t think it really fit in with the whole bardish image. Isn\'t throwing insults below you?
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Eventually yeah, thats the whole idea.
We train up and part of the training is to accompany ppl on adventures, lets say it builds character:)
Slander is a part of all Bardic skills. without knowing how to do it how are we to know how to counter it or raise ppls profiles??? its just another side to the dice of life within PS!!
To help clarify to truly understand Bardic knowledge an apprentice must become able to play every type of char ranging from peasants to high lords:)
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I think this is a great idea and you seem to be a cool guy Bardialus so keep it up! ;)
Some people believe bards are quite worthless but I disagree. The power of making people underestimate or overestimate other people is great.
OOC: If I wouldn\'t have been the Red Monk I think I would have been a bard :P
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Well for future info, come see the guild in CB, we might be able to give a few pointers!!! you never know :)
oh another thing, hopefully we will have a library of information that we gather, so it might prove useful for ppl to come see us before they go adventuring!?
Just an idea
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Originally posted by Bardialus
another thing, if for instance a guild wants to discredit another then we also train our members in the art of good slander. pay the right price and your name could be on top in a guild dispute!!
...awesome.
The guild looks great, dont give up. Members will come eventually, just stick with it.
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Good Luck
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my favorite character ever was a bard, i had a riot with him so anyone who thinks a bard is worthless had better not say that near me.
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Impressive! :) Keep it up ...
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Thank you for the good feedback people, its nice to know that my ideas can be accepted and understood by others.
I hope the members will come. After all without them Im just a crazy fool talking to myself about concepts and principles :)
Windwalker sounds to me like you used to have a good DM ;p
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Very intersting. It gives a fresh air to the Planeshift community. Well done ;)
What can I say more ...
Good Luck!
* EDIT *
We\'d sure feel different (as in a good way :P ...) with a guild like yours in the Planeshift Council. What do ya say? :]
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Sounds promising...
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Thank you ladies and gentlemen its nice to know that we will be accepted into the scope of things.
:):):):):):):):):)
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I am not a girl ... grr :P
And yes, we would really be glad to have you in the Council. So, it\'s official, you\'re in? Because soon the web site will be created, and we need an updated members list. :)
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I apologise, :)
If the coucil would accept me then yes I would be honoured to be a part of it.
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Nah no problem :)
Good then ... welcome aboard !
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Thank you.
Hopefully the Ovates will be able to give an objective insight into things that occur in PS.
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You should warn him Annah. I think the council will be a little chaotic at start, and chaos is the last a new guild needs. :)
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Hah, thats what you get for picking a girlish name. :D
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How many times can a guy apologise for making a read error??? :P
within the core of chaos there can be found a foundation of order :)
Without it we would fall into the depths of destruction!
Hopefully as a united council we can produce solutions to all problems that arise :)
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And I just realised something (apart from the fact Im slow on the uptake on this):-
Council? Hmm need some details as to what, who. You know the kinda routine things...What do we do?
again im not normally like this..honest :)
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Even I don\'t know exactly what we are going to do. Annah needs to at least set up some forums, or I could if someone has some extra webspace/MySQL Account.
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within the core of chaos there can be found a foundation of order
Well said! hehe :)
And yep, we really need to set up some forums. I\'ll speak today to see if I\'ll manage to find a place to have them.
As for the web site, we need to discuss its appearance :)
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Surely we should be thinking about what it is that the council do before we plan on how the site looks.
Personally I would rather have a series of principles and potential guidelines to be set out and finalised and have a shoddy looking site, after all we want to appeal to people\'s thoughts rather than just asthetics!!
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Well, the basic idea is posted in the Concil thread.
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The basic idea is yeah, but there is no details as to how we apply what the council does to PS. Specific details I think will be needed before the council is even truly set up.
Its no good just going on a basic idea, if we do that then we have no stable ground to operate from!!
I think if we get together and think of a solution to how we will work, and come up with a system that the council all agrees on. Then we can start to plan how the council will react to certain things that will arise when CB is released.
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i love the idea behind your guild
maybe in my next life i\'ll think about joining:)
fingers crossed people will notice its potential and sign up soon
Good luck and dont give up!!!;)
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How comes everyone who loves our guild already belong to another........grrrr
jokin;)
thanks for all the support and good words guys
much appreciated:):):)
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Originally posted by Amiroth88
How comes everyone who loves our guild already belong to another........grrrr
Because 99.9% of us are already in a guild. Don\'t worry, you will be overwhelmed with people when CB comes around.
The basic idea is yeah, but there is no details as to how we apply what the council does to PS. Specific details I think will be needed before the council is even truly set up.
Yes, I agree. Thats Annahs responsibility though.
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And the potential for converting people to our way of life; will hopefully increase when CB is out.
That will be the perfect time for us to show the other guilds how we work and what we truly stand for. :)
When CB is stable enough for the guilds to truly become what they are, and our guild\'s ideals have started to be realised we will be knowledgable in our crafts as guild members to probably train up future Bards that will work for other guilds.
Stranger things have happened :)
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Just to announce to any potential members, there is a new easy way to join. Follow the link from the main site to the guild\'s forum. From there you have to sign up for it, then go to the Initiates section and read the instructions and follow them. We will then get back to you. This method is to insure that we only recruit members who are dedicated enough, and who would be a good addition.
Also on what Bardialus just said, I am not sure that \"converting people to our way of life\" is appropriate, it sounds a little ehh, you know, well i just think that Bardialus should put it another way. I am probably going way to far into this because it was probably just meant as a simple statement. It just poked at me. Oww well.
And check out the site for all who have not!
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I was going to say our way of thinking and reacting to things...but in hindsight I thought it might sound militant or too religious. I didnt want to project the wrong image:(
I apologise Kwip if I mislead you into thinking hedonistic thoughts etc ;)
(clears throat) To those who have visited our sight or maybe are thinking to joining our guild, I would like to greet you and say well met!
We as Ovates have a duty to Planeshift\'s society to help maintain the balance between Chaos and Order.
If you wish to know more before you decide to join us then please visit the site and use the relvant links to contact us...We will ensure (hopefully) to be able to answer your questions!
Ovates: With a story we can change the world!!!!
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With the age of Crystal Blue coming upon on its way we shall gather our knowledge and lore of the old and prepare to gather more knowledge, spread the knowledge already in store, and provide our various bardic services to those who need them.
With CB comes a bard\'s age, one of adventure and story, and we shall meet it head on.
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With our heads held high and our eyes pointing forward; shall we gaze upon the world! The new lands are forming people, lets go adventuring!
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Hello I\'m Sly
and I can bet
that you haven\'t
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Grab your coat!
Keep up the pace!
We need your vote
at Kada\'s place. ;)
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well it mustve worked ;) either that or the bribes paid off eh?