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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Junibeater on December 07, 2004, 02:57:09 am

Title: Phase 3 or beta or whatever the next step is
Post by: Junibeater on December 07, 2004, 02:57:09 am: In the next set of tests and stuff will you have to get accept by them for testing or will you just be to download and play?

And I know its been said many times before, but I\'m still skeptical about the game being playable by people with my internet. (21.6kbps, and I\'m miles from anywhere in a 160 year old farm house.) Can someone with internet relatively as bad as mine give me some insight.
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Post by: Chestar on December 07, 2004, 03:16:20 am: Well with 21.6kbps you will definetly need atleast 512 RAM, (and even then expect some lag) and the testing version is MB, which you can uninstall and remove from your comp once CB is released, so that should open up some space, but the age of your house doesn\'t have much to do with it... hope to see you in CB :)
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Post by: Moogie on December 07, 2004, 03:36:28 am: Net lag and graphical lag are entirely unrelated. I don\'t see why he needs 512mb RAM if he has a slow Internet connection. :P

However, to avoid graphical lag, he\'s right, you\'ll need a pretty decent system. But you\'ll still probably suffer quite a bit from network lag, so just make sure you\'re not running any other bandwidth-using programs and you\'ll be fine.

Oh, except if you use AOL. Then you\'re sheet-outta-luck, I\'m afraid.
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Post by: Shadowfalcon on December 07, 2004, 05:18:52 am: When I at home, I play starcraft lag free over 14.4kbps, and I\'m pretty sure CB will use less bandwidth than any RTS. Im sure you\'ll be fine.

Unless you\'re on AOL. I feel sooooo sorry for you then, :(
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on December 07, 2004, 05:22:05 am: Dude, get a Dell(tm). Oh! I mean get satalite internet. :P
You dont need to be near anything and its pretty decent. Not as fast as cable or dsl but its sure better than 21 K :P
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Post by: Junibeater on December 07, 2004, 06:21:31 am: ok, a few things
1. I do have a plenty good system so no worries there
2. I stated my house\'s age to show the fact im living the past and in a crap hole, so there is a little lag difference due to somewhat unstable phonelines.
3. I don\'t use AOL so no problems.
4. My parents are too poor and stuborn for satilite, so overall i guess it should be a good experience.

Thanks for your help.
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Post by: Zorium on December 07, 2004, 08:55:52 am: Why don\'t you buy a 56k modem, it wont be a massive improvement but its better than nothing (unless of course your phone lines are really bad/ your capped at 22kbps).

-Zorium
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Post by: Harkin on December 07, 2004, 12:01:24 pm: i think its what happens at my moms, her crap phone lines max at 36kbps .... just his..max lower at about 21kbps
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Post by: Moogie on December 07, 2004, 05:43:39 pm: 56k is more expensive these days than Broadband. And totally not worth it.
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Post by: Typhorean on December 07, 2004, 06:41:27 pm: Don\'t worry about it. I live in a 120-year-old house in the fly speck town and we also only have low speed dial up available. (in this case, 33.6k) I was playing an a box with WinXP AMD Athlon XP 1700+, half gig of RAM, Nvidea GeForce 3 5200 with virtually no lag. When other people were lagging My fps dropped to around 25-30. ;)

In MB, at least, bandwidth simply does not matter. Once you have it downloaded, of course. :D
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Post by: Harkin on December 07, 2004, 09:54:13 pm: wow Typhorean, almost the same computer as I have here, cept I got 3Mbps broadband and a Geforce 4 Ti4200 128MB card... but im glad for this PC... games play smooth as anything...

interesting note: on my old : 800Mhz Duron, 256 SDRAM 133, with my Geforce 4 Ti4200 128MB card in it ran BF:Vietnam, UT2K3 and many other games perfectly... i was impressed, b ut no i have more than a 200% overall performance boost I can put Morrowind on higher detail settings, I had to have the view distance low on the 800...
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Post by: Seytra on December 07, 2004, 11:08:54 pm: Sattelite internet isn\'t good for gaming AFAICS. Firstly, it only uses the satlink for downstreaming, while the uplink goes through your phone line, and secondly, the distance between the sattelite and the sender and receiver station will cause severe transmission lag. It\'d be fine for downloading PS, though.
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Post by: Adeli on December 08, 2004, 01:37:20 am: Moogie, be careful of thinking like that, you need to take his location into account. Here dial up is pretty cheap, except for exceedingly stupid ISPs.

Harkin, over here, apparently all phone lines have a max of 36. I find this amusing as I know many, many people that connect at faster speeds.
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Post by: Harkin on December 08, 2004, 01:41:12 am: here we pay $45 for Comcast Cable Internet... way mopre expensive than most dial-up ISPs and Sprint DSL at $25...

my mom lives in an old house... built by her grandfather... lines i think have never been replaced... so they are quite old... anyway I could never go back to dial-up...
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Post by: Icebreaker on December 08, 2004, 05:01:11 am: It\'s quite possible he lives in a rural area where broadband internet is not available.
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Post by: Moogie on December 08, 2004, 05:15:44 am: I think we\'ve already established that he can\'t get broadband... :P

I didn\'t think it was area-specific that dialup these days costs you more than a monthly broadband service, regardless of what services you can or cannot receive or where you are. Might be wrong though, who knows. :)
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Post by: Shadowfalcon on December 08, 2004, 08:00:35 am: Trust me. You\'ll be fine playing PS with 21.6.
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Post by: Zorium on December 08, 2004, 10:10:01 am: Moogie broadband costs more than dial up in a lot of places its only places that don\'t have big corporates owning all the phone lines in the country that have dear dial up *grumbles*.

-Zorium
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Post by: Junibeater on December 08, 2004, 04:02:02 pm: Cool thanks for the info. guys, cause I\'ve had bad experienes with the internet being rediculus and I can\'t get broadband. It\'s just that the game looks pretty good for not having lag. But from what I hear, it\'ll be fun.
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Post by: |Zidewinder| on December 10, 2004, 10:47:05 pm: You can get ultra cheap dialup for liek $5 a month... I don\'t know of any Broadband that\'s that cheap.

I\'m paying $45 a month for 3.0 Mb down/384 Kb up DSL service from Bellsouth. It\'s a bit expensive, but it rocks0rz. =)
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Post by: Androgos on December 10, 2004, 11:00:43 pm: Eh? What the heck is wrong with your ISPs?

Here in sweden we have around $20 for 0.5 and $25 for 8 and 10.
I think 24 is at $29 and 100Mbit is at $40
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Post by: Junibeater on December 11, 2004, 05:04:29 pm: Ya, see, I live in like Poor Town America. And I\'m already using the fastest ISP available to me.
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Post by: Toadhead on December 11, 2004, 07:59:26 pm: And I tought you wasn\'t able to get slower than 56k O.O
With 56k I can\'t even play worms 2 online :(
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Post by: Junibeater on December 11, 2004, 09:35:48 pm: Hey your a CPP Programmer? I wanna learn how to program with cpp. Hmmm... I don\'t know if your can help me with this, but I have compilation errors:\"Unable to open include file \'iostream\'. Can you help?
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Post by: Androgos on December 12, 2004, 12:16:27 am: 1. Get a good book
2. That error is due to an old compiler that still uses the .h headers. Get a new compiler, Dev-C++ is good and free.

Now, that was quite offtopic
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Post by: Harkin on December 12, 2004, 02:43:55 am: ARGG... megabytes and megabits ... why did they have to make two different things to measure the same thing... anyway:

1 megabyte -> 8 megabits

... I see no reason for both of these measurements... *sigh*
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Post by: Under the moon on December 12, 2004, 08:08:43 am: A light of hope for rural internet users. Broadband is on the way. Powerline Internet (http://www.inc.com/magazine/20030701/25645.html) and More Powerline Internet (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2003-04-13-powergrid_x.htm).
Maybe it will be here by the time a fully functioning, all the characters and bells and whistles PS version come out. Here\'s to hoping.
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Post by: Junibeater on December 13, 2004, 05:58:22 am: I can almost garuntee that it won\'t reach my house for at least another 2 decades.