PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Thenior on December 20, 2004, 01:18:45 am
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what stuff did you get for your new account? I got :
\"For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 14507 trias to
spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring
of the past\' item.\"
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 16749 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
I didnt think we would be given so many trias but i wont complain...
[EDIT] the new number after the most recent redo is 10053 trias for me...
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lol you beat me to it :P everyone got a ring of the past btw (i got 8k trias)
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yay I can get the good steel sword :D
I recall hearing Grono say that the conversion would be VERY low and that we would get enough for like a bakers cookie? o.O
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woah 16749 thats a lot of ale
you got those messeges in an e-mail didnt you... ive not gotten any yet. :(
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neither have I :(
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It came in my Junk folder, I warned Xordan to tell ppl that this would happen :D
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well, I got the email saying it has been reserved but no tria or anything and I have 15 diamonds.
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Well i am glad that i get that many trias but think about the ppl who had hundreds of diamonds...
Do they get like a million trias or somthing :S????
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 16506 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
Sweet...
Edit: After they fixed it, looks like the conversion is not quite as high. nuts :P
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just got the e-mail.... got 3465 trias to spend... nothing compared to you guys
now that our names are reserved what do we do with last name... ive heard that you also need a last name in CB but that is not reserved?!?
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Originally posted by NATIK
Well i am glad that i get that many trias but think about the ppl who had hundreds of diamonds...
Do they get like a million trias or somthing :S????
That is where the Hexas, Octas, and Cirlces come in :P
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I got about 8K tria (I dont think theres a s in th plural form)
And I got the ring of the past thing. Is the ring from doing the quest?
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I Dunno...
It is Trias BTW
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no i got it but i didnt do the quest
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could someone PLEASE tell me why I haven\'t recieved anything?
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K then. I remember haring that we would get rewarded for doing quest that we did when CB came. Oh well I guss it was just a rumor.
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Check your spam folder for it. Also it may be flooding with people causing lag. It took mine about 2 mins. And make sure you put in the right email 8o
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look in your junk mail... its there i found mine
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no, the only mail I recieved was the reservation confirmation.
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Hey where did you guys do this conversion thingy? I\'m sorry I couldn\'t find it...
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Originally posted by Kuiper7986
Hey where did you guys do this conversion thingy? I\'m sorry I couldn\'t find it...
Theres a link on the main (news) page.
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hehe, Grono pretends to know alot but knows not much :)
I\'m t3h rich rich rich :D :D :D
I can\'t wait to see what this ring does :)
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Hellooooooooooooooo need help! I didn\'t recieve anything!
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Premature Count:
For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 6931 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
Thanks I found it. It seems like my IE has problems updating pages its been to. Therefore I didn\'t get the news till I checked it twice sorry about the question.
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I got this:
\"For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 34538
trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the
special \'Ring of the past\' item.\"
I can\'t even remember collecting much...
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34000 tria??????
Um I think this things bugged. But what do I care. I got 8000 trai W0000T!!! :] 8)
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Great tried again after the Bug thing and now i only get 10080 trias and no ring :(
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yeah now i only get 3080 and no ring!?!
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I got 16327 trias to spend, and the special \'Ring of the past\' item. :)
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 12247 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
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20266 tria for me to spend and the ring. Its a shame I didn\'t make a bazillion more than you guys did X\'D
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 10892 trias to
spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring
of the past\' item.
I am going to have to thank Elscha for supplying me with the majority of my diamonds after I won her mini-games :)
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 51588 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
Granted, most of that was from gifts. Two very expensive gifts from a very skilled hunter ^^
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Originally posted by Elkindel
For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 51588 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
Granted, most of that was from gifts. Two very expensive gifts from a very skilled hunter ^^
wow :) That\'s the most so far. Congratz :)
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 17100 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
Woo-hoo! I can finally change my sig ;)
Thanks devs!! :tup: there was a lot of speculation on this and I was sweating it out.
And grats, Elkindel!
*waits for Zelphirien to post*
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haha u guys got jipped i got something way better then u.
\"Name and password did not match\"
beat that. im guessing my account was deleted due to inactivity... i tried every password ive ever used.
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 14244 trias to
spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring
of the past\' item.
I Deserve Nothing.
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just give them to me... i dont mind :P
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 6611 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
I only had 100 rubies and 11 emeralds.
I think they did the thing whereby if you had lots and lots moer diamonds and stuff it was worth less, so you didnt end up with huge a huge cash winfall.
LOL if that is the case i just figured something out- the way to get the max amount of tria would have been to spread your stuff out over like 5 characters then give all the stuff to one character after CB came out..... shame i didnt think of that. But i suppose i didnt have enough for it to really make a difference anyway.
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i just realized how great this is.... (wow im slow) the end of the 5 day migration will be the day my Exams end.. it will also be close to christmas/new years day which was when CB was supposed to have come out last year! Wow this is awesome when it comes out expect to see me on forever!!! (.... i hope i dont just stop playing randomly then start then stop like i did with MB)
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\"For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 13103 trias to spend.\"
Bah i thought I would be getting more. If I kept every crystal I found I would have around double that, tis a shame. Damn you nice people making me give you items! hehehe ah well
but still the system does seem a bit weird. I had over 20x what you, ramlambmoo, had and yet I only recieved about double what you got in trias. I dont mind that much though, i was already thinking nothing would be migrated so im happy
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\"but still the system does seem a bit weird. I had over 20x what you, ramlambmoo, had and yet I only recieved about double what you got in trias. I dont mind that much though, i was already thinking nothing would be migrated so im happy\"
yeah i know, thats what ive been saying. The rate for changing gems to Tria is a variable one, so it changes depending on how much you had. The more gems you have, the less they are worth individually. Overall you still get more than me, but not a huge amount more (compared to how many more gems you had than me). This prevents people starting out with 1,000,000 tria, if the rate was static.
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 9256 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
I want to know how these newbies got over 10k? Is this bugged..? I only had like 700-800 in rubies.
How many did you people with 21k in tria have?
I don\'t think this is right.
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\"I want to know how these newbies got over 10k? Is this bugged..? I only had like 700-800 in rubies.
How many did you people with 21k in tria have?
I don\'t think this is right.\"
are you saying there people are noobs because they are noobs in the forums? Some people dont pay much attention to the forums and just play the game, you know.
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Well I got a little over 5k tria from about 75 rubies(I had about double that but then droped about half). Well you seem to be doing better than the poor folks that had only a real small amount of rubies that got negative tria numbers. It seems that Xordan may have to pull another \'everyone redo\', I know that I would not be suprised ;)
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I realised that afterwards ramlambmoo... Sorry.
To correct you, I never said \"noobs\" perhaps you\'d like to read my post again?
6k tria with 100 rubies 11 emeralds seems odd, compared to 9.5k with 7 or 8 diamonds and however many rubies and emeralds...
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I only got the reserved message. :( :( :( :( :( :(
Your PlaneShift character Jageman has been placed on the reserve list for the account: ******@*****.***
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Yay with the bug fixed I got about 10K instead of 8K :)
No ring though :(
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Originally posted by ramlambmoo
For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 6611 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
I only had 100 rubies and 11 emeralds.
Wait I had like 6 dias so shouldnt I have like 30 K if he got 6K ?(
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It seems to be really messed up. Perhaps in a few days they will get it right.
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Originally posted by Efflixi Aduro
Yay with the bug fixed I got about 10K instead of 8K :)
No ring though :(
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Originally posted by ramlambmoo
For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 6611 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
I only had 100 rubies and 11 emeralds.
Wait I had like 6 dias so shouldnt I have like 30 K if he got 6K ?(
Using that logic I should have 630K, and others would have several million :P But obviously that would make things unbalanced. The system the devs used is obviously not linear, more like an exponential decay. That way everyone has similar amounts of tria, but those who collected more still have a bit more.
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Ah I see that would make it fair. So fire of soul and Kixie wouldnd have 1 billion :P
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when I re migrated, it lowered my trias 4,000!!!
XORDAN!!!!!!! :P
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 9936 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
im still not bad ;P
i mean i wasnt here for over 5 months
and i still got the ring thingy ^^
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I was never too good at the whole \"finding crystals\" bit...that and I only came 2 months ago, but for 7 Rubies and 1 Emerald I got 1150 trias...
Sure its not much, but for what I collected, I think it was pretty good...too bad I didn\'t collect more and get the ring though...:-/
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Sounds like the crystal-tria migration is becoming more trouble than its worth :P
-Zorium
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 8433 trias to spend.
ah, well.
it\'s more then nothing. :D
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I cant belive what im hearing. People are complaining for getting 4000 tria!
That should make you cry from joy considering a farmers monthly pay is about 200 tria!
The conversion rate was supp be 10:1 so it you had 10 rubies you got one tria. 500 rubies would be 50 tria. So fall on your knees and thank talad and laanx
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\"I cant belive what im hearing. People are complaining for getting 4000 tria!
That should make you cry from joy considering a farmers monthly pay is about 200 tria!
The conversion rate was supp be 10:1 so it you had 10 rubies you got one tria. 500 rubies would be 50 tria. So fall on your knees and thank talad and laanx\"
ummm yeah.. but if everyone suddenly has 10 times as much, then everything will be 10 times as expensive. Supply and demand. I mean not for basic items but for things that finite in numbers, or that the dev want to restrict, are going to become a whole lot more expensive because otherwise everyone would have them. Like a house for example. It\'s probablly going to cost like 1 million tria now because lots of people have started out with 5000-10000. I mean it isnt real life so the devs could make everything as cheap as they said before, but then pretty much anyone can buy anything, which is a bit pointless. We obviously wont know until we get into the game and find out the prices of everything, and ill be suprised if the prices stay the same as the ones they mentioned before in the player guide.
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actually i think some dev mentioned that it will be something like 100:1 (meaning i would get around 2 tria instead of almost seven thousand)
also, i only got a ring of the past on my past char, am i allowed to transfer it somehow? or would that be considered cheating since my new char only had time to collect 15 rubies (worth 880 tria)...
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You can transfer money and prehaps rings, although I think the rings are binded to the player, to other characters.
The formula for conversion wasn\'t a simple x:y. It wasn\'t linear at all, so lots of things were taken into account, which had lots of things done to them :)
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Originally posted by Efflixi Aduro
I cant belive what im hearing. People are complaining for getting 4000 tria!
That should make you cry from joy considering a farmers monthly pay is about 200 tria!
The conversion rate was supp be 10:1 so it you had 10 rubies you got one tria. 500 rubies would be 50 tria. So fall on your knees and thank talad and laanx
Originally posted by Xordan
is this page still the usable econemy page or has it become the econemy page of uselessness?
It isn\'t accurate.
Edit: Some people\'s email might not say that you have the ring, but you will do ingame.
as you see the Econemy is not all accurate so maybe we only got a farmers month pay... and Xordan also said that he would still call us poor so i dont really think 4K tria is that much
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with -1505 trias to spend.
does this mean that i have to pay at the beginning????
edit: i had:
Found 5 rubies, 0 emeralds, 0 diamonds
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Originally posted by Asraniel
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with -1505 trias to spend.
does this mean that i have to pay at the beginning????
edit: i had:
Found 5 rubies, 0 emeralds, 0 diamonds
No, it means you start with 0 :P
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The DeNap converts over:
For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 11339 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
Excellent!
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 4569 trias to
spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring
of the past\' item.
Pretty happy with it :)
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For 109 dias, 100+ rubys and some emeralds i got 15228 trias. Not bad, but i still cant buy me a pretosaur :(
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 7378 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
Hmm.. I think 7378 tria are more than enough to have a good start ^^
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 7518
trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the
special \'Ring of the past\' item.
do me :)
unless the beer is around 8000 a glass, then Im stumped :)
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 13138 trias to
spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring
of the past\' item.
I\'m pleased
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I wonder what this ring does...
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From here it looks as though having all your crystals in one giant hoarde actually means you end up being poorer, as the conversion multiplier seems to decrease the further up the scale you go. Somewhat harsh I think, but I \'m now quite glad I didn\'t get chance to combine all my accounts into one!
Anyway, my combined total is in the region of 49000.
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I did the Migration i only got my tria but no ring,.. or am i soupse to get a ring at all?
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Originally posted by Xordan
Some people\'s email might not say that you have the ring, but you will do ingame.
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i have received no E-mail. Well i guess i just have to wait.
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Some notes:
-The equation is logarithmic for conversion.
-There is a \'minimum\' amount of crystals for the ring reward.
-There *may* be a bug if you didn\'t have any crystals then it *might* not insert the name correctly and send the email. If you didn\'t have any crystals and didn\'t get an email then post here and I will take a look.
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acraig I got about 10000 so why didnt I get the ring but Schlaxo did and he has 7300. ?(
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In that case sounds like a bug. What was your characters name?
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Killerv
Re-checked the email I have 9000 not 10000. Still have more though
EDIT WAIT!! WAIT!!! STOP!!! It was quoted text so i couldnt see the ring of the past part unless I clicked a button. Stupid gmail...
Anyways everything is ok :D
Sorry for the trouble
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not that im complaing on havin 14k of tria and a funky ring, but it would be nice if i could have the 400k tria from the testing that i ran around the plaza clearing that bug lol
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I would pay to test it. Not be payed ;)
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I\'d like to know the exact code soon after release. It\'s confusing to me how even though I had 1120 diamonds, some people are saying that they got more tria than I did. No biggie, but I was hoping to be uber-rich :D
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Poor poor kixi. After all that time you spent hunting :P
I think he equation should be like this though. Or you would have like 1billion bucks while others had like two :P
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I think he equation should be like this though. Or you would have like 1billion bucks while others had like two
So in a capitalist society, whats wrong with that? Those who stive for the goods, get the goods, those that didn\'t don\'t. Seems simple to me....
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Well there would not be much of a problem with it except that some people cheated to get an enormous amount of crystals and then they would get an enormous amount of money without having earned it.
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I got about 3,064 tria and nothing else. Thats\'s what I get for giving things away. I need to be more greedy :)
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I only had like 11 rubies, so I got 209 tria, and no item. =( I have no idea how on Earth you all got so many crystals, I would look around for an hour and only find one or two of them. =/
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I started playing when there were not so many ppl, and for a period of about 6 months, if I tried, I could get 100 a day
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:S
I sented in my conversion thingamajig over 5 hours ago and haven\'t gotten an email yet.
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try checking your junkmail, wether you spelt your email addy correctly etc.
if not, let Acraig know, he\'ll try to help :)
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Typhorean, I just checked yours and it is ok. So most likely email either filtered out or lost on the way.
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heh, that was quicker then a quick thing, nice one Acraig :D
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Well i\'ve transfered, theres a few of you who owe me many many many diamonds (about 50 not including gifts) but ill let you off, im a nice guy really. (and I forgot till I realised I had nearly had as many tria as rubies)
The middle number of about 10000 R seems to equal about 14000 tria.
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the rate drops as you have more crystals kwartz, i got 14000 with 55d 11e 2 r, with the ring of thingymajiggy
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\"For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 8824 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of te past\' item.\"
For about 86r, 0e, 5d not too shabby. even got meself that nice little ring :)
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What if the second time, i messed up typing my email ?? Can i re-do it ?
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they just now redid the database, try it again. or talk to acraig about it.
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Redid the migration after more bugs were apperantly found.
For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 17049 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
I\'m curious what that ring is ^^
[edit] My crystal count was 2 rubies and 257 diamonds, \'case anyone\'s curious. -I- only collected 57 of them, the rest were from my mate ^^
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Ok, so I heard about the bugs. I apparently, now, have 12647 trias from 108 rubies 28 emeralds and 30 diamonds.
Does this sound correct?
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Originally posted by Reikshallus
Ok, so I heard about the bugs. I apparently, now, have 12647 trias from 108 rubies 28 emeralds and 30 diamonds.
Does this sound correct?
Yeah, probably is right.
Edit: You may or may not get the ring. You\'ll find out when you login :)
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And I still get the \"ring of the past\"?
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If it says you got the ring the you got it :)
If it might be in quoted text if you are using gmail. I had that problem and thought i didnt get it. But I got it.
EDIT wait do have to redo it a thrird time?
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yup, from my understanding, Kixie found a bug
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I would have thought Kixie found a bug... check out the crystal tally page (http://planeshift.fragnetics.com/crystal.php) ...
and notice Kixie in triplicate :rolleyes:
and in the re-migration, I got the exact same amount of tria as the first time.
*waits for the re-re-migration*
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yup my dias doubled up when i sold my galk and claymore. screwed up the tables. :P at least its over.
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Originally posted by mikedean
the rate drops as you have more crystals kwartz, i got 14000 with 55d 11e 2 r, with the ring of thingymajiggy
hmm, I got 17100 with 131d, 640e, 6809r
that\'s one heck of a rate drop! :(
(of course I\'m not complaining...I\'ll take it)
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\"-The equation is logarithmic for conversion. \"
wha ha ha thought so. Sorry just happy with myself for predicting this was going to happen. If any of the really active players had of thought of this, they could have created 10 seperate characters and distributed their diamond arounf, and ended up with twice or three times as much tria when they gave it all back to one character. Which is, i suspect, why the devs were so silent about how the conversion was going to happen before it did, to prevent this.
EDIT: omg i just realised why the bug happens as well. Because the log of a number between 0 and 1 is negative. My guess is the formula for Tria = log (x/y), where x = total value of gems, and y = somewhere between 1 and 10. This means if you had less than 10 or so rubies, x/y < 1, therefore the log must be negative. Thats why you end up with negative tria! mwha ha ha never thought all that maths would be of any use. If only the conversion rate was done on the parametric equations of hyperbole, then the other 99% of the stuff i learnt might be useful as well :P
EDIT 2: After much useless calculations i have assatained that the formula for tria (at least the old one) is
*** drumroll *****
Tria = log to the base z of (X/Y)
where z approx = 1.0004575
x = total value of your gems (rubies = 1, emaralds = 10, diamonds = 100)
y approx = 10.39646
nice to see if a dev will reply and tell me how close i got......
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This brings everything together - hence the \"if you have a certain number of gems you might get a special item\" post that made everybody consolidate their accounts in the hope of getting the item.
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For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 6808 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
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Originally posted by ramlambmoo
\"-The equation is logarithmic for conversion. \"
wha ha ha thought so. Sorry just happy with myself for predicting this was going to happen. If any of the really active players had of thought of this, they could have created 10 seperate characters and distributed their diamond arounf, and ended up with twice or three times as much tria when they gave it all back to one character. Which is, i suspect, why the devs were so silent about how the conversion was going to happen before it did, to prevent this.
EDIT: omg i just realised why the bug happens as well. Because the log of a number between 0 and 1 is negative. My guess is the formula for Tria = log (x/y), where x = total value of gems, and y = somewhere between 1 and 10. This means if you had less than 10 or so rubies, x/y < 1, therefore the log must be negative. Thats why you end up with negative tria! mwha ha ha never thought all that maths would be of any use. If only the conversion rate was done on the parametric equations of hyperbole, then the other 99% of the stuff i learnt might be useful as well :P
EDIT 2: After much useless calculations i have assatained that the formula for tria (at least the old one) is
*** drumroll *****
Tria = log to the base z of (X/Y)
where z approx = 1.0004575
x = total value of your gems (rubies = 1, emaralds = 10, diamonds = 100)
y approx = 10.39646
nice to see if a dev will reply and tell me how close i got......
Seems to be a pretty good deduction. Looks entirly possible that you\'re right :)
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Originally posted by Xordan
Originally posted by ramlambmoo
Tria = log to the base z of (X/Y)
where z approx = 1.0004575
x = total value of your gems (rubies = 1, emaralds = 10, diamonds = 100)
y approx = 10.39646
Seems to be a pretty good deduction. Looks entirly possible that you\'re right :)
Agreed. It would definately be interesting to see the devs official word on the whole matter, I\'m very interested to see how this crystal transfer business was handled code wise.
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i got a reply back from a dev, who said that my formula was close to correct. it is definatly a logarithmic formula, mines not exact but ive tested it for a range of values between 100 - 27000 gems and its very close. However they must have changed a bit for characters that have small amount of gems.
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Ok, here I go:
For your crystal collecting efforts you have been rewarded with 10601 trias to spend.
Because you were a skilled collector, you have also been given the special \'Ring of the past\' item.
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I got 12k trias and the ring.
I thought the rate would have been like 1k rubies = 1 tria,
nevermind, i\'ll be more greedy next time and not give crystals away :D
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I\'m wondering if the equation also took into account how long you had been hunting? As a sort of, anti cheat.
For example, a two week old player with 800r would get less than a four month old player with 800r?
[[shrug]]
So far, it appears I did pretty well...
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Ok, so there\'s an award for the power-gamers
...but is there any reward for us, noobie-helping poor sobs? ...i gave away all my gems several times (not that i had huge amounts of them). :( ...and AFAIR i\'ve been in MB since it\'s beging (on the forum probably since end AB).
and there\'s probably more players like me :(