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Gameplay => Wish list => Granted or negated Wishes => Topic started by: Valkyr on June 20, 2002, 10:34:13 pm

Title: Horses
Post by: Valkyr on June 20, 2002, 10:34:13 pm

I was orginally going to post a thread about pets, but then I realized pets would be to hard to make. (Too many pets would probably slow the server) So, if a player buys a horse they could ride it around. And if they use the \"run\" button they could move faster than someone on foot could. What do you think?

(I know this thread is very shallow, but I don\'t have much time to write it.)

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Post by: ParaSite on June 20, 2002, 11:20:58 pm

Who needs horses when you can FLY on a Pterosaur or Megaras?

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Post by: Valkyr on June 20, 2002, 11:47:47 pm

REALLY?!?! How much will they cost? But I think horses could be good for roleplaying reasons too. Also, they would cost less than the flying animals.

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Post by: Idealist on June 21, 2002, 09:21:56 am

Errr... the horse idea has been proven to work quite well... do we all remember that particualr rpg we call... Legends of Zelda: Ocraina of Time Epona was a hit and yes while the flying creatures are good for far travel but what if you need a quick ride from town to town it would be more sencible to take your horse

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Post by: ParaSite on June 21, 2002, 11:41:21 pm

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REALLY?!?! How much will they cost?

A lot :D No The price is somewhere on the settings pages on the website. But i get Idealist point, ill bring it up in the team later  :)

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Post by: WarLeader on June 22, 2002, 09:05:58 am

Every MMORPG has horses even everquest got horses

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Post by: lude on June 22, 2002, 06:14:28 pm

yea...horses could be a good thing for a quick ride up the stairs, and what not...horses are usefull, i asssume, for traveling up a level, where the flying creatures would be better off for flying up a level or two...so...i\'d kinda like to see horses too...wouldnt\' be too dissappointed if they decided not to put them in though....

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Post by: David_HD on June 23, 2002, 01:38:25 am

lude: or for traveling around on the same level, depending on the sizes of these levels...

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Post by: WarLeader on June 23, 2002, 01:45:09 am

Well see here i think if you like to PVP going after someone in the air would kinda piss me off but on a horse its running around on ground not as difficult

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Post by: kyalin on June 23, 2002, 02:08:09 am

That wont matter. PvP will only be in arenas

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Post by: Idealist on June 23, 2002, 11:06:22 pm

the horses would be good cause not only for transportation they can also be used in quests like if you had to deliver a type of mushroom that only keeps its magic powers for so long... you would go get the mushroom and bring it back simple  also this could open a nother section of the arena up for jousting :D

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Post by: ParaSite on June 23, 2002, 11:13:56 pm

Lol, no offence but besides that horses should be cheaper i havent senn anything of you that can\'t be done with a pterosaur but can be with a horse.  ?(

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Post by: Golbez on June 24, 2002, 03:01:59 am

I think that a Pterasaur or a Megaras wouldn\'t be useful if you want to go through a forest or a jungle. The trees don\'t allow them to land, and even if they fly low they wouldn\'t see much because of the trees. A horse would be more useful here.

Also, a flying creature would not be able to get inside a cave or tunnel, if there are any. Although I don\'t think a horse would agree with going inside, unless it trusts the owner a lot. Otherwise, they would refuse to enter.

Horses are good for a quick tour around town too. If you are on a flying creature, you are very likely to miss certain spots if you don\'t know the town well.

Pterasaurs would have a very hard time in cold weather, due to their reptilian nature (they probably are cold blooded). Perhaps they tire easier when flying on those regions, or even die. There should definitely be downsides for riding a Megaras too, but I really cannot think of any right now.

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Post by: David_HD on June 24, 2002, 05:13:37 am

And besides, cost alone is enough!
There\'s always a basic version and a better version and a better version of anything in games. It\'s the way they work. The cheapest mode of transportation (aside from walking) probably SHOULD be horses...

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Post by: TheGeneral on June 24, 2002, 07:15:20 am

I would like this question answered.
If u r flying one of these things, and all of a sudden decide to land, and go on foot, what will happen to your bird?
Will it just dissapear, or will it sit there waiting for u?
And if it will just sit there, what if u get killed while on foot, and u respawn somewhere REALLY far way (ex: u died and left your stuff on lvl 6, and u respawned on lvl 2) how will u be able to get it?  And from what i got on the site, thses things are really expensive, like 400 good steel swords!!!!! 8o Can you answer to any problems that can be asociated with that?

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Post by: ParaSite on June 24, 2002, 01:33:17 pm

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I would like this question answered.
If u r flying one of these things, and all of a sudden decide to land, and go on foot, what will happen to your bird?
Will it just dissapear, or will it sit there waiting for u?
And if it will just sit there, what if u get killed while on foot, and u respawn somewhere REALLY far way (ex: u died and left your stuff on lvl 6, and u respawned on lvl 2) how will u be able to get it? And from what i got on the site, thses things are really expensive, like 400 good steel swords!!!!!  Can you answer to any problems that can be asociated with that?

Hmmm, things like this are details, we\'re going to think of that as soon as it\'s neccesary. In other words, we don\'t have a clue yet :)

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Post by: Corvette on July 04, 2002, 02:55:04 am

If you\'re going to have horses, I think that it would be cool if there was different breeds of horses, some are better but more expensice.. and so on.

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Post by: Darkmoon on July 04, 2002, 06:47:06 am

How about instead of horses, we think along different lines?  For example, in the Underdark, Drow ride giant lizards and spiders that walk on any surface with the rider strapped into the saddle.  An underground environment, in my opinion, is not suitable for horses (which is an above-ground, needs-wide-open-spaces-to-run creature).  We\'re not trying to fool or convince players that they\'re not underground.  A new species of mounts could even be designed, unique to PS.  There could even be several different species of trained mounts at varying costs, so as to be affordable to most everyone.  The more expensive the mount, the better it is.  Can also be used to display character status.  Thoughts?

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Post by: Cyonamie on July 05, 2002, 06:59:09 am

horses have been brought up many times, and pets would be no biggy, on every quest, with about 40 people to a zone, and most of um could summon pets, it didnt lag much on a 48k modem(yeah they make those:) ).  i got a cable tho, it was my neighbors computer lol

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Post by: WarLeader on July 05, 2002, 02:48:15 pm

Slow down the server not at all if you have a horse with a max of 1000 polies that should be nothing for the server and 40 of them is that much i mean terran is around 50,000 polies why would horses slow down the server?

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Post by: WarLeader on July 05, 2002, 02:49:49 pm

oh and one more thing not just that horses are added in an animation with your character lol so you would be add the horse below you character so there shouldnt be no lag

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Post by: elKano on July 05, 2002, 05:12:55 pm

I think the problem of lagging when you have lot of polys at a scene is not a problem of the setver but the client, because the server just sends the position of each character, but the client has to render it.
I don\'t know if the server sends the position of all the characters in the world or just the ones you can see; if it sends, as I think, all of them, it doesn\'t matter at all to have 40 or 10000 characters visible, if all of them are in the world, at least from the server side.

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Post by: WarLeader on July 05, 2002, 05:20:56 pm

You are right and wrong it does hafta render it but that doesnt cause that much lag depending on how you render and knowing what your are doing polies play alot in lag if you have a low poly model of 100 in a field of 50,000 you are gonna less lag then 1000 char poly of 100,000 terran

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Post by: TheGeneral on July 05, 2002, 10:19:27 pm

Horses shmorses, who need them when you can fly? :))
And if it is some sort of transportation for noobs, just make a bunch of portals that lead to the main areas, kind of like in D2! :D

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Post by: Idealist on July 06, 2002, 08:05:55 am

Yes I am glad to see that you are all thinking... now who was it that said something about the breeds of horses this would be a veary veary good idea... also we could implement a means of a stable... and you could breed horses and buy horse items there... and also it would be nice if you could possibly race the horses in an arena and get cash or other prizes speacial saddels and grains that would impove the attributes of your horse
as for breeding you could make it so that each player can own 2 horses at a time... a male and a female... once you breed the two animals you must sell an one of the parents to the stable for money(of corse the money will depend on the attributes of the horse stamina vitality dextarity ect.)or both of the animals and buy new bloodlines and such also there should be a title to all the horses so that players could sell there horses to others I honestly think that it would be nice to sell your prime mare to somebody for any price you ask instead of selling to the stable all of those who need more info on what i am getting at check chochobo farming on ff7

also Thegeneral your an idiot horses would not be for n00bs and also the wp\'s on d2 sucked  we want an item of quality

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Post by: TheGeneral on July 06, 2002, 10:28:41 pm

What kind of a moron would buy a horse when he can fly? R u thinking, or completely blacked out by your ignorance?
And as for the portals, i believe that the dev team has already decided that they will introduce some sort of a portal system to other places.
As you said yourself, we want an item of quality, WTF would u put horses in the game ?(
No self respecting player would want to be seen on a horse when he can fly a massive bird!

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Post by: WarLeader on July 07, 2002, 10:31:34 am

well some people prefer staying on the ground then flying some advantage will also be on ground that flying doesnt have. On the ground you can see all the nifty trees :P and stuff at close view. I think flying will be two hard to control if you trying to click something you can maybe fall to the ground and get ganked by orcs

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Post by: TheGeneral on July 07, 2002, 06:53:12 pm

I am sure there would be an option of flying down low, like the tree level, or up high to reach the other levels of the crystal. And as for the controls, it\'s not going to be like flying an F16 fighter plane, with all the buttons and controls you have to press just to get in of the ground :D , this is a game for crying out loud, they will make it simple to operate. (And if not, that could be the fun part, making fly properly :] )

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Post by: WarLeader on July 07, 2002, 09:00:19 pm

well, in that case if your able to do that im guessing horses are no use but i would still like to see horsies :)

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Post by: Tearlach t'an Ailech fin Leros on July 09, 2002, 02:14:23 am

I rather ride a gigantic spider than some boring horse and a spider is more realistic than an horse in a underground world, you mentioned forset, the developers have said that there won\'t be any or very very few trees because of lag, besides this is an underground world and trees need alot of ultraviolet light.
three, portals will probably not make it in the game cause developer have said that it will be more fun if the world looks bigger, if you can teleport around, the world will look small and it won\'t be as interesting to go and explore and if you have to drag your lazy body everywhere instead of teleporting it could be more \"hidden\" cities and things to encourage people to go and discover.

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Post by: TheGeneral on July 09, 2002, 05:45:59 am

HA, i am not alone. :D  Thank you Tearlach t\'an Ailech fin Leros for that. :]
For someone that does not look like a dev, you seem to know alot about this. Maybe there is something else you would like to educate us about.........in other words, SPILL IT! :D

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Post by: Leodinus on July 10, 2002, 10:09:10 am

Why not have a breeding system?  Not just horses, but a variety of creatures.  Horses get a bit dull.  How about the ability to ride a skeleton bear (for example) (I know you are asking how can you breed those...bah..magic!)..more variety you know.  A pet to fit each personality :D

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Post by: Magdalena on August 13, 2002, 02:02:22 am

i think if you have horses you should be able to have wagons.  it\'s make it nice for those who wanted to travel in groups with friends family or guilds.

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Post by: Cyonamie on August 13, 2002, 04:57:57 am

theres a post from like half a year ago on it, ill try to bump it up