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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Robinmagus on December 28, 2004, 07:06:32 pm

Title: Raven Guard
Post by: Robinmagus on December 28, 2004, 07:06:32 pm
Zellgadess and I have made a new guild called Raven Guard. We will have  proper history, ranks ect. up later. Zellgadess is also working on a site. Plz post any ideas for the new guild. Oh and post if u wanna join too :)
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Post by: Valbrandr on December 28, 2004, 07:10:58 pm
Ahh.. So Zellgades has finaly settled down.  No more courting I guess.  Good luck with your guild.
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Post by: Robinmagus on December 29, 2004, 04:18:23 am
Heh. Zell got a site up. here it is! http://ravenguard.50megs.com/
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Post by: Kwip on December 29, 2004, 07:43:50 am
Nice name, nice site(though the remote image linking signs are a little annoying), and the makings of a wonderful guild :D Would join the Guard but am already in a guild that I like.

Good luck to thee, ZellGa\'dess the Great, and to your partner Robinmagus, in what seems to be the begining of a great guild :)
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Post by: Zellgadess on December 29, 2004, 10:31:08 am
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Originally posted by Robinmagus
Zellgadess and I have made a new guild called Raven Guard. We will have proper history, ranks ect. up later. Zellgadess is also working on a site. Plz post any ideas for the new guild. Oh and post if u wanna join too :)


Wow.... what a captivating and mind blowing intro Robin! = P

These people need stunning pictures to capture there attention! *Zell clicks his fingers*

(http://www.geocities.com/zellgadess/ravenguard.jpg)
(ok it is a bit bland....)

^_^

Now for some Information!!
*click*

The Raven Guard, is a new Neutral Good guild, with new ideals and ideas. We are not bound by outdated rules of old, we are here to change with time. Although we adapt, we will always live by the two sides of the raven. We will always Uphold and Fight for good.

As a good hearted person wanting to join Raven Guard these rules should come naturally, but this is all for clarification purposes. All of the things here are considered Evil and will result in being removed and shunned by the guild for the rest of time.

--Cheating of any kind is Evil, no matter how small will result in us turning you in to a Game Master.

--Any Type of abuse of other players, all abuse will be reported to a GM (note: Comical Role playing insults are aloud to me used against people\'s of evil nature, you know the difference. \"Your Father was a hamster! and your mother smelled of elderberries!\"

--Greed is Selfish and leads to corruption!, Thus, it is Evil! Stealing, Coning and Hording the communities wealth for your self is Strictly Forbidden!

--Murdering without reason...

--By having a character in the Raven Guard you agree that you have no other characters in other guilds and never will. If you want to spy, use in game tactics, don\'t cheat! Give Robinmagus a couple of pints and he\'ll tell you anything!

--Inactive! Ggggrrr!! One thing this guild wont be is inactive, if you are going away you must inform us, if you don\'t feel like Planeshift anymore inform us, Inactive members will be deleted, The amount of inactive guilds is amazing, Raven Guard will not! become one of them ^_^

Well there\'s those hard and nasty rules out of the way
As I said the Raven has two sides, One of Serious Warfare, the other of Enjoying the True meaning of goodliness.

(http://www.geocities.com/zellgadess/upholding.jpg)
For love of life we shall embrace friends, enjoy the good that we have in this plane. We will share drinks and stories in taverns across all of Yliakum. We will laugh and sing in awful choruses and harmonies. We will always help foreigners, new to this land, showing them the path of good. Teaching that the forces of Evil are a right smelly lot. We shall travel through all of Yliakum, Finding new things and meeting new friends. Most of all we will band together and help each other become whatever they desire. With love, hope, sharing and drinking ^_^ we shall keep good pure and true.

(http://www.geocities.com/zellgadess/fighting.jpg)
Forever we are battling the forces of evil, as it discuses its ugly face in many a place. Forever we keep a stern face, a face that has seen too much blood shed, a face that is ready to see more. A face of sternness forever we shall have, as we search out and destroy evil where it lurks. We WILL NOT sit on our hands and wait for the evils to over whelm the true forces of greater good. We SHALL be active in ridding the world of such evil. We will respect laws of good, that are for the people. We will shatter laws of evil that benefit only cowardly boys pretending to be big kings on big thrones. -.- it\'s true. All kings are cowards who hide behind armies and castle walls.

We are a guild of new, so we do not have a history. But join us in our battle for good and you will be come part of our great history in years to come!

And there you have it    -Zell
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Post by: seperot on December 29, 2004, 10:43:27 am
your links are forbidden \\o/
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Post by: Robinmagus on December 29, 2004, 08:57:00 pm
Bah! my intro was good enough. it was midnight and i had just finished the ranks. i wasn\'t about to sit down and write like half a page.
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Post by: DepthBlade on December 30, 2004, 12:17:33 am
Mmmm nice name indeed, looks like you put some real work into what your making. Good luck!

Response to Private Message: No we don\'t allign with anyone outside of the Chaotic Good Allignment unless the need is desperate. Sorry
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Post by: Robinmagus on December 30, 2004, 07:32:15 pm
NVM
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Post by: Zan on December 30, 2004, 09:34:32 pm
I like the name of this guild and what effort has been put into it so far.

I \'m a fairly new player to the game but it looks like I \'ll be sticking around, or at least returning when time allows me to.

I could use some more help getting around in the game and it \'s always nice to get to know people so I figured I \'d join.
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Post by: Robinmagus on December 30, 2004, 11:15:27 pm
Figured, eh? ...We do not take ppl who \"figure\" to join. You have to be devoted to fighting for good. (heh. dont worry dude. im goin easy on ya. i had this speech bout a month and a half ago. know how u feel.) ;)

EDIT: i mean fight in a good way. not a caotic way. and plz. look at all other guilds before joining this 1. i made that mistake once. dont want u to too.make sure its the right one.
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Post by: Zellgadess on December 31, 2004, 12:18:44 am
I completely agree, we are not here to... oh might as well... we are here to fight and uphold good!!! ^_^

If you are not shure, take your time till you are.
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Post by: Icefalcon on December 31, 2004, 03:12:46 am
Hmm, kinda a mix between the two extreme good guilds, Mirth and Rebirth. Interesting...
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Post by: Waylander on December 31, 2004, 03:31:46 am
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Figured, eh? ...We do not take ppl who \"figure\" to join. You have to be devoted to fighting for good. (heh. dont worry dude. im goin easy on ya. i had this speech bout a month and a half ago. know how u feel.) ;)

EDIT: i mean fight in a good way. not a caotic way. and plz. look at all other guilds before joining this 1. i made that mistake once. dont want u to too.make sure its the right one.


I like dis idea bt i thnk dat u shld use ful wrds, thx :P

But seriously, an amazingly good site guys, especialy for a new guild, I usualy don\'t post in these guild thread because I am already in a guild of my liking, and it is even more rare that I post a good comment.

The ranks are well done, the idea, though not overly original, is very well presented, and you have a nice color coded ranking system.

I would suggest that you work on your grammar, some of the older people will even look over their messages before posting them.  And the edit button is quite the beauty for...ummm...editing :D

Anyways, chances are I will have to kill you one day, but I do not look forward to it....much :)
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Post by: Robinmagus on December 31, 2004, 03:43:03 am
Aye. Thanks for the good comments. The \"well done\" ranks are done by yours truly :) Of cource. the site and most of the rest of everything was done by zellgadess. i give him full credit. Kill me? i plan to have many elders and rouges protecting me by then.

P.S. if you liked us. make it count. vote at the tavern! we\'re gettin creamed!

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Post by: Zellgadess on December 31, 2004, 08:42:05 am
Thanks for the kind words guys, im still not shure about the side bar\'s background.....  hhmmm

Well anyway our forum\'s up!, Sign up and say ello!

we\'re tieing for 3rd with knowledge seekers at the tavern poll!, hehe, look at the member difference ^_^

Help push the balance (our way) at http://www.thebbb.tk
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Post by: Zan on December 31, 2004, 12:16:33 pm
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Figured, eh? ...We do not take ppl who \"figure\" to join. You have to be devoted to fighting for good. (heh. dont worry dude. im goin easy on ya. i had this speech bout a month and a half ago. know how u feel.) ;)

EDIT: i mean fight in a good way. not a caotic way. and plz. look at all other guilds before joining this 1. i made that mistake once. dont want u to too.make sure its the right one.


Yeah well I can be quite the stubborn person with a lil bit of a problem with authority. That \'s why I barely come over as devoted to most causes.
However I am also a good team player and loyal to the team once I join. My stubborness is usually made up by my honor and loyalty. Once I know I \'m also wanted I will be devoted.

So ..  nice speech ..  but I just want to say blind devotion isn\'t everything either ;) I \'d rather have members who are sometimes reluctant but think for themselvers than those who are devoted and follow blindly. Of course sometimes one has to do the latter as well.

Oh and you don\'t have to hold back on me .. I can take it! *bangs fist against his chest* .. owwww *cringes* Dang that armor \'s hard! (yes I also have a sense of humor sometimes :P )
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Post by: Robinmagus on December 31, 2004, 07:14:19 pm
Have you not been listening little grasshopper? We are a guild of new, that are not held back by laws of old. Blindly following a leader is a law of old. i meant blindly fighting for good :) well, not that either. anyway. in this guild you do not \"follow.\" We are all equals. only diffrence between us is a name of a rank. work hard. get the game down. and you too will share that rank. You can try out Zan. Post in my new sticky on the raven guard forums. we will take you in as a new born raven test u watch u blah blah blah...and is you qualify. you are in.
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Post by: Phinehas on January 01, 2005, 04:06:26 pm
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We are all equals. only diffrence between us is a name of a rank.


So basically, you\'re all equals... except not really? :P
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Post by: Kiva on January 01, 2005, 04:32:05 pm
I\'m just curious... What\'s a Raven, and why would you want to guard it? And what is that strange yellow glowing orb in the picture?

(OOC: You do know Ravens are a symbol of evil and death and such, right? I\'m not sure it would be smart to put that together with being goodies... Especially not if you guard the Ravens. Maybe we have a secretly evil guild in the making, here? ) :)

A dictionary.com copy/paste:


rav?en2   Audio pronunciation of \"Raven\" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (rvn)
v. rav?ened, rav?en?ing, rav?ens
v. tr.

   1. To consume greedily; devour.
   2. To seek or seize as prey or plunder.


v. intr.

   1. To seek or seize prey or plunder.
   2. To eat ravenously.


n.

    Variant of ravin.


rav?in also rav?en   Audio pronunciation of \"ravin\" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (rvn)
n.

   1. Voracity; rapaciousness.
   2. Something taken as prey.
   3. The act or practice of preying.
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Post by: Zan on January 01, 2005, 08:25:28 pm
Raven symbolism isn\'t restricted to \'evil\' things you know.

\"In Alaska, the Koyukon see the raven as the Creator of the Earth, moon, stars, people and sun. Oral history relates that the raven first made people from rocks, but they proved to be too strong, so the raven destroyed the people and recreated them with sand instead. The Koyukon also described the raven as a trickster. They say that the raven put mosquitoes on the earth to plague the people because, at the time, their way of life had no difficulties. They also say that water once flowed in two directions at the same time, but again the raven believed that it made life too easy for people, so he made the water flow only downstream. Because of these beliefs, the Koyukon consider the raven to be sacred. It is considered strong taboo to kill a raven in their culture.\"

\"Among the aboriginal peoples of the Pacific northwest coast of North America, the Master of Life takes the form of a raven.  It is Raven who welcomes humans as they emerge from a pea pod or a clamshell.  In a different cycle of myths, it is Raven who swallows the Moon, and he insinuates himself into the world of human beings by transforming into a mere pine needle.\"

And even in more modern and recent things ravens can play a positive role. Look at the Raven\'s tower in Great Brittain. Here the ravens represent the wellbeing of the Brittish royalty.

One shouldn\'t refer to a dictionary when trying to say something about symbolism. Dictionaries are used for literal and *some* figurative meanings of words.

Also the phrase Raven Guard doesn\'t have to imply guarding a raven ;)
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 02, 2005, 12:04:07 am
The \"orb\" is a little thing called the \"azure\" sun -.- Secondly. The Raven thing was my idea. i had read a book about a white raven a few days before. it showed change in the species (we show change in guilds.) and symbolized peace (as do we) i hope that explains it. well..the orb is goin down..time to sleep -.- Well done zan! Bravo Bravo!encore!!

O and when i said equals i meant that a apprentices opinion counts as much as an elders or even the master ravens.
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Post by: Zellgadess on January 02, 2005, 01:13:08 am
Good stuff Zan, Also nice to see your promoting bias by leaving out this one

ra?ven1    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (rvn)
n.
A large bird (Corvus corax) having black plumage and a croaking cry.

;)

I dont like stereotypying things, I got some things from http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/ravens/ravens.html

\"Generally, birds don\'t get credit for being smart animals. Just think of the way the expression \"bird-brained\" is used. But corvids, which include magpies, crows, and ravens in particular, flutter in the face of this negative stereotype. Their behavior is often so clever, cunning, fun-loving, smart, and witty that it has motivated researchers to try to explain why. In fact, some scientists consider these black-feathered scavengers\' position on the intelligence spectrum to be on par with canids such as wolves, coyotes, and dogs, and have conducted experiments to try to quantify the raven\'s brain power\"

\'NATURE\'s Ravens explores how these all-black creatures acquired their dual and contradictory images -- as birds of both life and death\'


The Raven Has Two Sides, One Of Upholding good, one of defeating Evil

What are ravens?? maby you should look at the \"ravens came to your house when u were born\" specal event ^_^
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 02, 2005, 03:23:55 am
All very nice reasons. heres another. yes. ravens might symbolize evil and darkness. but the term \"we will kill for the greater good\" means we wil kill. even if it is in an evil way. as long as ts for the greater good.
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Post by: Kiva on January 02, 2005, 04:09:12 am
Alright, I suppose you proved your point... But that doesn\'t mean I\'ll keep less of an eye on you... You sound like trouble. :)
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 02, 2005, 04:27:21 am
trouble? you can say that if u beleive that the way older guilds are run is the right way. if u change with time. we are good
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Post by: Merdarion on January 04, 2005, 12:19:29 am
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(OOC: You do know Ravens are a symbol of evil and death and such, right? I\'m not sure it would be smart to put that together with being goodies... Especially not if you guard the Ravens. Maybe we have a secretly evil guild in the making, here? ) :)


And one little thingy that most forget Ravens are one of the most intelligent race of the birds.
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 04, 2005, 12:26:26 am
All so very true
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Post by: Phinehas on January 04, 2005, 10:10:50 am
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(OOC: You do know Ravens are a symbol of evil and death and such, right? I\'m not sure it would be smart to put that together with being goodies... Especially not if you guard the Ravens. Maybe we have a secretly evil guild in the making, here? ) :)


And one little thingy that most forget Ravens are one of the most intelligent race of the birds.


True, but personally my money is on the Minah Bird Guild.

Also, what I don\'t get is... the Master RAVEN of the RAVEN guard is named ROBINmagus. How does that work?
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 04, 2005, 07:17:24 pm
lol ya robin is the name of a bird too. i used to be called ravenmagus ;) and besides. there r 2 master ravens
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Post by: Phinehas on January 04, 2005, 07:22:23 pm
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lol ya robin is the name of a bird too.


That\'s got to be the single most amazing statement I\'ve seen on these forums.
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 04, 2005, 07:23:48 pm
Ya. I amaze myself sometimes too.
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Post by: Phinehas on January 04, 2005, 07:26:09 pm
It\'s so awesome it\'s almost scary. I feel unworthy, unclean. I cannot bear the honor of your presence. Such wisdom is beyond all comprehension.
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Post by: seperot on January 04, 2005, 08:37:10 pm
*seperot attempts to post something but is blocked by the sheer scarcasm that Phinehas is putting out*
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Post by: Phinehas on January 05, 2005, 12:05:52 pm
It\'s always nice to be appreciated in one\'s own lifetime. :D

Back OT: Do you really think it\'s such a great idea to set yourself up as boss when you start a new guild? I mean, personally I know that if I joined a guild, I\'d like to have a chance to make the top ranks, how much of a chance is there for others to make it to Master Raven?
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 05, 2005, 07:15:38 pm
The chance? I\'d say if one of the master ravens went inactive...the highest some1 exept me and zell could get is head of the council of elders, which is pretty high. high enough for me if i where to join this guild. and besides. at least we\'re not one of those one man ruled guilds.. [EDIT] im considering letting in a third master raven...so the chance is slim..but still there, unlike other guilds....[/EDIT]
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Post by: Zellgadess on January 07, 2005, 04:51:30 am
Ive already got to share power with one dim wit, another?? the things I do =^_^=
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Post by: Phinehas on January 07, 2005, 12:51:32 pm
Well, it\'s up to you, but you\'re statement that you\'re not a one-man run guild is kinda funny, since you\'re  two-man run guild.
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 07, 2005, 07:09:13 pm
Two man guild...i\'d say guilds like that will be less bias than one man shows.
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Post by: Moogie on January 16, 2005, 10:27:45 pm
\"Bump\" spam deleted.


1. Bumping threads for no purpose is considered a Stupid Pointless Annoying Message. This includes editing a post in a thread for the sole purpose of bumping that thread up.

2. Posting something with 1 or 2 words and no real purpose or meaning is also considered a Stupid Pointless Annoying Message.

3. Having a big OT conversation about it afterwards is also considered Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages. Except when Draklar posted, because he was right, and you were wrong. :)


Zan, you agreed to the rules that were presented to you when you created your account. There is also a sticky thread about why posts are deleted in the Hydlaa Plaza forum. There is no excuse not to understand forum etiquette here.


Ok, back on topic.
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Post by: Phinehas on January 17, 2005, 12:18:54 pm
OOC: Errr.... Moogie just made a whole post totally unrelated to the topic whatsoever. :D

IC: Sure, a two-man leadership is better, but think about it. Even a shared dictatorship is still a dictatorship. Or do you have terms of office?
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Post by: Robinmagus on January 21, 2005, 05:34:13 am
terms of ofices we have! or will have in a bit...well. the council counts. so its not a dictatorship at all.  

[EDIT edited?? y??? [/EDIT]
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Post by: Phinehas on February 11, 2005, 09:17:19 am
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terms of ofices we have!

LOL What\'s that? Yoda?

A dictatorship you are. Fail you will. :P
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Post by: ltabdiel on February 11, 2005, 06:53:10 pm
and on with the definitions:

dic?ta?tor?ship   Audio pronunciation of \"dictatorship\" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (dk-ttr-shp, dkt-)
n.

   1. The office or tenure of a dictator.
   2. A state or government under dictatorial rule.
   3. Absolute or despotic control or power.


dictatorship

n : a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.) [syn: absolutism, authoritarianism, Caesarism, despotism, monocracy, one-man rule, shogunate, Stalinism, totalitarianism, tyranny]

note that the ruler is an absolute dictator, in this case there are rulers and they have last word but if all goes as described they base their decisions on what the rest of the guild wants.  Also a government based upon multiple rulers is called a diarchy, in the event of a third ruler it would be a triarchy.  I believe that you were trying to imply that there would be no voice of the people considered because that is what a dictatorship is, whereas in this guild if I remember right everyone\'s opinion is considered as equal.

Oh, and China is a dictatorhip and they seem to be doing just splendid! ;)
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Post by: Phinehas on February 11, 2005, 07:06:41 pm
Indeed. You\'re a monarchy. And by the way, if you knew anything about China, or how the people there live, you wouldn\'t say they were doing fine.
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Post by: Robinmagus on February 12, 2005, 04:43:35 am
thx for the nice opinions?? well. we might be a dictatorship seeing as zellgadess has more important matters to atend to (good for nothing school) So...we\'re lookin for a member who can help zellgadess out with the website :D Just be able to do minor changes...add news..But im sure zell will be back in the summer.
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Post by: ltabdiel on February 15, 2005, 12:10:35 am
I could do that as I am pretty good a t coding and what not, but I am kinda new at the game, so I can help you guys out with the site if you want me to join.
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Post by: Robinmagus on February 16, 2005, 02:05:11 am
want u to join???? of cource! your our only hope! your in! your in! THANK YOU TALAD!! (i was about to lose  hope) I\'ll tell Zellgadess to get in touch with you. and i just gotta say somethin... YOU see that!? i told you we wouldnt die!!! now that thats over. check out the site http://www.ravenguard.tk or http://www.ravenguard.50megs.com. E-mail Zellgadess. We will help you out with the game.
Zellgadess@hotmail.com
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Post by: Valbrandr on February 16, 2005, 02:41:00 am
It is good to see that your guild site can be updated now.  Hopefully this guy will be a good member to Raven Guard.  Good luck and I hope you can attract some good recruits.
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Post by: Robinmagus on February 16, 2005, 03:25:09 am
Yeah. it could have been updated before as well! But dam zell wouldn\'t listen to me. I told him to drop out..i told him...

Oh and wow. my last post had 3 links. there goes my old record
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Post by: ltabdiel on February 20, 2005, 10:48:34 pm
ok, I just sent zell an email, I am gonna go hop on Planeshift. 8)
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Post by: Robinmagus on February 21, 2005, 01:11:38 am
great! hehehe. perfect...my plan is comeing together...world domination! :P
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Post by: Phinehas on February 21, 2005, 03:22:57 pm
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great! hehehe. perfect...my plan is comeing together...world domination! :P

*Phinehas nudges Robinmagus with the end of his cane.*
Psst... don\'t daydream in your own thread. It\'s embarrassing.
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Post by: ltabdiel on February 21, 2005, 06:15:46 pm
He said to email him about me being a webmaster and what not, on Planshift I am Veniel Acam if you can send me an invite on there.  Also, you can catch me on msn as ltabdiel@hotmail.com if you want to do that, just don\'t try to email me there because I never check it.

Edit: my spelling sucks when I wake up in the morning
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Post by: Krayn on February 22, 2005, 03:45:31 am
I know I put his on Raven guard again thread. But, I want to make sure you know I want to join and PS isn\'t working for me now when it does I will tell ya my char\'s name.