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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Annah on January 05, 2005, 10:59:39 pm
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EXSEQUOR
THE HIDDEN SOCIETY
?Exsequor (Latin word): To follow to the grave, follow to the end, follow someone forever, vow eternal loyalty?
Exsequor is more than a guild, is a hidden society, composed from selected members from the PS realms. It has no connections with other guilds, so its members can be in any of them.
MEMBERS
Aelya
Annah
Atticus
Caldazar
Devoted
Errion
Lavana
Link
Kada-El
Karyuu
Kiern
Sangwa
Tybalt
Windwalker
Zeus
GOALS
The society was created mainly to serve the PS community, and even if most of us are in ?Evil Aligned? guilds, we hope that we shall do good and brave deeds.
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From early times of the human race, people had a trait that even now ?consumes? our minds. Curiosity ? So, also one of our goals is gathering info, which of course will remain only between the Society members.
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Each of us has personal problems. And what is the best way to solve them? Together with our best friends! The Society is composed only by friends, and we all vowed ?exsequor? to each other, so we will help between us without thinking at consequences.
Some rumors apperead on these forums, rumors started by a very ambitious man, Seperot. So, it was a matter of time until truth would have been found out.
What it matters is that for more than one year since the Society was created, we managed to stay in the shadows, helping the community in any way possible.
But now, that people know of its existence, doesn\'t mean we\'ll turn to shades, we\'ll be here forever ... ;)
Exsequor until the end!
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great mostly obvious and now people know that there members have been working for an underground cause good for you :)
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shouldn\'t this be somewhere outside the guilds forum, concidering the fact you can\'t join, it aint a society that people can use and that there isn\'t a visible goal.
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Secret sociaty? I think not. more like, everyone knows your there now society :P and the name....seems like its one of the names i would think of :P
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Exsequor (Latin word): To follow to the grave, follow to the end, follow someone forever, vow eternal loyalty
sooo... where exactly does doing that \"PUNK*D!\" cra... stuff to Link fit into?
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Well Dorbian, This thread is not a \"Join us\" thread, furthermore a \"Hello here are we\" Thread.
that there isn\'t a visible goal.
?Exsequor (Latin word): To follow to the grave, follow to the end, follow someone forever, vow eternal loyalty?
If you read the post the Goal is quite clear.
Its a group of PS-players that stays together,
They gather knowledge together,
They have fun together,
They solve problems together
And the ARE together.
They are loyal to each other.
They are Friends,
like an adventuring group,
Not such one like we have now in CB
(Just standing around the rogues spawn place
and killing it as soon as it spawns)
They are like a D&D Roleplaying group.
They are a small community themselves.
I really like the idea of having a guild like this around,
I wish you good look.
P.S.:
Just to have it said:
This is only a suggestion i made while reading the post,
Its what i think over Exsequor, and i dont know how true
or not true this is.
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well this shows how updated some members are about it....
so Annah has his \"hidden\" fan club. who the hell cares?
lol
i remember that
that was a long time ago..
never did have any use... didnt even learn anything from it
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heh
Seperot: either you\'re outdated or Annah lives with past
ok, I think the answer is obvious
:F
meh if Tybalt and Sangwa are in there, it means he still tries to keep it alive
well this ist eh first ive heard from it for about....10 months
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The hidden society? So you figure since you have all these names on there that it is \"Elite TopDog Society\"? Well and they called me crazy, looks like someone new takes my role and no longer do my guild members look odd :) Have fun with the Annah Fan Club, maybe I can get a autograph later?
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Are we all reading the same thread?
Don\'t get all threatened by Annah\'s speech Depthblade. He simply said that the members were selected and that\'s very subjective. If you think we\'re elite than thank you for the flattering thought, but that was not what was written by Annah.
Don\'t try to make us look bad, you sound like you\'re jealous.
Anyway, you all know about the CIA right? But I bet you don\'t know half of what it has done. Spend more time thinking about things and less time thinking how to flame them. It\'s not hard, just give it a try ;).
Nothing\'s perfect Seperot :P.
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Oh I am not jealous by this really just getting a kick out of how anyone could sign up for this..but its starting to become clear the more I talk to those members on this list ^^
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Why wouldn\'t anyone sign up for this? What\'s the bad thing about being part of a society of friends that claims to serve the PS Community? I can\'t see anything wrong about it. Your imagination betrays you, right now you must be trying to find out hidden complots and traces of our past activity :P.
Even if we don\'t seem to serve the PS community I\'m sure we\'re doing a better work not spoiling it than you are.
Let me try to make something clear: We\'re not a group of people going around claiming to the skies that we\'re superior to all mortals; we\'re a group of friends who tries to improve itself and the PS community while tending to each other\'s personal affairs.
And I\'m glad The Society members have made it more clear to you. It might be strange for you to accept it, but we don\'t want you to be ignorant. And maybe it\'ll make you cease your pointless and offensive posts.
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its mainly funny because me depthblade grakrim and saint nuc could have all been member had we not laughed at him :P
you do also know that annah originally had this idea for a guild then changed it...and interesting some people reactions to *oh that?*
most likeing annah will ride it like Black order and never update anthing...like he already has been :P
and also i thought you said you moved on annah but your still stuck in your past :D
and finnaly sangwa.....words fail me about seeing you in that list...truely
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Bah, you did an awesome job keeping yourselves hidden. I never knew about it. But If I were you, I wouldn\'t have ever let the secret out. It kinda spoils the fun, don\'t you think?
And if Sep was on to you, kill him and throw him into a river. Nobody would have known he was gone. :D
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I don\'t think showing ourselves was a mistake. I\'m not an old member, so I can\'t say any better ^^.
Everyone chooses what they think it\'s best. If I didn\'t see it like something worth joining I wouldn\'t join either. Maybe it won\'t work, but maybe it will. There\'s not much to lose besides time and those who\'ll stay are those who are willing to invest it. Life\'s a gamble :D.
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Ah, this should be interesting, dont really see much point in it though.
Knowledge is power, hide it well :)
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how many of these kinda of things have tried to be intorduced over the last..2 years or so, heck thats just since i\'ve been here
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:rolleyes:
Annah does whatever he feels like, we all know that by now. What\'s the point in arguing?
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Nobody needs to be in a \"Secret Society\" to be helpful and useful people of the community. From what I have read in this thread, it seems these people just want to set themselves apart from the rest of us- becoming
\"a small community themselves.\"
Why split up the community and shove a bunch of people in a guild when they\'re just as useful out of it, and how can you claim that\'s not just done for the \'elevated status\' of having this guild\'s name tagged to the end of theirs? If it\'s not for the name, why join? Does it mean you can\'t all be friends just because you\'re not grouped with a fancy title?
Annah\'s mind works in mysterious ways. Rather like a broken clock, it keeps ticking the same second over and over, as if time never moved on... the hand stuck in the past, forever.
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Originally posted by Icefalcon
Bah, you did an awesome job keeping yourselves hidden. I never knew about it.
Well it turns out, that some members didn\'t know it still exists as well :D
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Hey Annah told me to expect a surprise fom him on AIM... Guess this was it :)
*is surprised*
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and how can you claim that\'s not just done for the \'elevated status\' of having this guild\'s name tagged to the end of theirs? If it\'s not for the name, why join? Does it mean you can\'t all be friends just because you\'re not grouped with a fancy title?
If you are looking for fame, you don\'t make the society secret Moogie. Like Sangwa said, it was a good idea that would work or simply not work. It was worth a shot and there was nothing to lose...
People are being hostile for no reason and the fact that the new players are the ones understanding and the oldbies the ones critizicing, shows a lot in my opinion. The newbies don\'t try to turn this into something they must hate, instead they have an open mind and see it as it is meant to be seen.
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These people will argue with whatever Annah does, even if he were to help every newbie he sees...somehow he\'s screwing everyone over.
Because people use words such as \"hidden\" and \"secret\" doesn\'t mean anything, especially now. It is no different then an invite-only guild that tries to benefit the community, I don\'t see anyone putting forth the same argument against those guilds.
In conclusion, I don\'t know where I was going with this. But I\'m sure it was good, anyways.
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Pah just include moogla in it and see how soon it goes up in smoke !! X( *Shakes fist at the Moogle*
Naw just kidding . I love Moogla too much to be mad at her about anything :P. *pinches moogle\'s cheeks* . I am sad that you have stopped talking to old Auran at all:( Did I do something wrong little lady? If so forgive me. You see I have grown old and grouchy and sometimes do things that i don\'t really mean to, bumbling fool that i am. :). Come on find a little nook in your big heart for poor old Auran too. I promise i won\'t take up much space and will be quiet as a mouse :).
Now about that society:
Try and get done what I wanted to do in the first place. Do that annah and i\'ll take my hat off to you. Its what PS needs. Errion knows all about it. You have most of the structure in place whereas i could barely get my plan off the runway.
To everyone else:
Come on give Annah a break! The americans gave bush a second chance, doesn\'t Annah deserve something similar. I can bet Annah never hurt an iraqi fly in his whole life. Don\'t elect him president of the world but let him try and show you he\'s better than you think. Follow the example set by that splendid and enlightened race called Americans (Yeah right!! :P:D)
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Originally posted by Moogie
Nobody needs to be in a \"Secret Society\" to be helpful and useful people of the community. From what I have read in this thread, it seems these people just want to set themselves apart from the rest of us- becoming
\"a small community themselves.\"
Why split up the community and shove a bunch of people in a guild when they\'re just as useful out of it, and how can you claim that\'s not just done for the \'elevated status\' of having this guild\'s name tagged to the end of theirs? If it\'s not for the name, why join? Does it mean you can\'t all be friends just because you\'re not grouped with a fancy title?
Moogie you are taking my words and mess around with them, I wanted to say that It is a small comunity of friends. Are you going to tore me apart in the air, \'cause i and some friends made a little ingame gamble community.
What is so wrong to form a guild out of friends, Many others did, I would also do if I had friends who would be willing. Remember back into the setting of some fantasy books, there where \"witch circles\", \"knight Orders\"
Why cant we have a group of friends.
A guild is a group of people who are changing the world together.
They are a group of people who are changing the world tofether.
Only one difference They are close friends to each other.
So a group of friends who are together changing the world isnt allowed to call them a guild, cause they are friends?
And remember They didnt post this here to stick a badge of honour on their breast.
They did post here because it would have been out anyways.
I dont know what Annah did, but it must be something devasting, for deserving such flaming.
Well I really think bush shouldnt have get another chance to make humans despaired and their lives destroyed, but thats Off Topic
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1st of all, I have to mention that this was never meant to be found out. Of course, it was inevitable that this will happen one day.
its mainly funny because me depthblade grakrim and saint nuc could have all been member had we not laughed at him :P
Actually, that\'s not quite true. It\'s mainly because only you and DepthBlade were selected to join. You keep mixing \"Exsequor\" - the idea of the guild, with this. It\'s just a simple coincidence of names, nothing more.
I contacted SaintNuclear and Grakrim a long time ago to offer them a place in a guild I wanted to create, though that didn\'t happen because I\'ve joined Dream of the Sarukai.
Also, I guess it was my mistake calling you friends and offering a place, because all I got was more bickering. And my mistake that I\'ve chosen the most stubborn and ambitious man and his fanathical side.
But I did those because I respect you, because I once believed in you.
These people will argue with whatever Annah does, even if he were to help every newbie he sees...somehow he\'s screwing everyone over.
And sadly, what Kiern said it\'s true. Any little thing I want to do, is firstly argued like I am Hitler or something. I want to do something? The bad side always is analysed, in the same time the good one fading away ...
Everything I\'ll do will just simply turn into something related to \"me\".
You know what? I frankly don\'t care about these things anymore. Like me the way I am. Don\'t like me? God cares ...
Seperot, I am tired how many times I wanted to \"make peace\" with you. Again, all I got was more bickering. Do you think I did this just to do it? I did this because I once cared for you mate. I could have easily ignore you in any way possible, and consider you \"just another crazy newbie\". But I didn\'t, and at least this should mean something for you.
Anyway, going back to the Society. Many answers have already been asked. But I\'ll just clear some things.
Merdarion, thank you for your words, and mostly I have to admit you are right.
But I want you all to understand this is not a guild, it\'s a Society, an organization.
you do also know that annah originally had this idea for a guild then changed it...and interesting some people reactions to *oh that?* / most likeing annah will ride it like Black order and never update anthing...like he already has been :P
Actually, read more carefully. They are two seperated things, that don\'t have any relations with each other. And as for leading it, no I am not leading it, I think you can realize there is no specific leader.
Auran, I wanted to contact you about this, but I am sorry, it seems Aelya has some dislikes with everything related to the Cabal \'eh. Though, I mentioned you. I guess I can do what you\'ve said, Errion will brief me up :)
And also stop with words like \"they\". We just wanted to do something fun, because after all, all of these, it\'s for fun right?
In the end I\'ll just say this still remains opens, and of course it will have more new members. But they will be kept secret, as well as what it has been done until now and what it will be done.
ah by the way ...
I dont know what Annah did, but it must be something devasting, for deserving such flaming.
To speak the truth Merdarion, god knows. Maybe they\'ll have to explain it a little. Maybe it\'s the fact I was roleplaying an evil character. What should\'ve I been doing? Help little old ladies to pass the street? Come on ...
It all resumes to a matter of tastes. I am not liked by some. So, this means everyone should feel this way. Personally, this is a very stupid way of thinking.
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And Moogie, I guess you do realize I am still upset of what you\'ve done concerning me in \"real life\". That was unacceptable, and not easily to be forgotten.
Yea I know, you were my little princess that sent me sms when I had my eyes operations, but still ...
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annah you total moron you know exactly why im attacking you stop acting like its some sort of shock i\'ve told most people here why i did it too so stop pretending you tryed to make peace.
as far as your guild (yes i am calling it that) you most likely do lead like you do with anhk. just tell people your just a person and lead that way. and you dident \"rp\" evil you sucked too much at it you where just annoying and now you\'ve had a acting facelift where you predend to be a happy person.
and ironically you dont mention how some people havent heard about this for 10 months :P
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I\'m afraid I havn\'t done anything concerning you in \"real life\", Hannah. :) If you\'re referring to Ankh, I left quite quickly when I realised you were one of its leaders- I would rather count my losses than potentially ruin a very talented group of individuals\' dreams. But, I left them with a warning, and nothing more. I do eventually want to find out if it was needed.
Quite frankly, it doesn\'t matter to me who created this group. Just because I disagree with things you happen to be a part of, Annah, doesn\'t mean I\'m hounding you or beating you down for the hell of it. :)
My reasons for disliking the idea are in my last post. The last paragraph I suppose was somewhat too personal to you, and I apologise for that. I\'ll remove it if you wish. But the rest of what I said is my truthful opinion.
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Seperot, stop with your personal insults. You could easily send me a PM :)
And like I\'ve told you on IRC, someone normal will try to know me first, then make his/her own opinion, than just following after what you say.
So you\'re kinda fighting for a lost cause.
And Moogie, I won\'t enter in details, because this is still Planeshift. But what you have to understand is that a \"game life\" is different from the \"real life\". Think at them as only one, and it\'s becoming tragic. You had no right to do what you\'ve done at Ankh, and you know better ;)
Annah\'s mind works in mysterious ways. Rather like a broken clock, it keeps ticking the same second over and over, as if time never moved on... the hand stuck in the past, forever.
\'eh ... it\'s actually quite strange. Because you (and a few more friends, *points to Seperot) still use this phrase. I mean, come on :rolleyes:
It\'s just you that is stuck at the same phrase over and over.
Ok, let\'s say I was wrong. Would you give a second change of knowing me? Of course not, that is what I was thinking too.
And if this is happening, why not just try to ignore me? Why do you have to tell your opinions to anyone? Let them form their own.
And I guess this became a little war between us, so I\'ll end my words here. No more replies to your words. Just stay on topic.
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Originally posted by Annah
The society was created mainly to serve the PS community, and even if most of us are in ?Evil Aligned? guilds, we hope that we shall do good and brave deeds.
Its an interesting idea overall, but this seems a bit strange to me. How do any of the character that are evil aligned stay IC while doing good and brave deeds for the community? From an rp point of view, it should be against the very moral fibre of some of these characters, unless for some reason these deeds also benefit them in some way, or is some big deception to gain trust or something ;)
Unless of course everything is OOC, and its just giving advice / going for GM positions or whatever, in which case good luck :)
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Originally posted by Moogie
Quite frankly, it doesn\'t matter to me who created this group. Just because I disagree with things you happen to be a part of, Annah, doesn\'t mean I\'m hounding you or beating you down for the hell of it. :)
My reasons for disliking the idea are in my last post.
Really? Interesting.
Do you care then, to read my last post and tell me how I am wrong about the part about the guilds?
Because, you know, Annah didn\'t come up with any of them...and I don\'t see posts like that in their threads (or others like them).
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To be honest I couldn\'t name any invite-only guilds who\'s sole purpose is helping the community... the only reason I ever look at the Guilds forum is when someone links me to a thread here. :P In this case, Sep linked me, so I decided to read what he was going on about.
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lets be honest... there are no guilds who\'s sole purpose is helping the community.... invite or not, some do it more than others
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Once again, that was not the point of my post.
Invite-only is the same thing, but in fact this is better then that for two reasons.
1. It tries to help the community (this is the point you confused as the main one of my post, going by what you say, this actually makes it better then those guilds in theory).
2. It is not a guild, if anyone really wanted to be they could be included.
Do I need to make it even more simple then that?
Oh yes, to reask the question, point out to me what is so different between the two concepts that makes this somehow worse.
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Nobody needs to join a guild to be a mercenary, and still people join the Mercenary Guild -_-. So we do the same thing about helping the community. Gather a few people and do it together rather than separatly. That\'s why there are guilds and organizations.
It\'s not like we\'re casting ourselves out of the community or we wouldn\'t go through the trouble of helping it... You used Merdarion\'s words, not Exsequor\'s.
And Kiern is correct. You have nothing against The Society, you have something against Annah. I ask you to leave the rest of The Society out of it, unless Annah asks us to help him, which I doubt greatly. We haven\'t done anything that justifies you calling us a bunch of egocentric pricks, and if Annah did that\'s between both of you.
Now everyone stop arguing while we\'re all still cool :P. Focus!
So... anyway, Ghostslayer, if an evil character agrees that having an unstable community might not be benefitial than that person should do its best to stop it from degradating.
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Annah, I was the one who kept pushing Sep to make a truce with you. But after what you did few days ago I can\'t honestly tell him that he should lay off anymore. You know well enough that what you did was wrong and you know Sep has right to be mad.
Originally posted by Annah
To speak the truth Merdarion, god knows. Maybe they\'ll have to explain it a little. Maybe it\'s the fact I was roleplaying an evil character. What should\'ve I been doing? Help little old ladies to pass the street? Come on ...
Well when it comes to me:
Many times you threated me that you\'ll hack me.
You tried to turn Grono and Aendar against me and god knows how many other people that didn\'t tell me about it.
You kept offending me in PMs from the obvious reason.
You kept telling me that you\'ll get me kicked from DE.
And all this while being allies. Roleplaying? I don\'t think so.
But it\'s all past, I don\'t really care anymore. Like they say Forgive and Forget. But please, don\'t act as if you were innocent...
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Ok, this and then I\'ll stop with the words here. But I have to clear this :P
Come on Drak, don\'t play the role of the innocent person. You\'re as guilty as I am in this. :rolleyes:
Tried to turn someone against you? Here my friend, you\'re wrong. :]
Also, I think you have to learn the difference between saying something and doing something.
Anyway, yes, I admited I was wrong. What do you want to do now?
* points to ...
But it\'s all past, I don\'t really care anymore. Like they say Forgive and Forget.
* Wonders why others can\'t ...
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Originally posted by Annah
Come on Drak, don\'t play the role of the innocent person. You\'re as guilty as I am in this. :rolleyes:
care to explain?
Originally posted by Annah
Tried to turn someone against you? Here my friend, you\'re wrong. :]
Well I believe Grono and Aendar... so if I\'m wrong - it\'ll remain like that.
Originally posted by Annah
Also, I think you have to learn the difference between saying something and doing something.
de facto - you did threat me ;)
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Im guessing that keeping this \"secret community\" secret would have been in your best intrest.
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You know, when a thread becomes a source of cheap, cabal-style entertainment, it\'s time for everyone to shut up and go home.
~Monketh
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I am not here to bicker. However, if you are a secret society , why do you give the names of your members away. And your members can be in guilds,,, so are they like spies or something.
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Originally posted by Sangwa
So... anyway, Ghostslayer, if an evil character agrees that having an unstable community might not be benefitial than that person should do its best to stop it from degradating.
sorry sangwa but i have to ask
what exactly has your team acheaved so far? surely you can tell people what you have already done so please do go on to tell the exploits of this this fixing the community.
and annah why wont you talk to me on irc anymore? scared of me? :P
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:D I love it. Though it is getting old, I need something I have to think about. Instead seperot keeps posting.
Seriously man, how does coming up with an idea equate to having already moved forward? And more importantly, why do you care?
Originally posted by Valbrandr
I am not here to bicker. However, if you are a secret society , why do you give the names of your members away. And your members can be in guilds,,, so are they like spies or something.
Do you read? Annah\'s opening posts answers your question...
And yes. Kada, Atticus, and myself are spying on OI. Keep it secret though, or we might kick ourselves out.
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Seriously, there is no end to this discussion. I\'ve been in for 2 weeks but from what I\'ve understood the organisation hasn\'t done anything yet.
What\'s sad is that if we would have done something and then posted our deeds here, people would have said that we are only looking for fame...
When you think about it there is absolutely no reason for anybody to criticize this organisation.
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You\'re free to ask Seperot ^^.
I never said we really did anything, I said we try doing it :P. Like I mentioned before I\'m not an old member of this organization and information of past achievements has yet to reach me.
Valbandr, I believe the names of the current members and the guild itself would be divulged sooner or later by someone else. It\'s better that we\'re the ones to show it to the public.
The Society allows its members to belong to a Guild without any problems. It\'s like being a member of a political, or sport organization, you can work as a mailman and still participate in it.
Annah just started this thread, he is not our leader like he already mentioned. Now that I think of it, some one else should have done it, since the conversation seemed to focus on Annah rather than on The Society. But you never know when angry people will jump at you, or what to expect from them for that matter ^^.
Finally, I request that if anyone has anything to say about Annah PM it to him. At least have some respect for the other members of this organization by not making this thread any more messy ^^.
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Well its really a stupid question, and you dont need to answer it.
In what way do you want/try to help the comunity?
Well Sangwa some people just love to throw dirt at Annah and anything he does. It\'s a sport for them, the more public the better.
As said before even if Annah would help any newb to Planeshift out, people would complain about.
Some of you act like vultures fighting for a piece of meat.
To speak the truth Merdarion, god knows. Maybe they\'ll have to explain it a little. Maybe it\'s the fact I was roleplaying an evil character. What should\'ve I been doing? Help little old ladies to pass the street? Come on ...
It all resumes to a matter of tastes. I am not liked by some. So, this means everyone should feel this way. Personally, this is a very stupid way of thinking.
Well I dont like some people on this forum,
Am I flaming each idea of them?
And Moogie, I guess you do realize I am still upset of what you\'ve done concerning me in \"real life\". That was unacceptable, and not easily to be forgotten.
Yea I know, you were my little princess that sent me sms when I had my eyes operations, but still ...
Come on dont talk about matters in real life in this Forum,
This is PS forum and not RL. Even if she had killed your mother it isnt supposed to land here.
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I said no more discussion about Annah -_-. PM each other or gather up in IRC to discuss it.
Anyway, we want to help the community in many ways. For example doing \"good and brave deeds\" like Annah said ^^. Good as in \"good turkey\" of course :P. Or by using wisely any information we gather. Who knows, in the future, we might even be able to avoid conflicts like the one this thread has started ^^.
If you wanted to know how we\'re gonna do it exactly then I can\'t answer you, even if The Society isn\'t that secret anymore it\'s plans should stay so.
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Originally posted by Sangwa
Like I mentioned before I\'m not an old member of this organization and information of past achievements has yet to reach me.
never did have any use... didnt even learn anything from it
:P
anyway, since people seem to want it be treated like a guild:
There\'s no history, nor any speciffic goals. It seems to lack any organization and is just few people piled together. There\'s no website describing the organization in any way. Also it must lack some serious activity if members last heard about it 10 months ago.
There\'s no real use for it whatsoever. Want to help PS community? Go ingame and roleplay, encouraging others to do it. You\'ll do much better by doing that than by wasting time on some \"hidden\" organizations. Said that, the only purpose of this must be to gather friends. As if you wanted to make friends by signing contract instead of shaking hands.
Yes, I rant - because I\'m sick of the comments that people flame this organization because of Annah. It\'s really easy to make such comments especially when organization itself sucks, isn\'t it?
There\'s not really any difference from the newb guilds that say they want to gather friends and then disappear after a week. Maybe just that this organization has highly respected members.
Want to have group of friends? Fine! But don\'t expect that it\'ll be taken lightly when posting on guilds forum if it lacks actual organization required for guilds.
What did you expect from posting something like that here? Grats and cheers? Well think again. I would expect much more from people of such reputations as yours. Instead you didn\'t even bother to build some rp background behind this friendship...
I end the rant here.
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Lets all listen to Auran and STFU!
And Monk: I resent that Cabal comment. The cabal had its own flavor and it wasn\'t exactly bickering that we did. ;)
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lol, wtf, who cares?? You\'re just finding something to argue about, so everyone STFU for once....
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Originally posted by Draklar
Originally posted by Sangwa
Like I mentioned before I\'m not an old member of this organization and information of past achievements has yet to reach me.
never did have any use... didnt even learn anything from it
:P
anyway, since people seem to want it be treated like a guild:
There\'s no history, nor any speciffic goals. It seems to lack any organization and is just few people piled together. There\'s no website describing the organization in any way. Also it must lack some serious activity if members last heard about it 10 months ago.
There\'s no real use for it whatsoever. Want to help PS community? Go ingame and roleplay, encouraging others to do it. You\'ll do much better by doing that than by wasting time on some \"hidden\" organizations. Said that, the only purpose of this must be to gather friends. As if you wanted to make friends by signing contract instead of shaking hands.
Yes, I rant - because I\'m sick of the comments that people flame this organization because of Annah. It\'s really easy to make such comments especially when organization itself sucks, isn\'t it?
There\'s not really any difference from the newb guilds that say they want to gather friends and then disappear after a week. Maybe just that this organization has highly respected members.
Want to have group of friends? Fine! But don\'t expect that it\'ll be taken lightly when posting on guilds forum if it lacks actual organization required for guilds.
What did you expect from posting something like that here? Grats and cheers? Well think again. I would expect much more from people of such reputations as yours. Instead you didn\'t even bother to build some rp background behind this friendship...
I end the rant here.
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Draklar you forget one thing:
They posted it just because it would have come out sooner or later
Cant there be a newly formed guild?
I mean dont you think that there could be an organization starting?
Not each guild exists for centuries.
And even DE or THS had their History begin somewhere, why not having a guilds just begun on in present.
And who says they arent roleplaying?
[Edit]corrected Typos (wrote organuzatuib)
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I didn\'t forget about it. It\'s just that it doesn\'t change anything, for example the fact that it sucks.
I\'ve seen more organized guilds getting lots of criticism and still they didn\'t make excuses that it\'s all because people don\'t like one of their members. Instead they tried to improve. And frankly, if this organization has over 10 months then they had enough time to actually make it a bit more organized.
And the point is no one said they are roleplaying. In their opening post it\'s just that they are loyal to each others and that\'s all. I make my opinion by what they showed.
And frankly, they didn\'t show much.
I truly respect some members of it (like Kada or Sangwa), but if they are thinking seriously about this, they should give more work into it.
And if it isn\'t supposed to be organization (something that is actually organized) then what is this thread doing in guilds forum?
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Well they didnt say that it is cause of Annah that was ME.
But anyways i have to admit that it could be organized in some way.
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Hiya auran, long time no see, still using that monkey in combination with your brain :P.
but no seriously, i\'m not going to form an oppinion on this, i saw this coming from the beginning.
al that is left now is a battle between the \"ancient\" old bees and the old bees that are bout a year and a half old.
the idea of this is good, i think it\'s just the wrong person that introduced it.
it aelya would have introduced this to the world, i can bet you that it would have been way different.
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well actually:
Originally posted by Kiern
These people will argue with whatever Annah does
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anyway, since people seem to want it be treated like a guild
I don\'t care how the people want to treat it. I\'ve just told you that it is not a guild.
Please, read my replies.
Also, I hope I\'ve answered your questions in that PM.
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Do you realise this is guilds forum?
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And you do realize that you can post here even if it\'s not a guild. BISM should post in the Hydlaa Plaza?!
It has to do with this forum, even if it would be just a \"gathering of people sharing some beliefs\".
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For once I agree with the Cabal peple :P
All of you need to cool it.
Even though its been said before, I will do my best to sum up my knowledge of this group and what its about. Maybe it will sound different coming from me :rolleyes:
What it isnt, despite what some may think but can\'t prove:
-It is not a guild
-It is not a leet group of people that hold themselves higher than everyone else or have some secret plot
-It is NOT an \"Annah fan club\" :rolleyes:
-It is not a group of spies telling each other about every guild
-It is not a massive alliance of guild leaders and/or officers
What it is:
-A group of people that consier each other friends
-A group of people that strive to help the Planeshift Community in any way they can
-A group of people that like to RP together
-A small community (by no means implying we arnt members of the planeshift community as well. Think of it as a community within a community)
Now if you all kindly do me a favor and quit bashing Annah over the head for simply making a thread about the group I would much appreciate it. :)
I don\'t know why Annah decided to make it public but I personally don\'t see a problem with it. Or maybe he knew he would get flamed to a crisp if he did. Maybe he was hoping people would respect it. Oh well, to much to expect I guess. If you want to bash Annah for something or generaly toss insults at him then thats what PM\'ing is for.
Cheers to all
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Originally posted by Princess Aelya
If you want to bash Annah for something or generaly toss insults at him then thats what PM\'ing is for.
That usually works when someone doesn\'t have his inbox filled already...
And quit it with the \"if you want to flame Annah\". No one\'s doing it. Use the search option in your browser and see who uses his name the most.
I stand by my words. If you post in guilds forum, while lacking any organization. At least take the criticism instead of looking for blame in those who criticize it.
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Hey I posted. Now everyone has to come take a look this.
Scroll down a little bit.....
Hey I was just noticing this thread and was wondering if our super secret organization could get together tomorrow being Saturday, say around 6-8 GMT ish in the planeshift channel on quakenet or any suggestions is welcomed. Hey we could even go in CB and play around for a bit. I don\'t know all of you and I wouldn\'t mind meeting some cuz I\'m a really, really nice guy. I\'m sure seperot, draklar, or the beast will be there to watch a good \'ol failure. Even if one or two of us show, we can just let the aholes get us down. See ya there. :))
And Draklar, I will not take criticism from you since you lack the credibility to insult an organization or guild even trying to be put together. You have never put the time in to creating an organization or guild and plus you\'re the worst type of member next to a hacker, a traitor. RP or not you will be know for this for a while.
Note: make the AA, the Aholes for Annah.
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Originally posted by _Atticus
You have never put the time in to creating an organization or guild and plus you\'re the worst type of member next to a hacker, a traitor. RP or not you will be know for this for a while.
dum de dum:
Defenders, Templars of Steel, Forest Guardians. A lot of work put in Legendary Warriors and Dark Empire.
nice job on doing some research ;)
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Eh, oh well, I still haven\'t seen it lol. Second part is a doozy though...
I try.
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I was told there would be free food and drinks if I joined :rolleyes:
Seriously though, I doubt that any of you have a problem with the organization itself, you have a problem with Annah. If I remember correctly, Seperot and a few others formed an \"organization\" called The Great Gods quite some time ago, is there any difference between our organization and yours, except for the fact that we do not charge money in order to help the community?
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the difference is dorb created it and i dident pay any attention to it.
anyways me and annah have come to an aggreement that suits me. i withdraw any further argument about annah here on in.
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See, Draklar brings the good arguments.
Originally posted by Draklar
Yes, I rant - because I\'m sick of the comments that people flame this organization because of Annah. It\'s really easy to make such comments especially when organization itself sucks, isn\'t it?
Just to make one point clear - I was just talking to seperot and mogura in my statement about Annah. I didn\'t think about making sure I said that, I only thought to make sure that I did not say everyone and instead put \"these people\" which is not very clear. My bad. :baby:
As for the rest of your statements, I will unfortunately have to agree the set up (not the initial idea, understand) is pretty bad. I think Annah talked to me about it like a year ago and I never heard anything after that. Though I also said I would not be able to be really involved with it due to the number of projects I\'ve started...so, I always figured I wouldn\'t know that much about it.
Though, I think failed set ups (or abandoned ones) shouldn\'t be listed as achievements. ;)
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* EDITED *
Sorry, I\'ve posted from mistake.
Anyway, if I already did I\'ll say some things.
First of all, yep, me and sep got a deal, so I think everything should be fine now :]
As for the Society, I know it\'s not the best organized and stuff. But the truth is that we kinda didn\'t stay too much to do it as well. Everyone busy with real life and stuff.
But, no one says we can\'t do it now or in the near/distant future ;)
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Why does this debate go on. This society wants to be an organization of friends who hang out, role-play, and share some information. Thats fine, let us leave them alone and bury the hachet of ancient misfortune.
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Originally posted by Kiern
Just to make one point clear - I was just talking to seperot and mogura in my statement about Annah. I didn\'t think about making sure I said that, I only thought to make sure that I did not say everyone and instead put \"these people\" which is not very clear. My bad. :baby:
Well I can\'t speak for Mogs and Sep (altho\' you\'re obviously right about Sep :P) so ok, you have a point there then and I must agree :P
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Well, I have to be totally honest about this in that I didn\'t even realise (or had totally forgotten!) this even existed. I do vaguely remember now Annah proposing something ages ago in MB and I must\'ve said yes I guess, seems like a long time ago ;) *curses her feeble memory* (must be an age thing)
Anyway to cut a long story short, yes it looks like I am a member, but have had no dealings, or have actually heard anything from this organisation since I joined (hardly surprising during the final dark days of MB). But I\'m sure with the renewed activity of CB this will change and if it\'s a group of people out to make good things happen in the world of PS, preserve some of the great things we had, and to stop CB becoming a powerlevellers paradise, then I\'m all for it and would happily contribute!
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Originally posted by Kada-El and to stop CB becoming a powerlevellers paradise
Too late :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Draklar
Originally posted by Princess Aelya
If you want to bash Annah for something or generaly toss insults at him then thats what PM\'ing is for.
That usually works when someone doesn\'t have his inbox filled already...
And quit it with the \"if you want to flame Annah\". No one\'s doing it. Use the search option in your browser and see who uses his name the most.
I\'m sorry if you took that personally. It was directed at the general public not you in particular. I was just trying to get people to understand what the group was all about.
But I think I will stay out of this thread for awile. I am done trying to clarify and wont make an argument out of it.
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Originally posted by Kada-El: and to stop CB becoming a powerlevellers paradise
Xordan: Too late
Any suggestions? Obviously there\'s some bugs and balance issues, but if there\'s anything to encourage RP over powerlevelling, I know *I\'m* at least all ears. Communities of tightly knit RPers are often very effective, especially if they can agree on what constitutes being \"In Character\" as opposed to \"Out of Character\".
Perhaps out-of-game organizations such as this one might best remain informal networks of people who meet and discuss RP issues in the game and all take a solemn oath of Roleplayingness and Freemasonry.
Err.. forget that last part.
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Perhaps out-of-game organizations such as this one
I don\'t think we\'re fully OOC... I mean, I\'m not swearing any oath to the people behind the characters :P. Trying to motivate RP is one of the things we do, not everything.
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Originally posted by Annah
EXSEQUOR
THE HIDDEN SOCIETY
It has no connections with other guilds, so its members can be in any of them.
What?!
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Even if you are in this... thing, you can join other organizations... scratch \"other\" :P
- Swords
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Originally posted by _Atticus
And Draklar, I will not take criticism from you since you lack the credibility to insult an organization or guild even trying to be put together. You have never put the time in to creating an organization or guild and plus you\'re the worst type of member next to a hacker, a traitor. RP or not you will be know for this for a while.
Dont insult the seer, or you will regret it, the other guardians of the forest may be honourful or mild against the week but I\'m not.
Saying that one who actually ties all the RPers together is the worst type of player is ridiculous.
Saying that one who founded many-a long living and prospering guild is the worst type of player is ridiculous.
So after clarifing that, I will again give my (changed) two cents about it:
- It seems that most of you are against them because they are a group of friends that RPs one
- secondly you seem to doom anything Annah makes
- thirdly there are much worse things which are encouraged, while this Hidden Society (which seems actually a nice idea for me) is hated
- You dont even give \'em a chance
(I hope I dont have to say that this is meant on all those who flamed without reason, not those who brought their reasons forth and were up to discussions)
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Oof It seems that I got a bit late
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Your two cents is worth much more. Your evaluation is correct. Your post sums up all the bickering.