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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Black_rose on January 06, 2005, 09:24:41 pm

Title: a few more questions,
Post by: Black_rose on January 06, 2005, 09:24:41 pm
first is,
           do intelligent extra terresrials exist and if they do, would they be more or less advanced??
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on January 06, 2005, 10:18:16 pm
They exist for sure. They might be 10000000000000000000000000 lightyears away, but they exist.
I think they wont be as advanced as us but you cant really judge it cuz we will both have things the other doesnt.
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Post by: davo on January 07, 2005, 07:36:13 am
chances are extra terestrial life is just goen to be little shrimp things and little bugs lol.  

they could be smarter depending on evolution ect...like humans.

I suggest removing little alien charecters out of your head first lol.
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Post by: Syzerian on January 07, 2005, 09:50:55 am
They do indeed exist and some are less advanced while others are 1,000\'s of years more advanced than humans. These so called aliens do not look that much different from humans considering what humans really are.
But here is another question. If aliens arrived on Earth would they be attacked? would people cower in fear? or would we try to comminicate peacefully?
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Post by: Foresteer on January 07, 2005, 10:30:27 am
well what sect would you like to know about? i have anywhere from basic to advanced info on about 5 known races... i can find info on all know races (its about 9-15 know races isn\'t it?)

But if you listen to \"science\" then \"NO no aliens! Don\'t think bad thoughts and listen to the white house about roswell never happening! It has your best interest at heart :)\"

EDIT: some more some less... depending if they are galactic senate members or not.. any of the \"major\" races who decide anything though make us look like crap slinging chimps XD
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Post by: Bardialus on January 07, 2005, 02:59:51 pm
It depends, whether you are of the school of thought whichholds to the idea of 1 exponentially increasing universe, or a multiverse which is constructed of layers and planes and different dimensions.  If you believe in the sole universe theory then life has major problems being created.  This is supposed to be linked to the whole different climatic effects upon atoms etc.  Currently the multivers way of thininkg is having more and more proof to its claims.  Although I like to think the idea of dimensional shift is possible/will be possible, many dispute it.

Life itself is a tough question to ask.  Do you mean sentient life?  
If life does exist out there, from our point in the cosmos I think there would be life forms out there that are both...It depends on how far away from the core of the universe in which they are found.  Time plays an important part in the advancement of a species!
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Post by: Hujuman on January 07, 2005, 03:36:28 pm
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Time plays an important part in the advancement of a species!


Time doesn\'t exist remember... :)
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Post by: Bardialus on January 07, 2005, 03:44:04 pm
I thought it did?!
Arent time and space constant? oops sorry wrong door :)

If time doesnt exist, why do we measure it?
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Post by: Hujuman on January 07, 2005, 03:59:39 pm
We don\'t measure time...  We measure the bits in between.
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Post by: Bardialus on January 07, 2005, 04:04:23 pm
ahh.
so if time doesnt exist why create a name for something that doesnt exist.  except to create an explanation for the bits in between?
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Post by: Hujuman on January 07, 2005, 04:20:53 pm
Why?  Because we do give names to things that we think don\'t exist or can\'t explain

It\'s the nature of Human Beings, we need to feel comfortable.  And by naming something it makes us feel as if we know what it is a little more.

We don\'t know God exists yet he has a name, many names in fact....

Can of worms anyone.....?
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Post by: Arzosah on January 07, 2005, 04:26:16 pm
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Originally posted by Foresteer
But if you listen to \"science\" then \"NO no aliens! Don\'t think bad thoughts and listen to the white house about roswell never happening! It has your best interest at heart :)\"

EDIT: some more some less... depending if they are galactic senate members or not.. any of the \"major\" races who decide anything though make us look like crap slinging chimps XD

Wah? What nonsense is that? Science doesn\'t say aliens don\'t exist :rolleyes:
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Post by: Bardialus on January 07, 2005, 04:26:16 pm
NNNNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:P
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on January 07, 2005, 05:15:02 pm
The term \'alien\' refers to any unknown living thing, really.
There are life on other planets, in fact. I don\'t now about little green men but astronaughts have found a form of algae(or something like it) growing on cave walls on mars. I forget the scientific name of the stuff but they nicknamed it gorilla poop because that\'s what it looked like when it was grown thick enough.
The same stuff is on earth. But. Yeah. THis was on Mars. SO there\'s your ET.
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Post by: Hujuman on January 07, 2005, 06:30:00 pm
Thinking about this, maybe we haven\'t had contact with anything extra-terrestrial for a particular reason.

Maybe Earth has been put on some kind of quarantine list by some kind of Galactic council?

Now I\'m a skeptic by nature, but think about it.  Look at the state our planet is in right now....  Imagine the damage that we\'d cause to other planets!

Imagine for example Dubbya with his 10 Gallon hat....

\'Mmm beautiful discovery NASA thanks.....Lovely planet....Where\'d you say the oil was...?\'

It could well be that \'aliens\' are hiding from us because they\'re damn scared!

So in summation they must be smarter than us, they keep away!
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Post by: Black_rose on January 07, 2005, 10:43:25 pm
right now i think that they are learning some of our languages, but i think that a few do exist, like flying saucers??? they are airodynamic and grays??? stories of them everywhere along with the soposed half breeds,


i do not belive rosswell had to do with aliens, area 51 was probably and is probably a nuclear base with armed ships, also it houses the aurora planes (some kick- ass planes)
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Post by: Bardialus on January 08, 2005, 02:18:40 am
About Area 51, doesnt anyone else find it a little bizarre that one of the most \'secret\' sites in the world is one of the most talked about?

If you wanted to delve deeper I\'m pretty sure tha you\'d find that that is a smokescreen for those who want to draw attention to things, whilst distrcting the media attention from the real items of research.  

To be honest so what?! As long as it produces better sciences which as a whole will help with the our future survival, then that should surely be a benefit?

But if the research and construction of said technological breakthroughs affects our existence in any way then they should be stopped.

The hype thats surrounded Roswell in the past is the perfect cover for anything.  The ideas that people form when not given all the real information are astounding...

All theorists on the speculation of \'revealed information\' are helping to keep the smoke screen and hype about the truth going...Its a perfect self-sustaining machine :D


I like the idea of them learning our language...It\'d be funny to meet one and have a beer with em:)
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Post by: Foresteer on January 08, 2005, 02:28:58 am
Actualy we are not on a \"quarantine list\" we just aren\'t very \"sentient\" ..we are... but not enough to warrent any relations (groups will contact induviduals.. that are able to handle the knowledge) to most races anyway the grey/U.S. allience is slowly making itself known.. and its to the detriment of humans.. but i digress.. While i only remeber the \"slang\" names of most races and i have forgotten their home planets i can tell you about them in corelation to earth

\"Greys\" Their are two factions.. kind of like on earth.. the government and the people/scientists.. the government is vagrently using us and has no qualms about it... the people are actualy worried about our wellbeing and from what i hear raising a fuss about our treatment (abductions, cattle mutations) we are kind of the \"Iraq\" of the galaxy at the moment... government refuses to leave; people and the other sentient nations are worried about their actions but not enough to step in.. Also technicaly WE have to appeal on our behalf nad say we do not like what is happening to us.. which is why there is a considerable \"dumbing down\" of the world.. if we are to stupid to develop the abilty to contact the counsil then we can\'t ask for the Grey government to stop

\"Nordic\" high end humans really (called nordes as they have blonde hair blue eyes like the nordic humans of earth).. like an UBER-evolved us.. some of them exists mearly in the \"halls of time\".. History of war with \"Greys\" And \"Reptelians\".. they are the france of the galaxy.. peaceful.. but if threatend (or if their descendant races are) enough will kick some arse and take some names.. Actualy  in the middle ages they totaly owned a attempt by reptelians to reclaim us as their slave race

\"Reptelians\" The N. Korea of the galaxy really.. warlike and primitive in mind.... Earth was once one of their slave worlds. reason we have been so slow to psionic ability as even though we are descendent of one of the most advanced humanoid races in the multiverse is that the \"reptialian\" conquerors made sure a good about of their DNA made it into our race.. which is what eventualy propmted the \"Nordic\" people to step in and like i said take names and knock them down a few notches (they took seeing one of thier child races becoming half of one the most primitives races quite an insult i guess :P) also the reason man is at heart leaning towards evil.. its that base reptilian part of our brains that got added way back when.. but it also is what makes us so darned crafty >:/

all i can think of ATM they are the big three of earth-galactic realtions though.. there are several others but they slip my mind

develop mentaly and maybe you can rise above the average stupid human enough to be worthy of contact (even a job the galactic trade federation is very keen on us being half ingenius nord and half wiley reptile.. once a human is smart enough they often get asked if they would like to become pilots)

~au revoir
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Post by: Black_rose on January 08, 2005, 02:49:16 am
good job,

everyone get their las comments in cause the new question is......


did the ancient, mythical races exist???


my thoughts are that they in fact did, but they were in another earth plain, we came from that land , with magic we opened up a portal and met neanderthals, and then cross bread to make the modern homo sapian ;)
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Post by: Bardialus on January 08, 2005, 02:52:27 am
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Originally posted by Foresteer
we are kind of the \"Iraq\" of the galaxy at the moment...


I think that might be what Hujuman was trying to convey...I can see the link a little clearer now...What if those \'other beings\' are sat in the shadows just watching us and laughing at our stupidity?!
\"Hey guys, come and look at what specimen 2376yt6 is doing...He\'s trying to make fusion!!!\"
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Post by: Foresteer on January 08, 2005, 06:14:24 am
lol we are on fognl at this very second (that was a funny south park actualy) \"hahaha look at specimen f0r3st33r! He is telling people about us.. aww idd\'t dat coot!

Actualy i meant that as in we are under attack and being used but that is also a funny situation XD

and WHAT mythical races? i am very helpful but i often need an exaple (i i know of more then just one way to do things a simple question like \"how does a lightbulb work\" will cause me to ask.. halogen, arc, LED or regular?) as i know of about 20 mythical races of the past.. some real some not :P once you specify i can be further help.. do you mean races like Anubites? or races like Atlantiens?
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Post by: Hujuman on January 08, 2005, 07:18:14 pm
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did the ancient, mythical races exist???




Depends on the way you look at the term \'Mythical\'  being a adjective it has more than one meaning..  It could mean \'Occuring in or characteristics of myths or folk tales\', or \'Imaginary and not real\'.

But I\'ve always thought along the lines that a story must have had some origin, and it\'s proving whether or not the origin of that story is based on truth.  And, whether that truth has been continued throughout that particular stories life.

I mean we all know what Chinese Whispers can do!

Conversely the story could have been based on an untruth, and then where would we be?
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Post by: Black_rose on January 12, 2005, 11:05:22 pm
ok, that one sucked. how about.........

what would happen if raptors lived through the meteors and the ice age
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Post by: Hatchnet on January 12, 2005, 11:08:24 pm
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ok, that one sucked. how about.........

what would happen if raptors lived through the meteors and the ice age


Quite simply we might not be here.
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Post by: davo on January 13, 2005, 12:34:55 am
Black_rose that was damn funny hehehehe. anyways

your little aliens are going to be....bacteria, shrimp, plankton, little fish things and animals that have adapted to the climate.  plus ther needs to be suitable conditions like temperature, water and atmosphere.  now they may or may not have evolved be smart enough.

they anrt going to travel for thousands of years and leave there loved ones just to crash into roswell lol.  stupid brainwashed americans.  

roswell is no more than crashed weather ballons which gets streached out of story.  notice alot of the stereo typed aliens all originate from america?
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Post by: Foresteer on January 13, 2005, 05:02:33 am
Ya\'ll are on the COMPLETELY false assumtion alien life would be carbon based ;) silicon based life can live almost anywhere... so when you say many planets cannot support life that is totaly false... some planets cannot support CARBON based life.. thats all

EDIT: also why would scientists leave their loved ones to go to the north pole and sometimes freeze to death O.o? for science.. also said alien group \"greys\" could make the trip here in about 3-4 days to a few weeks depending on the ship so :P
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Post by: Monketh on January 13, 2005, 05:07:10 am
Davo, alien theory isn\'t limited to Americans.  Sheesh.
Heck, even artists from India have alien theories.
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Post by: Under the moon on January 13, 2005, 06:11:01 am
Aliens are nothing more than humans from the future.  Mice control the world.  Raptors never existed, they were all planted by Anti-creationists.  The cat in the box is dead...and alive.  A tree falling in the woods with no one around makes a hole.  Velcro was brought here by aliens (who are the super evolved Anti-evolutionist human pets of the Mouse and Iradiated Cockroach Alliance from the future.) .emit kcab nrut seloh kcalB  The greatest sign of intelligent life is that they haven\'t tried to contact us yet.  The only thing I beleave out of what I just wrote is about a tree.
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Post by: Foresteer on January 13, 2005, 06:56:18 am
Hahaha the true sign of intelegent life is that they haven\'t tried to contact us yet XD that was an awsome post
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on January 13, 2005, 07:07:24 am
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They do indeed exist and some are less advanced while others are 1,000\'s of years more advanced than humans. These so called aliens do not look that much different from humans considering what humans really are.
But here is another question. If aliens arrived on Earth would they be attacked? would people cower in fear? or would we try to comminicate peacefully?


Very well put. I was thinking about somthing like this a few days ago.
Well the world would break into chaos. Some just because they have the chance. Devoted religon people would pray. Others would hid in bomb shelters and some would plan to attack.

For all we know aliens dont even know what a \"war\" or \"fight\" is becausre there not dumbasses like we are.

I think futurama put it best. In the future WE will be the invading aliens.

EDIT *Sends Under the Moon to an Insanasylum* :P

EDIT EDIT Foresteer. CARBON HAS 4 VALENCE ELECTRONS MAKING IT PERFECT TO (sry caps lock) join to almost any atom. Thats why beings are carbon based. Im guessing alines would be a lot like us. Carbon based, breathe air etc.
OR they would be totally different.  Xenon based and dont breath at all or somthing like that...
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Post by: Foresteer on January 13, 2005, 08:36:22 am
lol you could have used backspace ya know XD but also silicon works very wel but really a lifeform can be ANYTHING based it doesn\'t even have to be based on anything it could be just there... as for carbon being the best.. well naturaly WE (being carbon based) would think that :P
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Post by: Black_rose on January 14, 2005, 10:13:23 pm
you know... i said i son\'t believe in rosswell...


Also... wel landed a probe on titan today :D

and we will eventually be ou their wether it is to leave our planet to save the life..... or to expand out power, population and chance to survive.... (we need a name for out system... i like the name \"system of the most kick-ass creatures in the universe\" but that is cause im a patriot. so anywase..... aliend we know for a fact exist


illegal aliens come from mexico all the time. what we want is extra terrestrials and alternate reality species (if the raptors lived onn they would be super intelligent) get it?

not to bump.......
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Post by: Krayn on February 22, 2005, 05:45:22 am
OOC: They recently found a skeleton of a dragon like creature and I tihnk a minataur.

IC: There must be more people or animals out there.  So, in conclusion aliens do exist. Don\'t listen to me.  I am always wrong. :)