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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: TheRedMonk on January 07, 2005, 04:28:05 pm
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OOC: An important event has occured in our guild and I believe it deserves its own thread. If anybody has a problem with that (there\'s always somebody) then feel free to PM me.
Website is still www.ashes-guild.com but we are working on a new one.
IC: The time has come for Ashes to take farewell to some of its members for the first time. In a group that has a member limit of 10 persons, members cannot be the least inactive and this is why some changes have been done.
Four of our members have taken our advice and left the guild for the sake of the group. These members were fairly active and checked our forums a couple of times a week, but this was not enough. We bid farewell to these great members and patiently await their return...
Now Ashes consists of:
Dyari the Grey Shark
Phinehas the Scorching Mind
Zeus the Silver Wolf
and Tybalt the Red Monk
We are currently recruiting but will not let just anybody join. Newbie or oldbie, if we believe that the person would be a good addition we give him/her a shot. We might be selective but have not forgotten that we were once newbies...
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Don\'t worry Tybalt, we all know everything will turn out perfect :)
I am sure you\'ll find worthy people for your guild. But as you said, take care who you\'ll take ;)
Again, Good Luck!
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yay ashes :) always a good guild ^^
alot of guild are doing activity purges it seems we just put people at the bottom and if they dont move we dont care there just meaty things that are splatter support :D
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Zeus joined? Did he leave OI or is he in both now? Anywho, I wish you nothing but the best :)
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I left OI and joined Ashes. Long story behind it, but yes, I\'m in Ashes now.
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Oh well, you know you\'ve got my support wherever you go :)
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Why a new site? This one is awesome. ?(
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Long live Ashes, you always will have the T.H.S on your side mates :)
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Don\'t worry Lynx. We\'re not totally changing it, just a bit of revamping. Since we\'re now a non-aligned guild, we\'re taking the alignments page out, changing the sidebar a bit, stuff like that.
For those of you who are interested in knowing, the members that were purged for \"inactivity\" were
Colane, the Rolling Monkey
Ionas, the Tainted Soul
Kurik, the Black Cat
and Sharp, the Psy Bolt
We sincerely hope that they\'ll be able to come back when they can be more active.
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Sorry to double post.
I just wanted to point out that according to Kada\'s guild list, Ashes is the newest Guild of the Realm.
I\'d like to take this chance to thank and congratulate Tybalt, Dyari on this great guild that they have built a reputation for. I sincerely hope that Zeus and I will live up to the legacy you have prepared.
*edit* For those guilds interested in having official relations with Ashes, be they positive or negative, please feel free to visit our forum (http://www.ashes-guild.com/relations/forum/), created especially for this.
*edit* If and when you visit the Ashes Relations forum, do not be surprised by it\'s lack of entries. It is newly created. The Ashes members themselves have a seperate forum.
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OOC This is a cool idea to have a group of elites but on the same token I also dont like it because of that. I am glad to see people as dedicated as you though.
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
OOC This is a cool idea to have a group of elites but on the same token I also dont like it because of that. I am glad to see people as dedicated as you though.
That\'s the point. If all the guilds were elite like us, it\'d be dumb, but we have chosen to be this way, and it works well.
Oh, by the way, for those of you who were worried, I\'m not our PR man, Tybalt is. ;)
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If it works for you and the members are loyal to one another then more power to you.
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Forgive my friend. I\'m sure he didn\'t mean to say \"elite\". It\'s just that we believe in friendship and therefore wouldn\'t want to let anybody in. Not everybody can function in a group like ours.
Also, the essence of Ashes is that we stay a small group of friends which is another reason why we can\'t afford letting just anybody in. We can\'t afford having members that do not have time for their guild or comrades.
So forget the word elite. I think that \"selective\" might be a better word ;)
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At times, I wish that I could do the same.
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Originally posted by TheRedMonk
Forgive my friend. I\'m sure he didn\'t mean to say \"elite\".
Actually, I meant exactly the word \"elite\". :D That\'s why you, Tybalt are our PR man, and I am the wizard. I get to be rude and prideful, you have to be politically correct.
In all honesty though, Tybalt did a much better job of explaining our \"selectiveness\" :D than I did.
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Is Ashes an official guild (and I dont mean meeting the requirements)? Is it more of a guild or an organization of potential great players?
Edit: Well, what I mean is, is this a guild that you are offically apart of and cannot join it if you are in another guild or is it something you can be apart of while with a guild.
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A guild is a type of an organization.
edit: well, if they call themselves a guild... I have never seen any different interpretation of a guild in these realms, plus if you read their background...
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Like Lynx said, you should check out our background story. The clan started out as a mission of revenge but has since then evolved. All members have different backgrounds which are likely to be the base for our future goals.
Members of Ashes are not allowed to be in other guilds but they are free to join organisations.
Check out the site ;)
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I checked your website, looks great :) I wish you guys good luck :D
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Now that im a former member i wish ashes much luck and succes. You probably miss us very much to have around ;) :D I understand that, so if ashes ever needs an extra sword don\'t hesitate to ask me. Cant promise ill be available but would not want to miss a nice fight.
Furthermore the purge is not enough to make ashes the elite guild it seeks to be. More needs to be done to make it so. Goals are needed to make ashes thrive and have something to work to.
Also a bit more seriousness is required. Proposals amde on the forum only got a few reactions and hardly ever the proposal was discussed completely or even put into action. I think ashes requires more generation of ideas, discussion thereof and if the idea is found good it has to be implemented.
Not that i want to criticise ashes, but its my advice about how ashes could and imho should be improved.
Also id like to know how the ashes story are going to be dealt with. The original plan was to write something about the joining of each of us. Is that still going to be done? Perhaps some story about our departure could be written as well. For my char this could be based on mistrust (for which i have a concept) between Ionas and ashes.
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Hey Ionas! Great to know you\'re still alive. Yeah, we\'ve discussed everything you\'ve mentioned. We\'re just at the stage where we\'re moving on from the purge. We\'re now slowly moving into the stage where we actually do stuff now that we\'re all active.
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Indeed it\'s nice to see you again Ionas :). You guys were part of Ashes and will of course always have your place in our hearts and history :D. The guild just keeps evolving and you guys have been of great help.
I know I\'ve been a little lazy when it comes to writing but I\'m still working on your part Ionas and will keep presenting different events in chronological order. So don\'t you worry ;)
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Ah good to hear that phinehas. Than no doubt ashes has a very promising future. Maybe ill see some of you around ingame some time.
Tybalt how about making a story about some rp reason for the departure of four members? Would add nice to the overall story id think.
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I\'m happy to say that an old friend is now also becoming a new recruit. Depthblade has decided to join our ranks and wishes to become the Holy Searing. We hope that he will like it in our fine guild and be part of the great adventures to come :D
I\'ll leave it up to Depthblade to motivate his choice and also tell you about his character
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Always picking up the high profile recruits. Your well on your way to being a very strong guild in Planeshift. (And when my group disbands, I will come talk to you to, lol)
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
Always picking up the high profile recruits. Your well on your way to being a very strong guild in Planeshift. (And when my group disbands, I will come talk to you to, lol)
IC: Well on our way? Well on our way!?!? We are the most active guild in all of Yliakum percentage-wise. Our members are the cream of the proverbial crop. We\'re not on our way, my friend, we are strong already.
OOC: Yeah, we\'re not doin\' too bad, eh? :D
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Originally posted by Phinehas
IC: Well on our way? Well on our way!?!? We are the most active guild in all of Yliakum percentage-wise. Our members are the cream of the proverbial crop. We\'re not on our way, my friend, we are strong already.
I don\'t think you\'re the only small guild with all members being active ;)
- Swords
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Originally posted by Draklar
Originally posted by Phinehas
IC: Well on our way? Well on our way!?!? We are the most active guild in all of Yliakum percentage-wise. Our members are the cream of the proverbial crop. We\'re not on our way, my friend, we are strong already.
I don\'t think you\'re the only small guild with all members being active ;)
- Swords
True but how many guilds, even the small ones, do you know of whose members are active every day, most of the day?
OOC: I\'m going to stop before everyone begins to hate us for my arrogance. ;) Tybalt\'s the PR man, after all. :P
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I don\'t think its a question of grabbing the valuable players, more or less a good environment..and besides I had friends there already. So who doesn\'t want to be with their friends?
Anyways glad to be upon the ranks of the Ashes, to be loyal to their final decisions.
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Originally posted by Phinehas
True but how many guilds, even the small ones, do you know of whose members are active every day, most of the day?
Well people in my are. Can\'t speak for the other guilds you know :D
- Swords
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I didn\'t know you had any members Draklar? Seriously I have never seen one.
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Well I am one ;)
Merdarion/Sirvion is another... and you can see Ravna on public dev chan everyday :P
- Swords
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Let\'s not compare our guilds eh? ;) Other than being small guilds with a small ammount of members I don\'t see what we have in common.
Depthblade has joined us and that is what is of interest right now. If you have any questions, ask them and we will answer.
Also like Depthblade said, most people want to be where their friends are and in Ashes we put a great focus on friendship. Like we\'ve said many times before, being a well-known player of our community is not a requirement to join our guild. It\'s just that well-known players tend to be active which we find to be of great importance in our small guild. :)
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It\'s not comparing, but proving your snobish :D member wrong. Yes, Phinehas, you\'re turning into a snob :D
- Swords
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Turning? Can\'t see it but alright guess its better then being one since birth Stares at Draklar :D
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Ahrg! I hate it when friends start quarelling.
Draklar stop arguring with Phineas, Its making me cry.
Well to give my two trias about it:
The ashes are one of the guilds I respect most. You are not a guild that takes anyone (hmm, not like something called \"The Core\", I dont know what this is, but they once rushed over Hydlaa, all of there names had no meaning to me (Well except of the old gambler Kian))
You dont have something called leader. And you are a invite only guild, something I really appreciate against those, mass-recruiters.
The only thing I can say, Keep on with it.
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Originally posted by Merdarion
Ahrg! I hate it when friends start quarelling.
Draklar stop arguring with Phineas, Its making me cry.
Come come, Sirvion. What\'s a little friendly banter amongst snobs?
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Draklar, when Annah and Phinehas started fighting on your thread you were quick to comment on that, and ordered them to take their little fight elsewhere. I don\'t like the whole \"do like I say but not like I do\" thing so please stop and prove that you are better than Annah and Phinehas were that day.
...and Phin you know we don\'t need these discussions here ;)
Merdarion, thanks a lot for your kind words, I really appreciate it :)
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Oh, I thought that discussing about statement brought up by one of members was on topic.
But if it isn\'t then I\'m sorry, really.
- Swords
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Sorry for starting an arguement I meant well on your way of being a dominant guild. I know you guys are very active, just a little misunderstanding... I do have a question though: Now, is the reason you dont have a leader because you want to have a guild that can recruit the high profile players or does it just fit your personalities?
Depthblade: Im sure it is a good environment. With their work ethic, I assume it inspires the guild to stay very active.
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Before I decided to start Ashes, I was in Shadowhand under the leadership of Errion. I had lots of fun and was happy with my position as a servant. When our guild died I felt the need to avenge it by making a gathering of old SH members and other people of PS.
I looked at the other guilds and saw the same structure in all of them. I wanted to prove that I can create a guild without declaring myself the leader.
I guess that is what attracts people, the fact that they are under nobody\'s command. Old guild leader\'s like Depthblade and Phinehas know how it is to lead a guild and are probably tired of it. In Ashes they don\'t have to lead but still don\'t have to be under somebody\'s command ;)
EDIT: and most important. The member\'s are in focus as you can see from our current website...and will see on our new website ;)
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I can understand the attractiveness.
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That\'s the great thing about Ashes. Like Tybalt said, there\'s no leader, but we\'re not leaders either. I don\'t have to have the headache and responsibility of keeping my guild alive and successful, but at the same time I\'m not struggling to rise in ranks or griping about. Since there\'s no one leader, guild policy is made by all of us. There\'s all the benefits of being a guild leader, with none of the detractions. I can be my own person without having to try and fit into the boxes of certain ranks or guild goals that were made with no consideration of my character. In Ashes, I create my own ranks, and the guild goals are those in which I truly believe, not those that are \"close enough\".