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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Harkin on January 20, 2005, 04:08:22 am

Title: simple yet confusing question
Post by: Harkin on January 20, 2005, 04:08:22 am: i need some advice, i need to make my linux partition bigger the current HDA3 is only 9.4G, 8G used, how could i make it bigger?

or is there no way?
or should i create another partition/extention?

i want to leave at least 15Gigs for windows, so i was going to give linux about 20gigs, since the 40gig harddrive only actually has 37gigs :\\

any help please :)
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on January 20, 2005, 04:24:16 am: My \"120gig\" hd only had 111 :(
Anyways, my best advice would be get another 40 gig and transfer one of em to the new one. I dont partition my drives since I have 2 and I have no need too. Only 1 os, windows :)

I dont think a 40 gig drive runs more than 30 bucks. My 120 gig hd was 50 bucks on sale :) Like 800rpm too :)
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Post by: JellyWerker on January 20, 2005, 06:09:59 am: try gparted, it can resize pretty well.
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Post by: Harkin on January 20, 2005, 11:56:32 am: i dont have the money or need for another drive and if i was going to, i would just get an 80gig around $55 :\\

the problem was i made the linux partition smaller than i should have when i installed gentoo, so now im riding the edge, well not so much now that i cleaned out my portage temp files... 2.1gig?!?! wow, need to remember to clean that out more often :D
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Post by: Harkin on January 20, 2005, 10:53:40 pm: ermm hmm... it has seemed with the lack of 2 floppies, i have only one, i cant create a boot disk for parted and a root disk... so i cant go that route :(

i dont want to install windows until after i have my linux partition in place...

well before i destroy my 48 hours+ of work, can i just change the number of cylinders in fdisk to make a partition bigger? or will that destroy my data on the partition? and by doing this, will i have to remount the ext3 filesystem? and will that destroy the data?
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Post by: Seytra on January 20, 2005, 11:06:51 pm: The issue of harddrives being smaller than advertised is due to a common unit confusion, employed as trick by manufacturers in order to fool the customer.
The manufacturers like to quote the size as Gigabyte, which is \"one-thousand millions of bytes\", which is the scientificly correct factor. However, the commonly used factor for \"Gigabytes\" is 1024*1024*1024 bytes.
Therefore, a harddisk that has 80 Gigabyte in fact only has 74,5 Gigabytes, which is quite a difference.

Almost every harddisk tool uses the commonly used factor, which is why you\'ll see the difference after installing the harddrive.

Therefore, the manufacturers are scientificly correct, but are abusing the fact that the commonly used factor is different, so they may be considered morally wrong (as increasingly usual).

@ Efflixi: 800 rpm might be a bit slow, though. ;)

Edit: @ Harkin: DON\'T!
If you change the partition size, the file system will not change. Therefore, you will not gain any space by it. It might not damage anything, but I\'m not exactly sure.

Having said that, I advise you to try to either get two more floppies or use a second computer as replacement.

You can easily back-up the contents of a floppy using the dd command of Linux. Therefore, use some driver disks or whatever that don\'t contain any copy protection crap, and back them up to files on the harddisk. Now you have three floppies, can partition, and then restore the floppy image to them afterwards.

OR you can go with that single floppy, by having the images on the second computer, and overwriting the disk according to what is required at which stage. It\'ll take more time, but you can do this. I have done this once while installing Linux. :) However, it will fail if the program changes anything on the floppy. In this case, you need to dump the image from the disk after each insertion in the other computer, so that you can put it back in the form it is expected. This should not be necessary, but just to be sure, you know it. You can check if this is necessary by write-protecting the disk (to see if the program complains), or simply do it \"just in case\".
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Post by: Harkin on January 20, 2005, 11:26:46 pm: i dont have any more floppies! err

i dont care about advertised space and all that, so our 80gig is only 74gigs woo, big whoop.

so im guessing stay away from fdisk? ok cool :)

so um, anyone wanna lend me a floppy? :)
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Post by: Seytra on January 21, 2005, 12:01:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by Harkin
i dont have any more floppies! err

Wow! I didn\'t think there were people without floppies so soon, but hey. :)
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Originally posted by Harkin
so um, anyone wanna lend me a floppy? :)

Well, I would give you some of the hundreds of floppies that are cluttering my room, but I guess that\'s not that feasible. :) Maybe someone you know still has some? Maybe your local store still sells them, or your local computer store might just give you some if you ask nicely.
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Post by: Harkin on January 22, 2005, 03:42:26 am: so I got another floppy, make a root disk, but everytime I run the parted disk, then insert the root disk I always get a \"KERNAL PANIC\"

so annoying... if anyone can help me make a working root disk, then please do, I really wanna go ahead and install XP ;(
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Post by: Seytra on January 22, 2005, 04:40:23 am: What exactly does it say before the panic? Are you sure you created the root disk eaxctly the way it is required, and also with a kernel that supports everything you need (not without floppy support ;) )?
I\'m sort of winging this, as I haven\'t worked with parted yet.
You might find this guide (http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_1.html#SEC7) interesting, especially since at the very end of the page it explains how to use parted if your bootdisk doesn\'t support your harddisk, as seems to be the case.