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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kiva on January 24, 2005, 05:31:57 pm
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By special request of the Dev team, this thread is made.
The rules are simple; post any l33tsp34k words you know, and their respective translations and help the team make a l33tsp34k translator for PS. But please don\'t repeat stuff that\'s already been said. :)
Just to give an example:
d00d - annoying person
1337 - great
w00t - wonderful loot
And so on. :)
Currently, the list holds: (Yes, I\'m doing it the lazy way)
A- @, 4, /-\\
B- 8, b
C- [, c
D- |>, d
E- 3, e
F- f
G- 9, g
H- |-|, h
I- 1, I, |
J- J
K- |<
L- L, [
M- |\\/|, /\\/\\
N- |\\|, n
O- 0
P- p
Q- q , kw
R- r, |2
S- z, s, 5
T- t, 7
U- OO, |_|
V- \\/, v
W- \\/\\/, w
X- x, ><
Y- j, J, \'/
Z- z
Some Common Words (see there are lots of others already said these, but what the hell ) :
teh - the
l337 ( |337, l33t), elite
ph34r, fear
pr0n, pornography
sploitz, exploits
0wned ( pwn, pwn3d, pwnz0r3d or pwnx0r3d ), completely dominated.
r00t, administrator privileges
m4d sk1llz, talent of one sort or another
n00b, newbie
ghey (gh3y, g4y ), gay ... in games used to describe a negative result
w00t or the smiley \\o/, \"woohoo!\" usually used to describe a positive result
hax0r, \"hacker\", where the symbols are used to draw rough approximations to letters ha><0|2 (x=>< and |@ = r) etc. Haxor is sometimes found as \"Haxxor\", as symbols for \"x\" are often doubled.
h4x (haxs), hacks\"
rox0rs, rocks
sux0rz, sucks
suxxor, something or more often someone undesirable
ub3r, ?ber / super
b4k4, Japanese word \"baka\", meaning idiots or stupidity
omg Ohh my god
0m6
newb Newbie
narb
n3wbi3
n00b
noob
noobie
nub
n008
newbian
newbz
no0bz
noobzorz
n00bz0rz
1337 Elite
L337
L33T
IEET
Leet
Eleet
3l337
3L33T
31337
133t
h4xx hacks/Hacker
h4x
h4x0r
h4xx0r
haxxor
haxx0rz
ha>h4><
hax
haxx
haxx0r
pr0n Pornography
pron
gh3y gay
ghey
g4y
teh The
thar There
eye I
3y3
sux0rz Sucks
suxzor
roxzor Rocks
roxorz
r0x0r
r0x0rz
fux F*ck
fuxx
fuxz0r
ph34r fear
n07
n0t not
ub3r really good
j00 You/Jew
joo
jew
ju
j3w
u
j00r
pwn Owned
own
0wn
ownage
pwnt
pwning
pwned
pwnge
winnar Winner
These can just be automatically removed from the chat, or replaced with some kind of automatic graphical emotion of some kind.
btw= by the way
idk= I dont know
lmao= laughing my ass off
ttyl= talk to you later
uber= uhh... good?
rofl= rolling on the floor laughing
afaik=as far as i know
bbiaf=be back in a few
bbiah=hour
bbl=be back later
wtf : Expression of anger or confusion.
lol : Expression of happiness
u2 : you too
cya : Goodbye
ty : thank you
yw : you\'re welcome
dunno : I don\'t know
afk : I have to go for a while
btw : by the way
P|-|34r t3h R34p4er = Fear me
w00t = an expression of great happiness
Uber = German for super
h4x0r = great cheater, hacker
omgwtfbbq = Oh My god what the #@$% BBBQ
lol = laugh out loud
wtf = same as omgwtfbbq, just without bbq and omg
n00b = begginner
Buttsecks = Same as what it sounds
pr0n = same as popcorn
t3h g0d = a higher ranking n00b
n00blit = n00bs below the age of 15
l33t = THe highest ranking type of n00b
j00 = you
wh4ck0rs = wierd and pathetic
ex0t|c = exotic dancing men
h00ters! = a humper
!k|ll3r 345! = A a fanatic crazy about killing
g4y = same as it sounds
B4|) @$$ = tough
I guess that\'s it so far. I added a few changes. They\'re the ones with Italic.
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d00d should be \"fellow\"
*nods*
umm ph34r should be \"fear\" :P
No time to think more atm :P
Edit: j0 --> \"Hail!\" xD
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j00 = you
f00 = fool
r0x0rz = Rocks (ie - that rocks!)
pwnd = owned (victorius)
classic one used in many ways - n00b = i\'d say another word for fool, idiot, genrally used when someone makes a mistake infront of a lot of people
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What about Internet Slang?
omg
wtf
lol
etc...
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Originally posted by Moogie
What about Internet Slang?
omg
wtf
lol
etc...
You could change that to
By the gods!
Out upon it!
*laughs out loud* (this can be actually risky if someone has \"lol\" in his name ;) )
But that will encourage people to use it as shortcuts I guess xD
Edit:
h8 --> \"hate\"
w8 --> \"wait\"
some1 --> \"someone\"
ne1 --> \"anyone\"
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I think it\'d be a nice touch if stuff like lol, rotfl would be translated to /me laughs out loud. And /me rolls on the floor laughing. Also *grin* could be /me grins. etc... More like wishlist stuff :)
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What I have seen in other games, is that people always find ways to use some words while they are \'disabled\' or something. So if you for example want to translate \'rofl\', you have to translate \'r0fl, rof l, ro fl, r ofl, r0f l rof:l\' .....etc... as well, else it is useless. But isn\'t that too much work?
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People actually change the spelling when it translates to *rolls on the floor laughing*?
I refuse to believe every single person using that is actually that stupid o.o
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only the really sad l337ers will go to lengths to show the shorthand as it is, most will just type rofl for easyness, besides, we can watch them chat to see what players alter to get their \'coolness\' through and add their alternate ways until the ygive up ^^
hey! dont forget \'l337\' !! for that we could put ... uhm
they say \"im l337!!!11one1!!\"
translation \"I\'m one of those players that has the attention span of a newt :)\"
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hax0r --> \"magic\"
l4m3r --> \"yokel\"
sux0r/sux0rz/sux0rs --> \"awful\"
rox0r/rox0rz/rox0rs --> \"great\"
sk1llz --> \"skills\"
13wt -->\"loot\"
ub3r --> \"great\"
m4d --> \"mad\"
pr0n --> uhm... \"nudity\" ^^
btw: why \"w00t\" isn\'t \"woohoo!\"?
Because w00t is something people started to say back in the days before Diablo, when they found some w0nderful lo0t. Thus \"w00t!!!!!1oneone\". You\'re happy because you find some great stuff. Makes sense, mmm? :) - Grono
oh and lvl --> \"level\"?
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woohoo is teh sux3k that is why...
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STFU - You sir be quiet ;)
w00t - should be supreme happiness
teh - the
roxxor - happy but not supremely
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You could change all @ to \'a\' altho\' on its own it would be \'at\' :/
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pwn = (check pronoun and outputs adequete form of the verb \"to be\") better than.
(e.g. i pwn you = I am better than)
@$$ = backside
g4y = queer
4 = for
u = you
1 = I
Also, there should be a script which checks for what comes after an exclemation mark. If this is found to contain more exclemation marks, 1s, or the word \"one\", then the whole \'word\' is shortened to \"!\"
(e.g. Great!!!!!!!!11111111oneoneone I think it\'s a good idea
would become:
\"Great! I think it\'s a good idea.\")
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Originally posted by mikedean
pwnd = owned (victorius)
Actually, \"pwned\" means \"defeated,\" not \"victorious.\"
\"pwn4ge\" (ownage), on the other hand, does mean \"victory\"...
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P|-|34r t3h R34p4er = Fear me
w00t = an expression of great happiness
Uber = German for super
h4x0r = great cheater, hacker
omgwtfbbq = Oh My god what the #@$% BBBQ
lol = laugh out loud
wtf = same as omgwtfbbq, just without bbq and omg
n00b = begginner
Buttsecks = Same as what it sounds
pr0n = same as popcorn
t3h g0d = a higher ranking n00b
n00blit = n00bs below the age of 15
l33t = THe highest ranking type of n00b
j00 = you
wh4ck0rs = wierd and pathetic
ex0t|c = exotic dancing men
h00ters! = a humper
!k|ll3r 345! = A a fanatic crazy about killing
g4y = same as it sounds
B4|) @$$ = tough
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From the thread so far:
@$$ = \"backside\"
1337, l33t - \"great\", \"wonderful\"
13wt - \"loot\"
4 = \"for\"
d00d - \"annoying person\"
f00 = \"fool\"
g4y = \"queer\"
h8 - \"hate\"
hax0r - \"magic\"
j0 - \"hail!\"
j00 = \"you\"
l4m3r - \"yokel\"
lol - \"how amusing\"
m4d - \"excessive\" (as in m4dsk1llz = quite skilled)
n00b - \"Foolish child\"
ne1 - \"anyone\"
omg - \"by the Gods!\"
ph34r - \"fear\"
pr0n - \"nudity\"
pwn - \"to defeat\"
pwnt, pwnd - \"defeated\"
rox0r, rox0rz, rox0rs - \"most excellent\"
sk1llz - \"skills\"
some1 - \"someone\"
STFU - \"You sir be quiet\"
sux0r, sux0rz, sux0rs - \"awful\"
teh - \"the\"
u = \"you\"
ub3r, ubar, ub4r - \"great\"
w00t - \"wonderful loot\", \"wow!\", \"I do feel all aquiver\"
w8 - \"wait\"
wtf - \"my word, how queer\" :D
1337sp3ak - \"the fools language\"
f4g - \"protagonist\"
fux0r - \"to damage\"
fux0red - \"broken\"
lo - \"hello\"
OH NOES!!!1 - \"oh my\"
sup - \"How fares thee, traveller? I trust you are well\"
w3wtz0rz - \"oh for joy and happiness\"
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4 = \"for\"
risky, I rarely use \'4\' instead of \'four\' but still it can bring lots of confusion.
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Originally posted by Moogie
What about Internet Slang?
omg
wtf
lol
etc...
omg -> One Marvellous Golmir
wtf -> World Tooth of fear
(Im) lagging o lagging (!!!!!!!!!!)
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omg is for oh my god isnt it ?
wtf I dunno
lol... its international its when you are laughing
u2 : you too
cya : see ya
ty : thank you
yw : you\'re welcome
dunno : I don\'t know
afk : can\'t write anything... cant read too
btw : by the way
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french ones :
mdr (mort de rire) : you are dead because you laugh too much
ptdr (p?t? de rire) : same thing but in fact you explode before dying
a12c4 (? un de ces quatres) : see ya
Originally posted by Draklar
4 = \"for\"
risky, I rarely use \'4\' instead of \'four\' but still it can bring lots of confusion.
you want something confusing ?
\"j\'en veux plus\" means \"I want more\" or \"I don\'t want anymore\"
Il y en a plus means \"there is no more of it\" or \"there are more of it\"
Just because people forget to write \"ne\" before the verb today...
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Originally posted by fken
omg -> One Marvellous Golmir
*laughs a\'loud*
We should do that just to confuse people. It would be hilarious.
\"dud watz a \'golmir\'?\"
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fken: \"Dunno\" isn\'t Internet slang. :P
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What will the translator do if it finds a word that is neither on it\'s \"Chatspeak List\" or a real word/seemingly real word? - for example if somebody says \"om fg\"? Lets assume that it doesn\'t recognise it as a derivative of \"omg\" and substitute \"one marvellous Golmir\" :)
Does it:
A) Do nothing and show the chatspeak
B) Not show the chat
C) not show the chat and add the unrecognised word to a list
d) Replace the chatspeak with a character or space
e) Do something else?
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afaik=as far as i know
bbiaf=be back in a few
bbiah=hour
bbl=be back later
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btw= by the way
idk= I dont know
lmao= laughing my ass off
ttyl= talk to you later
uber= uhh... good?
rofl= rolling on the floor laughing
This is fun :) We should make a 1337 speak dictionary :D
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Originally posted by swift
What will the translator do if it finds a word that is neither on it\'s \"Chatspeak List\" or a real word/seemingly real word? - for example if somebody says \"om fg\"? Lets assume that it doesn\'t recognise it as a derivative of \"omg\" and substitute \"one marvellous Golmir\" :)
Does it:
A) Do nothing and show the chatspeak
B) Not show the chat
C) not show the chat and add the unrecognised word to a list
d) Replace the chatspeak with a character or space
e) Do something else?
A of course. Think of the names. :D
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Uber isnt \"leet speak\" clowns... its German for \"super\" or used in a context where something needs to be described as being of a high quality, value or status.
Further more half of that garbage thats being posted is also not leet speak but acronyms for various commonly used messages.
True leet contains absolutely no letters but is comprised of numbers and symbols. It was used in the 80s by early generation hackers to communicate with each other without the risk of an administrator \"listening\" in on their conversation. Only recently has it been bastardised by try hard script kiddies and FPS gamers.
I laugh at the thought that RuneScape uses this same system to filter and substitute words.
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Originally posted by Cirque
Uber isnt \"leet speak\" clowns... its German for \"super\" or used in a context where something needs to be described as being of a high quality, value or status.
Everyone knows that... but ub3r is 1337
Same for the rest of this facts... the history of 1337 speak is widely known...
That doesn\'t change the fact that it is unwelcome, now does it? :rolleyes:
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No \"ub3r\" is moron for \"uber\". To bad for non english speaking players. Looks like its role playing in english or not at all.
I dont care if leet speak is unwelcome in this game or not im simply saying that what your refering to as leet speak is just simply chat abbreviations etc.
I am yet to see one person use leet speak or any other form of \"unwelcome\" communication in PS to date.
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Originally posted by Moogie
fken: \"Dunno\" isn\'t Internet slang. :P
It isn\'t a word either. Unless you think Ain\'t and Gonna are words too, but then you\'re a ghetto gangsta, and not some fluffy white enki. :)
Originally posted by Cirque
I laugh at the thought that RuneScape uses this same system to filter and substitute words.
What system is it RS is using, and what does it have to do with the one PS is using? Please be so kind as to tell me that, since you seem to know all about it. But for your information, the program isn\'t even written yet, and how it works? How are you to know? It hasn\'t been made! Duh?... :)
As for all the silly discussion on whether or not it\'s leetspeak.. Look at it this way. If it doesn\'t fit in a medieval/fantasy setting, it\'s leetspeak, so uber, ub3r, m00, and pretty much any other german words that can be found in the middle of an english sentence are leetspeak words. They\'re not supposed to be there, and the sentence can be easily written without it. I\'m not saying that\'s how YOU might define leetspeak, but for now, that\'s how it is.
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I still think the best way to eliminate this kind of business (I brought this up in another post) is to replace any sentence that contains any character other than a letter or a puctuation mark (read: numerals or symbols) or punctuation marks that are not immediately followed by a space or a quote with \" mumbles unintelligibly.\" This way, we don\'t have to worry about alternate spelling of leetspeak words used to circumvent any filter.
None of those aformentioned characters are actually needed to convey any ideas, they can all be replaced by real words, in any language:
& = and
% = percent
$ = dollar
# = pound or number
@ = at
2 = two
5 = five
etc.
I think this is a better solution than a translator because it can get rid of most of the \"offending\" speech patterns without requiring an extensive list of the unwanted \"words\" (which can be circumvented anyway) and without causing problems for people who are not typing in English.
This restriction should not be placed on /tells or /helps, for obvious reasons.
Granted, it WON\'T get rid of some of the other patterns we don\'t like to see like lol, rofl, wtf, omg, etc. but there may be a solution to that as well - user translations! Here\'s how they might work:
Chat: /defs omg
Chat: Jimminy Christmas!
Now whenever I type \"omg\" by itself in the chat window, the server would see that I have a macro set for it and would
/say Jimminy Christmas!
Likewise:
Chat: /defm rofl
Chat: is lauging so hard he can\'t breathe!
so a /defs defines a /say macro, and a /defm defines a /me macro. These are the only message types that can be /def\'ed. And messages sent via a /def\'ed macro have to abide by the same symbol/numeral rule as mentioned above.
Better yet, /def\'s could be the responsibility of the client, relieving server resources, and nobody really cares what word you use to prompt one of these responses anyway.
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Of course, the numeral/symbol restriction (we already have such a rule in place for character names!) doesn\'t preclude the use of a list of \"words\" to further control messages, as in a profanity filter -- the two concepts can be used together -- but this simple restriction would drastically reduce the complexity of any attempt to parse for content, since many of the \"offending\" words which would constitute a large portion of the list would be eliminated by the character restriction!
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It isn\'t a word either. Unless you think Ain\'t and Gonna are words too
Well they are actually words in Black English which is a pidgin language. Don\'t have to be a ghetto gangsta\' to talk that ;)
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Originally posted by Gronomist
Unless you think Ain\'t and Gonna are words too, but then you\'re a ghetto gangsta, and not some fluffy white enki. :)
What?!? I use all three of these everyday, very often at that. And if anyone looked at me they would not see a \'ghetto gangta\', unless their definition of it is a pale, hairy kid, who spends to much time inside.
If one visited the southern United States (at least the eastern part of it) one will hear these all the time. You are actually more likely actually to hear them out in the country rather than an urban area.
Now the southern speech was partially influenced by the black slave population that had been brought here. But this happened long ago and while the various populations continue to have influence over each other these words have nothing to do with today\'s gangs or cities.
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Personally I think it\'s enough just to keep leetspeak out... not to try and make everyone talk in \"proper English\" with absolutely no slangwords like \'dunno\' or \'gonna\'. Sure, those words probably wern\'t around in medieval times, but come on... be reasonable here.
Seriously, how many people can honestly say they have a problem with these \'normal\' words enough to filter them??
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ain\'t and so on are american slang... and frankly, there was no america in medieval times. ;)
\"Probably\" isn\'t the word when talking about existance of these things :P
Anyway, there was no such words as
isn\'t, I\'m, don\'t, we\'d
and so on... there was only
is not, I am, do not, we would,
as well as
\'twould, \'twas, \'tis, etc
I wonder if you want to remove these words as well :P
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Thanks for this sarcasm Draklar ;)
The idea to ban 1337 sounds okay, but don\'t take it too far. If every second line I say gets modified because of whatsoever I\'d go rampage.
Hello? This is supposed to be a game and not the preamble of a constitution! Where\'s the fun when every second line gets censored or changed? How will you be able to give your character some nifty dialect if you ban every word that Oxford Dictionary doesn\'t contain yet? (Yeah, yeah, noone actually said that...)
And why all that? Because it\'s \'unnatural\', doesn\'t fit into the evolutionary age of the game world. Bull-derdash. So what about the following: Having to wait 10 seconds before getting a reply from a conversation partner is unnatural, so I say if you can\'t type at least 60 words per minute you\'re out... for roleplaying\'s sake... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Pogopuschel
(Yeah, yeah, noone actually said that...)
btw: Yeah was also non-existant
>.>
<.<
*whips off*
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Gronomist -> There is no medieval english, what you are talking about is a a number of dialects that differed from region to region and would probably make those donna, ain\'t and so far look like upper class language.
If you refer to the writings you might have seen that date to those times you are talking about the few educated persons that could read and/or write at the time and not the common people that inhabited the land.
I agree with you about PS not being invaded with leatspeak and other common chat acronyms but you should really review your argumentation because stating that a language is not valid because not spoken into medieval times automaticaly bars you from any kind of ruling on language forms as no rules existed in those times to determine what was proper from what was not (vocabulary and orthograph wise) making dunno, ain\'t ... valid forms of speech
Of course I might have misunderstood you in which case you have my apologies.
Here under an extract of medieval english (from the year 1200 to 1400)
Loke who that is most vertuous alway,
Prive and apert, and most entendeth ay
To do the gentil dedes that he can,
And take him for the gretest gentilman.
Canterbury Tales. The Wif of Bathes Tale. Line 6695
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Ok this is getting out of hand.First with the name changes that didn\'t fit into the \"setting\".Now trying to make people speak proper English and removing any slang,abreviations and so forth.If you all really want to get technical,NONE of these rules apply.There was no such thing as medieval Europe,Old America or anything.The medieval language,setting and doesn\'t apply here.This is Yliakum.And I am REALLY getting tired of people trying to change,censor and everyhting else to fit a certain \"idea\" of how a game should be played.This dictatorial action that has been showing up is really starting to get out of hand.Who are you people to tell me how i should or should not act in a game? If i feel like saying slang or shortening to abbreviations its my call to do so,and i\'ll be damned if I am forced to have to change my patterns for someone elses idea of roleplay.If i feel like adding my own personal nuances to my character then i should have the freedom to do so.Don\'t tell me i have to change dialogue or act a certain way to fit your ideals.I will play as i see fit and as long as it isn\'t offensive,derogatory or any other reason the chat filters were made then let me play as i feel fit.If you want to eliminate ways that people talk then make it in your client.It isnt fair to have the developers make this type of thing and force people to use it because you don\'t like to read it.Fix it yourself.Oh and while we are at it since there isn\'t such as thing as Medieval England in our setting why don\'t we just lose the English completely and have the Developers make a complete language for us all to learn so we can be the same.
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Originally posted by Sabrewulf
Who are you people to tell me how i should or should not act in a game? If i feel like saying slang or shortening to abbreviations its my call to do so,and i\'ll be damned if I am forced to have to change my patterns for someone elses idea of roleplay. Etc.
The people who\'ve decided this is a good idea are the PS devs, and not just some random person with insane ideas. Besides, I know this is not europe around 1000 AC, but you have to keep in mind that the whole game is based on a medieval fantasy setting, and not on a Sci-fi NanoTech Futurama setting.
So, no more complaining, because it isn\'t for you to decide. This thread is simply for making a list of possible items for the translator, not arguing whether or not it\'s a good idea. If you don\'t like this thread - IGNORE it.
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Eh, did you just make sarcastic comment against yourself? 8o
Using english comes from the simple fact that no one will be stupid enough to come up with brand new language to use in fantasy setting. And since we consider english as the \"common language\", the old english applies here as well. Using old was always good etiquette for roleplayers since it was giving better medievalish feeling. Nothing more, nothing less. And I have no idea what you people are talking about. Did someone actually said anything about enforcing old english?
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I just want to know, Can we use smiley ?
Because it\'s an international way to express emotions, feelings...
And if it\'s not allowed, why not try to list some common smiley and their english description ?
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Ummm, I did not reply because I wanted to condone the use of these words, I replied to Gronomist\'s comment. I wanted it to be shown that using those \'words\' reflected a particlular patern of speech that is common in the south (US that is).
Now I would probably never use these words in written language unless it was in a dialog that I wanted to contain an accent. The letters in these \'words\' were used to reflect the speech of those who use them while speaking. These should not be used ingame as they would be reflecting an particular accent not used in the medival setting.
Originally posted by Draklar
Using english comes from the simple fact that no one will be stupid enough to come up with brand new language to use in fantasy setting.
I think you are forgetting someone.... Book writers will often use new languages to use in their setting, one in particular comes to mind, Tolkien. Though I have yet to see a writer write there book in the new language ;)
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Originally posted by Lhun Duum
I just want to know, Can we use smiley ?
I usually see people using smileys only after \"ooc:\", between [ ] etc.
/me rules in tavern :P
Kwip: I kept that in mind, but:
1) Tolkien\'s languages weren\'t complete ones.
2) Weren\'t used as \"common\" language.
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Would add more, but I have class. Didnt read any one else\'s posts, so dont yell if i repeat:
omg Ohh my god
0m6
newb Newbie
narb
n3wbi3
n00b
noob
noobie
nub
n008
newbian
newbz
no0bz
noobzorz
n00bz0rz
1337 Elite
L337
L33T
IEET
Leet
Eleet
3l337
3L33T
31337
133t
h4xx hacks/Hacker
h4x
h4x0r
h4xx0r
haxxor
haxx0rz
ha>h4><
hax
haxx
haxx0r
pr0n Pornography
pron
gh3y gay
ghey
g4y
teh The
thar There
eye I
3y3
sux0rz Sucks
suxzor
roxzor Rocks
roxorz
r0x0r
r0x0rz
fux F*ck
fuxx
fuxz0r
ph34r fear
n07
n0t not
ub3r really good
j00 You/Jew
joo
jew
ju
j3w
u
j00r
pwn Owned
own
0wn
ownage
pwnt
pwning
pwned
pwnge
winnar Winner
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http://www.einados.com/translate.cfm
Above links to a l33t speak generator.
check out
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/L33t
Has some good ones like \"teh\", the (common mispeelings :p mispellings used instead of the real world).
http://www.planetquake.com/turkey/l33t.htm
Mentions dialects between groups and guides to read (think didn\'t read too much of any of the above)
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\"83L03 @|23 50|\\/|3 L3773|25 70 l33t\"
Below are some letters to leet.
Just remember there are meant to be different dialects to l33t speak but I doubt that matters much anymore.
A- @, 4, /-\\
B- 8, b
C- [, c
D- |>, d
E- 3, e
F- f
G- 9, g
H- |-|, h
I- 1, I, |
J- J
K- |<
L- L, [
M- |\\/|, /\\/\\
N- |\\|, n
O- 0
P- p
Q- q , kw
R- r, |2
S- z, s, 5
T- t, 7
U- OO, |_|
V- \\/, v
W- \\/\\/, w
X- x, ><
Y- j, J, \'/
Z- z
Some Common Words (see there are lots of others already said these, but what the hell :D) :
teh - the
l337 ( |337, l33t), elite
ph34r, fear
pr0n, pornography
sploitz, exploits
0wned ( pwn, pwn3d, pwnz0r3d or pwnx0r3d ), completely dominated.
r00t, administrator privileges
m4d sk1llz, talent of one sort or another
n00b, newbie
ghey (gh3y, g4y ), gay ... in games used to describe a negative result
w00t or the smiley \\o/, \"woohoo!\" usually used to describe a positive result
hax0r, \"hacker\", where the symbols are used to draw rough approximations to letters ha><0|2 (x=>< and |@ = r) etc. Haxor is sometimes found as \"Haxxor\", as symbols for \"x\" are often doubled.
h4x (haxs), hacks\"
rox0rs, rocks
sux0rz, sucks
suxxor, something or more often someone undesirable
ub3r, ?ber / super
b4k4, Japanese word \"baka\", meaning idiots or stupidity
0|<, teh ph34r t@|<35 h0Ld /me |2un0rz
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Originally posted by Draklar
Did someone actually said anything about enforcing old english?
I was only referring to a comment made about certain words being unappropriate for a medieval setting because not in the dictionnary by remarking that medieval english as such was fixed by no rules and thus no words could be excluded from being spoken ingame for such a reason (except of course for leatspeek and common acronyms which did not exist in those times).
It had nothing to do with the developper\'s decision to enforce the translation of leat language to common english which I approve of. Of course this could also be done by making leat one of the strange dialects spoken inside PS :o)
Note : Enforcing old english, twould be a right nice idea as it would basically suppress all rules about how to write and using french as part of a phrase (old french of course) :))
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Well that comment was, of course, right.
If people will see:
omg, w00t, pwn3d, l8r - it will give them chat feeling
ain\'t, gonna, betcha - it will give them modern feeling
shan\'t, forsooth, alas - it will give them medieval feeling
Also, I can\'t find Grono saying anything about dictionary.
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Originally posted by Draklar
Well that comment was, of course, right.
If people will see:
omg, w00t, pwn3d, l8r - it will give them chat feeling
ain\'t, gonna, betcha - it will give them modern feeling
shan\'t, forsooth, alas - it will give them medieval feeling
Also, I can\'t find Grono saying anything about dictionary.
You are actually defending me Draklar? Gee... I never thought I\'d live to see that. :)
Anyway, I\'m going to start moving stuff up to the first post, so... Yeah. Then it\'ll be easier to get an overview of things.
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@Draklar : the word Dictionary is not mentioned as such but making a statement saying it is not a word refers to a dictionary as no other reference could be used to confirm the validity, or not, of a word.
shan\'t and alas give me a renaissance feel not a medieval one :)) if you want to go medieval look up middle english or old english, here\'s an extract of middle :
1: The double sorwe of Troilus to tellen,
2: That was the kyng Priamus sone of Troye,
3: In louynge how his auentures fellen
4: ffro wo to wele, and after out of ioie,
5: My purpos is, er that I parte fro ye.
6: Thesiphone, thow help me for tendite
7: Thise woful vers that wepen as I write.
8: To the clepe I, thow goddesse of torment,
9: Thow cruwel furie, sorwynge euere in peyne,
10: Help me that am the sorwful instrument
11: That helpeth loueres, as I kan, to pleyne;
12: ffor wel sit it, the sothe for to seyne,
13: A woful wight to han a drery feere,
14: And to a sorwful tale a sory chere.
15: ffor I, that god of loues seruantz serue,
16: Ne dar to loue, for myn vnliklynesse,
17: Preyen for speed, al sholde I ther-fore sterue,
18: So fer am I from his help in derknesse;
19: But natheles, if this may don gladnesse
20: To any louere and his cause auaille,
21: Haue he my thonk, and myn be this trauaille.
I\'ll spare you old english as I do not believe anyone would understand it but if you feel like looking here is a nice reference :
http://www.georgetown.edu/labyrinth/
That said I understand what you mean about the modern feel and will not add to the polemic anymore since there is certainly no need for that :))
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Note : Enforcing old english, twould be a right nice idea as it would basically suppress all rules about how to write and using french as part of a phrase (old french of course)
Completely at a loss to what your saying. I think you are saying old english has no rules? anything goes... and has its bases in french?
Well by my understanding old english is considered apart of the germanic based languages it borrows heavily from Celtic and Latin (latin more important).
It was also called Anglo-Saxon, of which there are 4 dialects each with different rules/spelling. Considering most of us (including native speakers) struggle enough as it is with english I doubt inforcing a language twice removed and over a 1000 years old is the way to go. So my vote goes towards not enforcing old english ;).
Hopefully you don\'t take offence I truly don\'t understand the above comments to the effect that \"its not fixed by rules\"... as old english has rules like any other language. Anyway I said I\'m a little confused so forgive for my ignorance.
Not to mention this thread is at risk of heading off topic...
*edit* damn it you just added another thread saying you\'d doubt anyone would understand it and to add to it you throw in middle english... now I\'m at a complete loss /me shrugs then runs away */edit*
*another edit ;)* to the below, what I\'m saying though is it wasn\'t as easy as in the majority of the case only the priests and nobility were privy or could afford to learn, therefore it was hardly a language of the people. Though if I\'m right you are talking of the spoken/common language, the slang of its time... ok your right this can get interesting but... lets not go there and let the thread sail its merry l337 course. Thanks though for getting me and not taking it the wrong way (as I am always worried I come across as such). */edit*
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Hello Sty,
You\'re right of course about old english (or anglo-saxon) which I wouldn\'t wish on anyone, I barely understand it myself (although Bora might be more successfull in the endeavor). But after the invasion by the Duke of Normandy the mix between old french and old english gave as result middle english which contains a lot of words belonging to old french.
As for the rules, well you have to keep in mind that we are not speaking here about the written language, where some conventions (mostly concerning the form of phrases as words were read and written phonetically) did exist to enable it\'s reading by other persons, but about the spoken language (and not the one of the nobility alone but the one of the people also).
I hope this clarifies my previous post.
And you are right we are heading off topic so this will the last thing I post on the subject even though it is an interesting one :)
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i dont really have any new ones just wanted to point something out
wtf can equal what the **** OR where the ****
oh and i didnt see wth(what/where the hell)
(just realized that I forgot to say that it can mean why as well)
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I think there is a distinction that can be made (even if not always clearly) between two types of this \'l33tsp34k\':
1) Chat abbreviations and \'txt spk\': \"u r\" -> \"you are\", \"4\" -> \"for\", \"ne1\" -> \"anyone\", etc. These serve a useful purpose - cutting down the amount of typing needed - which is normally why they are used.
2) WR1+1|\\|6 3V3RY+|-|1N6 1|\\| |\\|U|\\/|B3RZ N 5Y|\\/|B0L5 N R0|\\|G SP3L1N6 just to make it look \'cool\' - or at least, the people who do this somehow manage to think it does.
IMHO, the second should be called \'l33tsp34k\', the first should not.
However, I agree that abbreviations like \"ne1\" are inappropriate for Planeshift (and most RPGs), so I think it would be a good idea to allow automatic replacement of them by \'real\' words; this would still allow players to use the abbreviations to shorten what they type, without spoiling the game; this should also be customisable by the player so they can add any extra abbreviations they want to use.
P.S. anyone who hasn\'t already seen it should check out the \'Hacker\' language translation of Google: http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/