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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Moogie on January 31, 2005, 07:22:34 pm

Title: Web Earth Online (A Free MMORPG Survival Sim)
Post by: Moogie on January 31, 2005, 07:22:34 pm
I\'m wondering if anyone else has played this before. Web Earth Online is a MMORPG with a little twist... you play an animal in a North American ecosystem. Your goal is to survive and breed. Sounds simple, but this game is actually extremely complex and involving. It runs in a Java applet, and seems rather slow, but you\'ll get used to it.

It\'s free to play untill you unlock the Condor species, and if you want to play some more advanced animals you\'ll have to pay a small fee. However, it\'s by no means necessary, as the free species are interesting, diverse and fun. :)

There are two active worlds, which are essentially clones of eachother. The first world is meant for new players who are just starting out and need to learn the basics. You\'ll need to find food, shelter, keep yourself clean, run from predators (or hunt prey if you are one). Time goes through all 4 seasons of the year and your survival tactics need to change accordingly- for some species, this means hibernating in winter. The second world is \"survival of the fittest\", focused on rough play and the struggle to stay alive. (I think this difference is only to the players... the gameplay doesn\'t seem to change between the two worlds).

There are always hundreds of NPC creatures in the world, making up for a lack of players (this game is several years old and sees 8 or 9 players max at any one time), and they properly live in the world just like players do. The AI is pretty smart- they hunt, breed, run if attacked, and fight for dominance. There\'s a ranking system in the world, which you\'ll need to be aware of if you are playing a Male- you\'ll need a high ranking dominance to be able to claim a female as your mate during your breeding season.

The current community there is rather inactive. I see a few kids playing from time to time (if you see someone called Arwen, give her my regards... and then eat her :P).

It\'d be nice for a few friends here to join me, if survival sim games are your cup of tea. :) I\'m currently playing out the end of my natural life as a condor- this one life has racked up over 20,000 points for me, more than you need to unlock all the free animals available. :D Not bad eh. You might see a few Moogichilds flying around, my proud lineage for when my current incarnation dies. Anyways, next I might try a King Snake, so I can get into those tree holes and steal some yummy chickies. ^^


Here\'s the site if you want to try it out:
http://www.webearthonline.com/


As a footnote, I\'d like to make sure people are aware of the advertising rules here... they\'re rather picky, but this is how the devs see it: Free = good, Open Source = good, Paid/Hack\'n\'Slash = bad :)
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Post by: JellyWerker on February 01, 2005, 02:06:50 am
It\'s fun! :D I thought it would be a weird greeenpeace \"save the species!\" game, but it isn\'t, and it has more strategy than most so called \"strategy\" computer games, which I like, now if they could only implement chess in ps...
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Post by: Foresteer on February 07, 2005, 10:44:22 am
wow nice link moogie :) the concept of the game is great! the gameplay.. not so much though n_n; i found it a little grinding in the time i played it (eat drink sleep poop raise combat skill mate raise kid rinse repeat)

The game is a little grind oriented as i said :/ but a concept i hope can be explored further (if i ever learn to not suck at coding then i would love to explore it :D ) as i was just blown away by the concept.. its fun =) if only on concept alone.. definantly something to be reccomended playing
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Post by: Harkin on February 07, 2005, 12:08:56 pm
when i played it i gave it my best, i ate some things, a snake kept running from me... but the sheer force behind trying to get the bird to move has to strenuating, so I gave up, but i agree a game like that would be really fun :)
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Post by: Foresteer on February 07, 2005, 12:48:47 pm
Yes just moving gets tiresome after some time XD a 3-d version of that would be awsome :D and though i know little on 3D and coding i do know it would be easy (well as much as easy applies to anything coding) to do animals are very easy model.. not to mention this type of game  is \"d00d\"- proof :) (i mean what fun would it be for the powerlevel type to play this? i mean maybe hunting as a preditor but if a point system like webearth was in place they would have to play for many herbavores before they got to \"grief\" or \"hunt\" so long in fact they would fizzle on it)

Also if it was 3D the moving would be easy and very fun (not any games have actualy implemented flying as a animal/race.. they all talk about it.. but never has it been done as far as i know) As an AWSD would work wonders :) (and then some fly/walk toggle key.. like maybe right ctrl and then a jump as maybe shift)

i would so love to make something like this and its just compounding how much i wish i could code... but i cant learn from books (i can never ask a book a question :/ and a lot of coding has confusing questionable stuff XD ) and classes cost to much.. so i\'m basicaly screw to live a life of \"i wish i could make this but i can\'t code\" :\'( as i have all the free time all the modivation but none of the knowledge
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Post by: Moogie on February 07, 2005, 01:42:46 pm
I\'ve always dreamed of a fully 3D game like this. In particular, my vision is that of a cheetah in persuit of a thompson\'s gazel- both real players, both fighting for survival.

I\'d be more than happy to help create such a thing, since its my dream to see it happen. But I\'m an artist, not a coder. ;)
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Post by: Foresteer on February 07, 2005, 02:04:10 pm
that woudl truely be amazing.. not to mention orignal in this time of cookie cutter games :) i also am no coder.. nor artist n_n; i would love to learn 3D modeling and coding but as of now i am the \"concept guy\" (no clue the official name of it XP ) although my vision is more hawk versus hawk in areal combat :D but such a game in 3D would be fun and relitivly easy... if i knew how to skin i would start work on some models for fun.. but  am \"Game Dev Retarded\" as my mental progression in those places is lacking XD i\'ll try to find some books at the library on animals and such though :)
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Post by: Moogie on February 07, 2005, 02:48:07 pm
Hehe, I got bored and did a concept scribble (http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload3/concept.gif) :P
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Post by: DepthBlade on February 07, 2005, 06:29:07 pm
Yuh I am going to have to take a major pass on this one ^^
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Post by: Kiern on February 07, 2005, 10:13:40 pm
Looks boring.  I couldn\'t read through the entire thing.

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Do not advertise and boast about other MMORPGs in these forums.


eh? eh?
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Post by: Moogie on February 07, 2005, 10:27:53 pm
Kiern: Like I explained, talking about free or opensource games here is fine. This game is free. :]
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Post by: Kiern on February 07, 2005, 10:43:17 pm
Strangely incoherent, two seperate statements...but I don\'t understand the difference.
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Post by: Foresteer on February 08, 2005, 05:38:38 am
Plus those who make the rules or enforce the rules dont have to follow them :P

EDIT: (nice scribble there :D )
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Post by: Moogie on February 08, 2005, 05:48:35 am
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Originally posted by Foresteer
Plus those who make the rules or enforce the rules dont have to follow them :P

EDIT: (nice scribble there :D )



Yes we do...

Anyways, I wish some coder would come along and say he\'s interested in this idea, personally I\'m really up for it. :)
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Post by: Foresteer on February 08, 2005, 07:11:28 am
Example the RIAA/other neo-con money owned government people they sure enforce rules.. but never follow them XD of corse in america the people who makes rules never follow them especialy when peoples rights are involed (but i digress).. don\'t know what its like on a global scale :/

A good coder would be awsome :) i\'m looking into coding websites to see if i can learn it also looking at sites that teach 3D modeling.. so maybe i can kick in the clutch after a while :D i just thought how much fun would it be to have like an urban enviroment and then have like bats and cats pideons and stuff :) you could dig through garbage for food and items have to look out for cars and such! not to mention the world would feel different depending on the animal (the world would sure seem big and scary as a mouse)
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Post by: fken on February 08, 2005, 12:36:55 pm
the only game where I was an animal and must grow up trying to stay alive was... aliuen versus predator 2... Yeah I was an alien...

But this mmorpg seems to be a good one...
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Post by: XpYtZ on February 08, 2005, 01:49:08 pm
*coughs in Moogies direction...*
I\'m working real hard on C++ right now so mabey I can help you and your \'perspective\' coder when I am comfortably entrenched. Usually takes me about six months to learn something, but then...C++ is huge so mabey I\'ll need a year. Better then never though eh?
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Post by: Seytra on February 10, 2005, 09:37:31 pm
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Originally posted by Foresteer
(the world would sure seem big and scary as a mouse)

It does. But even more so as a gecko. I wore out, umm, ten? geckos in about half an hour (they get eaten by just about anything). And three mice in another half hour.

Also, actually, this game can be pretty relaxed as blue bird if you don\'t care about reproduction. However, I finally managed to reproduce yay! Five cute little, fluffy birdies. :D I wonder how long they lasted after they left the nest.

As for the Freeness of this game: I only see the minor difference to be that this game\'s free play is actually reasonable, whereas the other game\'s was sub par IIRC. So this may be classified as \"reasonably free\", but it\'s a bit of a stretch, true (but the other person was annoying :P).

And the more global you go, following your own rules becomes less and less important AFAICS, as controlability decreases while public lethargy increases in direct proportion of the percieved distance of effect on the \"person on the street\".
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Post by: ramlambmoo on February 14, 2005, 01:50:49 pm
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*coughs in Moogies direction...*
I\'m working real hard on C++ right now so mabey I can help you and your \'perspective\' coder when I am comfortably entrenched. Usually takes me about six months to learn something, but then...C++ is huge so mabey I\'ll need a year. Better then never though eh?


1 year? mwhahahha lol lol took me like 3 days to learn c++.... oh wait you mean like properly learn it....:P

In 3 days i could input output, file handling, strings, variables, arrays, functions, headers, structures.  But thats because i already knew a programming language -QBasic (ahhh, QBasic, the memories.... QBasic has got to be the most complete programming language ever,- no linking, no headers, you could write a 1 line program :) ).  Seriously the basics of c++ are easy.  Its the stuff like linking and using other peoples graphics modules and stuff like that that\'s hard- it took me 3 days to learn basic c++, but 2 weeks to get openGL to compile properly on my computer.... and ive been trying for 2 months now to get the hideous directX to work.  :(  Probablly would help if i could afford a decent compiler like Visual C++ (no joke intended :P) instead of having to use Dev C++ and freeware like that.