PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Narzil on February 05, 2005, 02:26:09 am
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My family is looking into getting a new computer and I was thinking to check if it would be all right for me to be one or if it is to selected few yadda yadda...
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http://www.planeshift.it/guide/index.html
READ IT.
(oh, and if you want a recomendaton GET A MAC! )
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On a mac now =). Dad works for apple.
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Where do I look? Can\'t find anything on being a server requirement.
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http://www.planeshift.it/guide/index.html
and NO DOUBLE POSTING!
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Section 1.1 of the Manual is \"System Requirements.\"
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Everyone ignored \'server\'.
You can run your own server, but that wouldn\'t do you much good. Planeshift will stay on one for some time still.
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He is asking about SERVER reqs... not SYSTEM reqs...
Do you get it???
SERVER...
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hey Thiesen no need to be an a** about it alright?
its an easy enough mistake especially since Narzil (no offense intended) didnt really clarify what he was asking very well except for in the title(he was saying he was BUYING a new computer its easy to reach the conclusion that he was wondering about system requirements)
(which by the way he kind of is :P )
-Tarach
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Easy enough mistake, I was up late last night. :)
Not quite sure about requirements, but I know they don\'t need any more server sponsors right now. They have a huge list of people volunteering hardware to the project when the time comes that Fragnetics can no longer cope with the load.
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Thank you all. I was begining to think I was being an idiot for not finding server requirements on that page. Also I\'ll see if I can get hardware donations if you need it. If so, what kind of things are you looking for?
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Originally posted by Narzil
Thank you all. I was begining to think I was being an idiot for not finding server requirements on that page. Also I\'ll see if I can get hardware donations if you need it. If so, what kind of things are you looking for?
If you wish to donate anything, donate money/hardware to http://crystal.sourceforge.net/ or one of the other things PS uses. I\'m not sure if fragnetics (http://www.fragnetics.com/) accept donations, but feel free to contact them about it though. They\'re the guys who host the PS server, among other things, and they\'re doing that for free too (thanks you guys).
The PlaneShift project itself does not accept any kind of donations.
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Ok thanks. Thats what I need to know.
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I want to borrow the thread a little bit since Narzil asked about what the specs are for an PS server.
I wonder if it would be possible to run a local version of the server on my own computer (so that I could play around in the game world myself and have GM status on it)
Btw I\'m using WinXP and I am not into dev at all... just want to goof around a little myself...
Sorry if I sounded a little too harsh or whatever you wish to call it... or well... you could just challange me ingame if you like to... :-)
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Sure you can, but it\'s no easy work, especially with what you expect from it and you OS.
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Originally posted by Thiesen
I want to borrow the thread a little bit since Narzil asked about what the specs are for an PS server.
I wonder if it would be possible to run a local version of the server on my own computer (so that I could play around in the game world myself and have GM status on it)
Btw I\'m using WinXP and I am not into dev at all... just want to goof around a little myself...
Sorry if I sounded a little too harsh or whatever you wish to call it... or well... you could just challange me ingame if you like to... :-)
To run a local server for yourself, all you need is in the CVS, and if you already have PS compiled, you should have the art files in your game folder.
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you can donate me a mac if you like ;)
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Are you a big mac person?
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not yet ;)
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Originally posted by Gronomist
To run a local server for yourself, all you need is in the CVS, and if you already have PS compiled, you should have the art files in your game folder.
Oh man... CVS... I know what CVS means (concurrent version system)... and I also know that it is a system that always has the latest version of a program... but that\'s about it... I hope there are any precompiled Win32 binaries of the server???
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Quwaar: Trust me. When you take everything into consideration, Mac is a much better way to go. Sensus (spelling?) at one point had a comparison of 60 viruses and worms and trojans (ect...) to 1000 or 2000 that windows has. Also mac has a nicer user interface:).
P.S. Also has more user friendly instructions for apple products:)
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[sarcasm]Also dont forget with MAC you dont have to worry about selecting from numerous games or software! Mac makes it easy to pick out software by only have 1% of the programs windows does :D I mean why wade through selecting from hundreds of thousands of programs when with mac you only have to pick from a couple hundred?[/sarcasm]
And seriosuly if i wanted to join a cult of fanatics i could do that.. i like to keep my braindead cult groupyism and computer system seperate ;)
Seriously.. being a gamer macintosh is less then worthless to me :/ same with linux (not to mention i am still trying to find linux compatible parts just to run the son of a in graphical mode... and the text mode it\'s like a menstral DOS times a million >_< ) i wish i didn\'t have to use windows.. but also never want to use linux or mac so maybe i should just learn to code my own OS or something :P
(this isn\'t a \"woot windows\" post.. just a \"boo mac\" post n_n; )
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yeah linux is cool.. i mean i learned a lot from it... great process and administration managment... but it\'s no gaming machine... sometimes that\'s a good thing....
what i trying to say is i miss my XP laptop... the one which i played planeshift on.... serves me well for breaking its monitor.....
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Yeah whats good for \"serious\" work often isn\'t good for games :/ i just wish there was an OS that was more secure and safer then windows easy to understand AND had more the 10 peices of software that is useful and fun written for it :) (come on.. there is no such animal as a\"linux gamer\" and even less possible is a \"Mac Gamer\" and if somebody either claims its possible or says they are one.. they are not deserving to talk or be heard on the topic of gaming :P )
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Oh man... CVS... I know what CVS means (concurrent version system)... and I also know that it is a system that always has the latest version of a program... but that\'s about it... I hope there are any precompiled Win32 binaries of the server???
Don\'t be naive. You\'re up for a lot of pain to get a server if you\'re not feeling hackery, especially on your OS.
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Originally posted by lynx_lupo
Don\'t be naive. You\'re up for a lot of pain to get a server if you\'re not feeling hackery, especially on your OS.
Well... I was merely hoping for the Planeshift community to compile the server sources to Win32 compatible binaries... there must be someone out there that just love to wade through megabytes of lovely c++ code... :-)
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... \"Mac Gamer\" and if somebody either claims its possible or says they are one.. they are not deserving to talk or be heard on the topic of gaming :P )
First off, I can call myself an all around gammer. I don\'t have the extensive knoledge of some people, but I have found that most decent games are mad for mac and PC. They may not be designed on the smae disc but they are made. The 1% may be true, but perhaps of only 2-5% of the games out there are any good.
Second, everyone has that right to talk and support that you (in this instance) are wrong and that gamming is expanded beyond windows.
Also, altough not quited, it\'s obvious there isn\'t a huge linux gamin world. In comparison, Linux is fairly new to mac and windows.
Lastly I need to hear you have proof behind your statements. I do. I have a mac Windows and have used Linux before so I can tell you how they operated for me and the selections.
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Ok name one recent good game for MAC ;) i think my argument ends there there are like maybe 20 mac games period.. including tetris and solitare :P (realize some of this is blatantly exagerated for ephasis... but still based on fact)
Its impossible to be a solely MAC gamer and have extinsive play experience and be very knowledgable.. i\'m sorry :/ i don\'t make the news i just report it
Its possible to play games on mac.. but there isn\'t much hardware (is there even any?) to upgrade with.. so mac tends to get left in the gaming dust very fast i will give mac cred for having some of the best \"artistic\" software however.. as in making music and movies (as must of Job\'s cult is made of the hippy \"new age\" artsy fartsy types)
But come on... you can\'t look me in the face and tell me Mac will be a gaming system in its current incarnation without breaking a smirk. It wont happen.. not enough games, not enough hardware, and not enough interest (PS is mac though so there is at least one good game for MAC! :D )
Linux has crazy mad potential! but isn\'t living up to it Linux could be one hell of a gaming OS (and one hell of an OS) if it had more hardware that worked with it :/ (i feel like i\'m making a pilgramage to mecca or something trying to find hardware for my linux box XD its like \"linux hardware\" is just a santa cluase that doesn\'t really exist :P ) I\'ve only had experience in the suck awful text mode of linux due to a lack of hardware.. it looks awsome though! however i simply refuse to use it until i can get a graphic mode to aid my understanding of it XP
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I agree with you on the linux computer. It does have much potential. I would like it to be the main stream OS but with all the windows crap out their, it cant. The gaming portion is a bit of a down fall due to the fact that its code is diffrent enough that some of the good games cccan\'t be played.
And yes, of course planeshift is a great game. Along tose lines, another great game is WoW. The only reason I found PS is because I wanted to find an alternative to having to pay for WoW.
And yes, mac software upgrades are some what limited. But it comes better stock and has less of a need to upgrade itts equipment
\"Its impossible to be a solely MAC gamer and have extinsive play experience and be very knowledgable.. i\'m sorry :/ i don\'t make the news i just report it\"
No one said anything about being soley a mac gamer. I said I was an all around gamer. I also didn\'t call myself knowledgable. At this rate you will fit in perfectly with reporters in the US.
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hahah nice attempt at a flame with the US reporter stuff :) (lying bastards XD) and i said hardware upgrades for mac are non-existent and gaming takes crazy mad hardware upgrades..
To do what a Mac does it doesn\'t need them true... but for anything other then making music or videos or just basic notepad type stuff Mac never leaves the starting line
And last i checked i said ANYONE who claimed to be a soley Mac gamer not NARZIL get your facts straight.. now your the american reporter :P
(i am basicaly flame proof so :D )
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Well lets just call that one good and stop insulting americas poor reporting skills and change the topic slighty.
Do you believe that with macs designing should make it more capable of handling games due to its wonderful Movie and photo and graphic programs?
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Originally posted by Thiesen
Originally posted by lynx_lupo
Don\'t be naive. You\'re up for a lot of pain to get a server if you\'re not feeling hackery, especially on your OS.
Well... I was merely hoping for the Planeshift community to compile the server sources to Win32 compatible binaries... there must be someone out there that just love to wade through megabytes of lovely c++ code... :-)
Well, the developers sorta do.. But if you can\'t compile the server yourself, you need to get the exact version of the MySQL version the server was compiled for, install it, configure it, import the Databases, set it up furthher, get NPCclient running (also compiling and against the database) THEN you can start playing.
It\'s quite easy if you have done it before
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Originally posted by Narzil
Well lets just call that one good and stop insulting americas poor reporting skills and change the topic slighty.
Do you believe that with macs designing should make it more capable of handling games due to its wonderful Movie and photo and graphic programs?
well i am american so i get bludgeoned to death with our crappy news :P anyway...
yes mac does have a natural affinity for graphics.. i am very suprised its not used for games. They dont seem to have many upgrades but pehaps if somebody made some games and went out on a limb it wouldn\'t be such a par/subpar system.
Now you can install linux on your bird feeder or even your spatula if you like.. and i find that awsome.. but as i have stated, the hardware is like a four leaf clover, in that it must be guarded by lechpirchauns as i have never found any good linux/windows compatible hardware XD so i think linux is the gaming wave of the future once it gets more popular and people finaly make hardware for it specificly
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Originally posted by Foresteer
Yeah whats good for \"serious\" work often isn\'t good for games :/ i just wish there was an OS that was more secure and safer then windows easy to understand AND had more the 10 peices of software that is useful and fun written for it :) (come on.. there is no such animal as a\"linux gamer\" and even less possible is a \"Mac Gamer\" and if somebody either claims its possible or says they are one.. they are not deserving to talk or be heard on the topic of gaming :P )
Most(all?) of Blizzard\'s games are mac-compatible now...but that\'s just one company.
Originally posted by Foresteer
Now you can install linux on your bird feeder or even your spatula if you like..
Lol
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Seriosuly linux is compatible with everything i would install it on my cat if i could find a data plug that fit :P
Yeah thats true blizzard does make games now Mac-compatible..
Wheren\'t they having online issues thoughat one point when Macs and Pcs tried to play on the same server or something? i thought i read a news bite about that somewhere in the past (about when WC3 came out)
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Ooh, the image. 8o I don\'t think your cat will be very happy if you try. :D
Hmm.....not sure - if there were issues, they seem to have gotten them worked out for WOW.
There\'s a couple other good older games for the mac, although they aren\'t MMO. I enjoyed EV Nova (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/) for a while - it\'s a space game with good, random storylines with a couple hundred different branches(about 6 or so major storylines that you\'d actually want to play). Also has lots of modding capability, and once you beat it you can install one of their mods to convert it into the predecessor EV games.
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Originally posted by Foresteer
Wheren\'t they having online issues thoughat one point when Macs and Pcs tried to play on the same server or something? i thought i read a news bite about that somewhere in the past (about when WC3 came out)
That is true it also happened with D2. What would happen is on the slower CPU\'s the refresh screen would never refresh if a game you were joining was doing something. Also on D2 their was an issue on low CPUs where you could not exit the game. As you can see, the problem is constant.
Seriosuly linux is compatible with everything i would install it on my cat if i could find a data plug that fit
I see a weekly world news article coming on.
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Originally posted by Foresteer
I\'ve only had experience in the suck awful text mode of linux due to a lack of hardware.. it looks awsome though! however i simply refuse to use it until i can get a graphic mode to aid my understanding of it XP
I\'ve got an old Redhat (Linux) Disk which I use to install on computers people give me... I\'ve never had an issue with hardware detection in old 400 Mhz or less boxes... perhaps you could try installing on an old junker...
One point of note... if you can\'t handle text mode... the GUI isn\'t gonna help much