PlaneShift
Gameplay => Wish list => PvP,PK and Thieving => Topic started by: WizardsRule on February 06, 2005, 05:35:49 am
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I would love t if there was in game wars every few monthes. What I mean by this is a dark army that tries to kill all in their path. Led by their leader, the only way to stop them would be to kill their leader and the remaining dark fighters.
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YEAH that would be SO cool! :o
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Well once the game has some more added I believe some guilds will try to do this themselves, though I dont think they intend to lose. I know a few crazy (evil crazy, not weird crazy like me ;) ) leaders that would only be to happy to destroy every thing in their path, as well as a few that would like to destroy anything dark and evil in their\'s.
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Yeah it would be kool if ones a month or ones every 2 months they hade a FULL OUT GUILD WARS. To see who will rule planeshift for the 2 months.
And who ever rules the world can do more stuff then other people in the game. And the guild leader is THE KING of planeshift for the 2 months.
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why every two months? wouldn\'t it just happen whenever some guild felt like taking over?
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heh, tru N1m...only problem is there are numerous Corruptors in the Cabal...and seeing as we are always going to win we can\'t all be the King of planeshift
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i like the idea but i reckon what would be cool is like build a nother colassium but not as somplecated as the one in the game just a basic arena where huge competions can be held for the best fighter,cook,mager, ranger and so on and if you come first you win a prize :) and also in this arena you could hold massive guild wars or just wars with random players like a soccer team but anyone can join any team (light or dark) and just have some fun trying to win the battle :D
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Originally posted by NIm
why every two months? wouldn\'t it just happen whenever some guild felt like taking over?
Yeah that would be good as well. But to have somthing like that would be gay if you could just do it when ever you wanted to. So with things like this you can only have it like a month or 2 apart.
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May I ask what you meant by
Originally posted by Soulless_Body
FULL OUT GUILD WARS
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Originally posted by Soulless_Body
Yeah it would be kool if ones a month or ones every 2 months they hade a FULL OUT GUILD WARS. To see who will rule planeshift for the 2 months.
And who ever rules the world can do more stuff then other people in the game. And the guild leader is THE KING of planeshift for the 2 months.
Hmm, sounds like giving the 1773 Guilds who massrecruit a huge advantage X(
Well Drak i believe he meant each Guild against each other (The most stupid idea i heard, for the whole time i am here, which is nearly 4 months)
But otherwise a war would bring much to feast on.
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Originally posted by Merdarion
Hmm, sounds like giving the 1773 Guilds who massrecruit a huge advantage X(
You mean 1337 :)
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How ever they are called.
To anyone who Quotes me: either close my tags or delete them.
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Originally posted by Soulless_Body
FULL OUT GUILD WARS
Now why would all guilds by fighting each other? I was only mentioning people and guilds that would fight, many guilds that may be good or evil might not be in the business of fighting but in money or knowledge. And there may be guilds that are neutral and work with both sides. No doubt there will be guild wars but surely not all guilds will be participating.
Originally posted by Frarda
You mean 1337 :)
Well he could have meant the number. After all there does seem to be that many guilds that want to recruit anyone and everyone ;)
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possible in the future, two guilds will be able to organise a war, this can also be monitored and judged by GM\'s so 1337 guilds who mass recruit won\'t have an advantage, they may have 100 members against a 15 member guild, but if its organised they can only use 15 of their members, fair\'s fair. unless they want thetouch of death ;)
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To mikedean: Let\'s not do that. Why take the possibility of having the advantage by quantity? This will make a \"no rules\" guild war (blood, sweat, broken axes) a happy tournament set-up (roses, honour, \"theatr\" )...
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Originally posted by Draklar
May I ask what you meant by
Originally posted by Soulless_Body
FULL OUT GUILD WARS
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It means what it says.
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Originally posted by Soulless_Body
FULL OUT GUILD WARS
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Now why would all guilds by fighting each other? I was only mentioning people and guilds that would fight, many guilds that may be good or evil might not be in the business of fighting but in money or knowledge. And there may be guilds that are neutral and work with both sides. No doubt there will be guild wars but surely not all guilds will be participating.
Then who ever dose not want to be in this war they don\'t have to.
And when i said all that i did not mean it HAD to be like that just somthing like that. Man people really do like to flame here?
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Originally posted by Soulless_Body
And when i said all that i did not mean it HAD to be like that just somthing like that. Man people really do like to flame here?
You said FULL OUT GUILD WARS, and let us gess what you mean,
You didnt either say that it was THAT.
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Man just leave it. It\'s not that big a deal?
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This really isn\'t a unique idea. It\'s been discussed for years and there\'s a billion threads on it etc.
And yeah, The Cabal would always win ^^ So there\'s no point. If guilds want wars then they\'ll have them. No need to arrange certain times when you can. And we already know that there\'ll be game events like invasions etc.
And FULL OUT WARS does generally mean \"all vs all\"
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i do not think guild wars or any kind of conflict should be forced onto players. If wars between guilds occur they should be strictly for rp reasons.
I would go as far as forbidding any wars for fun... go play call of duty for that....
I am talking about when the game gets more stable and developed. Guild wars are kind of a good thing now...as method of testing game mechanics. I believe someone has already done that.
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Good point Kaseijin.
Else Hydlaa would be stucked in flowing mass of wars.
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This topic has seemed to have gotten WAY off track since I started it.
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Let me ask you this? Is life fare? If some one want to fight you can you just stop them?
So why should the game NOT forced onto players?
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Originally posted by Soulless_Body
Let me ask you this? Is life fare? If some one want to fight you can you just stop them?
So why should the game NOT forced onto players?
Because the makers of this game do not want to make people who do not want to fight, fight. That is why one has to challenge someone before they can attack them.
This allows one who wants to live a peacefull RP life not have to deal with being attacked everywhere they go. Can you imagine what would happen if one didn\'t have to challenge to attack, with all the people challenging everyone and everything in sight?
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Then they could make gurds. So if someone attks someone ells in the city then the guards will attk them. And also if you want you can put money on that persons head.
And that would be KOOL. Full out attks every where man that would be good.
Thats the prob every one wanst things easy all the time. No one wants to play something TRULLY HARD.
Just ones i would like to play a game that is trully like real life and HARD. Even if people attked me every where. Man if the game was like that then if you played it for a long time and got good at it then MAN thenyou would be trully skilled.
What do you think it\'s like in real life. People attking people every where.
I know why it\'s becouse every one plays games like this cause they hate there life and play games like this to ecape there lives. And play something easy and NOT hard.
Thats why i don\'t play RPG that much cause there all easy.
Pls don\'t flame me for what i say. Like every one ells dose! (It\'s me and there\'s nothing you can do about it)
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you are right....that is how real life is... just now i when i went out to buy some stuff... i saw a guy beat a child with an axe while screaming \"die you n00b\"...
you see if anyone can attack anyone any time NOW that would encourage players who WHO WANT TO ESCAPE their lives... they would just log on when they fail an exam or get dumped or whatever ..then they would kill a few weak characters feel better and log off....
i am trying really hard not to flame you... but the bottom line is this... YOU DON\'T GET WHAT PLANESHIFT IS ALL ABOUT.
now please go play COD or DIablo.... or Counterstrike or whatever quick fix game you like
by the way it\'s not cool to write cool as KOOL... KOOL is a brand of cigarettes
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uhhh... getting of topic a bit, there is a PVP sub-section in the wishlist forums where these things are discused.
But events like what WizardRule suggested will probably and should be used and implemented once things settle down. A nice drought, plague, darkness falling upon the land, as well a few \'good\' events like festivals and a good crop season, are some other possible events that might liven up things.
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yeah i am for events like cranivals... draught or maybe even a massive goble attack...or a tournament....
but saying \'from tommorrow every guild is at war\' is lame...
if two guilds fight because a person from guild A owns guild B money(not 10 trias but let\'s say 10,000)... and then friendly guilds of guild A and guild B join in, turning it into a massive guild war...now that would be interesting because it\'s roleplaying...ok i am off topic again... i am sorry ....i won\'t post in this thread anymore
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Quote from Soulless_Body Just ones i would like to play a game that is trully like real life and HARD. Even if people attked me every where. Man if the game was like that then if you played it for a long time and got good at it then MAN thenyou would be trully skilled.
Maybe it\'s just me but I can\'t see how that can be funny in the long run. Everybody attacks everybody. You win you run up to your next enemy. You lose you come back from DR and attack somebody again.
Like it\'s been stated many times, this is not Diablo. There are games that focus on hack n\' slash while others prefere to lift up the roleplaying aspect, like PlaneShift.
This idea is not bad, which is probably why 100 threads have been made about this already. Instead of trying to making new ones all the time, try developing the old ones.
Depthblade started a duelling league some time ago and I don\'t know if they plan to organise guild wars, but if they haven\'t thought about it then maybe you bring up the idea to them...
Also about the balancing in guild wars. If it\'s a guild war then I believe the whole guild should be allowed to participate. Guilds that mass recruit obviously rely on quantity instead of quality. I don\'t see why they should get the disadvantage of not using all of their men...
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alliance vs alliance would be cool. srry if some1 already suggested this is seen the dozen posts of people quoting eachother and just decided to go to the bottom and post what i think
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Alliance is a bond between guilds so you could mean that I guess, but think you mean guild vs guild
Anyhow as the attacking of characters go there are several ways to go with this and even several issues that stand apart from eachother first there s the one person VS the other person, then there is the guild vs other guilds, and ofcourse roleplaying with NPCs.
I have seen planeshift and I don\'t mind that you gotta challenge someone to being able to fight someone, but seeing you don\'t gain anything from killing anyone I don\'t see what the big problem is with allowing it a little further then JUST being able to attack someone when they agree.
But how to make things so it doesn\'t turn into a newbslash game? Well first of I don\'t see it happen that often already I mean you don\'t get anything and they don\'t really die they respawn in the DeathRealm so there isn\'t that much joy to get out of that. Plus this isn\'t one of those buttonbashgames so people don\'t get much enjoyment through that way either.
Anyhow if you do implement playerfighting with more liberty to PS I think it\'s realistic to admit the game should limit it more then just the above. Perhaps there should be areas made where you can fight without having to challenge. You could make it a place where you have challenges between guilds like king of the hill or whatever tournaments you can come up with or make it so there is treasure there but it\'s not spawned that often so there are players fighting over the treasures there.
An other way might be to have people chose an alignment and have people of oposite aligments being able to fight.
You could also limit fighting to people who have about the same amount number of points trained in the fighting skillls and stats.
Plenty of ideas there I think and haven\'t even thought about how you could just make it very hard for a guildwar but not impossible without the others consent
To conclude I just want to say I don\'t want fighting on every streetcorner. I don\'t want newbs being slaughtered by the deathsquads near the spawningpoint , but I also strongly believe that having no option AT ALL to have fights without an others consent is tottally unrealistic.
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Originally posted by Kwip
A nice drought, plague, darkness falling upon the land,
ummm...I don\'t think there can be a darkness falling on the land...read the history section on the PS homepage and you\'ll see what I mean
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So the chrystal doesn\'t send out light anymore. WHy couldn\'t that happen if EVIL is involved? That would really give people something to be scared about, but agree it can\'t be just a roving bandleader who makes that happen ;)
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you are right....that is how real life is... just now i when i went out to buy some stuff... i saw a guy beat a child with an axe while screaming \"die you n00b\"...
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You know thats not what i ment!
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by the way it\'s not cool to write cool as KOOL... KOOL is a brand of cigarettes
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Who said i was trying to be kool? Thats just the way i write it. Just like when i write school as skool. And pls don\'t write about how i write! It\'s so lame when people do that.
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now please go play COD or DIablo.... or Counterstrike or whatever quick fix game you like
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I don\'t like any of them games. I mainly like warcraft starcraft. And the only shooter games i like are the ones where you get a base and tank stuff like that. and last a long time. PlaneShift is the 1st RPG game i ever played. And i only like playing it because it looks like it will turn out to be a pritty good game. So even if i say bad things about the game i still like it VERY much.
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i am breaking my promise...and posting here
just to say that i might have too hard on Sawless bodee
for the rest of the message go here (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=14502&boardid=21&styleid=3&sid=359b66eb588c0ec278ab2f54383d5291&page=1#1) since it does not belong on this forum
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Originally posted by Soulless_Body
you are right....that is how real life is... just now i when i went out to buy some stuff... i saw a guy beat a child with an axe while screaming \"die you n00b\"...
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You know thats not what i ment!
But that is what would happen,
Back on Topic:
Anyways, I would be for some Huge events,
Invasions of the stone labyrinth, carnivals, diseases, a government coup, maybe even an exodus into a new realm.
There are many things possible.
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Originally posted by Kwip
Well once the game has some more added I believe some guilds will try to do this themselves, though I dont think they intend to lose. I know a few crazy (evil crazy, not weird crazy like me ;) ) leaders that would only be to happy to destroy every thing in their path, as well as a few that would like to destroy anything dark and evil in their\'s.
And I know just a organisation that will oppose those...we of The Holy Searing...:D
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There could be a time of when guild wars could occur.