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Gameplay => Newbie Help (Start Here) => Topic started by: Stray Cat on February 07, 2005, 06:09:16 pm
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Hello !
Does the ore smelting furnace work or it is there for \'cosmetic\' purpose ?
I asked the NPCs in the town and I got the response that not everybody is supposed to use it (he said because of local politics), but no directions to use.
I tried to feed it with ore and tried every buttons. Is it intended to produce metal bars or directly weapons ?
I think I need something like a recipe (perhaps in the \"mind\" slot ?).
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Originally posted by Stray Cat
Hello !
Does the ore smelting furnace work or it is there for \'cosmetic\' purpose ?
I asked the NPCs in the town and I got the response that not everybody is supposed to use it (he said because of local politics), but no directions to use.
I tried to feed it with ore and tried every buttons. Is it intended to produce metal bars or directly weapons ?
I think I need something like a recipe (perhaps in the \"mind\" slot ?).
Or maybe some points in backsmith are required for use them. Or maybe we need to put some coal in it, but find coal is another busines. :D
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They are currently in testing. By the end of the week you should be able to smelt any ore into blocks. Which will then be used in the creation of items. By then npc merchants should sell the required equipmnet
and have some info on it
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Originally posted by Aldaron
Or maybe some points in backsmith are required for use them. Or maybe we need to put some coal in it, but find coal is another busines. :D
Ok, thanks, I know where coal and iron can be found :)
I think this will boost RP with specialized jobs :
- miners (spoiler ? : some races have an advantage)
- courier : bringing 10 ore iron+10 ore coal form the mine to the smelter
- smelter : as everyone (?) begins with blacksmith skill at 0, it will take a long time (and wasting a lot of ore) to train and practice
- weaponsmith and armorsmith (there are several skills)
... and perhaps thieves will try to pick some metal while cooling
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Originally posted by Stray Cat
Does the ore smelting furnace work or it is there for \'cosmetic\' purpose ?
I asked the NPCs in the town and I got the response that not everybody is supposed to use it (he said because of local politics), but no directions to use.
I tried to feed it with ore and tried every buttons. Is it intended to produce metal bars or directly weapons ?
I\'m running around ojaveda with some ores in my inventory :D
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Are you having it like this?
Copper ore + Tin Ore = Bronze
Iron Ore = Iron
Iron Ore + Coal = Steel
Something like that? By the way it HASE to be like that.
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Originally posted by Soulless_Body
Are you having it like this?
Copper ore + Tin Ore = Bronze
Iron Ore = Iron
Iron Ore + Coal = Steel
Something like that? By the way it HASE to be like that.
Ah, a player of a particular Java game that starts with \'R\'?
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But are the smelting and crafting implemented or not?
I\'m ear that a book is needed for the furnace, but still not find a way to get it.
Salu2.
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Originally posted by acraig
Originally posted by Soulless_Body
Are you having it like this?
Copper ore + Tin Ore = Bronze
Iron Ore = Iron
Iron Ore + Coal = Steel
Something like that? By the way it HASE to be like that.
Ah, a player of a particular Java game that starts with \'R\'?
Lol. Once a spoonscaper... It seems impossible to escape it\'s influence...
Aaaannnyyywaaaay... Thanks for the info. I was wondering about this myself.
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Well even if he did play \"The Scape\" those combinations are actualy true to nature and even other major games use those if they have combinations of metals being mixed.
But I can\'t say anythign against that Java game... I played it back when it was first started O_O
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actualy the only one that is \"real\" is copper + tin and iron... steel is made by superheating and oxygenating iron... not by adding coal.. so it would need a super hot furnace
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If you ignore the heatsource (coal or charcoal) only iron ore to iron is correct. For bronze you dont use the ores, but the metals as pure as you can get them. It may be possible to make bronze direct from the ores, but the bronze would be polluted with side products from the ores.
Steel is made by oxygenating the carbon in the iron.
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Hmmm if the smelters dont work can i get my 3 gold back plz ??
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Originally posted by Scots Saseg
Hmmm if the smelters dont work can i get my 3 gold back plz ??
Yeah, and my 10000 chuncks of goldore ;) cause I just kept chucking em in.
No seriously I lost a chunk of goldore as well trying, but that\'s what rpg is about: first you try if something works, and then you ask around. (or the other way around if you are smart (I just like the hard way from time to time))
3 Goldore has taken you what?... about 10 minutes of playing time?
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Originally posted by Foresteer
actualy the only one that is \"real\" is copper + tin and iron... steel is made by superheating and oxygenating iron... not by adding coal.. so it would need a super hot furnace
Actually, steel is iron containing between (I think) about 0.1% and 2.0% carbon, which comes from coal. (Really, one should use coke, which is coal with the impurities cooked out. Interestingly, \"mild steel\" is nearly-pure iron and \"wrought iron\" is really steel...) Iron smelting also uses limestone as a flux to draw out the impurities from the iron ore, and when the carbon content exceeds 2% you have cast iron, which any smith will tell you is impossible to forge.
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Originally posted by acraig
Originally posted by Soulless_Body
Are you having it like this?
Copper ore + Tin Ore = Bronze
Iron Ore = Iron
Iron Ore + Coal = Steel
Something like that? By the way it HASE to be like that.
Ah, a player of a particular Java game that starts with \'R\'?
Thats just how it\'s made but is it not? And i only played runescape ones in my life and never again. So i would not know what your talking about?
[/QUOTE]If you ignore the heatsource (coal or charcoal) only iron ore to iron is correct. For bronze you dont use the ores, but the metals as pure as you can get them. It may be possible to make bronze direct from the ores, but the bronze would be polluted with side products from the ores.
Steel is made by oxygenating the carbon in the iron.
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The bronze is right? and the iron. And for the steel well who cares if i\'m wrong. I\'m just trying to give what i think it could be like. See how i said (could) and not (should). Now pls stop with your flaming.
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I don\'t see anyone flaming you here, Soulless. If you\'re going to post ideas here you\'ll have to be mature and accept that people will have different opinions.
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hmm ya\'ll may be right.. though i have dabbled in it i\'m no metalurgist :/ (gonna study it once my coding skill is good though :D )
Yes i forgot about steel and carbon there needs to be a \"indgrediant slider\" where you pick how much of each property to put int \"IE. doesn\'t more carbon after a point make steel brittle?\" so that way you could make your weapons properties different from another smiths.. or if you know nothing on smithing totaly screw uo your weapons? (as i real life it takes time to learn the right mixtures and you will fail miserably a few {many XD} times)
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actually later on in the \"timeline\" a more popular(and over all better) method of making steel was to increase airflow across the metal (thus oxygenating the carbon molecules quicker) this was one of the \"technological miracles\" that led to the massive industrial boom in the 1900\'s (as well as what made carnegie such a rich man)
sorry had to pull out the history :P
regards
-Tarach
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Seeing as this is a thread on smelting, I was wondering if smelting has been disabled from the game at the moment?
Thanks in advance
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smelting is not available at all to us right now...
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I will be getting into this again pretty soon. Hopefully to go from iron to shield is not that far away. I\'m trying my best but I hope it will be worth it. The crafting system will be pretty cool I think.
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i think this is a pretty old thread...
I can see the furnace and can drop the ores but i cannot use it : \"you have nothing in mind\" ... but I trained blacksmith skill... and I have 12 gold ores...
So how could we use it ?
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you need a blacksmithing book. im currently trying to find it. NOT AVAILABLE IN STORES NEAR YOU!!!!
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Harnquist, veja, jayose, durok, grotemeley\'s couple, the shop keepers\' couple (sorry I forget their name now...) havent the book.
Please report here where do you find or not find it... I think we should be able to find it together if it exists
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Originally posted by fken
Harnquist, veja, jayose, durok, grotemeley\'s couple, the shop keepers\' couple (sorry I forget their name now...) havent the book.
Please report here where do you find or not find it... I think we should be able to find it together if it exists
Please, don\'t post it if you find it. This is like a big quest for a very hard to find object, don\'t ruin the fun of it by posting the answer.
Xirius
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Im not really ok with you. It\'s more annoying than a quest. We even dunno if this book really exist! and moreover the npc arent able to help you... it\'s really not reallistic:
Hey blacksmith where can I find blacksmith book
-> I cant understand you.
Heya. Tell me about smelting.
-> I know nothing about that.
-> lier!
-> I cant understand you
Jayose now:
hello
hello. Dont touch my books if you dont clean your hands before
(i wont give you the anwer I gave... it was about falka and the fact he would have my fist in the middle of his face if he keep on laugh at me... off course he didnt understood)
Tell me about book
-> be more precise
Tell me about blacksmithing book
-> You are saying non sense...
oh lord I hate the quest
-> I dont understand
I never though you would understand a word man you are so stupid sometimes...
-> I must have some dust in my ears...
i think so
In the reality people would advice you. If there are advices its funny if not its annoying, really amazingly boring... So I think finding this book is not a nice quest... and i think that some people has been adviced and try to keep the information for themselves... just the time to earn money buy selling weapons...
EDIT: in fact there is no book availlable for now...
[18:31:42] fken: yes it exists but its not public yet
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Wow... okay, let\'s put some majorly skewed records straight.
There is no \"super duper big massive quest\" to find this book. It\'s simply a requirement for smithing. The book is called \"Working With Stock\" and you equip it to your Mind slot in your inventory when smelting Ores into blocks using a furnace.
Okay? Good. It\'s not public yet, so only GMs should have a copy of it.
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Someone showed me an idgot or bar of steel she made as a tester. It was worth 40 tria. It you get one bar from one thing of ore, then it multiplies your profit by ten.
You can\'t carry as much iron ore as you can tefu teeth.
You can kill tefu as fast as you can mine iron.
It takes time to walk all the way to oja.
But, if you\'re not a fighter...