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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Erik on February 12, 2005, 01:55:19 am

Title: Klyros wips
Post by: Erik on February 12, 2005, 01:55:19 am
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip01.gif)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip02.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip03.gif)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip04.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip05.gif)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip06.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip07.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip08.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip09.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip10.jpg)
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Post by: Erik on February 12, 2005, 01:57:16 am
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip11.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip12.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip13.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip14.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip15.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip16.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip17.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip18.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip19.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip20.jpg)
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Post by: Erik on February 12, 2005, 01:58:42 am
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip21.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip22.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip23.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip24.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip25.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip26.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip27.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip28.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip29.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip30.jpg)
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Post by: Keyaz on February 12, 2005, 01:58:58 am
fantastic work :D and by the looks of it, it could be quite simple to produce a female from this :tup:
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Post by: Erik on February 12, 2005, 01:59:22 am
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip31.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip32.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip33.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip34.jpg)
(http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip35.jpg)
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Post by: Seytra on February 12, 2005, 02:17:16 am
Forgive my 1337, but...
OMG! I love him! He\'s so... uh, I can\'t describe it. So much detail, and he looks so much like I envisaged him... So serious, yet proud, but not superstitious. Delicate yet powerful, elegant yet, I daresay, manly.

One image (I don\'t know exactly which, as they\'re all down ATM) looks odd, however: it seems as he has muscles without skin over them, like on these anatomical drawings. That is quite strange. ;)

Anyway: This is very very well done! I wonder what the female version will be like! Several :tup:
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Post by: JellyWerker on February 12, 2005, 03:34:50 am
Very nice, are you a new dev team member? The detail is awesome!, me likee :D
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Post by: Icefalcon on February 12, 2005, 03:45:50 am
Ah, *drools over the pics*

Why.... am I a Ylian.

... I am cursed with an everlasting beard. It won\'t go away.  :(
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Post by: Nairan on February 12, 2005, 02:38:31 pm
wow nice pic documentation for making a real cool looking race

really great work!
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Post by: seperot on February 12, 2005, 02:51:46 pm
Seperot now fully regrets not getting the IT radio link for erik fast enough so he could take up his offer of a Seperot modle*

yes i still remember that causal bribe you made :P

nick work on the Klyros tis almost a shame that when i met moogie that i become forever bound to my enki\'ness :P
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Post by: WizardsRule on February 12, 2005, 02:53:50 pm
great job, but did you get help from the mod site?
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Post by: Xordan on February 12, 2005, 03:06:04 pm
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Originally posted by WizardsRule
great job, but did you get help from the mod site?


Erik is a PS dev... and has been for a while ;) So no he didn\'t.
Title: this is probly silly...
Post by: nukemeshi on February 12, 2005, 03:28:40 pm
i know this is silly... but if you have room, and one person of you thinks he not contributing and is allways left out..... go ahaead and help me learn to program!I WANT TO LEARN!!! i REALLY, REALLY want to be an apprentice dev!!! please responday cay vue play
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Post by: ArcaneFalcon on February 12, 2005, 08:41:05 pm
nukemeshi: Yes, quite silly.  Read the guide to contribution sticky in the fan art forums and then PM me if you need help.

Erik: Friggin\' fabulous.  I\'ve already told you this, but I love the arms.  Now I have to think of a name for my Klyros alt. :D

:emerald:
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Post by: Androgos on February 12, 2005, 09:27:40 pm
As I\'ve told you like 7 times already, it rocks and I want you to do Xacha next :P
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Post by: nukemeshi on February 12, 2005, 10:27:34 pm
I FORGOT... THIS  IS FRIGGIN A W E S O M E !!!! Keep up the good work!!!!
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Post by: Icefalcon on February 13, 2005, 01:08:33 am
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Originally posted by Androgos
As I\'ve told you like 7 times already, it rocks and I want you to do Xacha next :P

Yes, so do I. If the Xacha will be as good as the Klyros...

Er, I\'ll be happy. 8)
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Post by: Ecolem on February 13, 2005, 02:42:14 am
Nice work indeed, i guess the quadruple posting was worth it :D

Also looks like it took you some time to do it, how long did it take you?
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Post by: confused on February 13, 2005, 06:03:18 am
WOW!

Amazing model! :)

It has been worth waiting for the Klyros model before created my character, just a pitty I can\'t start developing my character seeing that there is no Linux client yet! :(
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Post by: Seytra on February 13, 2005, 07:46:05 pm
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Originally posted by Mondo
Nice work indeed, i guess the quadruple posting was worth it :D

Yes, I refrained from flaming that due to the special circumstances. :)

Another question:
There are quite a few good skins in these pics. Will these be going into the selection or were they merely choces from which the final one was picked? It would be a shame to dump them IMO.
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Post by: JanetReno on February 13, 2005, 10:27:34 pm
haha i was looking atthe 6th picture down and i was like

\"wow that must be the male model\"
Title: Looks Utterly Awesome!
Post by: Zeraph on February 13, 2005, 10:36:41 pm
One thing I am wondering is, what is the polycount on the Klyros? From this I say it would be upwards of 2k to 3k or so...

I was just wondering, after we have all playable      s, are we going to have some of the older ones re-done with more detail? because compared to this, the other      s could definitely be improved as far as their geometry is concerned. :D
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Post by: Erik on February 14, 2005, 09:28:54 am
*Demarthl
Thx, we actually could use it as a template for the female, but it still requires a different mesh and texture

*Seytra
I wasn\'t really sure about how the textures should look like, so i tried some things and the exposed muscles didn\'t work out.

*JellyWerker
I\'ve been a dev WTB for about a year now.

*seperot
Im still bribable ;)

*WizardsRule
nope

*Androgos
Like I said to Sep, im open to bribary ;)

*Mondo
I don\'t really know exact number, but I started in november and finished it Januari. But school and work got really hectic at the end of last year. I guess the total amount of time i spend on it would be a few days, maybe a week.

*confused
Bill is your friend too, don\'t resist...embrace ;)

*Seytra
Just tryouts to get to the final result. There are not really multiple skins, it\'s the same skin with some little variations.

*Zeraph
Like I told you on irc already, it consists of about 1800 /1900 poly\'s.
And maybe, you\'ll never know. But Talad is much more into the idea of adding stuff instead of replace old stuff...
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Post by: Ecolem on February 14, 2005, 11:42:47 am
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Originally posted by Erik
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*Mondo
I don\'t really know exact number, but I started in november and finished it Januari. But school  and work got really hectic at the end of last year. I guess the total amount of time i spend on it would be a few days, maybe a week.
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ouch, that sounds like alot of hard work all at once but i bolded School because i thoughy that only 18+ can join the Dev team ?(
(unless you are 18+...just asking)
ps. if you are 18+ and still in school that might meen your in year 12(VCE) and isnit that hard enough to cope with ?(
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Post by: confused on February 14, 2005, 07:26:27 pm
Erik, only the male model exists at the moment. So when do you think the female model will be making an appearance?

As for Bill, I can\'t wait for the day I can slap a cream pie into his face for simple revengefull pleasure.

Downloaded the Loki-installer, now busy with the updater. Soon I be in game. To mess around with the male Klyros until the world wipe. Hopefully the female model will be available before the world wipe.
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Post by: Erik on February 14, 2005, 11:22:17 pm
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Originally posted by Mondo
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Originally posted by Erik
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*Mondo
I don\'t really know exact number, but I started in november and finished it Januari. But school  and work got really hectic at the end of last year. I guess the total amount of time i spend on it would be a few days, maybe a week.
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ouch, that sounds like alot of hard work all at once but i bolded School because i thoughy that only 18+ can join the Dev team ?(
(unless you are 18+...just asking)
ps. if you are 18+ and still in school that might meen your in year 12(VCE) and isnit that hard enough to cope with ?(


ROFL, I don\'t know how it is in your country, but over here it\'s quite common that ppl who are older then 18 still go to school. Im 22 btw and I have about 6 months of school left.

*confused
I have no idea when the female will be in game, but I\'m not working on it atm.
p.s. Bill can be your friend too, or even better...your god, worship him...
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Post by: faldrok on February 15, 2005, 01:49:26 am
Well, Erik: I think he assumed that you are still in High School, but you are in University/College, right? Maybe a Technical/Trade school? Or do you guys just go to High School for a really long time?

Anyways, I hate your work and I hate you. >.>

Err, what I mean is...nice job. I still don\'t like you, though. :P We still gonna hit up the Pool Hall next next New Year\'s Eve? It\'s still a flawless plan. ;)
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Post by: Sus'vaine on February 19, 2005, 12:16:35 am
I erally, REALLY like like this, EXCEPT one horribly wrong thing. You need to make the face a lizard face, not a human face.
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Post by: Incenjucar on February 19, 2005, 03:33:33 am
I just love the fact that, aside from the more human face and other minor details, the klyros looks like a character I designed called Gerard \"Drakis\" Dragonsblood, about ten years ago (when I was 13), three years before I even went online.  Right down to the general racial personality and the larger plates over the scales.

It\'ll be interesting to see how many of my old characters I can drag back to life when all the models are released... if they have an obsidian kran, for instance...
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Post by: Seytra on February 21, 2005, 03:06:45 am
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Originally posted by Incenjucar
Right down to the (...) larger plates over the scales.

I\'m actually thinking that these can\'t be plates, because if they were, the arms would be rather inflexible, which wouldn\'t be good for swimming. In fact, I wonder about why these are there at all (apart from the fact that they look somewhat \"sewed-on\" ;) ).

As for the face: The Enki face isn\'t that different compared to all others. The real difference is the skin, which is much more different, naturally, than is the Klyros\'. I think it\'s more streamlined than a lizard face will be, but maybe I just can\'t imagine it properly. On a side note: I think most (if not all) models faces look somewhat grumpy when looked at face-on. :)
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Post by: Incenjucar on February 21, 2005, 05:00:09 am
Plates as in \'sheets that cover\', more or less.

While I can\'t neccissarily say why THEY used them, I can explain my own usage:  While smaller scales are very useful at the joints and regions of muscle movement, large plates are going to be better at defense, and won\'t hinder you if place on the few areas of the body that have little movement (essentially, the parts of the limbs where you generally have very little between skin and bone, meaning that there\'s not much muscle bulge).

The design tends to stem from various sorts of more modern style leather armor (seen in sci fi and such), though you can also see the like in some clothing styles I\'ve seen, usually for bikers and such.

If nothing else, picture, if you will, the difference between a snake\'s underbelly and the rest of its surfaces.
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Post by: Seytra on February 22, 2005, 05:12:38 am
Alright, I see what you mean. However, it doesn\'t seem to be the case in PS, since the places are very odd IMO. I\'d expect things like that in the nonmoving regions, like the breast and back, but not on the arms and throat, which are required to be flexible.
The only thing I can think of is that these aren\'t plates, but in fact are skin. However, if it is, it isn\'t necessarily serving a purpose, so maybe there will be skins with other properties, like the one having the red spots (http://www.pilsje.net/erik/PS/klyros/wip27.jpg) (I like that one very much, except for the exposed muscles ;) ). Maybe that could be used on the arms instead?
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Post by: Incenjucar on February 22, 2005, 06:41:43 am
True.  They seem to have it fairly opposite my own designs.

Clearly, they should have consulted me first.

...Actually, considering the many classical fantasy races, they probably would have made great use out of my own slightly more original, but still easy-enough-to-empathize-with races...

...But they wouldn\'t be able to pay me for it anyways, so in the book it stays, muhahahaha...

....

Ahem.

Somewhat related.. I really do hope they more strongly define the klyros..., both in appearance and society.  They\'re fun to roleplay, but I\'d hate to be wrong in what I say.