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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Kaseijin on February 17, 2005, 01:00:14 am
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the point of 1337 speak....
i mean...it\'s just pointless. impractical to write or read, aesthetically ugly.
and don\'t tell me it\'s computer speak...or something real computer ethusiasts use. Cause pretty much every person i know who is computer ehtusisast or programer are grammar nazis. They are very careful how they express themselves, and always try to say things as clearly as possible, proffesional deformation maybe.
i mean i understand the litle things like \'l8r\' or \'c ya\'...in the age of irc...it was used for convnience...
i just don\'t get it.... i am sorry if i offended anyone, but when someone types in 1337 it\'s like they are talking to me with they mouth full and their back turned to me....i find it offensive. If you want to say/write someting.... just write it as plainly as possible.
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Well first off all the e\'s don\'t support your argument.
Secondly, I don\'t care.
Finally, anyone who plays planeshift shouldn\'t be speaking 1337.
Edit: spelling
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errr there is a vast difference between putting extra e\'s to show desparation... and putting numbers and backslashes instead of letters to show, something.
It doesn\'t matter...i just need to get that out of my system
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i suggest covering yourself in gasoline then running though a burning forest before having a swim in a pool of lava :)
that or wrap yourself in bacon and go into a feral dog compound to do the can can
hardly anyone here types true 1337 speak as there main language. so your in the wrong place to gripe
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i\'ll take your suggestions under serious consideration. In the event i choose to perform one of the two stated sequences of action, i will let you know how it worked out. If my resulting physical condition allows me so.
in any case thanks for the input.
p.s....in time of my writin you had 1337 posts...hah the irony
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Registration Date: July 2003
Location: standing outside in the rain in a tuxido...alone...
Posts: 1337
Deleted: 46
sep pwns
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My two cents:
I always thought that 1337 speak was a wanabe computer geeks (haxxorz) way of trying to fraud hexidecimal encoding.
\"Hey! The cool real hacker dude is using 0-9 and A-F to describe his actions! I can be just like him! I\'m so 1337!\"
Then again, althought I do prefer to use good grammer (as best as possible seeing as English isn\'t my first language), I do tend to make comments such as \"teh 1337\"... Just to show that something is cool and worth noticing.
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your all wrong.. guess ya\'ll missed out on that era od computing.
Anyway \"l33t\" (yeah its l33t you \"n00b0rz\"not 1337) was made up ina time when most of the real HACKERS (not h4x0rz) where still in thier teenage years and needed a way to use the evil chat rooms :O (parents thought and still are in FUD about most computer things) so we would just claim we where coding as they also where to stupid to know between a compiler and a chat program and to know between
\"h3ll0 &uy$ |-|0\\/\\/ 4|23 y4\'11?\" and
\"Start Program 100: Print \"whatever\"; 110: Goto 100\"
and we meant it in all sencerity.. for the longest time it was a code and still is to most people and until the generation under me instead of being the hacker like use chose to be \"OMG sup4r 3117 h4x0rzzlolol!!111!!1one\" (sorry but i hate most of ya\'ll younger generation, guys here are cool mostly but.... :/ )
l33t is just a code still using proper as possible grammer and spelling
1337 is OMG is t3h k3wl lolololol using \"AOL chat ebonics\" and rancid and vagrant mispellings
now i will have to laugh out of the room and then flame back for insulting me anyone who says l33t is stupid, i will agree that 1337 is stupid though (there is a difference i just explained it now please call them what they are not using l33t and 1337 interchangably ok? :) )
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Yeah, all those kids should be rooted out. Or in? *chases the thought away* :D
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I just use it for passwords as... well all of the hackers i know...cant hack worth a damn...and my parents know what a chat room is...and subsequently kick my ass if they find out im doing anything illegal...(they only catch me half the time im not dead yet)...anyways its kind of lost its purpose and most of the people using it arent worth talking to anyways...
just my two trias
regards
-Tarach
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yeah most of people who call themselves hackers do the following:
1. Search Astalavista for an appropriate crack
2. Run the crack
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yea i know the history of 1337 and all that. but people today using (especially little kids trying to get som kind up \"high rolller hacker\" recognition)
today all it stands for is lame tools saying negative things to me or offensive things like \"u r teh suxor\". you will see alot of this in online games (first person shooters) like counter strike. \"d00d r u using hax\"
(for the record they are not \"hax\" but simple programs to cheat) had to get that one of my chest.
i used to hack alot, and i used to hack (not download little msn bots and lame programs) but i never used 1337 speak or even have a handle (an identity type thing)
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this is on kind of a random note but has anyone seen the movie \"Hackers\"? its kind of old but its still...decent... 8)
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not even descent.. that is the biggest load of FUD ever.. that movie is crap. And some of us lived in red states where even electricity was almost of the devil >_< (if i am told one more thing i like or is of modern thinking is of the \"devil\" i am gonna blow somebodies head off XD)
EDIT: \"suxx0rz\" and suff didnt come around till the generation under me (the current 10-15 year olds) started messing up my cool stuff... l33t was spoken EXACTLY like real english.. just with letters exchanged for symbols that letters
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it wasnt that bad i mean sure the storyline sucked...and there was no action whatsoever...and most of the stuff they said was wrong...but...damnation your right....it just sucked....
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plus they made the press think hackers could really do that stuff... which they cant. so people thougt all nerdy kids where changing their FBI files and crap and then voted to pass laws that limit our freedom to this day :/
And not even a goth chick and camo paint laptop (that laptop was sweet) where enough recompence to deserve my seeing it XD (camo painted goth chick maybe.. but they didnt have that)
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*Fires up his Movie OS*
Whoa, code is flying all around me....*trippy*
Anywho. The original use of so called \'l33t sp34k\' came from old BBS\'s and Forums that would block certain words. To be able to use the censored works people would come up with interesting ways of writing the words. Substituting most notibly 3 - e, 1 - i or l, 5 - s, and so on.
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Man, you guys have it easy! I live in Los Angeles and am on a college campus. The lingo here changes every damned day. Do you have any idea how accurate the (albeit crappy) movie Malibu\'s Most Wanted is? Christ, it\'s so hard to take some times.
On the other hand, I\'m involved in an argument in \"Languages in PS\" where i fight for linguistic diversity, this is just another example. It just hurts to be principled some times!
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Sounds kind of like a debate we\'re having in my government class, \"Is free speech only free until somebody says something that somebody higher up doesn\'t agree with.\" Steming from the Ward Churchill essay controversy.
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Originally posted by buddha
Man, you guys have it easy! I live in Los Angeles and am on a college campus. The lingo here changes every damned day. Do you have any idea how accurate the (albeit crappy) movie Malibu\'s Most Wanted is? Christ, it\'s so hard to take some times.
On the other hand, I\'m involved in an argument in \"Languages in PS\" where i fight for linguistic diversity, this is just another example. It just hurts to be principled some times!
Seriosuly... man it sucks to be you :/ LA is like the bastion for celeberity americanism and all that i stand against
(and i also hope to get the world multi-lingual vs. one universal language that binds the people under a NWO)
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1337 Speak has many different contributers to it. Alot of its being a way to get around banned words in chat / forums. Another place is online gaming- i mean gaming like counter strike / or RTS games. This contributed words like pwnd, ownd, woot, n00b, etc.... The reason for these abbreiviations is that you only have a like 3 second timeframe to gloat over your kill, else you get taken down in the next game, or lose a vital strategic advantage. Thats why you say \"pwnd\" instead of \"Woo hoo i beat you so much that time you suck\", and expressions like \"woot\",. etc. I undedrstand people using it in those situations, but outside of that its just stupid.
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Originally posted by Foresteer
Anyway \"l33t\" (yeah its l33t you \"n00b0rz\"not 1337)
I knew it! I knew it wan\'t originally 1337!!! 8)
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n00b0r.. thats a new one.
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Originally posted by Efflixi Aduro
Originally posted by Foresteer
Anyway \"l33t\" (yeah its l33t you \"n00b0rz\"not 1337)
I knew it! I knew it wan\'t originally 1337!!! 8)
Smartass :P that was satyrical statement.. using 1337 to describe l33t with irony :/
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i wonder if flaming 1337 5p3@k(<- that equals tthe noob language) is against forum rules... ?(
anyways n00b0rz isnt too new ive heard it before...much too my dismay...
*Edit: lol forgot the \"u\" in forum oops
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yeah all inernet knowledgeable know l33t and even most of 1337 by now XD
(like my sig? i updated it with some new insanity that spewed out of my head :D )
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Originally posted by Efflixi Aduro
Originally posted by Foresteer
Anyway \"l33t\" (yeah its l33t you \"n00b0rz\"not 1337)
I knew it! I knew it wan\'t originally 1337!!! 8)
Back in the days when my mother went to college, it was \"31337\".
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Wow, the fact that this topic went so far is a testament to l33t\'s (1337 hehe :D ) history and misuse. I like to learn javascript exploits and server-side includes and such, but I don\'t really consider myself a hacker in today\'s terms (cracker) but more of the 80\'s term, when it meant you knew the inner workings of your computer and software, and how to fix it and keep it running. Well, I think 1337 15 teh 5uxX0R5zz! (hehe, it is \"xor\" encryption! :) )
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Would you believe Microsoft have a guide to this?
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
Crazy but true.. and there is a wikipedia entry also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet ( This has a large amount of very disturbing detail. The easily shocked, the very young, the elderly, and those with a family history of heart-problems should not view this link - you have been warned !)
Personally I regard the utterance of leet-speek as an open invitation to inflict great bodily harm upon the speaker. That, or a sign of impending apocalypse and the downfall of civilisation.. I\'m not sure which.
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Would you believe Microsoft have a guide to this?
that is the at the same time the coolest and the scariest thing i have ever heard
Personally I regard the utterance of leet-speek as an open invitation to inflict great bodily harm upon the speaker. That, or a sign of impending apocalypse and the downfall of civilisation.. I\'m not sure which.
you are not alone in your confusion i assure you :D
regards
-Tarach
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lol looked at the wikipedia site... god that is some pretty in depth coverage of it.
the only origin of a word that i personally know the story of is \"naab\", another word for noob, which originated in another mmorpg- there was an alliance called AA, which was pretty disorganised so they anyone who became a part of it was labeled a naab as a special type of n00b... Just thought i\'d share that random piece of info.