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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: kidkiller13 on February 23, 2005, 04:27:15 am
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can someone plz explain to me what html is and how i can use it??
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hey kid if you have yahoo messenger add mike_wsnc and i will go over the basics of html for you and help you get your site online
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I have no idea about anything related to html but tripod has a great site editor that makes it east. (belongs in hydlaa plaza)
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im srry but there is an error with it right now is there any other way you can help me?
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Please try to stick to 1 thread. You already have a website thread, making 2 more for exactly the same topic is just silly.
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i dont really think it is silly cause then you get many people who never go on certain areas so there are many replies
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rules are rules
shut up and obey :D
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Originally posted by Demarthl
rules are rules
shut up and obey :D
Indeed. Also, check out http://www.programmingtutorials.com
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Html is the filth that low income computer nerds push around to get moeny for their scraps of food. It\'s a dirty job, but someone has to do it. In fact alot of people seem to WANT to do it. Disgusting. ;)
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Tutorialized (http://www.tutorialized.com) for all of your HTML needs. Or you can just use a program like Dreamweaver.
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Pulls out dusty picture
(http://www.weiterbildungsblog.de/archives/google.jpg)
Well it isnt exactly the picture I was searching for* but it fits.
*The picture I was searching for is called tutorial on google and is quite funny :P
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Hey Clover,
How on Earth did you munster the strength, courage and time to simply answer a question without saying something snotty? Are you feeling well? I mean, noone else here had nearly the patience nor fortitude to do so. You have to understand, the rest of us were born with all the knowledge we have now and never had to learn it from another human being. That\'s why we are sometimes a little impatient with questions we know the answers to.
I am amazed by your constitution!
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I don\'t want to be mean or anything, but please do every person who actually codes and cares about keeping the web up to standards a favor and do NOT use any wysiwyg (what you see is what you get...) editors. Sure they are easy, but it\'s better to learn html. I know you probably don\'t want to, but please do the internet this favor :rolleyes:
I know a lot of people don\'t realize it, but pages load much faster when you don\'t use crappy coding, and thats what most (probably all) of those fast things do. HTML is very simple actually, and not that hard of a concept to grasp. I suggest HTML Dog (http://www.htmldog.com) to learn along with learning CSS.
Sorry for interrupting this easy post, but you asked to learn HTML, and I really hope you do!
P.S.
XHTML + CSS might not be a bad idea...
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I don\'t want to be mean or anything, but please do every person who actually codes and cares about keeping the web up to standards a favor and do NOT use any wysiwyg (what you see is what you get...) editors. Sure they are easy, but it\'s better to learn html. I know you probably don\'t want to, but please do the internet this favor
wysiwyg is the devil!:evil: though you can learn html from it if you take a wysiwyg program apart
HTML is simple just google it and youll find a bazillion tutorials(though only 1 or 2 of them will be worth looking at)
and to actually answer your question:
Html is one of the easiest and most basic methods of \"communicating\" with a computer (basically binary for dummies like me)
regards
-Tarach
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well if we are talking web standards, dont learn HTML... to stay with the standards you must use XHTML and CSS to do you work, HTML is gone, w3 has ran past it, its all XHTML now.. no more of those made up kiddy HTML tags... gotta use the strict XHTML....
no im not being a smartass, i use XHTML and CSS for every page I do
BTW: Dreamweaver now makes XHTML compliant pages, least the version we have at school does...
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BTW: Dreamweaver now makes XHTML compliant pages, least the version we have at school does...
your SCHOOL has dreamweaver?...i dont like you:evil:
anyways yeah i hate youX(..but yeah XHTML is alot better than basic HTML if a little more complicated....and dreamweaver is a cool program....
again i hate you....:D
regards
-Tarach
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you like dreamweaver that much? heck i have copy here on my desktop, of course it isnt the education edition we have at school, but it does good job at color coding my pages, and keeping track and FTP\'ing them...
there are no other editors compared to dreamweaver...
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yeah i actually have it on my desktop too...but its stupid 5.0...i um...\"acquired\" the mx adition but my stupid parents made me get rid of it once they found out it was ilegal...
(why would your school need it anyways ?( )
regards
-Tarach
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my school has web design as a course, and as being in web design II, we make our school web site, since this year no one is in web design III, but next year i\'ll most likely be in 3 to once again make our web site...
btw: we have the whole studio package, flash, fireworks...
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I don\'t know that it is nessary to say do not use a wysiwyg editor... I use dreamweaver to page but then go in and polish up the code.. If it hadn\'t been for programs like that, taht could get the page close I would have never learned html.
After thiking about it I guess the last site I built the new one for my guild was done primarly in the code box instead of in the design box... but it is also the firs one i tried to to totally seperate the html and the styles.
Dreamweaver also does a pretty good job of making compliant pages... or at least pages that work cross browser...
But I agree don\'t let the program do all the work and call it good enough... Go in after you\'ve got the design and make sure the page is clean and compliant.
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Originally posted by Mezasa
I don\'t want to be mean or anything, but please do every person who actually codes and cares about keeping the web up to standards a favor and do NOT use any wysiwyg (what you see is what you get...) editors. Sure they are easy, but it\'s better to learn html. I know you probably don\'t want to, but please do the internet this favor :rolleyes:
I know a lot of people don\'t realize it, but pages load much faster when you don\'t use crappy coding, and thats what most (probably all) of those fast things do.
I\'m just going to say, people who actually \'code and care\' about the web do so by creating informative and meaningful sites, not by slaving over HTML code when there is an easier way. And these \'WYSIWYG\' editors don\'t add a lot of pointless code, they add what you tell them to add. A few lines might be added for compatibility with the program or web standards, but it would take thousands of lines of HTML to show a noticable difference in the loading time. (By noticable I mean a second or two at most.)
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Not download speed, but how fast it renders in the browser, take a nicely written site, and take a site that has inline css before every paragraph and all sorts of things like that, and see which renders faster in your browser.
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I\'m saying that the time difference is minimal. I write my code with inset CSS/Javascript and external CSS/Javascript, the difference isn\'t noticeable.
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ooo.. the difference has always been big for me with external and inline CSS, thats why my pages just link to the master CSS and any other local CSS pages, so no inline stuff, frontpage, which sucks horribly, always does inline, dreamweaver does too, but not to the extent...
anyway i use :
DzSoft PHP Editor and Source Edit
to code my pages with some help from dreamweaver, these too programs work nicely with my PHP coded pages...
anyway clover, most professional\'s who care about the quality of their pages, me, dont use WYSIWYG, as they tend to add a lot of extra things, and make it too easy, when i meet a problem in some code, any coding language, I like to shift through 500 lines of code by hand and fix it...
so anyway... external > inline :D
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thx everyone, ive got the hang of html , but now im looking for templates , does anyone no a good place to find some ???