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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Slagle on February 24, 2005, 01:42:17 am
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Im sorry I have to announce this...but after improving the guild so much, we must end it. Turns out that my guildmembers are so Cutthroat they betray me. They will probably say some bad things about me too, but its worth saying this, because atleast what I say is the truth.
Ghirtek was promoted to guildmaster (by me) a week or so ago, he ran the guild good until I found out what he is doing. Him and a Enki by the name of Cutter (Know him?) are doing stuff behind our guilds back. and Cutter isnt even in the guild (hes in a different guild). they wont tell me whats going on either...
If something is so secret you have to keep it from the most loyal member of the guild, then its not to benifit the guild. I told the traitors I would expose them if they didnt tell me what was goin on..and I did. Because im a man of my word, unlike them.
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Hate to see another Guild to go...You did wise, Cuthroats or no, but traitors are traitors...
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Im going to start removing everyone from the guild. To do them a favor. Hell they might not even be doing traitor stuff, but if they cant tell me what there doing, si then there not loyal, that means there traitors. I started the guild, I end it.
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Hmm..i thought the ending guilds was a fad but after reading this thread...U did good Slagle. And i have met cutter..not the nicest guy ever ;) Well. Sad to see you go. You should try the new Raven Guard tho *cough* shameless advertiseing *cough*
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Originally posted by Robinmagus
You should try the new Raven Guard tho *cough* shameless advertiseing *cough*
It\'s like that then, eh? Try Chaotic Warriors...the link is closer...:D
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OMG! I see how it is. Raven guard offers free swords and equipment :D (not really but...) http://www.ravenguard.50megs.com DO IT!
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From cutter:
wow i cant believe your taking it this far crowdawn aka stimix aka whatever else.
anyways this is what REALLY happend :
At first i was cheering for kord,a tall blue fella looking for some challengers in /shout. then the guy lost so many times i said he sucked, in /say.Then he starts calling me a traitor ,because i once was part of the cutthroats,but am now proudly part of guardians of the way.so yeah for some reason the pvp desperate kord (or korg or kordj, i ferget) saught to taunt me,by calling me a traitor, in the hopes id fight him, but i said he was acting stupid and that i wasent a traitor and that ghirtek knew that ,because i consider myself a friend of ghirtek since he had helped me allot.So now kord goes and whines to crowdawn,who supposedly is sitting next to him, who gets on my case about what me an ghirtek are doing behind his back .(im really sorry for implicating ghirtek,sorry dude) I thought the guy was joking, so i play along,you know acting like there this whole conspiracy or something, turns out he wasent.(note: crowdawn,aka stimix,slagle, is the person who is shutting down the guild, i did not know he had that control,or that he had started the cutthroats.Hes also the one that once recruited me to the cutthroats,but he was less anal retentive back then.Read the first post in this thread to learn about ghirtek.)
This is all a big misunderstanding,and is proof of what happens when you stir a few over-sensative geeks,a few shit-disturbers, and one big-stupid remark together.i hope slagle reverses his decision in the light of this post.
In defense of my name,i AM a nice guy, i strive to help as many people as sanity and time allow.And i have great hope in this game.
Ive never me this robinmagnus guy, so i dont know where he gets off saying im not nice,i give what i get.
This is the best i can do,in explaining what happend.
This is my public resindence of any blood guild so too say.
P.S
slagle or crowdawn whatever. Did you really think we were gonna kill you or send evil lag bunnies your way ? jeeese. theres only so much that can be done on the net ! I really did like the set up of the cuttroats,why were you so quick to stop the your guild. Its as if you were waiting for a chance. All this took place in less then 5 hours for heavens sake.
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Why are so many guilds meeting their end this month? There have been too many.... it is sad to see you go Cuttroats but I guess it wasnt meant to be.
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Ah the beauty of betrayyel..
Oh and I wouldn\'t expect much from a guy like Cutter, he is completely new to this game and very ignorant. He is bound to go with the flow of anything, all it takes is this simple question \"Do you want to help me with something\"
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why are you ganging on me ? huh id just like to know what i did to have such a bad reputation to people i dont even know .
Besides we were all naive and new to this game at somepoint.
regarding this issue. there was no betrayal involved ! i cant switch guilds if i want ? jeese
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You aren\'t in what I call a bad position. I called you ignorant because you are new, it is something not to be ashamed off, we were all starters in the beginning right. Also things could be better if you spoke up, tell why you think you shouldn\'t be accused of the thing you did. Explain and we will listen.
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ummm i did . 5 post up dude.
or did you miss that ?
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you were the one bumming for trias off me not 10 minuts ago . whos the newb ?
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Originally posted by Sarrow
I called you ignorant because you are new,
heh, the irony.Originally posted by Sarrow
tell why you think you shouldn\'t be accused of the thing you did. Explain and we will listen.
Shouldn\'t it work \"Innocent until proven guilty\"?
anyway back on topic:
I am happy to see you go. But hey, with unstable leader like that it wouldn\'t last long anyway...
I like this part:but if they cant tell me what there doing, si then there not loyal, that means there traitors.
it makes one chuckle :)
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thank you !
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Originally posted by Cutterjf
you were the one bumming for trias off me not 10 minuts ago . whos the newb ?
Youre all newbs, the end. 8)
*disclamer this statement includes the whole ps community except me, I am not pointing out any hatred to anyone, just extreme love for myself :)
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Apparently all this happened today after I left for school.
I would like to announce that the Cutthroats will not be coming to an end.
Crowdawn appointed me Guild Master though he may be the founder he has no authority to end the guild.
I believe this was for the most part a misunderstanding on the part of Crowdawn...
I would like to let him know we will accept him back into the guild and he will be able to retain his previous rank of Guild Father... (With his wings slightly clipped to prevent damage like this happening again.) That is if he wishes to return.
However even if he does not wish to return to the guild he founded ? be assured I will continue to lead the Cutthroats into the future.
Once again Crowdawn asked me to become the Guild Master and as such I will Continue to push towards the goals laid down for the Cutthroats.
Edit: Spelling
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It may be a misunderstanding, but my guild is still unloyal. Oh, and cutter, thats not how the story went...
anyway, I want to tell you that Cutter, is joining other guilds and getting there guild funds. then he will return to the cutthroats. Well, that what Ghirtek told me on the site forums, that he was just going to get there funds and return to the cutthroats. anyway, anyone that can do this to people doesnt deserve to ever be in a guild. and that to me is a traitor
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How can you expect members of a guild called \"cutthroats\" to be loyal anyway. :P
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well, let me see so:
Slagle founded the guild, but he handed over leadership of it to Ghirtek ... now Slagle is going to close it, because he is suspecting that \"his\" guild is betraying him?
Well, first of all Slagle you left the guild, and you gave it to Ghirtek by promoting him to guild master, correct? Only the guildmaster can close a guild, after what I know and you are not, perhaps you are the founder but... you see no founder can close his guild, unless he is the leader of it...
See where I am going? and well Slagle you seem to disagree with Cutter on the story, why not tell us your side of it?
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how about you all rub yourself down in gasoline and light one of you on fire then give the rest hugs :)
i mean good god every guild has its betrayers the sign of a good leader is one who can brush it off brush his teeth and then send what still follows the leader to go beat the betrayer up in some back ally...
even as a poor example look at cabal...they have had more betrayls then most guild combined and yet they just seem to brush it off like dust... not that im complmenting the scumbags but mea
in concuslion get over it go home and beat the crap out of the ones who are disloyal :)
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I told you no such thing I told you I cracked a joke about doing that. Cutter told me he had no plas of doing that and that he was happy in his new guild. I then ket cutter know I was only kidding. (However what kind of good Cutthroat would i be if i didn\'t let teh offer stand :P )
Cutter was probably just trying to make you mad.
He seemed to accomplish that goal.
I do not have some secret plan for the guild or any members in it at the moment. Not saying I will never have some secrete plans after all we are cutthroats... But for the time we are too young a guild to try to play silly games we need members and money like all struggling new guilds not war.
/me shakes his head.
I have spent a lot of work on this guild.
I don\'t want you to leave over a misunderstanding, and someone just trying to get under your skin. However if you continue this behavior I will not be able to invite you back it would be too much of a liability. I cannot have you jumping to conclusions and deleting all the guild members from the guild and removing all the posts from our forum.
I was happy to see you did not remove everyone from the guild.
But you are making it harder and harder to leave the offer open for you to rejoin.
Edit: Thanks Seperot for the kind words of advice. ;)
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Originally posted by Jazeera
well, let me see so:
Slagle founded the guild, but he handed over leadership of it to Ghirtek ... now Slagle is going to close it, because he is suspecting that \"his\" guild is betraying him?
Well, first of all Slagle you left the guild, and you gave it to Ghirtek by promoting him to guild master, correct? Only the guildmaster can close a guild, after what I know and you are not, perhaps you are the founder but... you see no founder can close his guild, unless he is the leader of it...
See where I am going? and well Slagle you seem to disagree with Cutter on the story, why not tell us your side of it?
This has nothing to do with you Jazeera perhaps whats done is done and you should just go back to the hole where the Dark Empire likes to store you guys :)
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Phalanx, all I wish to know is why Slagle is so quick to accuse others of something, besides I will interfere if I want to 8)
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You Jazeera are the last person he should answer to, a mere servant and once upon a time a unsteady soul who jumped guild to guild and betrayed many under different alias..or so I have read :P
Good luck Slagle with whatever you choose to do next, be a freelancer its always fun :)
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betrayed many under different alias..or so I have read
I may have had many alias, but I never betrayed anyone (never believe all that you read)
a mere servant
I am proud to be a servant of the Dark Empire, but you have your opinion, and I have my
Socrates Demise, Slagle and Cutter good luck in whatever path you may choose, I see I am getting a little off topic so I will take my leave.
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... some of you guys take this wayyyy too serisly ,ghirteks just being a good leader, but the rest of you....take a chill pill.treachery is a real life thing.i play planeSHIFT to SHIFt from real life , im sure you do too.
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Hmm where to start...
Ah,
Cutterjf: No ones being crazy here. There just trying to settle an arguement.
Phalanx: If a thread is started here be expected for everyone to throw in their opinion, thats what Jazeera is doing so he\'s not doing anyting wrong. If people don\'t want others throwing in comments then converse this in your guilds forum and not the planeshift one.
Jazeera: The dark empire has no proud servants ;) (jk again...)
Now, if youll excuse me, Im going to help seperot bring some gasoline.
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Ghirtek dons an asbestes suit and prepirs for the gasoline.
Now how ya gonna burn a rock with gas?
I cannot say I mind the conversation it keeps our guilds name in the eyes of the people. ;)
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Originally posted by Socrates Demise
Ghirtek dons an asbestes suit and prepirs for the gasoline.
Now how ya gonna burn a rock with gas?
*brings out a drill and a stick of dynamite*
Who said anything about burning the kran. :D (oo is it kran or krans, well, many krans)
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Originally posted by Jazeera
betrayed many under different alias..or so I have read
I may have had many alias, but I never betrayed anyone (never believe all that you read)
a mere servant
I am proud to be a servant of the Dark Empire, but you have your opinion, and I have my
Socrates Demise, Slagle and Cutter good luck in whatever path you may choose, I see I am getting a little off topic so I will take my leave.
As far as I remember you were once member of Rebirth and The Holy Searing, and you jumped from Chaotic Good...to...to this abomination!!! Well I don\'t know what you think, but I call that treachery!!! Well unless you are Chaotic Neutral, then I can understand...
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Originally posted by Slagle
Im sorry I have to announce this...but after improving the guild so much, we must end it. Turns out that my guildmembers are so Cutthroat they betray me. They will probably say some bad things about me too, but its worth saying this, because atleast what I say is the truth.
Ghirtek was promoted to guildmaster (by me) a week or so ago, he ran the guild good until I found out what he is doing. Him and a Enki by the name of Cutter (Know him?) are doing stuff behind our guilds back. and Cutter isnt even in the guild (hes in a different guild). they wont tell me whats going on either...
If something is so secret you have to keep it from the most loyal member of the guild, then its not to benifit the guild. I told the traitors I would expose them if they didnt tell me what was goin on..and I did. Because im a man of my word, unlike them.
Yes i know what you mean!!! I was just on and i seen Ghirtek and Cutter. Man aftar what they did to me i hate em!!!! cutter cast some freezing spell on me that hadeSOOO much lag. And Ghirtek stood there and LOL at me!!!!
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Wow, this is a nice evening entertainment.
Cutterjf: you are indeed a nice guy, just look at the cursing in your first post. Nobody ever teached you cursing only makes you lose reason? Oh, and have I seen you before? That \"sensitive geek\" thingy was a line of a guy banned from the PS\' IRC Channel...
Phalanx: Calm down, don\'t do personal attacks in the middle of a guild thread, we already have Sep to do that job (which he does well :P)
Soulless_Body: Simple, call a GM to do justice, that\'s why they are there.
Slagle: I know what is to have some power-abuser (not implying he is) but, what was your idea of giving Guild Master power to someone?
Socrates Demise: He does have the right to dissolve the guild, that is if he is still holds rank of the highest member ingame. All you have to do is create a new name, get the members to move and that\'s it.
Now, this is kinda off-topic already, if there is nothing to say, don\'t speak. Of course I don\'t expect Sep to hear this warning, but heck, he has the right to (seeing he does it for a long time..)
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I gave ghirtek the guildmaster rank and left days ago... I didnt know this was still here