PlaneShift

Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 10:40:02 pm

Title: The wipe!
Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 10:40:02 pm
I hate this, they\'re going to wipe every character in the game clean, everything will be gone, thats stupid, all because of some stupid cheaters, well just delete their character, you don\'t need to wipe everyone just because of like 7 people, cmon use your heads, i mean im just about to get a glyph and this has to happen, what is wrong with that!?!?!?!?
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Post by: WizardsRule on March 09, 2005, 10:42:51 pm
The wipe is a GOOD thing.  Many players goat extra advantages or got characteres messed up at creation.  Too much has happened not to wipe.(remember we are only in BETA)
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Post by: glenduil on March 09, 2005, 10:43:09 pm
It seems to me it is impossible to track all the people who used the cheats. The wipe is the only way to make it fair for everyone.

edit: wizardsrule was faster :)
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Post by: XeNoDeMoS on March 09, 2005, 10:44:36 pm
i dont think you want to have to search in the sewers for rats to get extra cash, while other players sit around with 100000000k
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 10:48:46 pm
But still...aren\'t you at all mad that your character that you worked so hard to get stuff for is now just gonna be gone, seriously your treating it like its nothing!

And plus for tracking people who use cheats, that is possible, you just need the right code tracking software, go through the coding of the game and see what code got messed up due to hackers and track their software to the email address, then ban them, its not that hard.
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Post by: buddha on March 09, 2005, 10:49:35 pm
Personally, I don\'t care about the cheaters.  The world is more interesting if not all of us are poor and beleagured.  I mean, why should you care?  Once the economy gets moving, they will be spending it and creating a richer environmnent.  However, the wipe will apparently bring many new skills and spells.  For that, I am happily anticipating it.
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Post by: shorty13 on March 09, 2005, 10:51:11 pm
I think the wipe is GOOD. GOOD. As long as they implement a few more things before it, such as magic (all the glyphs and lots more spells) and even the crafting.  About a week after that (mainly the magic :) ) I think they should do the wipe.
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 10:52:47 pm
Well good point actually, but how will the wipe possibly bring new stuff (well unless they\'re updating it right after the wipe) and plus I think its weird that they opened the game and there were all these bugs and glitches in it, they opened it too soon if you ask me, now people who have already started playing and are acustomed to it are gonna get deleted, to prevent this problem they should have tested it when they made the game and see what was wrong, and get good security for the game so it wouldn\'t be able to get hacked, make more money possibilities, and everything, seriously.
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Post by: buddha on March 09, 2005, 11:04:30 pm
This is the testing phase.  You are now an official play-tester.  How does it feel?  Kinda nice, isn\'t it?  I like the badge they sent me, it makes me feel official.  Oh, and the hat.  In my hat, people think I\'m some kind of cop.
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 11:05:24 pm
...so let me get this straight, this has been out ever since 2001 and its still testing!?

EDIT: I just looked at the copyright date, its been out since 2001!!!!!!!!!

and its still testing man that is weird!!!
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Post by: Ayshe on March 09, 2005, 11:20:42 pm
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Originally posted by Suno_Regin
But still...aren\'t you at all mad that your character that you worked so hard to get stuff for is now just gonna be gone, seriously your treating it like its nothing!


Look, I mean as little offence as possible, but you are an idiot.

The news of this wipe has been around for a very long time and it is totally necessary. It also isn\'t as big a deal as you are making out - this is a tech demo, not a game yet! Some of the bugs so far have given rise to unfairly powerful characters, which throw the balance of the game off.


You deserve special mention for this:

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And plus for tracking people who use cheats, that is possible, you just need the right code tracking software, go through the coding of the game and see what code got messed up due to hackers and track their software to the email address, then ban them, its not that hard.


Are you high? Do you know how ridiculous this idea is? Aside from the length of time and wasted resources to implement it, do you have any idea how easy it is to bypass clientside anticheat in an open source game? I bet if they actually implement something like this, there will be a workaround made from the CVS before it\'s even released.

Calm down son, remember you are here to test the game and help find bugs. Your hard earned cash and stats are just numbers in a database that sorely needs wiping. Deal with it.
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Post by: Phalanx on March 09, 2005, 11:25:22 pm
Sigh You whine to much...do it all you want won\'t change anything :P
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Post by: Ayshe on March 09, 2005, 11:26:53 pm
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Originally posted by Suno_Regin
...I think its weird that they opened the game and there were all these bugs and glitches in it, they opened it too soon if you ask me...


Your reasoning and knowledge of Planeshift astounds me. You do know this game is done by devs as a hobby, right? You know we all have been waiting for CB for years, right...? Too soon? Hell, I\'m amazed we didn\'t have to wait longer...

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... they should have tested it when they made the game and see what was wrong...


What the hell do you think this release is FOR?! Don\'t you realise that nearly all games pass through this stage? Internal testing > Closed testing > Open testing > More testing & tweaking > Next round of internal. Guess where this one is at, sunshine?

Holy hellmonkeys...
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 11:30:42 pm
Well first of all, I thought we were here to PLAY THE GAME, and here your all calling me stupid, well what do you expect? Its a game, and if your just testing then theres really no point in playing at the moment, just wait until the real thing releases, but they are making all these updates and stuff to make it sound like its open, like \"crystal blue new release\" and all these updates and screenshots, thats really misleading
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Post by: Incenjucar on March 09, 2005, 11:36:35 pm
You have it wrong.

You are here to TEST THE GAME.

We are, at least.  Some people (most of us) enjoy influencing games.  People stand in line for it all the time.  When they had the WoW testing, it was an -event-.  Here, we get to do it with MUCH more force, because the devs aren\'t listening to marketers.

If you don\'t like being useful, you\'ve missed the point of beta testing entirely.
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 11:37:35 pm
WHERE IN THE SITE OR ANYTHING DOES IT SAY ALL THIS CRAP!?!?!?!?!?

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW, PLUS I JUST STARTED AND I ALREADY HAVE TO DELETE EVERYTHING I JUST WORKED FOR, THATS SERIOUSLY CHEAP, I HEARD ABOUT THE WIPE BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY OVER BECAUSE I SAW PEOPLE SAYING THEY LOST THEIR GLYPHS AND EVERYTHING, I DIDNT KNOW, GOD PEOPLE GET OFF MY BACK, HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Incenjucar on March 09, 2005, 11:38:59 pm
Do you understand the meaning of \"beta\" in games?

Read the News on the front page of the website.

http://www.planeshift.it/main_01.html
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Post by: XeNoDeMoS on March 09, 2005, 11:39:07 pm
lol if you had been here for the previus game of ps,where you only collect crystals that arnt worth anything.you would see that they did make a BIG improvement.like you said its just a game.so why do you care about your char so much?
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Post by: Incenjucar on March 09, 2005, 11:40:05 pm
Kid, you came here complaining without investigating the situation.  You are free to not complain.
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 11:40:12 pm
Cuz i worked hard for it
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 11:41:11 pm
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Originally posted by Incenjucar
Do you understand the meaning of \"beta\" in games?

Read the News on the front page of the website.

http://www.planeshift.it/main_01.html
Copy and paste the exact link and what it says here, i wanna see this
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Post by: XeNoDeMoS on March 09, 2005, 11:41:44 pm
Sunp_Regin stop whinng so much.....you sound like a baby.we all worked hard.and if you just started you have nothing to worry bout.
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 11:41:55 pm
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Originally posted by Incenjucar
Do you understand the meaning of \"beta\" in games?

Read the News on the front page of the website.

http://www.planeshift.it/main_01.html
Copy and paste the exact link and what it says here, i wanna see this
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Post by: Incenjucar on March 09, 2005, 11:42:37 pm
And the devs and tester have been working hard for YEARS.

Everyone, including the people who started testing before the open testing was even released, is going to lose EVERYTHING.

Most of them who understand the project are -happy-.

Learn patience.
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Post by: XeNoDeMoS on March 09, 2005, 11:42:38 pm
stop dble posting
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Post by: Suno_Regin on March 09, 2005, 11:42:51 pm
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Originally posted by XeNoDeMoS
Sunp_Regin stop whinng so much.....you sound like a baby.we all worked hard.and if you just started you have nothing to worry bout.
Heh, yeah i do, i didnt \"just start\" i started about a week ago, but i already have all this money and stuff, and now im about to lose it, it makes it almost not even worth it...
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Post by: XeNoDeMoS on March 09, 2005, 11:44:01 pm
you started a week ago...lol....i like 2 months ago so dont talk and there are ppl who have been around for even longer
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Post by: Moogie on March 09, 2005, 11:44:01 pm
Some people apparently know nothing. Suno is one of those people.

First of all, the wipe has nothing to do with cheaters. It is a necessary thing that has to be done several times or more during these testing phases.

Secondly, this is a free and opensource. Don\'t whine and peanut about things that are so ludicrous I\'m suprised nobody has been slapped yet. If you can do better, feel free.

Thirdly, you are NOT here to play a game. If you knew anything about Planeshift, if you had read a single thing about this project, you would know that.

Stupid topic. Utterly astounding.