PlaneShift
Support => Forum and Website Discussions => Topic started by: sashok on March 19, 2005, 10:58:58 pm
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I believe a good feature would be forum respect. I saw how it works on other forums. You can look at wc3campaigns.com Although there they have a lot of advertising schemes and bunch of forum gold you can have.
Anyway respect could be distributed for anything by other forum members. For example, somebody does a request for the game, for a forum member, can get respect by those who requested it and anyone else for that matter.
There are people who help in Technical forums and all they can get is thanx, but respect could be given as well. Respect would be in terms of points. People who do model requests, skins, drawings, stories, tech help, write guides or even those who propose GOOD wishes in wish list forum could get respect points from other members. Respect points could give forum members options to change title, Actually have an avatar if a lot of respect is distrubuted and any other cool things. This could be good for those who actually participate in this forum. I\'m not one of those mostly, that\'s why I speak out, knowing that I don\'t sound selfish for any personal gain.
Think about it
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Good idea; for example, I know Xythe has drawn a lot of people\'s characters in the fan art area, I am not sure what he gets out of it other than many thanks and complements, but I think it\'s a system that could be beneficial to the game. It will have to be up to the devs, gms and moderators though, possibly implemented and governed the same way the advisors in-game are.
Just my thoughts,
Xirius
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Those requests and features are really a staple of recreational forumboards. These forums, even though there is a hydlaa for conversation, these forums are for help about planeshift. A nice concept, but highly unneeded
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aswell as the mass flow of people wanted \'respect\' thus handing in 1 minute thought projects overflowing the system and making a nasty mess on the floor.
respect doesnt seem much at the moment ^^
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Respect was implemented at the creation of the board, you just can\'t see it. ;)
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respect rides alongside Recognition, to have respect you have to be recognised, and for that, you must have done something great or stand out from everyone else.
little or no respect is given to the lesser known people, for example someone new to the boards, their opinion is commonly disregarded for idiocy and in some cases is, just the way it is im afraid
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I proposed respect points as POINTS not as recongnition, in fact they are addition to simple recognition. Not only you are loved for helping etc. you also get to do cool things with given options. avatar, name color, some additional thing who knows.
but the majority rules, only one liked the idea while rest are against it
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It\'s quicker, easier, and fairer to let the admins control those rewards, like they always have done.
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I\'m an admin for Project Rockstar, and we award star points to helpful forum users. It\'s supposed to be a gauge for who to trust, but the more star points people get, the more they let it go to their heads and start acting more inconsiderate. Very counterproductive! I definitely don\'t think it would be a good idea to institute something like that here.
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What if you and your friend keep sending respect points to each other?
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Why do people need to get some sort of prize for being a good person? Isn\'t getting people\'s real respect and friendship enough anymore? Are we all just a bunch of stupid materialists now, who want and want and want? Ask yourselves that.
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Originally posted by fireofsoul
What if you and your friend keep sending respect points to each other?
The way it works on other forums is that you have to spread respect for others before you can give respect point to the same person twice. And you can\'t give respect point in short period of time.
But yeah, I can agree that this forum is not for such things since it\'s official forum.
however you all wrong that respect doesn\'t work, it\'s actually pretty useful thing and gets people involved. It\'s nothing about becoming stuckup or inconsiderate, it\'s giving fun opportunities for a dull forum. Nothing more. Maybe I used bad choise of word (respect) but that\'s what it\'s called elsewhere.
By the way, respect can be taken away as well...
All that happens is that you have your name, under it a a star(respect) and it says \"this person is respected community member\" or \"this person is on the way to be respected\" or \"this person is hated by everyone\" or \"this person is essential to the forum community\"
stuff like that. More respect, more stars.
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like what we already have, but they go by amount of posts.
i can see your point, but grono is right here
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No grono is not right. She presented an opinion and some people think like her. I can relate, I like her statement, but don\'t agree. Why? Well if no prizes were given out in anything, then what\'s the point of playing Planeshift, what\'s the point of playing any game, What\'s the point of living? Why do people get strong in Planeshift? Isn\'t that a prize. Why do people search for swords and better, every time better items. To stand out right? Why do we live our lives trying to get more money. Even though we only need a sufficient amount of money (not much) to survive, we want materialistic things and that includes travel and going places like restaurants and places like disney land..
Materials is not just clothes, it\'s not just points. Friendship is one thing, and very valuable thing at that, but I proposed something that will make you stand out, just like in a game of Planeshift!
Look, I\'m not pushing for this, I can care less, I just suggested it. I just saw only one good reason for not implementing this, and that\'s the fact that this forum already has a respect system (1) and this is official forum and used for official matters and not fan based forum (2) All other arguments fail
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Originally posted by sashok
No grono is not right. She presented an opinion and some people think like her. I can relate, I like her statement, but don\'t agree. Why? Well if no prizes were given out in anything, then what\'s the point of playing Planeshift, what\'s the point of playing any game, What\'s the point of living?
play planeshift for enjoyment, entertainment and make friends,
play other games for the same reason
live because you were given life.
enjoy it while its here, you wont get a second chance... life that is
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You get prizes and rewards from playing a game, but you don\'t need a prize to post on the forums. That\'s not what the forums are for. End of story. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Demarthl
Originally posted by sashok
No grono is not right. She presented an opinion and some people think like her. I can relate, I like her statement, but don\'t agree. Why? Well if no prizes were given out in anything, then what\'s the point of playing Planeshift, what\'s the point of playing any game, What\'s the point of living?
play planeshift for enjoyment, entertainment and make friends,
play other games for the same reason
live because you were given life.
enjoy it while its here, you wont get a second chance... life that is
:D right. Now that\'s a great point, but didn\'t answer anything relating
Entertainment in planeshift for me and for all of players is some kind of materialistic value. Cool armor, cool sword, more stats, more cash. You can\'t seriously propose you will enjoy the game just by having a character and chatting with people you know without doing anything and without developing your character.
If you can summorize all those activities in game, and life as just enjoyment, then I can summorize points on forum as simple enjoyment.
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Originally posted by Kixie
You get prizes and rewards from playing a game, but you don\'t need a prize to post on the forums. That\'s not what the forums are for. End of story. :rolleyes:
No, maybe this particular forum is not for fun, but there\'s plenty of forums that are designed like games, with points, cash, stockmarket, lottery etc. it can be fun like like a game. Forums are flexible, it\'s not the end of story.
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Originally posted by sashok
Originally posted by Kixie
You get prizes and rewards from playing a game, but you don\'t need a prize to post on the forums. That\'s not what the forums are for. End of story. :rolleyes:
No, maybe this particular forum is not for fun, but there\'s plenty of forums that are designed like games, with points, cash, stockmarket, lottery etc. it can be fun like like a game. Forums are flexible, it\'s not the end of story.
Those are recreational forums. This is not one. This forum is for help, simple chit chat at most, and for requests in game. No other functions are designed into this forum. Alot of you forget that much too often.
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:D right. Now that\'s a great point, but didn\'t answer anything relating
Entertainment in planeshift for me and for all of players is some kind of materialistic value. Cool armor, cool sword, more stats, more cash. You can\'t seriously propose you will enjoy the game just by having a character and chatting with people you know without doing anything and without developing your character.
If you can summorize all those activities in game, and life as just enjoyment, then I can summorize points on forum as simple enjoyment.
it related to your questions.
not all players care about levels and items, many do actually prefer to chat and ROLEPLAY beleive it or not.
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Originally posted by sashok
Entertainment in planeshift for me and for all of players is some kind of materialistic value. Cool armor, cool sword, more stats, more cash. You can\'t seriously propose you will enjoy the game just by having a character and chatting with people you know without doing anything and without developing your character.
You just lost 10 Respect Points :D
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Originally posted by Draklar
Originally posted by sashok
Entertainment in planeshift for me and for all of players is some kind of materialistic value. Cool armor, cool sword, more stats, more cash. You can\'t seriously propose you will enjoy the game just by having a character and chatting with people you know without doing anything and without developing your character.
You just lost 10 Respect Points :D
Well you quoted me out of context.
All the people who like to RP are all top leveled players. With best weapons and top stats. Now, I don\'t know what they are thinking, but it\'s not just chit chatting in game. They powerleveled for SURE!! After that, when they are satisfied with themselves, after recieving materialistic value, they sit back and enjoy the ride. Am I angry with them? Nope.
You guys don\'t have any arguments other than most obvious ones. The fact that this forum is official and not for fun purposes. That\'s why you start to quoting out of context and start being disrespectful.
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uh again not everyone chit chatting is high level, you see running around killing teffies in one hit... ever? not happening, never will.
you greivously make mistakes when you generalise in your statements although corret with the majority, there are minorities that are different, and you stirred them up :D
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Originally posted by sashok
Well you quoted me out of context.
Eh? I quoted a whole paragraph... all the context was there. You said no one can seriously expect anyone to enjoy just chatting with people, without having cool equipment and high skills.
And in fact there are things that prove you downright wrong... like MB ingame community... or irc.
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So what\'s the point of improving and udating Planeshift, if chit chat was implemented... How about the devs leave the game the way it is, in fact let\'s downgrade to MB to keep people like you happy!
You know what, let\'s make it PlaneIRC in fact. Screw the game, stats, swords and quests, let\'s all sit and chit chat like Draklar and Demarthl
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I think chatting is a lot more fun then \'the game, stats, swords and quests\', as you say. But if you\'re not going to use the world at all, there isn\'t much of a point to role-playing.
If you\'re going to avoid having a conversation with anybody, you\'re either a power-leveller, or missing the whole point of multiplayer.
There\'s plenty of room for everybody, somewhere between IRC and powerlevelling. To me, the world is there to chat about, and to roleplay with. The chat bit is works fine for me, a more detailed world always helps. Whenever I forget to remind myself about this, PlaneShift quickly becomes boring, regardless of whether I\'m at Kada El\'s, or out in the wild.
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Sashok: Don\'t be so singleminded. Planeshift is a ROLEPLAYING game. Chat and roleplay is a massive part of it, whether you can accept it or not. Skills, stats, items and the like, enhance the roleplaying experience. But this is not and never will be a powerlevelers-only experience.
\"You know what, let\'s make it PlaneIRC in fact. Screw the game, stats, swords and quests, let\'s all sit and chit chat like Draklar and Demarthl\"
That is just being unreasonable (to use a neutral word :)).
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Well stated, but even a Roleplaying game does need that extra umph to spice the game up. Im guessing thats all the fighting, magic and such is for.
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You have to read my whole conversation with those fools to understand what\'s going on. I am a big fan of role playing, but those people who try to prove their point for some reason deny that the biggest part of any game is materialistic (items/quests/etc.) Roleplaying is a state of mind, I believe that without the game graphics/environment, roleplaying is harder to come by because people have harder time to sink into the fantasy environment. YES, we need materials to feed our imagination, let\'s say that.
But why talk about the game??? :D
I was talking about forum respect (which I really don\'t care if implemented). I agree with the point that was made, this forum is official and needs to be dull and you know what, that\'s fine.. But don\'t tell me crap that this will corrupt the forum, that it\'s materialistic value, etc.
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Listen sashok, just give the people the respect they need and hopefully they wont get mad at you. Trust me, iv had some dull and rough encounters with people who havnt liked what I said. Them switching from forum respect to anything else is just showing you that they are wrong and they want to raise their self esteem but on the other hand nobody is perfect and theres always room for improvment and help from others. Even those who we think are wrong.