PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Adyna on March 20, 2005, 11:18:07 am
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The PlaneShift Times Issue # 1 Out now :tup:
Find out why PlaneShift is the superior mmorpg :))
There Are Not Only The Drinking Kind Of Spitits At Your Local Inn! 8o
If you feel like pigging-out go to the All-You-Can-Eat Buffet
Black Hole Uncovered When Road to Ojaveda Collapses
Elise\'s Diary - Even if you are a PlaneShift veteran you\'ll not stop chuckling at the adventures of this Hydlla Dweller
Rogues Gallery - Here We Name And Shame! :evil:
The Darkness of Talad, The Story Of How The Darkness Lifted
To subscribe go to http://beam.to/subscribe_ps (http://beam.to/subscribe_ps) and get issue # 1 before we run out of copies :tongue:
**If you have already subscribed and not received your copy or are having difficulties displaying the newspaper please reply in this thread.**
The PlaneShift Times - Legends in the Making
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As I said in the other post:
I must say I really liked the first issue, especially felt proud when you compared PS with EL :P
The diary really made me laugh too :)
And btw, would it be possible to host a site for it too? For those who wants to look at it and decide if they\'re going to subscribe to it?
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Back issues will eventually be put up online ie.
when we get to issue #3 then I\'ll put issue #1 up
when we get to issue #4 then I\'ll put issue #2 up
....and so on
Glad you enjoyed the first issue :))
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oh I didn\'t see this post here I have put up a temperary copy of the first issue untill The PlaneShift Times can Get their back issues in place.
*edit [Link removes at request of Planeshift Times]
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I just skimmed through it...nice...
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Well, Socrates, I\'m sure it will boost their subscriptions...if they approve. If not, The Sheeple Foundation declares war on you. Or even worse...makes you an honorary member.
New sig Androgos? I can see the headlines already:
Hooligans desecrate temple with graffiti.
Hydlaa shocked.
Hydlaa residents were shocked this morning by the disrespectful...
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Hi!
I think it is a really excellent idea and it was really funny and well done.
I was expecting something just \"full RPG\", if I may be honest, but I didn\'t dislike the \"off rpg\" things.
Congratulations!
Ary
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Great work on the first edition, we are in for quite a treat if this is the standard we can expect from future editions! I had never noticed the ghostly denizens of the tavern before, I wonder what the story of that is.. perhaps its built on an old Ylian burial ground, or they are the remnants of Stonebreakers that have perished in huge vats of ale located deep in the ancient cellars, hmm..
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Originally posted by Socrates Demise
oh I didn\'t see this post here I have put up a temperary copy of the first issue untill The PlaneShift Times can Get their back issues in place.
I know your intention was well meaning but please take this down immidiately. Thank you.
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Um I would not go comparing planeshift to runescape-the scape. the scape may not have great graphics but the game play is very good.
Now tell me this if the scape was so bad why they get 80,000 to 90,000 peoples a day playing it!
Now maybe in about 6 years or so you can say planeshift is better. BUT right now it is NOT.
And only dumb asses go on graphics when rating a game! The only thing you should go on when rating a game is the game play and nothing ells.
Saying such bold things dose not make me think very high of you!
And to add. I do not like your news storys. All you are doing is putting down other games. Now how is that a news story?
By the way good graphics dose not make a good game. You can have shit graphics and have a good game!
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Actually Adyna pointed on graphics since it is additional good attribute of
Planeshift. Graphics affects your imagination, it is nothing bad to prefer
the game with the nice graphics above one that has poor graphics, this is
why a child will surely grab a book with a nice pictures on it than a fat,
grey volume of \"Quantum Physics\". Everyone has his own criteria and
there is no need to start the flame war I think.
Regards.
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But it is true? the scape may have bad graphics but the game play is good. And all round it IS a good game.
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I wrote the main article and I don\'t like Runescape and yes I have played it. If you think differently then write a good report and it will go in the next issue. Maybe a good story based on how PlaneScape can become better by adopting this from Runescape and that from Runescape - I\'m sure you get my drift.
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Originally posted by Platyna
Graphics affects your imagination
but in bad way...
no graphics (like reading a novel or playing p&p RPG) is much better for imagination...
Not a valid point.
Also, I have to agree with Soulless_Body. At the time being, RS has much more features and makes a better game than Planeshift.
Also, points for Planeshift are pretty dubious - hundreds of spells? Ability to build houses? Have I missed something?
IMO, it\'s favouritism...
If you don\'t want to make a tabloid out of it, improvement is needed.
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Originally posted by Draklar
Originally posted by Platyna
Graphics affects your imagination
but in bad way...
no graphics (like reading a novel or playing p&p RPG) is much better for imagination...
Not a valid point.
Also, I have to agree with Soulless_Body. At the time being, RS has much more features and makes a better game than Planeshift.
Also, points for Planeshift are pretty dubious - hundreds of spells? Ability to build houses? Have I missed something?
IMO, it\'s favouritism...
If you don\'t want to make a tabloid out of it, improvement is needed.
You read any news report or magazine article and you are reading someone elses point of view, which could also be called favouritism. Which is why I am trying to encourage players of PlaneShift to write articles for The PlaneShift Times.
IMO constructrive critisism is helpful but just complaining about it for the sake of complaining is not.
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Yes that is what i was saying. Planeshift may be a very good game when its done but right now its not even close.
By the way building houses will never happen and we all know this. Ask your self where would they all go? If you hade 100.000 members that would mean 100.000 houses? How can that be? and hundreds of spells? That just pointless? Why would you need hundreds of spells? May have 100 spells but not hundreds of spells?
But i still think planeshit is going to be VERY good game when its done.
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Originally posted by Socrates Demise
oh I didn\'t see this post here I have put up a temperary copy of the first issue untill The PlaneShift Times can Get their back issues in place.
The back-issues will be put in place when we get to issue # 3 so could you please take issue # 1 down, it would be appreciated. Thanks. :]
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But i still think planeshit is going to be VERY good when its done.
errr LOL typo there! 8o
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Originally posted by Adyna
IMO constructrive critisism is helpful but just complaining about it for the sake of complaining is not.
Irony...
While I agree that RS shouldn\'t be compared with PS, Now to compare RuneScape - no, let\'s not go there as it\'s a bit like playing in Toy-Town with Noddy and Big Ears!
wasn\'t very constructive...
On slightly different topic, it kind of bugs me that \"Why PlaneShift Is Clearly The Best\" is explained with an example of EL.
To be considered \"The Best\", PS should at least beat some of the admired mmorpgs... like WoW.
I think a simple review would do better than a comparison with game that very few heard of (Or any game for that matter. After all PS still has lots of bugs and minimal number of features).
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I might point out that keeping the first up there instead of acting like a corporation and making people anxious would be a good form of advertising.
If it\'s really as good as it is, you simply keep the first issue up for three weeks for people to stare in awe at. Maybe longer as historical record.
I haven\'t suscribed because I naturally don\'t trust internet offers. I don\'t fully understand the importance of a mailing list other than to have a headcount.
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the way i understood it was that it was meant to make people react. But noone ever said that the Planeshift\'s Time had to be faithfull toward other games.... After all it is the work of PS fans and i clearly understand why they decide to express how they love their favourite game.... I took a great deal of pleasure of reading it, and look forward to read the 2nd issue.
What about interviewing Guild master about their guild\'s philosophy about why their guild are the best etc (btw for non guild-member, Zelphiriens rocks, others.... arent bad either ;-) )
Keep up the work people!
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Got my copy! And on my birthday too! What a great gift. :D I love the way you twist tells into reports.
*edit* Oh...and Socrates, here is your red shirt. Welcome to the Sheeples. I dub thee, Sir Socrates Demise, Champion of Ishould\'veaskedfirst. ;)
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/me begrudginly takes the red shirt... I would have rather gone to war with the Sheeple :P
I have just returned I will go ahead and take down the first issue.
Adyna: You will still need to change your quote of me to remove that link.
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Originally posted by Socrates Demise
/me begrudginly takes the red shirt... I would have rather gone to war with the Sheeple :P
I have just returned I will go ahead and take down the first issue.
Adyna: You will still need to change your quote of me to remove that link.
Thanks Sir Socrates Demise, Champion of Ishould\'veaskedfirst. ;) Much appreciated :D
Hope there are no bad feelings.
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Why can\'t he host current issues of it? It\'s the only reason I even read it. You won\'t get me signing up to mailing lists, and there\'s plenty of other readers you\'re missing out on too because of this.
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i have to say i really enjoyed the first issue of The Planeshift Times.....keep up the great work....i wait for the next issue :]
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Originally posted by Moogie
Why can\'t he host current issues of it? It\'s the only reason I even read it. You won\'t get me signing up to mailing lists, and there\'s plenty of other readers you\'re missing out on too because of this.
i must agree with this... i mean isn\'t it easier for you as well just to post this stuff on the web.
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Cool I like it. I was not expecting so much content to be truthful. It is also neat that you made up stories of why things happened.. like the darkness being lifted.
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Originally posted by Moogie
Why can\'t he host current issues of it? It\'s the only reason I even read it. You won\'t get me signing up to mailing lists, and there\'s plenty of other readers you\'re missing out on too because of this.
I have said this before but I don\'t mind repeating myself for the benefit of those that didn\'t know:
You are not \'signing up for mailing lists\' . This list is managed by myself and no-one else, no third party is involved and I don\'t use mailing list software. When you receive The PlaneShift Times your email address is put into the Bc: field therefore not even other subscribers know your address.
It doesn\'t involve too much work for me as I update the list regularly in an organised fashion.
This way I can see which issues receive the most members and which issues don\'t - and plan future issues around the ones that were the most popular. This is part of the fun for me of publishing the newspaper.
If you wish to see the copies online only then the first issue will be available when we get to issue # 3.
It\'s entirely up to you 1/ Receive the copies as they are published through email or 2/ Read the back-copies online as they become available.
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I like it! Except for the fact you and your friend where chasing me around while I was killing people and telling them to pay me tria :) . Oh, I also dislike how you said you were going to make me look bad because you hated me, also. But its all good.
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or just ask your guild mates whats in it... or get them to post it in a secure folder on your website and veiw it from there
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Originally posted by Slagle
I like it! Except for the fact you and your friend where chasing me around while I was killing people and telling them to pay me tria :) . Oh, I also dislike how you said you were going to make me look bad because you hated me, also. But its all good.
Sorry I really don\'t know what you\'re talking about - you were in the Tavern last night killing people ;( and yes I take exception to that. Outside, well you can kill all you want to but isn\'t the Tavern supposed to be a safe haven? And yes things like this make good news stories so yes I might write the full story and include the chat log but on the other hand i might not, you\'ll just have to wait and see!! :P
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Originally posted by Adyna
When you receive The PlaneShift Times your email address is put into the Bc: field therefore not even other subscribers know your address.
Originally, this would have been the most important thing to know for me.
However, the insistance on maintaining this as the only distribution channel did very much to put me off.
Originally posted by Adyna
This way I can see which issues receive the most members and which issues don\'t - and plan future issues around the ones that were the most popular. This is part of the fun for me of publishing the newspaper.
This I don\'t understand. From a technical perspective, a website would be equivalently suited for this purpose because you can track visitors to individual pages just as easily as with the mailing list, just differently, i.e., you wouldn\'t count individuals, but number of hits. Both have the same meaning as they are strongly related.
Not only that, in fact, because you can additionally track how often one visitor re-reads a certain page, or even article, giving much finer granularity.
Furthermore, for the website, it\'s more easy to get people to \"just check it out\", this way you would also attract people who are lazy and people who are, like myself, notoriously paranoid, making it actually preferrable to a mailing list from a social perspective.
Originally posted by Adyna
If you wish to see the copies online only then the first issue will be available when we get to issue # 3.
It\'s entirely up to you 1/ Receive the copies as they are published through email or 2/ Read the back-copies online as they become available.
This scheme looks, as has been said, very much like how a corporation works, and I am strongly opposed to it. There is no need to do it this way unless you are planning to eventually charge money, and be it only ingame money. And if you are indeed planning to do that, I see it as, at best, questionable ethics that you aren\'t telling anyone from the beginning.
It is my hope that you are just having fun doing things \"like the professionals do\", but I still think you should reconsider.
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I think this is JUST like a real news paper! EVERY THING IS FAKE! UNREAL! You say bold things with out any proof. If those games are so bad show us a guy you made in them games that are an lvl 40 or 50? Some thing to show us that you REALY tried the games out. Not just looked at them for about 1min.
I\'m shocked that PlaneShift would support such a thing!
All they say is bold UN true stuff!
Now I don\'t find untrue RANTS funny. KEY WORD -RANTS-!
And i know you will say if you do not like it don\'t read it. Witch i will NOT.
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Originally posted by Seytra
Originally posted by Adyna
If you wish to see the copies online only then the first issue will be available when we get to issue # 3.
It\'s entirely up to you 1/ Receive the copies as they are published through email or 2/ Read the back-copies online as they become available.
This scheme looks, as has been said, very much like how a corporation works, and I am strongly opposed to it. There is no need to do it this way unless you are planning to eventually charge money, and be it only ingame money. And if you are indeed planning to do that, I see it as, at best, questionable ethics that you aren\'t telling anyone from the beginning.
It is my hope that you are just having fun doing things \"like the professionals do\", but I still think you should reconsider.
I dont really see how this bears any resemblance to a corporation at all.. are there shareholders and stock floats, staff working for them, do they pay dividends, do they have a board of directors to who the CEO and their staff are accountable, etc ? I dont see money changing hands here, where does the profit motive that drives corporations come into play?
You have the choice to read this or not, subscription is at no cost. If you are worried about spam or viruses being sent to you, then subscribe with an email address that is not your primary one, and learn to use spamassassin, mozilla mail/thunderbird bayesian filters, and so on.
Internet Mailing lists are not exactly a new, untested, and dangerous thing either, they have been around for decades.
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Originally posted by Seytra
This scheme looks, as has been said, very much like how a corporation works, and I am strongly opposed to it. There is no need to do it this way unless you are planning to eventually charge money, and be it only ingame money. And if you are indeed planning to do that, I see it as, at best, questionable ethics that you aren\'t telling anyone from the beginning.
errrr has money out of the game or in-game ever been mentioned? I think not - so therefore I think that you are verging on the side of paranoid. But that\'s your choice.
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Slagle is not getting his newspaper :(
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The above post is another reason to use a webpage rather than email. ;) People will always get it, regardless of their spam filters.
Plus it\'s so primitive to use email. You could do *so* much more with a site.
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yeah use rss feeds....they are the in thing now... web pages with rss feeds....that\'s hip thing nowdays.
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Originally posted by Moogie
The above post is another reason to use a webpage rather than email. ;) People will always get it, regardless of their spam filters.
Plus it\'s so primitive to use email. You could do *so* much more with a site.
Ok Moogie you\'ve won me over :P I will be stting up a web site to put the issues up but please could no one put it up on there site - I want this done properly.
The subsciprion based email will be avalable as before, for this who would prefer to \'have ther own copies\'. Issue one will go up as soon as I\'ve build a site.
Now is every resonably happy :D (apart from Soulless_Body) as I don\'t think any thing could make him happy
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Originally posted by Tharizdun
I dont really see how this bears any resemblance to a corporation at all.. are there shareholders and stock floats, staff working for them, do they pay dividends, do they have a board of directors to who the CEO and their staff are accountable, etc ? I dont see money changing hands here, where does the profit motive that drives corporations come into play?
You might want to read and understand what people write.
Originally posted by Monketh
I might point out that keeping the first up there instead of acting like a corporation and making people anxious would be a good form of advertising.
If it\'s really as good as it is, you simply keep the first issue up for three weeks for people to stare in awe at. Maybe longer as historical record.
As you can clearly see from this and my comment, the resemblance is not in terms of structure, but in terms of how marketing is done by restricting distribution. This is a major fad with corporations these days, as you might have noticed (Fan sites being taken down due to IP warfare and so on), and the request to take down the independantly hosted copy neatly fits in with that new kind of IP \"management\" that corporations love so much.
Originally posted by Tharizdun
You have the choice to read this or not, subscription is at no cost. If you are worried about spam or viruses being sent to you, then subscribe with an email address that is not your primary one, and learn to use spamassassin, mozilla mail/thunderbird bayesian filters, and so on.
I think I have made clear, in the first sentence of my post, that this either are things that I have already taken appropriate action towards, or that they have been cleared up already.
Originally posted by Tharizdun
Internet Mailing lists are not exactly a new, untested, and dangerous thing either, they have been around for decades.
I know this perfectly well. I have a few, very select mailing lists that I am suscribed to, and I also have been active on Usenet. I know a bit about the net.
Originally posted by Adyna
errrr has money out of the game or in-game ever been mentioned? I think not - so therefore I think that you are verging on the side of paranoid. But that\'s your choice.
Yes, I am paranoid, and not just in this respect. :)
Money has not been mentioned, and I did not say otherwise. It\'s simply the striking resemblance of corporate marketing strategies that made me think of ulterior motives. I apologise for I\'ve obviously been wrong.
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i think the plainshift times should be a buyable item in the game or sumthin it would e cool to be able to get in the game and go to the news stand and get a copy for like 5 tria or sumthing