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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Adyna on April 24, 2005, 03:33:41 pm

Title: This is NOT another 'wipe' Thread
Post by: Adyna on April 24, 2005, 03:33:41 pm
This is not another \'The Wipe\' thread so please don\'t turn it into one and please don\'t lock it.  Thanks.

In plain RP language how can the wipe be explained?  How can I put it into a report in The PS Times starting out as a rumour and then eventually when it happens.  Why, what, when, how etc.  Ideas please.
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Post by: Zan on April 24, 2005, 04:34:19 pm
Perhaps some kind of virus that causes massive amnesia? All people experience memory loss and thereby lose their skills.

The money disappearing is a bit tougher though .. an army of thieves marching through Hydlaa?
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Post by: Adyna on April 24, 2005, 04:55:11 pm
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Perhaps some kind of virus that causes massive amnesia? All people experience memory loss and thereby lose their skills.


hmmmm I had thought of something similar to this, and it\'s good because it does explain the loss of skills.  Plus it would also explain why some players will have a different name.  Perhaps I could put in that there had also been another mutation as some players will be changing races.  But an army of thieves at the same time?  hmmmm there\'s got to be something more to link it all in.
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Post by: Kwip on April 24, 2005, 05:14:21 pm
Well it all could be explained by the past four months all being a dream (yes I no it is a tactic used far too often but it could work).  Some untried wizard used fluid of rat eye instead of essense of rat eye and caused the whole region to go into a deep slumber with one collective dream.  Finally Talad noticed the unusual quiet and woke everyone up.

Yes I know very original :D ;)
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Post by: MaidenIndigo on April 24, 2005, 05:14:56 pm
What about something from a religious perspective?

Talad, overcome with the guilt of scarring Laanx\'s beautiful face, made one last attempt at making amends.  He believed that by started all living creatures in Yliakum anew, Laanx would realize that he valued her more than any of his creations.

Laanx, however, felt this was an insult to her work and it drove the two deities further apart.

Or something.  It could be known as \"The Great Offering.\"

/me shrugs.

That\'s just my take on it...it wouldn\'t explain why all the same NPCs are around, though.
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Post by: Adyna on April 24, 2005, 05:49:28 pm
The idea of it being all a dream (although good) reminds me too much of The Matrix or Bobby Ewing coming out of the shower (if anyone remembers that bit in Dallas) :P

If it were a virus we could say that the virus is beginning to spread already, for example Tefusangs and Clackers attacking their own kind.  And NPC\'s repeatedly saying \"I\'m sorry but I do not understand you\" etc.

The religious idea is a good one also.
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Post by: mavrik on April 24, 2005, 06:59:42 pm
how about it being the spell of a very powerful group of mages? The NPC bugs are the mages perfecting the spell that is eventually used to wipe players of there skills etc. A side effect of this spell however is that a person might finds themselves having switched bodies with the person beside them(the race change).

Because this way it is the mages that caused it, they would have looted everybody as well.

Just a thought.
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Post by: Kaseijin on April 24, 2005, 07:02:20 pm
Point of advice if you want to make it more medieval sounding don\'t call it a virus call it a plague. Virus is too modern sounding.
You could combine the plague and the gods idea. For example talad and laanax  disguested by the greed of their people (read power leveling) sent a plague that spread the Yliakum killing all, in hope that this tme the wise ones that survive (the mb people) will be able to carry over their knowledge to the new souls.
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Post by: MaidenIndigo on April 24, 2005, 07:09:00 pm
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You could combine the plague and the gods idea. For example talad and laanax  disguested by the greed of their people (read power leveling) sent a plague that spread the Yliakum killing all...

Exactly what I was thinking.  The people would use religion to explain a scientific truth.  The wrath of the Gods and such.

~Indi
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Post by: XanWing on April 24, 2005, 08:01:04 pm
maybe the azure(or what ever it was) explotion from the inside and a magic wave wiped over the world(like a nuclear thing but not so destructive) and had killed everyone. But some survived and the started resurrecting everyone.
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Post by: Under the moon on April 24, 2005, 08:03:49 pm
*walks into the forum, and shakes the morning dew off his cloak. He hears Adyna\'s question and turns to her, grinning and speaking before the others*

\"I know one way to explain \'The Wipe\'...\"

*the world pulses*

*Walks into the forum slowly, looking around uneasily as Adyna askes her question. He stands quietly as the others speak. He then speaks quietly, his head down, hopelessness painting his face*

\"I could explain \'The Wipe\'...\"

*the world pulses*

*walks into the forum quickly, not looking at anyone as he haeds straight for the bar. He hears Adyna\'s question, but knows she will never have her answer, at least not from him.*

\"Barkeep, something strong...\"

*no pulse. Shakes his head.*

\"Fate has no forgiveness,\" he whispers to the worn planks of the bar.
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Post by: MaidenIndigo on April 24, 2005, 08:10:54 pm
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maybe the azure(or what ever it was) explotion from the inside and a magic wave wiped over the world(like a nuclear thing but not so destructive) and had killed everyone.

Perhaps something less desctructive than that -- remember the maps will stay the same and everything.  If everyone and everything got explodinated, who would rebuild Hydlaa Plaza? =D

Plus if the Crystal got destroyed, Yliakum would just be a big dead rock.

Unless you mean something similar to a solar flare (maybe the planet\'s sun had some kind of chaotic solar event that was amplified by the Crystal and wiped out the populous, leaving inanimate objects intact?)

/me tries to control her imagination. XD

~Indi
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Post by: XanWing on April 24, 2005, 08:14:25 pm
no I said everyone not everything. All ppl die, nothing else happens.
Title: Thanks everyone
Post by: Adyna on April 24, 2005, 10:02:34 pm
Well thanks everyone, I\'ve taken everyone\'s suggestions and come up with a Plague story with a religious/magical twist.  As I said thanks to everyone as I couldn\'t have done it without your help, but don\'t let me stop you now - let your imagination run riot :)
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Post by: fken on April 24, 2005, 10:08:41 pm
maybe simply a dream... a dream were we all meet us...
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on April 25, 2005, 02:21:52 am
How about \"The apocalipse of new beginings\"  :D
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Post by: Keyaz on April 25, 2005, 03:03:41 am
in Talad\'s depression and Dismay of utterly ruining the relationship between him and Laanx he feels he does not desrve to overlook such a creation and aims to destroy it all,
but with the ample persuasion and suggestion form his underling Demi-gods that work between him and the people of the realm, decides to replace what he destroys with anew fresh start, persuing to be a better God

that would cover, skill loss, money loss, name loss, player loss etc. :D

buuuut, you would have to consult Talad on this i guess, it IS a big story ;) why not give him a PM in irc Adyna :)
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Post by: Cyrus Arckum on April 25, 2005, 03:11:22 am
You could say that the disaperance of Ojaveda and the road to it was a warning that we have enraged the gods and that the Yliakum ios now crumbling. Then Laanx decides that wasn\'t a good idea and starts it anew.
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Post by: Under the moon on April 25, 2005, 07:19:02 am
I just remembered that I wrote this ->The Sixth Epoch (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=15883&boardid=15&styleid=3&sid=576bc5d394be423ef3f1f6e7911efcce)

You could use and change it, or I could modify it to your liking. Or I could write something completely different.

*edit* And finish it when the time is right.

@DF> Come now, have a little fun with this. The \'Wipe\' is a once (they hope) in PS occurrence. Of course it should be RPed. Rumors of something dark coming, the end of days, no power to stop it. That sounds like the best RP I\'ve heard in quite a while.
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Post by: dfryer on April 25, 2005, 07:27:03 am
I see little need to RP the wipe - the only thing that really \"exists\" are the characters you have created, and they can be re-created just as easily, as if nothing had ever happened.  Just my opinion, though, you\'re free to make of it what you want :)
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Post by: ajdaha on April 25, 2005, 02:17:52 pm
I know, you don\'t explain why every addition through update occurs, do you?
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Post by: Kaseijin on April 25, 2005, 04:47:25 pm
people are just having fun. I think it\'s fun turning real life game related events into rp events. Like the ojaveda road thing or like the darkness bug. I do rp some updates, when the armorer near the exit from hydlaa began selling armor, i rp-ed by saying he got a shipment of new armor or something like that.

by turning such events you get an interesting yliakum history sometimes more interesting then you would by making things up. As they say life is stranger than fiction ;)
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Post by: Kiramon on April 25, 2005, 04:51:48 pm
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I know, you don\'t explain why every addition through update occurs, do you?


There is a little difference between the regular updates and the wipe don\'t you think?

But sure I look forward to readin Adyna\'s (or whoever it is that writes it) story, explaining the wipe - after all PS is encouraging RP is it not? ;)
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Post by: Zan on April 25, 2005, 10:54:58 pm
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Originally posted by Kaseijin
Point of advice if you want to make it more medieval sounding don\'t call it a virus call it a plague. Virus is too modern sounding.


Yes, good point .. sorry .. I just work with them on a nearly daily basis.
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Post by: ajdaha on April 26, 2005, 10:17:37 am
\"There is a little difference between the regular updates and the wipe don\'t you think? \"

Do you expect me to agree?...
I don\'t think there is a difference. I mean, the player gets his memory wiped, a new moster appears here and there. Its all the same.

Edit - When is this wipe happening, I can\'t wait anymore.

(no need to respond, just venting inner feelings)
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Post by: Adyna on April 26, 2005, 11:30:21 am
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Come now, have a little fun with this. The \'Wipe\' is a once (they hope) in PS occurrence. Of course it should be RPed. Rumors of something dark coming, the end of days, no power to stop it. That sounds like the best RP I\'ve heard in quite a while.


I quite agree, it is a golden opportunity to add something really big to our \'unofficial history\'.  To just ignore it and pretend it never happened would be just ludicrous.
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Post by: Under the moon on April 26, 2005, 11:39:11 am
And my offer?
*points to the post you got that quote from*
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Post by: Lordbug on April 26, 2005, 03:30:01 pm
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I see little need to RP the wipe - the only thing that really \"exists\" are the characters you have created, and they can be re-created just as easily, as if nothing had ever happened.  Just my opinion, though, you\'re free to make of it what you want :)

It\'s for the PS Times [right Adyna?], so there\'s the need of RPing it :P

Till now Kwip\'s idea seemed the best, in my opinion.

Or group of  mage-scientists made a clock that is able to change time to their liking and in a testing they were making they changed the time to the bigining. The scientists had some devices to keep the memory, but by reseting the time to a date the stuff that didn\'t yet happen (like learning skills and all that) they don\'t have it yet.
Many \"Time resets\" may have happened without we taking notice of it.
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Post by: Lyrah on April 27, 2005, 07:07:24 am
I like the solution that Star Trek uses for any story thread or time line incongruity...spacial anomoly. Think about it, the planet is traveling through space, hits a time rift and POP...we are all back to the start of our lives...with nothing (since we never went out and got anything to begin with...in this time line anyway).

Yes, the gods got mad at us, a plague raged...whatever...or the rats finally got their time in the lime light and we got our come upance.

I think the wrath of the gods/plague thing sound most probable in midevil setting.  Since a plague would not really kill player/testers...we would just be reborn (remade after the wipe) without anything to call our own.
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Post by: Lordbug on April 28, 2005, 03:28:28 pm
The time changing clock is the best I think :P It\'s my idea :D

Anyway, the clock survives the time resets, so if the devs need to make another wipe we could use the clock again :P

Adyna hurry with the issue!!!

Oh, btw nice website skin :D it\'s much better now :)
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Post by: dimaq on May 01, 2005, 11:52:19 am
How about \"everyone died\"?

then if you expect someone to play after the wipe, you could say that children survived, and here we are NN years later with all the inexperienced chars!
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Post by: ajdaha on May 01, 2005, 03:54:37 pm
How about, \"WhenTF\" is the wipe!!

(Again, no need to respond, unless you want to.)
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Post by: MaidenIndigo on May 01, 2005, 04:55:05 pm
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How about, \"WhenTF\" is the wipe!!

(Again, no need to respond, unless you want to.)

~Indi
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Post by: Adyna on May 01, 2005, 05:34:34 pm
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The time changing clock is the best I think :P It\'s my idea :D

Anyway, the clock survives the time resets, so if the devs need to make another wipe we could use the clock again :P

Adyna hurry with the issue!!!

Oh, btw nice website skin :D it\'s much better now :)


Well I hope \'The Wipe\' story was worth waiting for :P
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Post by: ajdaha on May 01, 2005, 09:33:14 pm
I know, I posted this before. But, I felt the need to do it again.
Is that really so wrong?
: )