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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: anogro on May 01, 2005, 06:52:58 pm

Title: Diablo Monsters
Post by: anogro on May 01, 2005, 06:52:58 pm
ranks are
1.scout(begginers of the guild)
2.human archer(to get here you need to find the way into the dungeons)
3.sceleton archer(find your way to me(hint: die))
4.dark elf(hey after this you are much more trustworthy in my dark guild)(to get here find a enemy guild and destroy one of there members)
5.dark knight(to get here you need to have 40 points)(which i give away randomly)
6.dark guard(if any think that to get to this rank is easy try again you need to kill a enemy guild master)
7.diablo child(learn the arts of fire and detruction to get here)
8.child of bhaal(ha if you have played the game baldures gate for pc you know were i got this)(just get 75 points)

those are the ranks

this is an evil guild and we will have a site in order within a month.

This guild was made at the dge of the long lost world of Anogro and only one anagrien is left and made a portal which gave him a coma for a year and he forgot all but his childhood. now he is older and knows that to get to his old ways he needs to join forces with a band of big evil men and women of all kinds and grow stronger.

we will have three bases of operations one in the bottom of the sewers you know that hidden lighted up place another at the top of the towerand another that to know were it is you would have to become a dark guard and then find me.

my goal is to be the best guild out there and destroy the rest.
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Post by: Phinehas on May 01, 2005, 06:57:32 pm
No. Just no. You cannot have a guild in Planeshift that is made from other games such as Diablo and Baldur\'s Gate. No, no, no.
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Post by: anogro on May 01, 2005, 07:01:48 pm
no not that it just has the name of that nothing else
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Post by: buddha on May 01, 2005, 07:06:11 pm
I\'m with Phinehas on this one.  Why not play diablo if you want a Diablo environment?  I\'m mean, I\'m all about tolerance, but there are world rules you should respect.

But if you do this anyway, ring me up, I may be able to do you a favor.
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Post by: Phinehas on May 01, 2005, 07:08:37 pm
Even that much is too much. It\'s not a bad idea, and I like the idea of an evil guild, since we have few of those. But try to be more original. Everything is dark this, and dark that. Besides \"Diablo\" really has no meaning in this game, since there\'s no context.
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Post by: anogro on May 01, 2005, 07:09:25 pm
sorry i meant no, not that. it just has the name of those games nothing more


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fine i will change some of it but i would much rather keep it the way it is i will think up some other ranks and name for it ok




Posts merged. Please do not doublepost. -Moogie
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Post by: Zan on May 01, 2005, 07:17:57 pm
How about Diaboli\'s guild? Gets rid of the connection with Diablo and immediately connects it with this game.
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Post by: Phinehas on May 01, 2005, 07:24:09 pm
But then, of course, he\'d have to limit himself to Diaboli\'s.
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Post by: anogro on May 01, 2005, 07:24:58 pm
hey thanks if you want to join and skip to become the new bartoren the highest rank you can


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so i am half diabli myself so who cares




Posts merged. Do not doublepost. -Moogie
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Post by: Cyl on May 01, 2005, 07:40:32 pm
Slowly I can see draklar\'s point.

I am pretty much fed of those \"OMGZ NEW GUILDZZZ!!!ONEONE\"-threads,

Diablo monsters is well, as bad as it gets. No history, no background, heck not even the ranks have any meaning.

I dont want to seem like a party spoiler. But a guild needs more than just \"We are guild so we r0x0r\",

I am not having anything against the guild being called Diablo monsters as long as:
*cools down*

phew, after reading this I got pretty annoyed.
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Post by: Phinehas on May 01, 2005, 07:43:26 pm
Ok, first of all, do some research so you know who you\'re trying to recruit, and secondly, knock off the double posting.

P.S. And pick up some capitalization and grammar at the local corner store.

*Phinehas looks at Cyl with tears in his eyes...*

I\'m... so... proud....
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Post by: Cyl on May 01, 2005, 08:39:43 pm
*Cyl looks at Phinehas*

I know, I know, I am giving my best.
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Post by: Kiern on May 02, 2005, 12:14:20 am
I think you\'re all being a bit harsh.

Tell me you didn\'t laugh when you read his post.  I mean come on, it\'s hilarious.

I think that is worth the pain of having a week-long guild.

Lighten up... :baby:
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Post by: Seytra on May 02, 2005, 12:43:58 am
And here was bashing ELite... :rolleyes:

Don\'t you think that, even if you change the name and ranks, the
- \"backstory\"
- \"bases\"
- rest

are just a tad unoriginal?
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Post by: buddha on May 02, 2005, 12:51:24 am
Self-promoting, I\'d have to say there is a preponderance of Protectors and Perpetrators.  Few of these guilds seemed to original to me.  Worse, you cannot threaten or save Yliakum because you cannot legitimately threaten anyone.  Thus I think all the save/destroy the world guilds are wasting their time, no matter what the back story.

Even the Mercs can\'t find work because there are no wars.  It\'s a great idea, but...

So let me suggest a practical guild: The Beggars.  Okay, sorry to come in and flyer your show, Anogro.
Title: A new Guild? What for?
Post by: idorut on May 02, 2005, 01:38:33 am
I know they add a sense of community and all...But with a total reset of the game coming up soon, it\'s kind of pointless.  And there\'s not a lot of evil deeds you can really do.  Maybe kill steal someone\'s rat, or ummm make faces at the RP\'ers on the plaza.

I\'d join a beggar\'s guild.. Then maybe I could round up enough Trias to buy a sword and train my skill so I could actually use it.
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Post by: Seytra on May 02, 2005, 01:58:48 am
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Originally posted by idorut
I know they add a sense of community and all...But with a total reset of the game coming up soon, it\'s kind of pointless.  And there\'s not a lot of evil deeds you can really do.

I seriously wonder why people seem to believe that the wipe will have RL impact. It won\'t erase your memory, it also won\'t kill all the people who have chars ingame, delete guilds websites, not even delete their PS installation or chatlogs!

But I guess that\'s because most people have learnt from the commercial MMO\"RP\"Gs to confuse \"MMORPG\" with \"MULARP\" (Multi User Levelling And Ranking Platform).
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Maybe kill steal someone\'s rat, or ummm make faces at the RP\'ers on the plaza.

Apart from the fact that the plaza is one of the places with almost zero RP, these both are OOC. Killstealing even is cheating / exploiting.
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Post by: Cyl on May 02, 2005, 03:44:00 pm
Holy Sep on a stick,

This is really pityfull, first the \"newb archers\" and now this. I am about as annoyed as it gets. The only great guilds I have seen here for long are \"the beggars\" and the \"culture team\".

If there would just be a way of teacing all those newcomers how to RP.

*turns towards anogro, talking very slowly, so that anyone can get the meaning*

The shortage RP means Role Playing.

Role Playing means picking a certain role in a setting and playing it to the bitter end. This person (role) is a inhabitat of the world you are playing in, and he/she should act properly. If you ever want to become a good RP (what I personally doubt) you should be able to totally live out the role you chose, within the game of course. When RPing, you dont create guilds for \"newbs\" or \"because there are no evil guilds\", you create a guild because you want to have it taking over a position of power, and yourself taking with it. A guild is not a group of internet-contacts, or r0x0r guyzzz, a guild is a force. Each guild fights because of some goal. Something that keeps pushing it forwards. For some it may be the wish to rule the world, others may be protecting nature, fighting evil, assasinating for money, earning money or just being a close group of friends who all are specialists and so are relying on each other.

A guild is a source of power, either economical (The Blood Claw inc.), or military (The Dark Empire, Deus ex trucido, The chaotic warriors), a group of specialists (Blitzers, ashes, Dream of the Sarukai, Arcane order), or a religous bond (order of the black rose, the followers of Aliathi(religous organization)).

A guild is not a group with website and forum, a hierachy and so on. A guild is a Source of power in the world of Planeshift, Yliakum.
Title: How bout shut up, thanks?
Post by: idorut on May 02, 2005, 03:56:03 pm
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I seriously wonder why people seem to believe that the wipe will have RL impact. It won\'t erase your memory, it also won\'t kill all the people who have chars ingame, delete guilds websites, not even delete their PS installation or chatlogs!


Because you\'ll be starting all over with a new character who supposedly isn\'t supposed to remember that their last incarnation in the world belonged to Guild X.  You preach about RP like you invented it, yet you can\'t even grasp the concept of it and how it applies to the character wipe!?
 
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Maybe kill steal someone\'s rat, or ummm make faces at the RP\'ers on the plaza.

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Apart from the fact that the plaza is one of the places with almost zero RP, these both are OOC. Killstealing even is cheating / exploiting.


God, do you ever take your finger out of your :cough: ear?  It\'s not OOC unless the person doing it intends it to be.  Hmm kill stealing is exploiting?  I thought exploiting was taking advantage of a bug that works in your favor (i.e a rat that spawns over and over and gives 100% experience each time.  Or going through a certain door that for whatever reason doubles the number of trias in your inventory).  Kill stealing is certainly not an honest practice, but hey, if you\'re RPing an Evil character then nobody is expecting you to be honest now are they?

Yeah, I should have known that one would go right over your head.

Try coming down off your high horse once in a while.
The air must be pretty thin way up there, eh?
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Post by: Cyl on May 02, 2005, 04:50:27 pm
If you dont create a new character you will most likely have your old one. Look all this stat-f*****g is really pointless. You most likely will remember who your character has been and so you can recreate him.

Kill stealing is actually exploiting the fact that others may have less resources. It would be evil to trap an newcomer with a creature he cant handle, but it is just cheap and cheating to exploit the fact that someone others pc is slower.
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Post by: Kiramon on May 02, 2005, 07:23:22 pm
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Kill stealing is certainly not an honest practice, but hey, if you\'re RPing an Evil character then nobody is expecting you to be honest now are they?

Well, there is a little difference between being an idiot/annoying or evil -.-
and well kill stealing is not RP - besides you cannot attack a monster while another is attacking it, nor can you loot a monster another person killed so this is a pretty bad suggestion at being evil :rolleyes:
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Post by: Aiselyn on May 02, 2005, 10:55:49 pm
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Originally posted by idorut
I know they add a sense of community and all...But with a total reset of the game coming up soon, it\'s kind of pointless.  And there\'s not a lot of evil deeds you can really do.  Maybe kill steal someone\'s rat, or ummm make faces at the RP\'ers on the plaza.


In the past day or so I\'ve seen you round up more fights than I have seen in the last two months. In another thread you talk about roleplaying as if it\'s something set in stone, as if it\'s an actual game. Roleplaying is about imagination. I\'d like to see you use your imagination. At least try to use your imagination and see things other people\'s ways before you start changin on in here thinking you know more than anyone else. There\'s always more than one right answer.

...had to get that out of my head. Anyway, for the guild, I don\'t like this concept. There\'s no meat to it at all. It\'s like diablo or rs is coming in here and taking over the game. Please try again and think of something else. Evil is good, but there is so much more you can do with it.

Trust me on this one, I doubt you\'ll receive a lot of respect in this game with a name like that. Sorry.
Title: How about, grow some manners, thanks?
Post by: Seytra on May 02, 2005, 11:22:57 pm
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I seriously wonder why people seem to believe that the wipe will have RL impact. It won\'t erase your memory, it also won\'t kill all the people who have chars ingame, delete guilds websites, not even delete their PS installation or chatlogs!


Because you\'ll be starting all over with a new character who supposedly isn\'t supposed to remember that their last incarnation in the world belonged to Guild X.  You preach about RP like you invented it, yet you can\'t even grasp the concept of it and how it applies to the character wipe!?

Hehe, this is the most stupid thing I\'ve ever heard about the wipe. I\'m impressed. :tup:

I might not have invented RP, but I seem I have much more of a grasp on it than you. :P
The simple and yet obviously hard to comprehend fact is that the wipe does not have anything to  do with RP. It is totally OOC.
The actual impact of the wipe on the chars is marginal. So you need to re-create your char, but in no way is it required to create a different char. The fun part is that many people carried over their chars from MB to CB. This was a wipe as well, but it disn\'t impact RP at all.
Obviously you base your \"understanding\" of RP on stats and stuff like that, so obviously you don\'t know that RP doesn\'t need them if done correctly. They\'re there to keep players in check who don\'t have the strength to limit themselves voluntarily, and to have a means to get the world to interact with the players.
When was the last time you said IRL that you\'re a level 19 forum troll? Would you please tell me your level in english and your attributes?
See, if you \"RP\"\'d a bunch of numbers, then the wipe destroys your char, which isn\'t one in the first place. If you, however, RP a person in a world, then the wipe won\'t affect your RP at all.
The wipe\'s effects will be gone about three weeks after the wipe happened, the powerlevellers will have their stats back in no time.
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Maybe kill steal someone\'s rat, or ummm make faces at the RP\'ers on the plaza.

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Apart from the fact that the plaza is one of the places with almost zero RP, these both are OOC. Killstealing even is cheating / exploiting.

God, do you ever take your finger out of your :cough: ear?  It\'s not OOC unless the person doing it intends it to be.  

Hehe, you\'re really hilarious! So you honestly think that it somehow is RP to talk about a client crash or last weeks soccer match? Intend it to be RP as much as you want: it never will be.
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Hmm kill stealing is exploiting?  I thought exploiting was taking advantage of a bug that works in your favor (i.e a rat that spawns over and over and gives 100% experience each time.  Or going through a certain door that for whatever reason doubles the number of trias in your inventory).  Kill stealing is certainly not an honest practice, but hey, if you\'re RPing an Evil character then nobody is expecting you to be honest now are they?

Well, the fact that you can steal kills is a bug. You can\'t honestly have thought that it was somehow intended to enable that? So it is exactly what you described: using a bug (that killstealing is possible) to gain advantage (stealing the kill). Not hard to comprehend, is it?
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Yeah, I should have known that one would go right over your head.

Try coming down off your high horse once in a while.
The air must be pretty thin way up there, eh?

Hmm, you must have aimed incredibly high, then. However, it would be nice if you actually wouldn\'t start insulting people when they keep tearing apart your flawed arguments. Instead, it would be advisable to try to find better arguments. :D
Insulting people only serves to deter from your points, so even should you make a valid one, it is more likely to be ignored if you don\'t maintain a mature style of discussion. It\'s easy to come over as a troll if you aren\'t careful. :P
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Post by: Phinehas on May 02, 2005, 11:30:38 pm
You know Seytra, I begin to regret the fact that up till now I have not been an avid reader of your posts due to their generally being abnormally long. You have a great deal of sense, and the ability to express it. Good for you!

translated: Give \'em hell.
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Post by: idorut on May 03, 2005, 06:19:48 am
The only thing Seytra has demonstrated is complete ignorance about an Online RPG.

There\'s another thread on the board where people are discussing how to RP the wipe IN GAME.  So obviously it\'s not something I pulled out of my....toe, now is it?

As for RPing not having anything to do with your character\'s actual ability.. is laughable at the very least.  You cannot RP being a wealthy merchant if your pockets are empty.  You can\'t RP a thieving fiend if you\'ve never stolen anything!!  And you can\'t RP a seasoned warrior if you\'ve never been to battle!  Your character\'s abilities have to reflect to some degree what it is you want them to portray in the world.

I like how you take everything I say completely out of context.  Making faces at people is not OOC UNLESS the character doing it intends it to be (and how would you tell anyway? Do you think they would say /me OOC sticks his tongue out at you?) I never said anything about discussions that have no place in the world being RP.  Anyway didn\'t you argue a few posts back that the wipe doesn\'t affect us IRL, now you\'re saying it has no context in the game either?  
I think your neural pathways have a few too many cracks in them.

Pick a side of the fence to crap on, or invest in a shovel.
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Post by: buddha on May 03, 2005, 06:43:08 am
Or hire a day laborer.  Don\'t forget that option.  I\'m available for menial tasks, if you need me.
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Post by: Aiselyn on May 03, 2005, 07:27:27 am
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As for RPing not having anything to do with your character\'s actual ability.. is laughable at the very least.  You cannot RP being a wealthy merchant if your pockets are empty.  You can\'t RP a thieving fiend if you\'ve never stolen anything!!  And you can\'t RP a seasoned warrior if you\'ve never been to battle!  Your character\'s abilities have to reflect to some degree what it is you want them to portray in the world.


I\'ll say it once again. RP is about imagination and has been around long before any game. You can act out being a wealthy merchant even if your pockets aren\'t full. You pretend. Yes, the idea of money in the game will be useful later on, but this is pre-alpha. There are many things that need to be pretend at the moment. A wealthy merchant is likely not going to kill rats or mine, and right now being a merchant is just not feasible if you want to be wealthy (physically speaking).

Now, I don\'t want to jump any furthur with this into this thread. We\'re going off topic as it is. Just try and use your imagination. This game, after all, is not about hard facts.
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Post by: TheRedMonk on May 03, 2005, 12:45:46 pm
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You cannot RP being a wealthy merchant if your pockets are empty. You can\'t RP a thieving fiend if you\'ve never stolen anything!!

I usually try to avoid talking to complete idiots, but I\'ll make an exception for you.

RP:ing a thief is not possible since thieving skills have not been implemented, but thieves should not mourn. They can always become \"sceleton archers\" instead. For that they don\'t need archery skills. As a matter of fact, they don\'t even need to possess a bow; all they need to do is die...

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Post by: Cyl on May 03, 2005, 01:33:32 pm
To this id(-iot)orut:

I am really feeling pity for you, you don\'t seem to have imagination at all. If you never stop f*****g those stats you will never have fun.

Stats are just a tool for imagination. You wont need them to roleplay. Actually I had the best experiences with RPing without stats at all.

You are really pityful, repeating the same words over and over again. \"Killstealing is not exploiting, it\'s being evil!\" wonderful then how about that \"I\'ve gained acces to another account by hacking into his PC and now I am uber rich because I let him give me all his things. Ahh i am so r0x0r.\", it\'s about the same.
Title: Read with your eyes open
Post by: idorut on May 03, 2005, 06:39:17 pm
I only said that kill stealing was not exploiting once, thanks.  

You guys are basing the whole MMORPG genre on this one game that\'s NOT EVEN FINISHED.  I KNOW FULL WELL what skills are/aren\'t implemented into the game.  At this stage in PlaneShift go ahead and pretend whatever you want.  Just stop being hypocrits and acting like people who are just starting the game and testing out what features ARE available are somehow degrading the gameplay value for you.

And generally speaking in RPGs (PlaneShift excluded since IT\'S NOT FREAKING FINISHED) it\'s not wise to portray your character as something if you don\'t have the stats to back it up.  If your character is supposed to be a brave warrior but in reality is only level 1, what happens when someone wants you to join their party and go monster hunting?  You\'d look like a complete fool when your seasoned level 1 warrior doesn\'t even know how to wield his sword!
Keep in mind that most of us who have come to try out the game have played other RPGs before, so we base how we roleplay on what we\'ve experienced in other games.  Maybe y\'all should go play a finished game and see what it\'s like when roleplayers are in the minority and everyone else is just after levels.  Y\'all have just gotten used to having nothing else to do since mining and combat are so completely repetitive that you want to quit after about ten minutes.  Once the game is finished and all the skills and features are implemented you\'ll see how different the focus of the game becomes (any game with PvP quickly becomes a race to level X).



Y\'all can bash me all you want to.  I\'ve probably played upwards of 500 Online RPGs so I\'d like to think I have at least a basic understanding of how they work.  It seems to me most of you who are replying to me like I\'m a complete retard need to gain some perspective.  Step outside of PlaneShift and see what a completed MMORPG is really like.  Just a suggestion .  I\'m sure nothing can compare to this featureless one :rolls eyes:
Title: Speak with your mouth closed
Post by: TheRedMonk on May 03, 2005, 07:17:47 pm
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Keep in mind that most of us who have come to try out the game have played other RPGs before, so we base how we roleplay on what we\'ve experienced in other games.


That is exactly the problem! Most of us take Planeshift for what it is and make the best out of the situation. We are aware that this is not a complete game which is exactly why we do not feel the need to play the game exactly the same way you played your 500 online RPG\'s. This game is in development and thus completely different. This game does not have complete skills, clothes or archers and that is why the need to RP is even greater. Since there is no real way to back up our RP through actions, lots of good RP:ers simply try to make their RP as fair as possible. When I fight with my character in the tavern, I sometimes get beat up, and sometimes beat people up. Working out a balanced system is part of the fun. :)

So your knowledge in Online RPG\'s might come in handy, unless you are too stubborn to listen to what people of this community have to say to you and finally end up on the wrong side of the fence where you are standing right now. Like you said:
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IT\'S NOT FREAKING FINISHED


So stop taking it for a finished game...
Title: Everything seems to be a problem
Post by: idorut on May 03, 2005, 07:39:39 pm
Why does it have to be a problem?  What\'s wrong with new people starting out the game in the only way they know how?  You can\'t expect everyone who downloads the game to fully understand the limitations you\'ll be dealing with once you create your character and enter the world for the first time.  

The point I began arguing (before certain people decided to attack me and therefore led me into a vicious cycle of trying to defend myself) was that Combat is in fact a part of the game, and currently the only way to train your skills and effectively \"test\" the game (which is why it\'s been released, right?  For testing?).  Combat is currently not the main focus of the game for the established players, mostly because of the length of time they\'ve been playing and the lack of new and exciting monsters, areas, and loot.

If PlaneShift is so different from other RPGs, like you say, then why not embrace new players and point them in the right direction instead of flaming them for wondering why they aren\'t more drops, or money, etc.

It seems to me like a lot of you would rather run the new players away than take the time to explain to them what the game is about.  I can\'t count the number of posts on this board where someone has taken the time to reply to a newbie\'s question with \"use the search command!  Or \"Duh, we answered that in Post X or Y\" when it would have taken the same amount of effort to just answer the question.  So much for making people feel welcomed, huh?  By the way, the search feature isn\'t exactly 100% accurate all the time, either.  If you really want to expand the horizons of the game, you\'d treat newbies with just a tad more respect.   Why are they going to respect you (just because you\'ve played the game a long time? Don\'t count on it.) when they\'re snubbed, ridiculed, or outright ignored for asking a simple question?
Title: You are the problem.
Post by: Seytra on May 03, 2005, 10:22:23 pm
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Originally posted by idorut
Why does it have to be a problem?  What\'s wrong with new people starting out the game in the only way they know how?  You can\'t expect everyone who downloads the game to fully understand the limitations you\'ll be dealing with once you create your character and enter the world for the first time.  

Oh yes, we can expect everyone to have
1) read the players guide
2) read the website
3) read the forums, at least 50% of the first page of \"newbie help\", \"general discussion\", \"technical help\" and \"CB bugs\", and all the stickies.
4) know the state PS is in development-wise

I absolutely expect newbies to be familiar with the background, the technical stage of PS and the most basic things that keep being repeated in the forums. By having read the website, they will know that PS is not like the other MMORPGs and thus it can be expected that they either know and agree with it or don\'t show up here.
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The point I began arguing (before certain people decided to attack me and therefore led me into a vicious cycle of trying to defend myself) was that Combat is in fact a part of the game, and currently the only way to train your skills and effectively \"test\" the game (which is why it\'s been released, right?  For testing?).  Combat is currently not the main focus of the game for the established players, mostly because of the length of time they\'ve been playing and the lack of new and exciting monsters, areas, and loot.

Combat is currently far more of the main focus than it will be in the future, and far more than it is intended to be.
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If PlaneShift is so different from other RPGs, like you say, then why not embrace new players and point them in the right direction instead of flaming them for wondering why they aren\'t more drops, or money, etc.

There are lots of new players who don\'t need to be taken by the hand and guided. And some of those who need to are willing to be pointed in the right direction. The remaining ones, like you, simply insist on PS becoming what they are used to from other MMORPGs, and won\'t take the hints.
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It seems to me like a lot of you would rather run the new players away than take the time to explain to them what the game is about.  I can\'t count the number of posts on this board where someone has taken the time to reply to a newbie\'s question with \"use the search command!  Or \"Duh, we answered that in Post X or Y\" when it would have taken the same amount of effort to just answer the question.  So much for making people feel welcomed, huh?

Well, PS\' intended audience are mature people who are interested in testing a very unfinished game, and to do so effectively they need basic skills like the proper use of a forum, technical and social skills. By not bothering to search or skim through at least the stickies and first pages of the boards after havig read the description of the sections, they demonstrate that they don\'t care for the others and the time they waste them by posting repetitive threads. From this it can easily be concluded that they aren\'t interested in helping at all.
These are people who are detrimental to PS, if only by wasting everyone\'s time, so why should we embrace them?
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By the way, the search feature isn\'t exactly 100% accurate all the time, either.

That\'s where skimming the pages comes in. If you get a broad idea of what\'s already posted on, say, pages 1-3 of the board you intend to post in (by reading the thread titles and the occasional thread), you can make sure you don\'t post some of the top repeated things. Also use of common sense will tell if something is likely to have been posted before. Also, use of adequate search terms is important, just like in a websearch.
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If you really want to expand the horizons of the game, you\'d treat newbies with just a tad more respect.   Why are they going to respect you (just because you\'ve played the game a long time? Don\'t count on it.) when they\'re snubbed, ridiculed, or outright ignored for asking a simple question?

Nah. Just look at the constant flow of newbies who come here and get accepted without much (or any) difficulty. However, there also are those who are just too stupid / immature / lazy to fit in / try to integrate themselves properly, and these are those who get flamed and disrespected. There is no need to respect lamers and fools, ever. 8)

As for \"a finished MMORPG is necessarily about grinding, PvP and powerlevelling, and it\'s a good / mandatory thing that RPers are the minority\": this is exactly why you need to leave PS. PS tries to become precisely the opposite: RPers are the majority, levelling and grinding is mild and only second level priority, existing only to supplement and back up RP and to facilitate defined means of interaction with the world. Unless you understand and accept that, PS is the wrong game for you. If you try to move PS away from it\'s intended goal by posting things like the things you post, you can be sure to get bashed over and over again, and rightfully so. Think about advocating Intel on an AMD forum. :rolleyes:

Therefore, if you like other MMORPGs, stick with them, don\'t come to pollute PS. What does it matter if PS is not the 501st on your long list of MMORPGS? :tdown:
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Post by: anogro on May 04, 2005, 06:03:09 am
I know this was a stupid idea from the start thats why i did it to see how many of you would respond. This idea was from my 4th grade from another game. and also i should know if this is posted but the area codes like dr01=sewers does anyone have a complete set of them?
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Post by: Aiselyn on May 04, 2005, 07:19:10 am
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Originally posted by Seytra

Nah. Just look at the constant flow of newbies who come here and get accepted without much (or any) difficulty. However, there also are those who are just too stupid / immature / lazy to fit in / try to integrate themselves properly, and these are those who get flamed and disrespected. There is no need to respect lamers and fools, ever. 8)


Agreed. Humans are generally quite natural at pointing out all of the negatives and inflating those negatives to abnormal sizes. :) The only reason why it seems as though we attack all newbies is because the ones that don\'t look around are posting, and it\'s usually only those ones. I can assure you, there are probably many more who look around here, use search, find what they are looking for, and we don\'t even hear from them.

Same with the ones who read the manuals, and do all of the things they are supposed to do. Basically, we just never hear from the ones who do it right, and usually from the ones who don\'t do it right. It\'s the way life works really. :)


As for codes, I don\'t have anything listed down, but I can try and give you an estimate (also some of the codes may not be the exact spelling ;)...

dr01 = Death Realm
hydlaaplaza = Hydlaa
orange, red, etc = Sewers (various parts depending on the colour
hycorr/hycorr2 = the forest around the magic shop
ojaroad = the land between Hydlaa and Ojaveda
ojapath = the road leading into actually Ojaveda (after that tower...teepee...thingamabob)
Akk-Central = the main part of Akkaio
Akk-East = the warehouse district of Akkaio
laanxdungeon = the dungeon
upper, lower, hall, etc = arena

there\'s a few others, but I just worked for 10 hours and can\'t quite think of anything exact. The tavern/library and magic shop codes should be self-explanatory, as well as the temple. I think other than that there\'s the tower teepee thing as mentioned earlier, the hallway to the arena area, and the tower above the dungeon. I hope that helps a bit anyway. ;)
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Post by: anogro on May 04, 2005, 02:23:48 pm
It does thank you. I am sorry to say that this is my last post here i will still play planeshift but i dont need this thing anymore.
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Post by: Cyl on May 04, 2005, 02:54:37 pm
I\'m fine with that.

Good tips for idorut:


*hears the sarcasm in his own voice and smiles.

Area Codes?

However, I dont have a problem if you start contributing usefull posts, or even show a little RP (@anogro and idorut)
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Post by: Moogie on May 04, 2005, 05:36:33 pm
Thread closed then.


idorut, we don\'t care how many other MMORPGs you\'ve played. The idea here is to be different from them.

You seem to think computer games gave birth to roleplay. I pity you, truely, and I could explain why... but you\'re not worth my time.