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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: shorty13 on May 07, 2005, 04:14:08 am

Title: Steel Blue
Post by: shorty13 on May 07, 2005, 04:14:08 am
Please just answer this in some sort of way besides \"I don\'t know\".

I have heard in a couple posts the mention of Steel Blue and \"when Steel Blue comes out...\".

I was just wondering when it will come out.  Even a relative time is nice (ex. a week, 2 weeks, 6 months, year, 2 years, etc.)

If you noticed, I said \"Please\".
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Post by: acraig on May 07, 2005, 04:18:26 am
As a rough guess I would say maybe end of year.  We are planning updates around once a month so the transition from this to SB will not be as dramatic as the MB-CB transition.
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Post by: WizardsRule on May 07, 2005, 05:19:50 am
I thought it was to come about gradually in the updates?  Or is it all in a single package?  Anyway, what can we expect in it?
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Post by: Keyaz on May 07, 2005, 05:23:20 am
more stuff >.> seriously no one knows half of the happenings, most of it is in Talad\'s head, genious that he is he wants to keep it there until he sees fit, y\'all can enjoy what you just received until then
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Post by: Kepto on May 07, 2005, 07:00:23 am
so i take it that its going to be a whole new download?
 *shakes head and thinks how long a stable linux version took*
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Post by: acraig on May 07, 2005, 08:43:12 am
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Originally posted by Kepto
so i take it that its going to be a whole new download?
 *shakes head and thinks how long a stable linux version took*


What I have in mind for that is to branch the CVS each time we do a montly release.  And I can provide a build/install script that will automagically use this branch and launch the updater to get any graphical updates.  I think this is a better way than providing binaries which we\'ve never really had much luck with.  Also this way we can fix bugs in the branch and linux users will be able to re-run the script and have a better client than the windows people.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on May 07, 2005, 11:01:59 am
That\'s a superb solution! :)
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Post by: shorty13 on May 07, 2005, 04:09:48 pm
thanks for your answer acraig.  I appreciate it :) .

Just something to consider and keep in mind:

I was talking in-game with people the 2 things that people wanted most were:

1) a thieving system.  Some of the people who want it, aren\'t going to be thieves.  They only want it to create a less goody-good world and make more of a balance between good and evil.  (I myself want to be a thief).  
       I wrote an example of how this could work in the wish list in a topic named something like \"player government/theif skills/other stuff\"

2) jobs.  People want jobs so they can make even a small income of money where they don\'t have to kill rats for it.
    Seeing this, I also wrote a topic in the wish list titled \"jobs\".


Just keep this in mind.  I agree and think these would make a great game and world.
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Post by: Gowallo on May 08, 2005, 09:45:42 am
I think Talad is the brains behind the human race, he knows everything!
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Post by: John_Thazer on May 08, 2005, 10:31:11 pm
Wow we actually have some kind of idea about next releas date...:P A bit of improvement from MB -> CB :D Bah! I don\'t trust any of yer! :P
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Post by: Kiern on May 08, 2005, 11:31:19 pm
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Originally posted by John_Thazer
Wow we actually have some kind of idea about next releas date...:P A bit of improvement from MB -> CB :D


There were many release dates for CB... :baby:
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Post by: John_Thazer on May 09, 2005, 12:18:27 am
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Originally posted by Kiern
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Originally posted by John_Thazer
Wow we actually have some kind of idea about next releas date...:P A bit of improvement from MB -> CB :D


There were many release dates for CB... :baby:


Now question will SB follow the foot steps of CB :D
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Post by: Lyrah on May 09, 2005, 11:33:57 pm
I think that the more things that a player has to actually do in game, be it killing a different mob, grouping to kill a bigger mob, crafting, mining, questing etc the less of the crowding around one or two mob types hitting the agro button, then 5 to 15 seconds later hitting the loot button.

I would think that improving the variety of mobs and number of spawns, and either upping loot drops or the values of the items that are dropped, OR lowering the cost on training up, should be a higher priority than thieving or stealth.

Maybe having a larger world would help too, right now most of the game feels like playing in a shoe box.
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on May 10, 2005, 08:23:52 am
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Originally posted by acraig
As a rough guess I would say maybe end of year.  We are planning updates around once a month so the transition from this to SB will not be as dramatic as the MB-CB transition.


Translated into non-dev language: Expect SB around somtime mid 2007. :D
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Post by: Sarrow on May 10, 2005, 04:37:51 pm
Think of SB as a over hyped game with 60% of its build in the dev\'s heads, 10% on coffee napkins, 15% in modeling programs/portfolios, 5% floating/strange places.

As i\'ve heard that SB is being released update after update.. so in a couple of months/years boom we\'re at SB.
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Post by: hitancrias on May 10, 2005, 04:59:26 pm
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Originally posted by Sarrow
Think of SB as a over hyped game with 60% of its build in the dev\'s heads, 10% on coffee napkins, 15% in modeling programs/portfolios, 5% floating/strange places.

Heh, I wonder where the last 10% went. :p
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Post by: Cyl on May 10, 2005, 05:05:06 pm
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Originally posted by hitancrias
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Originally posted by Sarrow
Think of SB as a over hyped game with 60% of its build in the dev\'s heads, 10% on coffee napkins, 15% in modeling programs/portfolios, 5% floating/strange places.

Heh, I wonder where the last 10% went. :p


You dont want to know it.[/COLOR]
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Post by: MaidenIndigo on May 10, 2005, 05:06:43 pm
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Originally posted by hitancrias
Heh, I wonder where the last 10% went. :p

Trying to figure out the percentages ;)

Anyway, just be patient.  Heck, I totally stopped playing MB and only recently returned because of the progress made.  Now that I know a bit more about programming and writing C++ code (before I knew nothing), it\'s more fun seeing the progress and trying to figure out the code that\'s on the CVS than playing the game itself sometimes. :)

~Indi
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Post by: Kwip on May 11, 2005, 01:41:39 am
Ha, some one is asking for dates? They are always inacurate, always.  What you need to be looking for are signs; special signs that will fortell the comming of the new age.  I expect something along the lines of rats riding on player\'s backs and tesufangs born in the image of Xordan, though I could be wrong.
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on May 11, 2005, 01:44:50 am
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Originally posted by hitancrias
Heh, I wonder where the last 10% went. :p

Trying to figure out the percentages ;)

Anyway, just be patient.  Heck, I totally stopped playing MB and only recently returned because of the progress made.  Now that I know a bit more about programming and writing C++ code (before I knew nothing), it\'s more fun seeing the progress and trying to figure out the code that\'s on the CVS than playing the game itself sometimes. :)

~Indi


Did you even play MB? I think you meant cb ther. :)

Oh and I ate the last 10%
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Post by: MaidenIndigo on May 11, 2005, 05:53:13 am
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Originally posted by Efflixi Aduro
Did you even play MB? I think you meant cb ther. :)

I meant MB, as in Molecular Blue. As in running around and doing nothing because I never found any crystals MB. ;)

How could I stop playing CB if I\'m playing it now and posting on the forums? :rolleyes:  After the number of delays with the release of CB, I quit playing for a time.

I\'m more patient now, and delays for SB won\'t sway me.  Be patient and SB will come when the devs are good and ready to release it.

~Indi
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Post by: Sarrow on May 11, 2005, 03:56:49 pm
or maybe its coming one CB update at a time?
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Post by: Cyl on May 11, 2005, 04:32:27 pm
I say again -> 24th of december this year,
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Post by: Marlborough on May 11, 2005, 11:56:09 pm
Any ideas what will come with steel blue?
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Post by: Seytra on May 12, 2005, 12:08:45 am
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Originally posted by Marlborough
Any ideas what will come with steel blue?

A different splash screen. :)
Seriously, it has been said that the trnasition to SB will be through updates to CB, which means that things will be added regularly, until up to one point at which the difference between the current game and the initial CB release is big enough to resemble a new version, which will then be dubbed \"SB\".
So I expect updates of relatively big size to be coming roughly every 1-2 months. One update will say \"splash17.jpg\" amongst other things, at which point you\'ll know SB is there. :)
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on May 12, 2005, 12:55:46 am
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Originally posted by Marlborough
Any ideas what will come with steel blue?


[rant]Who know they might even have the legendary lemur out by then.[/rant]
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Post by: Marlborough on May 12, 2005, 01:18:28 am
When was the concept for Lemurs released.. I don\'t recall it from earlier.