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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: FyreBlade on September 04, 2002, 06:47:48 am
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firstly, do the guilds require u to be on at certain times of the week? because if so, i will not be able to adjsut my schedule to fit. secondly, r there any good-aligned or neutral/good guilds out there (otros doesn\'t count, i don\'t consider anarchists good, no offense) ?
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Check out the order of the blade (theres a link in my sig). We started out, aiming to be hitmen, but as there will be no PK in the game, we are no longer an evil guild.
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theres a list here http://www.thebbb.tk
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we dont require ne time per week, and we are neutral :)) join one of the oldest guilds in planeshift, the Ryuu Warriors... http://www.ryuuwarriors.tk
send me a pm or email if ur interested
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i dont think most of the guild have certain times your supposed to be on, seeing as how there is no game yet, i guess as long as they see you around every once in a while and reply to emails is good enough for just about any guild
and, actually there are a lot of neutral/good guilds, they just dont advertise as much as the others :D
if looking for something to belong to, but dont really want to have to do anything (or even if you do!) you might want to check out The BISM (http://bism.levillage.org) its not a guild, but an organization and once you join its up to you how active you want to be, there are some problems with the site at the moment, but you can still get the info about it in the about section, if interested email me at ohthatguykiern@hotmail.com
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ok thnx for replies. kendrick, i already saw the list, but it doesn\'t mention alignments. secondly, to the order of the blade and to ryuu warriors. can u guys plz give me a rundown of important info about ur guild (i.e. especially goals, objectives, rules, etc., anything else u think i should know)
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Yes FyreBlade, join the good guys... more targets for me to hunt... mwhuhaha
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hehe *wink* this \"target\" will hit back.
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Well, we are not good, nor neutral, but we are lawfull evil, or whatever you want to call that, maybe evil to a certain extent.....
P.S. Hel Malkai, i see you you took my advice, and registered, welcome to PS by the way. :D
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I KILL YOU! Backstab then some dark spellcasting and FyreBlade drops to the floor.
P.S. Aye, welcome to PS I am. Thanks.
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u don\'t know the kind of character i\'d play. i\'d probably be hiding in shadow, which means u can\'t see me. *sigh* i see my request for more info has been buried under a bunch of other posts. i well, i guess i\'ll ask again. to the order of the blade and to ryuu warriors. can u guys plz give me a rundown of important info about ur guild (i.e. especially goals, objectives, rules, etc., anything else u think i should know)
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As I said before, we initially wanted to be hitmen, but have now relized that that is not possible.
We are still undecided on our main objective, but we have a few ideas.
There is no need to be on at a certain time (I\'m pretty sure thats the same with every guild).
We currently have about 7 or 8 members and are looking to grow.
If you have any questions, come over to our forums (http://theorder.suddenlaunch.com/index.cgi) for a chat :)
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Being a member of the high council of the Ryuu Warriors I will answer your question.
As a neutral guild, we accept members from any race and alignment. Our ideals and rules are yet to be defined (I am working on that ;)), but they are along the lines of defending what we consider fair and declaring war on those who oppose us. Still, since our goals are not so clear, we do not have enemies or allies yet (but we will be accepting every kind of guild as allies, be them good, evil neutral, chaotic, lawful, etc, due to our neutral nature).
We do not discriminate between mages or fighters, every style of character is allowed. The rank system (which is almost finished, I only need to work out some details) will be rather strict, with a very defined hierarchic (sp) structure, allowing promotions only if the Council agrees the member is worthy enough to be of a higher rank. Of course, our leader, Cyonamie, has the final word.
About the background story and beliefs, I cannot give you more information about those issues because we simply have not tackled them yet, but being it a neutral guild, you will be sure it will not be based on the \"goody-two-shoes\" (Aelya\'s expression ;)) kind of guild, defending good, fighting evil. Nor will it be a dark, bloodthirsty or demonic guild...alright, I was a bit extremist here, but you get the message.
Anyway, I hope you get a clearer idea of who we are and what we plan to do with our guild.
- Golbez
Dragon Lord of the Ryuu Warriors
(I like the way it sounds :))
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hmmmmmm, ok. let\'s try this. i\'ll give a scenario, and u two (TOB and RW) plz tell me what ur guild would do. some slavers come to u and offer $2000 gold pieces if u\'ll storm a keep, take as many slaves as you can, and kill everyone else. then, someone else comes to u with $1000-1500 with a mission to defend the keep then storm the slaver hideout and rescue any slaves they are holding. which mission do u take? (ur only allowed one mission, plz i want honest answers on this)
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Our guild would hold a vote.
I, as a member of the high council, would take the first offer, because it came first and has greater rewards. This does not mean that I would always take the more \"evil\" option.
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Well, first, there would be a meeting to decide which action to take. The High Council has the higher priority, although all the members that are outside of it can give their opinion too. The Shogun, Cyonamie, will give the final opinion. So, the actions the guild will take are dependant on the desires of the members. Nevertheless, if they contradict the beliefs of the organisation (yes I know, we don\'t have those yet, but we will), even if the majority is in favor of that determinated action, it won\'t take place.
We are aware there will be a conflict between the evil and good members of our guild, that is the challenge of every neutral guild, I guess. The offer we would accept, if any at all, would be the one the majority chooses. I am considering, however, in letting the members choose between accepting the orders or not, depending on their allignement, but I have to discuss this with cyo after I\'m done with my work.
So, in conclusion (and to stop rambling on), there is no way we can predict the next move we will make. Our guild, although unpredictable, will be very dynamic, and i think it adds a lot to the role-playing experience. However, all this I have said might change, as it has not yet been seriously discussed by the members of the guild.
Personally, as a consequence of my character\'s nature (neutral, tending to evil, but not for this choosing the most evil option all the time), I would probably take the second offer. Slavery is not one of his ideals ;)
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As being leader, calling a meeting would be a must, but as to my opinion, I would deny both. It is no business of ours with these slaves. Staying out of affairs that have nothing to do with us is, what a neutral guild does. If it holds a benifit of gaining respect of one, and losing that of another, it is not worth it. Although, if a slave within these were a friend, or an ally, we would take upon the task of rescuing, for we get a benifit from it that way. And if it later causes war, so be it, but now we would have more allies along side us. (perhaps more enemys too)
Cyonamie
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(and to stop rambling on),
about time..
lol j/k
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ok. thnx very much to both guilds. the answers sound quite similar, but i can see some differences. i\'ll have to think about this. i\'ll post back here when i decide who i want to join. (btw, there are no pure, all out GOOD guilds? though neutral might be a better choice)
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See what I mean with the difference of opinion between the members of a neutral guild?
Cyo refuses to take action unless an ally is involved. I, on the other hand, would accept one of the missions for the profit we would get out of it. As you can see, I am more of a mercenary, while Cyo stands up more for his own beliefs.
I am sure some other members would have chosen to support the slavers, or to destroy them, basing on their own ideals. So, since the guild is so heterogeneus, we will also have to consider how to create a system that equallyrepresents the different \"factions\" of the guild (I do not know if it is the correct term, I just couldn\'t think of a better word).
***Rambling Mode OFF*** :P
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there used to be alot, but their mostly all dead now
the dwarven army was, but gion closed that
the only one i think of is yanrk\'s mirth guild, but then again, that might be neutral
jeez your right, they\'ve all be closed now 8o
someone make a good guild!
oh yea, azure order is good but i dont think their accepting new members
and isnt gdc? or are they neutral? they arent accepting either though anyways
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lol
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As an outside party, i would ask for double the money from both side, and half upfront. Than as the money is brought, i would KILL THEM ALL, and keep the money from both parties, in total equaling 1.5-2k, and doing less work, as well as losing less man, and respect of one of the parties. :D jk
If you take opinions, i would recomend RW, since i have known both Golbez and Cyo for a bit now, and they are well known both on the PS boards, IRC, and Kada\'s tavern. I give them (http://216.40.241.68/otn/ez/pi_thumbsup.gif)
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And that is why that guy is my leader :D
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Alucard is right, Ryuu Warriors is definatly a good guild to look at
and i think this would be the point where one would usually make fun of their name, but we cant now that they changed it and their name is good now so.... :D
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Originally posted by Kiern
Alucard is right, Ryuu Warriors is definatly a good guild to look at
and i think this would be the point where one would usually make fun of their name, but we cant now that they changed it and their name is good now so.... :D
omg until i saw that post i thought thegeneral was talking abut the rogue warriors...i was ready to slap some sense into you :D good thing i saw that lmao
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well, i had just about decided on Ryuu Warriors anyway, but this confirms it. thnx for all the feedback everyone. sorry silverblade and the rest of TOB, but thnx for giving me the info. to any of RW, how do i join?
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Simply Request Joining, through a private message, or email. You are in though. we have a channel on the planeshift server planeshift.ath.cx and #ryuuwarriors
if u have AIM, YIM, or MSN send it in a pm, it makes contacting much faster
Well thats it, and welcome to the Ryuu Warriors
Cyonamie
Shogun of The Ryuu Warriors
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Originally posted by Alucard
If you take opinions, i would recomend RW, since i have known both Golbez and Cyo for a bit now, and they are well known both on the PS boards, IRC, and Kada\'s tavern. I give them (http://216.40.241.68/otn/ez/pi_thumbsup.gif)
:D Thanks for the support Alucard :D
It is nice to see you have chosen us, Fyreblade. I noticed you found your way to our guild forum ;). Anyway, welcome, and I hope you enjoy being one of our members.
Princess Aelya: Ummmm...I had already thought about that. When somebody says \"RW\", they think about Rogue Warriors Two, not Ryuu Warriors. Perhaps we should call them \"RW2\"? I hope this doesnt ruin our reputation...:p
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Wooo, a new member for the Ryuu Warriors :D About time you started recruiting a few more Cyo ;)
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Although it seems a little bit late now, my guild The Order Of The Hand is still going strong (or something like that), it\'s really old (from the forum before this), we are aiming at being as good as possible and we are really short in members...
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Darn it! i missed it! ;(
Never mind :)
Jus to let you know MIrth Guild is ALL OUT GOOD, and very HAPPY!
but i guess it\'s too late now, but if you want to check it out, the link is under my sig
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lol u two. yes it is a little late. i have already joined Ryuu Warriors :D .
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and im glad u did join us :))
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nuts! lost another one X(
heh ;)
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well, i need to post this somewhere and i guess this thread is as good as any because this is where i started. i am leaving Ryuu Warriors, through no fault of theirs. i still highly respect cyo and golbez, but i don\'t want to be part of a guild until the game becomes active and i can evaluate which is right for me. basically, i had a bad experience in another game where i joined a clan without fully evaluating them, and it turned out to be a disaster. the clan was totally different from what i had expected. so after the game comes up (to the point we can actually do anything useful) i will probably join a guild, it may be Ryuu Warriors again, it may not. i don\'t know. this post may seem self-centered (as i\'m just talking about myself) but i just don\'t want to try to enter a guild and have the members go \"hey, aren\'t you already part of a guild\" so i\'m just making this clear.
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I totally understand and respect your decision Fyre, although it really is a shame to lose one of our most active members (if not, the most active one). If you wish to return or not, it is your choice. We will not force you or hold anything against you for leaving the guild.
In fact, I am evaluating my position as a guild member as well. I don\'t think it will suit my character nor my playing style. But right now, there is a 50-50 chance of leaving or staying (I already talked to Cyo about this) If I do leave, I don\'t think I will join any guild at all. Or at least I don\'t plan on joining any of the current guilds as they are. It is probably too early for a guild to be created right now, but hey, it provides us of something to do while we wait for the next release, right?
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I guess i should put in my word too, Fyre contacted me earlier about this, and yes i guess it is a good time to say the guild may be closing its doors soon. But hey its not like hes goin anywhere :P, c ya around teh game fyre
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closing your doors? damn that sucks cyo, well good luck to ya\'z anyways :P
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Honestly speaking, the guild is not doing very well. We will try our best to prevent it from disappearing, but I guess we have reached a point where there are more reasons to close it than to keep going, and trying to keep a guild where contact with the members has been lost (completely, I would say) is very frustrating.
I had some ideas for the guild, which I personally think the members would have found interesting, like a detailed background, beliefs in which the actions of the guild are strongly based, among others. I never had the time to finish all of this, and right now I\'m going through pretty busy times so going about all this stuff is out of the question. But if it had been completed on time, it could have attracted many new people and probably the guild would still be running strong. So I take my share of responsability in all of this.
Only time will tell whether the guild survives or not. I sincerely think it is more likely to close for good, but that is only my opinion. In any case, I am still considering my choices, and I find playing as a lonely mercenary an appealing idea, so if by chance the Ryuu Warriors continue with their doors open, you probably won\'t find me there.
I\'m going to stop boring people now. I guess it\'s too late, though.
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Originally posted by Golbez
Honestly speaking, the guild is not doing very well
I\'m afraid I disagree totally, you have the makings of a great guild on your hands. Even if it\'s just you and Cyo for the moment, you already have a guild with history and a guild that is recomended and respected by peope - let\'s not forget that it is very early days and any guild is going to be faced with the problem of having nothing really to do and people who come here, join a guild, then after a couple of months get bored and we never see them again - don\'t get discouraged by it.
Don\'t worry about time for completing your ideas, you have a solid web site and any extras will be a bonus, but you\'ve got plenty of time to work gradually. Go ahead with your ideas, they will only strengthen your position, and when some form of a game arrives people will be eager to join you ;)
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Thanks for your support Kada ;)
I didn\'t want to make it sound like I am giving up on the guild, because that isn\'t true. Of course I will try to help as much as I can, I wouldn\'t like to see this guild closing. We are only saying there is a possibility of that happening. I don\'t see a solid guild right now, we will work on that, and try to improve our situation.
I\'m not a person that walks away from problems. It is just that I am not as interested in being involved with a guild as much as before, I don\'t have as much time in my hands anymore, and there are a couple of other reasons you don\'t need to know :P
I can only promise you that we will try our best to keep this guild alive
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Well Kada I know I shouldnt leave the guild so early, but I am leaving it up to Golbez really if the guild keeps going or not. Yeah I am the leader, but he was the one that ran things behind the scenes and always helped me, I\'ve always said we shared it 50/50, and he did more than he needed, while I slacked :-/. Running the guild does not appeal as much to me now, and if it closes its doors, it closes for good, I dont want a rw3 running around ;). Sorry Golbez that I leave the guilds fate up to you, but the guild couldn\'t have gone so far without ya :P
-Cyo
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golbez, cyo, u guys don\'t have to give up on the guild. when the game comes up, i believe that many members will probably come back and be in contact with you two. i just left because i felt it would be better if i observed many guilds instead of making assumptions and making them wrong. even though i don\'t think RW will be anything like the one that ended up going bad, i just decided to wait and see. in the short time i was with the guild (and talking to you two) it seems that you both have built a solid base for RW and can continue to do so. u both have the right leadership qualities and ideas. so no matter what you decide, i wish you good luck with the Ryuu Warriors, whether i\'m in it or not.
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hi fyreblade i was wonderin bout guild how do i create one better yet are you making a guild can i join??
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Hey guys.
To tell you the truth, i have also thought about closing, or changing the ways of Hellsing.
I know i have not been around much anymore, and i have lost COMPLETE contact with people i used to know, except for the few. But yeah, the thought has crossed my mind. It just seems like a hassle right now, with everything else around, and updating the site became a task, rather than a fun thing to do.
But than i gave it some more thought, and decided, nah. :D I mean, as Kada said, there is a history behind guilds right now, and throwing away all the things that we, those that helped like Horus for exp., have done would be disrespectfull.
Has flashbacks of the moments.....*cries*.....*cries again* ;( Those were the days...
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Originally posted by Diablo
hi fyreblade i was wonderin bout guild how do i create one better yet are you making a guild can i join??
to create a guild, u decide what kind of guild u want (objectives, alignment, etc.) and post it on these boards. u might want a webpage and forums to be able to communicate. second, no i am not making a guild. i did not leave the Ryuu Warriors to create a guild. i have already explained my reasons for leaving in my last two posts and i do not feel like doing so again. plus the fact that i just do not like leading. i prefer being a loyal member of a guild than being a leader.
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I like to organize things, it keeps me interested...i bet if I didnt have The BISM i woulda been gone months ago
as for guilds, as long as your active and update a lot you\'ll get members, and your current members will remain active, i know its true..my members are very active (well, for right now anyways ;) ) its also because we reward active members
otherwise you\'ll end up being the only member, so if your not able to do that, get someone else to do it for you :P
as for closing down your guilds i think ya should stick around til at least the next release, it will bring lots of more people :D
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Yeah thats a good point. Wait until the next release, it will bring more people.
btw, at this stage of the game, there is nothing wrong with being an inactive guild for a while.
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I think its pretty admirable for guilds to exist for a game thats not even beta yet.
If you get bored of running the guild... I suggest just going inactive for a while.
Its not as if youll lose a lot of potential members, as there is not a great surge of people dying to join th PS fan base yet.
In the end all it comes down to is waiting for the next release .... the after you guys get bored with that the release after and so forth and so on.
If you stop frequenting the PS community Im quite sure no one will hold it against you