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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Kada-El on September 13, 2002, 12:30:44 am

Title: Tavern update
Post by: Kada-El on September 13, 2002, 12:30:44 am
As you all seem to be in guild update mode and people have said I need to publicise some things more, I thought I\'d join in and give you a little update.

Firstly, as this is the guild board - the tavern guild list. I have taken dramatic steps to reduce the guild list to only list those guilds which I see as being active or people who still roam these parts. Please let me know if I have mistakenly removed your guild.

Also if anyone has a better idea of how to list the guilds, I would love to hear it. At the moment they are just listed in the order I added them. Maybe by allignment or in order of number of members.

The other thing is really just to publicise the Fan Art Gallery. All pics are now thumbnailed for ease of browsing. Take a look in the \'Extras\' section, there\'s some great work. All contributions greatfully received. Email me if you would like to see your artistic creations appear there (kada_el@hotmail.com).

That\'s all for now really. Drop by the forum for a drink sometime :D

Oh yeah...click the link under my sig ;)
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Post by: White Dust on September 22, 2002, 07:27:21 pm
I think the guild list is good this way, I don\'t think alignment based is a good idea (when is something good or evil ;)).
The oldest guild should have the most respect, atleast that is what I think :)

ps. when will the bbb forums be up again ;)
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Post by: FyreBlade on September 22, 2002, 07:36:32 pm
or maybe u should leave it the way it is, and just add guild alignments next to them as additional info.
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Post by: Cyonamie on September 22, 2002, 07:56:53 pm
i agree with white dust on the older guilds get more respect ;)
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Post by: Cthulu on September 22, 2002, 08:01:36 pm
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Originally posted by White Dust
I don\'t think alignment based is a good idea (when is something good or evil ;))


Well, we are good...and say Dark Empire is evil...pretty black and white there Old Chap. Anyway, the current listing is fine, but adding the alignment next to the guild would be a good idea and i am also curious as to when the BBB forums will be back up, there is much propaganda to spread.
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Post by: White Dust on September 23, 2002, 05:27:16 pm
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Originally posted by Cthulu
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Originally posted by White Dust
I don\'t think alignment based is a good idea (when is something good or evil ;))


Well, we are good...and say Dark Empire is evil...pretty black and white there Old Chap.


(Hey, a discussion :P)
Alright, lets say that you are \"good\" and they are \"evil\", so, good and evil fight against one another and then a \"good\" person kills an \"evil\" person... does that make killing good  ?(  ;)
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Post by: Princess Aelya on September 24, 2002, 04:49:15 am
ill answer that. they justify things like that by calling the deed a \"neccesary evil\". but in truth, an evil act is an evil act, regardless of who does it or why they do it. just as a lie is a lie.
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Post by: Xolon on September 24, 2002, 07:44:01 am
what makes you or your guild good?

guilds with a \'evil\' aligment may murder whole villages. They think their doing a \'good job\' and finds themslef on the right side.

However Paladins who are \'extremly good\' from aligment think this is really bad.

So its just how u look at the situation of good and bad :)
what i think is good, u might think is bad...

(well that can make a discussing interrested :] )

-Xolon-
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Post by: Cthulu on September 24, 2002, 07:52:49 am
Acctually what it comes down to is that i am good, and i am always right, sorry  :(
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Post by: Cthulu on September 24, 2002, 04:18:55 pm
Forum is dumb
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Post by: White Dust on September 24, 2002, 09:29:48 pm
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Originally posted by Xolon
what makes you or your guild good?

guilds with a \'evil\' aligment may murder whole villages. They think their doing a \'good job\' and finds themslef on the right side.

However Paladins who are \'extremly good\' from aligment think this is really bad.

So its just how u look at the situation of good and bad :)
what i think is good, u might think is bad...

(well that can make a discussing interrested :] )

-Xolon-


Hey, fellow dutchman, I must agree with you the whole way :D
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Post by: Xolon on September 25, 2002, 07:40:00 am
some1 who agrees with me...w00t!  :D

-Xolon-
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Post by: elKano on September 25, 2002, 05:01:08 pm
Not hard to agree with something so logical... well, that means I agree too.
Generally, it is what the majority of people think that determines the accepted thing (and here, your alignment). But what is really important is what you feel. If you feel you are doing good, you probably are.
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Post by: Chubbs on September 27, 2002, 02:04:56 am
I think you should list by oldest, and the one with the most frequent and coolest updates :)
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Post by: Funhouse on September 27, 2002, 02:47:50 am
how would you define \"cool\" updates?


also, aren\'t they already listed by age?
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Post by: Cyonamie on September 27, 2002, 10:47:42 pm
chubbs has awesome updates, and nice drawings too :D :) :P :))  :rolleyes:   8)  ?(
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Post by: Kada-El on September 27, 2002, 11:52:41 pm
Thanks for the feedback, I\'ll try adding extra info like allignment next time I update the list
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Post by: alcapalis on September 28, 2002, 10:11:24 pm
Hiya,

about the alignments.. maybe you could add them at some guilds.. but the EPE hasnt got a alignment..
some of us are good, some of us are evil and some of us are neutral.. so we can\'t say what alignment our guild has..
oh and tnx kada for leaving us on the list..
we arent very cative on the board right now, but we\'re still here..
as soon as there is a good playable version you\'ll see us a lot..

greetinx..

Alcapalis
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Post by: FyreBlade on October 01, 2002, 05:01:01 am
um kada, the forums are back up, but they have........a few errors to say the least. for example, i can\'t login, view forums, view profile, login, view forums (yes, i know i already mentioned these two   ;)  ), or do anything else useful  :D . any idea what\'s up?  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Kada-El on October 01, 2002, 02:05:29 pm
Yeah, I thought the forums were on the road to recovery, but it\'s been a couple of days and we still can\'t post or access the boards properly.

I think I many have to get out my big net and pointy stick and go Binary hunting tonight, and see if I find out what\'s wrong.

Alcapalis - I saw you were still around the place every so often, so I figured I\'d leave your guild up there as technically you are still active really ;)
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Post by: Funhouse on October 01, 2002, 04:57:26 pm
it looks like binary f*$^ed up the MySQL database...probably moved a file and forgot to put it back or something
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Post by: Kiern on October 01, 2002, 11:05:04 pm
Thats what happend with my the BISM\'s old site, all those errors and nothing works.....i HATE it!

**Kicks Errors**
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Post by: Princess Aelya on October 02, 2002, 12:46:30 am
yea... *kicks errors to* ........oh almost forgot *kicks binary* :P
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Post by: elKano on October 02, 2002, 01:13:11 am
Yeah Kada... I was wondering... on your next update, could you change Los Otros leader name from mine to something like \'/\' or \'-\'?
Because it doesn\'t sound very serious, an anarchist community with a leader... It\'s not very problematic now since I am the only member, but perhaps one day I\'ll get a second one, and then it will be unfair to have just my name.

Thank you:D
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Post by: Chubbs on October 02, 2002, 03:23:27 am
u just think your so cute \"kicking\" binary... well your not. Your annoying. stop. it was funny maybe the first time. But in every post i see someone kicking Binary, and it\'s not funny anymore. it\'s just violent. Text Violence. and it\'s bad. So stop.
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Post by: Princess Aelya on October 02, 2002, 03:58:39 am
oh oops i didnt mean to sound to terribly serious :P
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Post by: Kada-El on October 02, 2002, 01:43:39 pm
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Originally posted by elKano
Yeah Kada... I was wondering... on your next update, could you change Los Otros leader name from mine to something like \'/\' or \'-\'?
Because it doesn\'t sound very serious, an anarchist community with a leader

No problem, I\'ll do that for you ;)

But, surely even in an anarchic guild you need some sort of leader or everyone would just function as individuals and there would be no point. Wait a minute I\'m confused - isn\'t the very definition of anarchy one of general lawlessnes and disorder - how does a guild (by it\'s very nature is an organisation of a group of people who work together), fit with the principles of an anarchic society?

*kicks self for talking rubbish*

*kicks Chubbs for sake of text violence*
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Post by: elKano on October 06, 2002, 03:57:28 pm
Well, that\'s why I have so many troubles with it. I know it\'s fundamentally paradoxal, an archist guild. I prefer \'community\' for the apelation, but it is not me who choose.
Anyway, the idea is a team work with no hierarchies at all. You do what you think you have to, but you are judged every time by the complete guild... so you have better to act right. Mmm... hard to explain...
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Post by: Kendrick on October 20, 2002, 03:27:41 am
Call yourselfs revolutionists! and then don\'t call yourself a guild. just a bunch of people bringing goverment into a game. and i hate work and school

I have learned something at work today. Girls like it when you turn your head at them when they walk by. uhh, that is to say blah blah science of the sex. and and and.

during the winter months protect your lips by using chap stik in the morning and before you go to bed, and use lotion on your fingers and toes. and let me just say one more last thing.

lift your legs to acheive a firm buttocks, tighten your stomach when you walk and sit and breath, i mean by that- always. and work out your P.C. muslce, because in the end, that is all that girls care about.

and to end the circle i shall tell you this: if i learned this important stuff at work, why do i go to school?
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Post by: Vengeance on October 20, 2002, 03:42:26 pm
Kada,

I just tried to go to your forum for the first time in a while, because I\'m on a new machine now and didn\'t have the bookmark anymore.  Now it won\'t let me login or click any of the links...it just shows me the same list of forums no matter what I click on.

How do I login again?

-Vengeance
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Post by: Funhouse on October 20, 2002, 03:46:44 pm
I don\'t think its you Veng, I\'m logged in and I still can\'t do anything...

also, when did this place get back up lol.  Since it stopped working I havent checked in a while.
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Post by: Kada-El on October 21, 2002, 01:39:48 pm
Veng,

Unfortunately the forum is pretty messed up at the moment and it has been for a while :(, no one can log in at the moment.

I spoke to Binary (who hosts it for me) yesterday, and he\'s trying to put things right, but the php stuff is being a pain apparently - way outside of my tiny cirlce of knowledge anyway.

I hope he gets it working soon, I miss my forum :(


BTW thanks for sharing what you have learnt recently Kendrick, as always it was a harrowing journey through the random out-pourings of your mind - I think I\'ll have a lie down now, does it matter that I\'m at work?
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Post by: Kada-El on November 19, 2002, 10:03:06 pm
Just thought I\'d post a little update of recent tavern developments:

- First big one is the forum being back up - I expect you all to come by for a drink and say hi at least once, remember first drink is on the house ;)
- I\'ve added alignments where I could to the guild list. If anyone has any info on what I\'m missing, please let me know.
- I\'ve added a screenshots page for the various releases of PS, to the \'Extras\' section.
- More fan art was added last month.

As usual all feedback and contributions are gratefully received. Taven link below my sig ;)
 
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Post by: Cyonamie on November 19, 2002, 11:29:36 pm
why did i pay for my first drink?
:P
new rule huh? i see how it is...
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Post by: Pheonix on November 20, 2002, 12:19:36 am
Well Cyo you have to make up for all the customers you scare away.
So making you pay is only fair.
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Post by: Vengeance on November 20, 2002, 06:47:00 am
Kudos to Kada on some really terrific Atomic Blue screenshots...  interesting that our most attractive innkeeper would run around as a hairy-chested dwarf though...   *hmmm*

- Venge
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Post by: Kada-El on November 20, 2002, 05:49:21 pm
Thank you Veng :D

Well, if I\'d been given the option to play as female of any of the races, my chest might have been less hairy :P ;)  (hmm, unless it was an Enkidukai I guess :rolleyes: )
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Post by: boonet on November 20, 2002, 06:01:39 pm
hmm... the hairy enkidukai female ain\'t that bad, you know ;)? In any case, there will be definitely some female character in MB..... I won\'t say more ;)
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Post by: Kada-El on November 20, 2002, 06:10:03 pm
Great news, thanks Boonet :)

I wonder what race/races we\'ll get *crossed fingers for Dermorian* I think Diaboli will get a few more crossed fingers though, eh Aelya?
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Post by: Princess Aelya on November 20, 2002, 09:29:14 pm
indeed kada. :D and im not the only diaboli arund here :)
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Post by: Pheonix on November 21, 2002, 12:52:51 am
Yeah the Enkis arent bad looking at all,
especially seeing as they are covered in fur
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Post by: White Dust on December 04, 2002, 02:55:46 pm
The horror... THE HORROR...

It isn\'t working :(
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Post by: FyreBlade on December 08, 2002, 03:11:58 am
kada or binary, could we please have an update or an estimate on the timeframe of when the forum will come back up?
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Post by: Kada-El on December 12, 2002, 10:53:00 am
Wish I could update you on how long the forum will be down for I miss it :( .Unfortunately I\'m completely at the mercy of Binary and his server. I have not managed to track him down yet to get an update, hopefully he\'ll soon respond to my plea...
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Post by: Pheonix on December 12, 2002, 06:19:49 pm
Ok The BBB is there just not where you would expect it this comes because Binary is having dns problems
So here is the address for the bbb
http://zoid.ath.cx/kadael/index.php (http://zoid.ath.cx/kadael/index.php)
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Post by: Kada-El on December 17, 2002, 09:55:27 pm
Sorry to everyone for the recent forum problems we\'ve had.

Once more we are up and running on http://www.nomox.net/kadael/index.php with a few safety nets in place to stop the recent problems from ever darkening my doors again (I hope).

Once again I can only apologise for the recent downtime and loss of data - I hope you\'ll all still join me from time to time ;)
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Post by: White Dust on December 25, 2002, 09:27:05 pm
O, dear God, not again...


Critical Error

Could not connect to the database[/list]
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Post by: LirainIzar on December 26, 2002, 12:45:38 am
Oh dear, and just when I was finally able to log in :(  I thought it was just my computer, but I guess I\'m not the only one to get the critical error message.